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Hey guys :]
So a lot of you probably don't know who I am because I am a Droid and Droid 2 rom developer for the rom Epic or Epic Unleashed. I wanna bring my rom Epic Unleashed to the Fascinate but I dont have the funds to afford one. I am asking if you, the Fascinate community can you please donate so I will be able to but a Fascinate and develop custom roms for all of you. I would refund all the money not used to the people who donated it. If you would like to donate please click here and donate as much as you would like. Mods and/or admins please do not take this thread down because I want to get a Fascinate to make all your phones better :]
Thanks!
Matt4542
Here are some links to my work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784917
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/epic/76232-epic-3-5-august-30th-download-cookie.html (download links need to be updated)
Matt4542 said:
Hey guys :]
So a lot of you probably don't know who I am because I am a Droid and Droid 2 rom developer for the rom Epic or Epic Unleashed. I wanna bring my rom Epic Unleashed to the Fascinate but I dont have the funds to afford one. I am asking if you, the Fascinate community can you please donate so I will be able to but a Fascinate and develop custom roms for all of you. I would refund all the money not used to the people who donated it. If you would like to donate please click here and donate as much as you would like. Mods and/or admins please do not take this thread down because I want to get a Fascinate to make all your phones better :]
Thanks!
Matt4542
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Just a little knowledge to the users that are out there. Right now we don't have a real ability of installing custom roms anyways, just hold on until we get a working kernel source so that we have a custom recovery. Then do what you want with your money.
I agree. Far be it from me to tell people how to use their money, but at this point we can't even get the compiled kernel from Samsung's source to boot.
If anyone out there is confident in their ability to release a product, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest purchasing the device up front (credit card?), and asking for donations after releasing the product. Just my opinion.
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I agree. Far be it from me to tell people how to use their money, but at this point we can't even get the compiled kernel from Samsung's source to boot.
If anyone out there is confident in their ability to release a product, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest purchasing the device up front (credit card?), and asking for donations after releasing the product. Just my opinion.
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Gotta agree 100%.
I'm also a little gun shy after I donated to help buy a Droid for the guy on another forum who then got distracted by other projects.
On the other hand, I'm sure Koush and Cyanogenmod get donations they haven't even asked for.
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Gotta agree 100%.
I'm also a little gun shy after I donated to help buy a Droid for the guy on another forum who then got distracted by other projects.
On the other hand, I'm sure Koush and Cyanogenmod get donations they haven't even asked for.
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Lol, yeah, don't want to get Jaked.
LOL get Jaked. That's funny as hell. I remember when I first got my DINC that tool had a ton of people following him and was basically full of **** and made a million claims he didn't back up. I wad one of the ones who donated and supported his BS so getting jaked is real.;-)
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Actually I am a developer on the D2 and D1, I dont promise things that I would not be able to do. If you can or want to please dontate, a recovery will be out soon and I know there isn't one but just wait.
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I agree. Far be it from me to tell people how to use their money, but at this point we can't even get the compiled kernel from Samsung's source to boot.
If anyone out there is confident in their ability to release a product, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest purchasing the device up front (credit card?), and asking for donations after releasing the product. Just my opinion.
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I would buy it up front but I dont have the money to spend right now, that is why I need the donations to be able to afford the device.
Matt is a cool guy, I used to test his roms on my Droid! Once a recovery is made I will most likely make a donation to ya Matt
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Matt is a cool guy, I used to test his roms on my Droid! Once a recovery is made I will most likely make a donation to ya Matt
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Haha when did you get a Fascinate? Gtalk haah
do you mind if you post some links to your d1 and d2 roms? just so we can see ur work?
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do you mind if you post some links to your d1 and d2 roms? just so we can see ur work?
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Just posted the links on the original post :]
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I would buy it up front but I dont have the money to spend right now, that is why I need the donations to be able to afford the device.
