This is my first HTC rooted device. I had ****ty Moto's before. Anyways, there hasn't been much talk of anyone using Rom Manager. I am assuming that since we don't have an official CWM that we can't use Rom Manager. Once we have the official from Koush will Rom manager be compatible with the Rezound? Or does everything have to be flashed in fastboot/etc until S-Off?
*bump*...interested since this is my first HTC
You can "use" Rom Manager all you want. It's not going to do a bloody good lot of good though lol. I have it installed just to do my reboots for me and occasionally fix permissions when I blow stuff up. Any of the ROM tools probably won't work. Once Koush / Team CWM update ROM Manager update it to an official version then everything should be as it was on other phones.
Yeah, it'll require an official CWR and maybe an update to ROM Manager to support it. There's a build of CWR out there for the phone now but it's not an official build by Koush so I'm guessing that's why it's not integrating with ROM Manager.
I just hit him up on G+ about this yesterday actually. Awaiting reply.
Any news on this yet? Wouldn't this be a issue since most of us aren't using clockwork recoveries?
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I installed and subsequently removed ROM Manager from my Rezound. I had the pro version running on my Incredible, and that made sense because the recovery was ClockworkMod. There hasn't been any activity indicating that CWM will be rendered functional on the Rezound, and I run RA Vigor now which is rock solid, and doesn't interact with ROM Manager, so why waste the space? It doesn't do anything for me.
I may be wrong but I thought we couldn't use CWM on the Rezound because we didn't have S-Off? So we can't write to the recovery partition while in the OS?
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I just rooted with s-off, and was wondering about using rom manager and rom toolbox. I know to use rom manager I need to flash clockworkmod instead of amon ra. But will it work or hurt my rezound?
Using Rom toolbox gives the ability to change boot animations, will this brick my rezound? Does anyone know what items in the mentioned apps can be used safely?
thanks!
I've installed Rom manager and there is nothing worth any time in there as far as roms go especially since cwm recovery is useless on our phones. Rom toolbox should cause you no issues
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CWM recovery is not useless on our phones. There is a simple fix to make it work. I use the touch version and it works fine. I chose to stick with Rom Manager since I bought it when I had my Incredible. If I were to choose again, I would probably go with Rom Toolbox though.
Although I have the paid version of CWM and always loved it in previous phones, it is not dependable at all in the Rezound.
The ONLY 100% dependable system for the Rez is AmonRa 3.15 so it only makes sense to use it.
Have an AT&T Galaxy S2 running CM9 nightly 6/21, and have Rom Manager premium.
When I run the "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" i see 5 options, the first is "Samsung AT&T GalaxyS2" and the last is "Samsung GalaxyS2 (SGH-I777).
Well, I am on AT&T, and I have the SGH-I777 which I thought was only AT&T, so not sure which is which. Why are there two? Which is right?
But read on...
If I flash the first then Rom Manager says I have 5.0.2.6.
If I flash the last then Rom Manager says I have 5.8.1.8.
After flashing either one, when I boot into recovery (with the power button) the version running is 5.5.0.4, at least that's what it says at the top.
So I looked at the web site, and decided to try downloading from there the touch version showing as file Recovery-Clockwork-touch-5.8.1.5-GalaxyS2ATT.zip. I flashed it in CWM. When it flashes for that point in time it goes into a touch version. If I reboot, I'm back to 5.0.2.6.
No matter what I flash, I end up with 5.0.2.6. That's not bad, it works, I never have trouble installing CM9 versions either manual downloads or Rom Manager invoked installs.
But what's going on -- isn't doing the update of CWM supposed to, when I boot into recovery, show that version?
I've tried a bunch of different searches, and cannot find anything specifically about flashing CWM not working, at least not in this vein. And I can't find anywhere that distinguishes why there are two almost identical CWM's out there, but very different versions (and no, not talking about touch vs. non-touch -- talking about the way they are labeled above for this phone).
I think rom manager does it weird by flashing another recovery on top of what you already have so you then have two different ones on your phone. Another reason not to use it.
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I've never used ROM Manager to do anything on this phone but manage backups but mine reads the same way. It tells me I have that 5.8 version installed when I'm actually running 5.5.0.4 that came with my roms kernel.
Basically don't use Rom Manager. The GS2 does things differently than most phones concerning recovery and Rom Manager can't work with it.
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http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.8.1.8-i777.zip
I found this but havent tried it yet.
So what is the right way to change recovery versions? Or should one not?
This version I presume came from when I rooted, long ago? There is not on in cm9's install right?
If you're running CM9 just leave it alone. There's no need to update it. The only way to change it is to switch kernels or build your own. Recovery doesn't live in its own space on this phone like it does for every other