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Actually I am a developer on the D2 and D1, I dont promise things that I would not be able to do. If you can or want to please dontate, a recovery will be out soon and I know there isn't one but just wait.
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Asking someone to buy you a phone so you can develop on it is pretty shady at best, even when you dont seem that willing to help with the actual code. The work you have done seems good, but from what i can tell, you're more of a chef than a dev. I am more a chef as well, i dont know code very well, but am learning. At the moment, our efforts on getting a recovery are turning up at nothing, so asking for people to make a donation to get you a phone that you wont be able to push roms out for yet is just not the way to go. Advertise again when we have a working recovery, if we do get to that point.
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Asking someone to buy you a phone so you can develop on it is pretty shady at best, even when you dont seem that willing to help with the actual code. The work you have done seems good, but from what i can tell, you're more of a chef than a dev. I am more a chef as well, i dont know code very well, but am learning. At the moment, our efforts on getting a recovery are turning up at nothing, so asking for people to make a donation to get you a phone that you wont be able to push roms out for yet is just not the way to go. Advertise again when we have a working recovery, if we do get to that point.
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Actually I am not a chef. I build from AOSP and other things. I know a lot of Java and some C++. I was not able to build from AOSP on the D2 because of several things Motorola has left out. I tried over and over. I am asking to donate so I will be able to get AOSP roms and source build things on this device. If you do not wish to donate do not. I am just asking so I can make roms better for the device when the recovery is booted and released. That is all.
Umm... get donations from the d1 and d2 work that you've already done, buy a Fascinate, create ROMs for that, and THEN (if it's a halfway decent job) people will donate without you even needing to ask them. Why ask people to pay for something that you haven't even done yet but then reassure them it'll happen because of your other work? If what you did with the d1/2 is good then shouldn't you be able to get donations from that? I'm not accusing you of trying to scam people I'm just telling you what seems to make the most sense.
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Umm... get donations from the d1 and d2 work that you've already done, buy a Fascinate, create ROMs for that, and THEN (if it's a halfway decent job) people will donate without you even needing to ask them. Why ask people to pay for something that you haven't even done yet but then reassure them it'll happen because of your other work? If what you did with the d1/2 is good then shouldn't you be able to get donations from that? I'm not accusing you of trying to scam people I'm just telling you what seems to make the most sense.
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Actually I am not getting many donations towards my D1/D2 development :/ I just need some money so I could develop of this device when there is a recovery but people needed to make a big deal out of it :/
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Actually I am not getting many donations towards my D1/D2 development :/ I just need some money so I could develop of this device when there is a recovery but people needed to make a big deal out of it :/
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Well, once again, I'm not accusing you of trying to scam. But you do have to look at this from everyone else's view and realize people are not going to be too quick to jump on this. If there's not much coming in from work you have actually already done then it really doesn't seem like there's going to be much turnout for something that, at this point, is just based on your word.
So what's the exact problem with the recovery? Some threads say that you guys are able to get into the recovery anyway?
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So what's the exact problem with the recovery? Some threads say that you guys are able to get into the recovery anyway?
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the problem right now with the recovery is that we cannot even get a custom kernel to boot, which is the starting point for a working recovery.
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the problem right now with the recovery is that we cannot even get a custom kernel to boot, which is the starting point for a working recovery.
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I probably will be able to help with the kernel. Is there a place I will be able to contact you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288714
there are some big names here that never released a Rom for the Amaze
what happened ???
I am wondering the same thing. They are really good devs.
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Let's PM them and ask..?
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Let's PM them and ask..?
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good idea
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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while i agree with you on this. i think with any phone now there will be people *****ing if you dont have fast development. its just how XDA/the internet is getting lol. i remember back in the mytouch/g1 days when people were cool and got along
glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
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Lol ...and you think its just the forums here.... its the whole freaking society heading to exactly what you said.
Spoiled fuking punks.
Technology moving forward, society moving sideways, maybe a little backwards.... gl dude, I feel ya with what you are saying, you leaving is a loss, considering you actually contributed here, and didn't just post comments.
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Damn, im patient and busted my ass off at a craphole of a job to get this phone, but hey. Im happy with what i got and can wait for features that others are dying for. If we want things, then maybe we should learn ourselves. guess i got the wrong phone huh. Well guys, Were not all spoiled.
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glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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Agree with this whole heartedly.
I have spent the last year or so on this forum, researching my old phone G2 and my current phone Amaze. Just 1 month ago i finally built the courage to root & S-OFF my G2, loaded up recovery and a rom. I went detail by detail on this forum, every question i thought of i hit the search bar and walla, someone else had the same issue and it was resolved instantly. So 2 weeks ago i decided to root my Amaze and S-Off using the juopunutbear tool. I read for 2 straight days and in my modding infancy i made some mistakes, But as i returned to reading, i was able to make whatever wrong i had right. No needs to making new threads or pm'ing anyone. It's a shame people are to lazy to do the simple things that are required on this forum.
Just wanna say a huge thanks to all the helpfull users on these boards, be it devs or just random testers or noobs willing to make mistakes like myself in order to enjoy their phone to the fullest extent.
glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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so you call all of us fake devs? just because alot of us dont know how to build from source very well doesnt mean were not real devs! its called theming, a different kind of dev. and along with theming, you make mods to roms.
you sir got your definition of a kang wrong. and people that ask eta's are just eager for the devs awesomeness to show. (it should make the devs happy that there work is at least wanted... if you dont like eta's, ignore the user)
as for pm's, just ignore it or answer it. the choice is yours lol. the community gives to you, you give back to the community. even if it means answering back to a pm. i've gotten pm's from users with questions about rooting the amaze. instead of pushing them away, i helped them.
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I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
Say what u want about Xboarder, but he hit the nail on the head when he left. It's bull**** here. Moderators backed off/out, devs don't want to do anything here. I said it before ics and s=off.. the community is slowing development, and is the reason for the lack of devs.
I don't want to really post here any more. A few of the original Amaze members stuck around, but even they are fed up. My inbox gets 5-10 PMs per day. Usually from a noob I never heard of asking me to hold his hand.
I hate to say it like this, but WAAAAY too many spoiled little kids own this phone... Hence the childish community.
Good luck getting insertcoin, or ANY working CM9/AOSP ROMs. This community is full of Kangers and themers who can copy/paste/edit files and because they spend a lot of time doing it, they think they're devs.
I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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I will see to it that we get working AOSP me and the tiamat dev are discussing gsm and ill fix it I promise. Sooner or later we will have it but I agree with everything else though
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death4u said:
I have spent the last year or so on this forum, researching my old phone G2 and my current phone Amaze. Just 1 month ago i finally built the courage to root & S-OFF my G2, loaded up recovery and a rom. I went detail by detail on this forum, every question i thought of i hit the search bar and walla, someone else had the same issue and it was resolved instantly. So 2 weeks ago i decided to root my Amaze and S-Off using the juopunutbear tool. I read for 2 straight days and in my modding infancy i made some mistakes, But as i returned to reading, i was able to make whatever wrong i had right. No needs to making new threads or pm'ing anyone. It's a shame people are to lazy to do the simple things that are required on this forum.
Just wanna say a huge thanks to all the helpfull users on these boards, be it devs or just random testers or noobs willing to make mistakes like myself in order to enjoy their phone to the fullest extent.
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15 months, 1 post, and this guy has it figured out. he should be a role model for all! unfortunately, the people that need to see this post are too busy creating new threads and asking silly questions
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15 months, 1 post, and this guy has it figured out. he should be a role model for all! unfortunately, the people that need to see this post are too busy creating new threads and asking silly questions
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We should all link that post to them lol
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I agree most with hasoon.... That said....
. The organisation here is atrocious...
The 5 step perfect how to walk through for any major topic is on Page 67 and never linked back to the op and takes 18 continuous hours of reading through misinformation to find... At which time you're exhausted and at roughly the highest level of doubt possible..
Roms ate not dated in the op or heading
Virtually nothing is stickied AND closed immediately
Chagelogs look like government cost justification spreadsheets...
Go look at the hd2 or even back to the HTC elf (touch)..
Ive been at this since the ipaq... This is by far the most impossible to discern community sub segment yet... I WILL agree their are a lot of princess's here... But I will ADMIT even I wont do crap yet till I DONT have to sort through 1200 posts to find what should be stickied at the top of the Page.
I post this as a a moderate between desperate nubes who don't deserve flaming AND desperate dev's sick of nubes not spending 18 hours doing what should be 5 minutes of searching.
The search function in the amaze area is almost pointless... We need 20 sticks at the top of the development forum with 3 posts then LOCK IT!!
I just re-read this and it sounds way harsher than what I wanted.. So.. Hugs and kisses to all!!..
Hope that helps!??
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so you call all of us fake devs? just because alot of us dont know how to build from source very well doesnt mean were not real devs!
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Yes it does. Sorry, but theming doesn't make you a true dev. Its the difference between being a medical assistant and a doctor. Sure some medical assistants, have great knowledge... but doesn't make them a doctor.
You can be a great themer, hell even the best... but it doesn't make you a dev.
If you don't understand what you are doing and you are just doing it, you're not really a developer
And this is not a bad thing. Lot of great themers, and props to them for being as such.
This of course is just imho, not trying to flame you or anyone else.
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ok lets stop with this back and forth crap and get back on topic, hmm?
ive stopped posting in this forum too, cuz i was sick of all the pm's, being a lurker is much easier, so its hard to blame any of those devs for never making a rom for us. all we can do is ask nicely and hope for the best.
glacierguy, you probably wont be reading this, but if you are, i want to thank you for putting up with all the crap you had to put up with, and for your sake i hope one day we can come up with a browser extension that magnifies the search button x9000.
eclipze, thank you too, for creating speedrom and allowing me to use it as a base for my own, which i never released, because you beat me to the aosp punch although i may have possibly found a way to get aosp contacts/phone working!!! ill pm you with details tomorrow
now then, how will we go about asking all those great devs to come back? a petition? (not a come back now one, but a please come back one) i dont think multiple pm's will work, only piss em off.
ideas?
or maybe we could start a thread and pm them and have them post in it?
or maybe i just posted this to bump the thread? im not too sure yet...
I guess we lost our best dev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25869655
he is working on miui aokp and more lol XD
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glacierguy said:
I wouldn't want to develop for this impatient community. Noobs posting like cockroaches, nobody wants to research, ETA requests from degenerates, everyone's an expert but no one knows anything.
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I mean really, most devs here are not devs, they are senior members. Not even recognized as Recognized Contributors, just senior members. Lol.
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Well, I agree with you about nobody wanting to do the legwork of research, and also I see a lot of jerk-faces..
and in no way am I trying to argue, you've been a cool guy, one of the few members still here that I respect..
..but in defense of those "not devs", it is really hard to tell the difference. Where/how does a dev start? I didn't really like the community of my last phone, the vibrant, and it had plenty of development so there was never much point for me to trying to learn with that-- but the amaze needs devs, and with the release of ICS on a phone I find to be awesome, I finally want to learn.
Thus far all I have released is just a remix of other people's work, and one jar file barely modified to get beats to work-- but I am trying to find challenges and a good starting point for going from a "not-dev" to something more. I mean, the people who ARE developers had to start somewhere right? The hard part is figuring out where/how.
Right now I am trying to learn how to either: make a proper port(which requires some pretty heavy knowledge to properly integrate kernels, bootclasspaths, etc), or contribute to aosp(actually build it, fix it, make changes to git, etc), port something like leedroid tweaks(requires lots of compiling/decompiling, modification of everything, etc).. I'm just trying to figure out which would help give me the best experience to help me move on to even BIGGER things.
I guess I'm just saying that because not everyone is just trying to kang other people's work, but has to use that as part of the process for getting to something more their own! I had no doubt I could put together some awesome flashables that would be 100% problem free(based on other work, with proper credit given), that is the only reason I've offered it, but I am trying to take that next step!
As far as leaving these forums and xboarder.. I get frustrated by these forums too, but I can't say I can respect many of xboarder's actions. I know he is young, and probably 99% of the issues I see are related to that- but if I learn something that I think others could use I would share it. If I could work openly with other people I would. If the community would be better served by me doing something WITH others I would do it in a heartbeat. But he liked to get offended by people who didn't matter, he wouldn't set aside his differences to work with other people doing the same thing because he would rather prove he can do it without them-- the way he was trying to do things is just as counter productive(IMHO) to the "open source" community as all of these noobs clogging up the pipes that are chasing away members who WANT to contribute!
I'm curious about two devs who had enough money donated to them that they could buy an amaze(and maybe even more), who released ONE rom, and haven't been seen/heard from again.. I didn't have much to contribute(broke ass college student), but I was looking forward to seeing them do more work.
And to someone who posted before me talking about the lack of organization- I agree fully- I think this is a BIG reason why so many noobs are clogging up threads and inboxes-- but isn't that usually solved by good contributors and a good mod?
I have a question that I do not see answered anywhere in the EVO 3D cdma forums anywhere so I'll ask...
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD.....
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EXACT SAME F'ING ROM????????
It's in the right forum, I checked. There is NO need for 5 of the same damn rom's with the tiniest tweaks done to someone elses ROM that does not constitute a "new" ROM.
Those of you who have been thinking the same thing I have been can Thank me for speaking your mind for you.
Have a nice day.
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I have a question that I do not see answered anywhere in the EVO 3D cdma forums anywhere so I'll ask...
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD.....
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EXACT SAME F'ING ROM????????
It's in the right forum, I checked. There is NO need for 5 of the same damn rom's with the tiniest tweaks done to someone elses ROM that does not constitute a "new" ROM.
Those of you who have been thinking the same thing I have been can Thank me for speaking your mind for you.
Have a nice day.
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....... I will give you an answer that you may seek... NO I don't think they will.. They are not the same ROMs FRIEND... Each one has certain things that make them different otherwise the MODs on this site would not allow them to be posted. ATM the new base 2.89 has been released and they are just now sinking their teeth into it. If you want something completely different- DO IT YOURSELF SIR. These guys are doing all of US a favor and taking their precious time outside of work in order to satisfy people like you and I by making software that has not been dictated and made it readily available for the public. I don't do it because I don't have time to create one I want all to myself. They create it in the sense that THEY WANT- they simply allow us to give input on their creations and tweak it according to their APPRECIATIVE fellow members. They don't HAVE to do it but they DO. Be grateful you're not stuck with STOCK. otherwise do it yourself and stop complaining. Not trying to troll, I'm just fed up with inconsiderate degenerates not appreciating what these guys and gals do for all of us. just my $00.02, you don't have to like it.
The reason the ROMs are similar is because when one ROM incorporates a cool feature, the dev will usually share it with other devs who want it.
Now, what would be cool is one ROM that all the devs worked on together. It would be epic. Or a big jumbled mess. Never mind.
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....... I will give you an answer that you may seek... NO I don't think they will.. They are not the same ROMs FRIEND... Each one has certain things that make them different otherwise the MODs on this site would not allow them to be posted. ATM the new base 2.89 has been released and they are just now sinking their teeth into it. If you want something completely different- DO IT YOURSELF SIR. These guys are doing all of US a favor and taking their precious time outside of work in order to satisfy people like you and I by making software that has not been dictated and made it readily available for the public. I don't do it because I don't have time to create one I want all to myself. They create it in the sense that THEY WANT- they simply allow us to give input on their creations and tweak it according to their APPRECIATIVE fellow members. They don't HAVE to do it but they DO. Be grateful you're not stuck with STOCK. otherwise do it yourself and stop complaining. Not trying to troll, I'm just fed up with inconsiderate degenerates not appreciating what these guys and gals do for all of us. just my $00.02, you don't have to like it.
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Taking someone elses ROM and and changing something is NOT making a new rom when it's just full of Tweaks. As for your smartass remark about degenerates not appreciating what "these guys do" just shows how much of a ****ing prick you are. First off just because someone posts a "new rom" doesn't make it some "new ROM" I just like you could make rom's and used to on Rootz Wiki and here long ago, so shut your ****ing rude mouth. I don't need you making a suggestion I am some kid who's making an inconsiderate remark, it's douches like you who think that the same ole **** over and over and over and over being introduced as a "new rom" is something new when it fact it does nothing but clutter all the forums. Get a clue and next time show some class you punk kid.
When someone uses a ROM as the base to making their ROM that's one thing, but when these stupid kids on here, which XDA seems to be full of nothing but now, just takes someone elses rom and adds colors, and stupid crap like that, that does NOT make it a "new rom". Perhaps you should learn a thing or two about making custom ROM's.
All roms are verified to be unique , no kanging is allowed, all i can say is make your own rom and see how long, time consuming and involved it is, until then do not insult developers or their work
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quickfixguru said:
I have a question that I do not see answered anywhere in the EVO 3D cdma forums anywhere so I'll ask...
FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD.....
WILL EVERYONE PLEASE STOP MAKING THE EXACT SAME F'ING ROM????????
It's in the right forum, I checked. There is NO need for 5 of the same damn rom's with the tiniest tweaks done to someone elses ROM that does not constitute a "new" ROM.
Those of you who have been thinking the same thing I have been can Thank me for speaking your mind for you.
Have a nice day.
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Lol umadbro??
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quickfixguru said:
Taking someone elses ROM and and changing something is NOT making a new rom when it's just full of Tweaks. As for your smartass remark about degenerates not appreciating what "these guys do" just shows how much of a ****ing prick you are. First off just because someone posts a "new rom" doesn't make it some "new ROM" I just like you could make rom's and used to on Rootz Wiki and here long ago, so shut your ****ing rude mouth. I don't need you making a suggestion I am some kid who's making an inconsiderate remark, it's douches like you who think that the same ole **** over and over and over and over being introduced as a "new rom" is something new when it fact it does nothing but clutter all the forums. Get a clue and next time show some class you punk kid.
When someone uses a ROM as the base to making their ROM that's one thing, but when these stupid kids on here, which XDA seems to be full of nothing but now, just takes someone elses rom and adds colors, and stupid crap like that, that does NOT make it a "new rom". Perhaps you should learn a thing or two about making custom ROM's.
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Next time you want to create a thread like this I recommend you think to yourself...what can I actually do to contribute instead of complain. This is a site for developers not complainers. Sorry you are unhappy. Get over it and enjoy your free rom that someone worked on for hours. you are lucky that I dont infract everyone in this thread and delete the thread but instead im gonna leave it all here for others to look at and view the ignorance and why zero tolerance exists.
It seems like a Rom comes out one week just to be superseded by another Rom the next week! Is it me or is this mainly done by the compilers to get donations
Seems to be ramping up since the GN2 had released. We need quality, not quantity...
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Sir, since you posted, I will address this and I hope it is understood.
First development is just that...and that is what is going here, by the Developers/Themer and ROM makers around here, they are developing and working on their ROMs tweaking/mod'ing/ making them as stable as possible...btw you should understand that work done here, is their work (ROMs), to which they are kind enough to provide/share with all on this Developers Site...called XDA. All free there is no charge, yes donations are done but they are just that donations.
And the reason you see so many updates, that is called>>development; to say you are tired of seeing ROMs, WOW sir, I would be saying Thank You to the RDs/RTs and RCs and ROM cookers/tweakers for taking the time and seeing what users are providing to help in their work. To which we all benefit from...
If you find a ROM that works for you fine, use it do what you want, since it was freely given/provide again just say Thank You.
This reply was not meant to put you on blast...so to speak, but I hope I brought a better understanding for you.
Sir, please do not open these type threads, Thank You and as stated above in red...
Dear Yasir, Atis112, Prototype-U, ckpv5, MaartenXDA, xpirt, The Android Manual and fellow devs,
I have downloaded all your ROMs and installed them faithfully on my phone. However I must express my utter disappointment that these ROMs aren't running Key Lime Pie. Why are you so lazy?
Also, my phone does not turn into an umbrella when it's raining. WTF is this? How can you ignore such basic stuff? It doesn't walk my dog, or chop my vegetables. I wanted to use my phone as a lightsaber to impress all my friends, but can I do this with your ROMS? No!
You use excuses like: "We don't have kernel sources from HTC", and manage to give us a measly 4.2.2 ROM / Sense 5 themed ROM / Sense 4+ Full / CM 10.1 instead!? Really it's just that you are not listening to us, your non-paying customers. Why should we donate to you or support your work when we can't even play the latest PS4 / Xbox One games on our Desire X. Is that too much to ask?
So, please get with the program, and make us some awesome ROMs with no new sources and nothing but endless hours of hacking and slashing at code to work with. We promise to do nothing but moan at you and suggest how you should spend your volunteer time and efforts.
Sincerely,
A random noob
Made my day
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Woah! What did I just read
vogonpoetlaureate said:
Dear Yasir, Atis112, Prototype-U, ckpv5, and fellow devs,
I have downloaded all your ROMs and installed them faithfully on my phone. However I must express my utter disappointment that these ROMs aren't running Key Lime Pie. Why are you so lazy?
Also, my phone does not turn into an umbrella when it's raining. WTF is this? How can you ignore such basic stuff? It doesn't walk my dog, or chop my vegetables. I wanted to use my phone as a lightsaber to impress all my friends, but can I do this with your ROMS? No!
You use excuses like: "We don't have kernel sources from HTC", and manage to give us a measly 4.2.2 ROM / Sense 5 ROM / Sense 4+ Full / CM 10.1 instead!? Really it's just that you are not listening to us, your non-paying customers. Why should we donate to you or support your work when we can't even play the latest PS4 / Xbox One games on our Desire X. Is that too much to ask?
So, please get with the program, and make us some awesome ROMs with no new sources and nothing but endless hours of hacking and slashing at code to work with. We promise to do nothing but moan at you and suggest how you should spend your volunteer time and efforts.
Sincerely,
A random noob
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Sense 5 ROM...? Where!?
Haha. Nice one OP. A very unique way of thanking.
Your welcome. I hope we will get more devs with time and then you might get more distractions, like fully working cmx and bug free sense 5.
And I would include even more people like maartenxda, xpirt, TAM, who are making each day better than last.
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OP - very well said mate, most of us are acting this way and want everything not for today, not for tomorrow but for yesterday.
Most members are asking for ETAs everyday, when its been said many times not to do so, many members are moaning about non working stuff, without donating, without thinking that this is what Development means - stuff being fixed needs time, time which our not many, but working devs need to spend for us, not for their private life.
So i agree with you and i wish all of us to be more friendly and more patient with the development and developers we have here.
Thanks for this one. You should become a news writer on XDA Portal creating an article about the missing kernel sources for JB...
vogonpoetlaureate said:
Dear Yasir, Atis112, Prototype-U, ckpv5, MaartenXDA, xpirt, The Android Manual and fellow devs,
I have downloaded all your ROMs and installed them faithfully on my phone. However I must express my utter disappointment that these ROMs aren't running Key Lime Pie. Why are you so lazy?
Also, my phone does not turn into an umbrella when it's raining. WTF is this? How can you ignore such basic stuff? It doesn't walk my dog, or chop my vegetables. I wanted to use my phone as a lightsaber to impress all my friends, but can I do this with your ROMS? No!
You use excuses like: "We don't have kernel sources from HTC", and manage to give us a measly 4.2.2 ROM / Sense 5 themed ROM / Sense 4+ Full / CM 10.1 instead!? Really it's just that you are not listening to us, your non-paying customers. Why should we donate to you or support your work when we can't even play the latest PS4 / Xbox One games on our Desire X. Is that too much to ask?
So, please get with the program, and make us some awesome ROMs with no new sources and nothing but endless hours of hacking and slashing at code to work with. We promise to do nothing but moan at you and suggest how you should spend your volunteer time and efforts.
Sincerely,
A random noob
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i also demand a flux capacitor, so we can travel into the future and get our jb kernel sources from htc
hcdav said:
Sense 5 ROM...? Where!?
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Sense 5 "themed" rom
Like ckpv5's roms
0zura
0zura said:
Sense 5 "themed" rom
Like ckpv5's roms
0zura
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Or
The original sense 5 port by xpirt (not released yet)
Lolololololololololololol just read this post. This is the best way to thank people
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There's a serious point to this post, which is that there are people who are making attacks against devs, criticising people's efforts while having made no contributions themselves, and generally going against the spirit of XDA (that is to foster a community of people committed to learning and developing together in an atmosphere of mutual respect and courtesy). So stop with the moaning and the whinging. the ad hominem attacks, and the armchair developer schtick. Give developers the respect they deserve. They volunteer their time and energy on the things they choose to. They don't owe us anything.
vogonpoetlaureate said:
There's a serious point to this post, which is that there are people who are making attacks against devs, criticising people's efforts while having made no contributions themselves, and generally going against the spirit of XDA (that is to foster a community of people committed to learning and developing together in an atmosphere of mutual respect and courtesy). So stop with the moaning and the whinging. the ad hominem attacks, and the armchair developer schtick. Give developers the respect they deserve. They volunteer their time and energy on the things they choose to. They don't owe us anything.
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I agree with you. All people who don't like dev's work can learn and make by themeselves.
I respect all dev's work like @neXus PRIME one because he made all recoveries for us and we have to be grateful to him.
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vogonpoetlaureate said:
There's a serious point to this post, which is that there are people who are making attacks against devs, criticising people's efforts while having made no contributions themselves, and generally going against the spirit of XDA (that is to foster a community of people committed to learning and developing together in an atmosphere of mutual respect and courtesy). So stop with the moaning and the whinging. the ad hominem attacks, and the armchair developer schtick. Give developers the respect they deserve. They volunteer their time and energy on the things they choose to. They don't owe us anything.
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Why the hell aren't you a news writer? Seriously, I have seen some of your posts - like the ROM reviews - and they're post by post AWESOME. It'd be great if the rest of the forum could join the happiness of reading your posts!
MaartenXDA said:
Why the hell aren't you a news writer? Seriously, I have seen some of your posts - like the ROM reviews - and they're post by post AWESOME. It'd be great if the rest of the forum could join the happiness of reading your posts!
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Ikr, his use of language is perfect for articles and reviews, you should ask for a position at xda portal if that's possible
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some of the names mentioned above arent even devs :S
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exactly why this thread was made, they may not be "devs" but they are still dedicating plenty of personal time to you and all others here, they made things noone else would do and let everyone to benefit from it, further development included, they are pushing desire x in others eyes up, they should be thanked, not labeled as "not dev, pfff"...
Exactly, lack of respect, they may not be a developer but sure they release amazing modded Roms.
Deal with it fella.
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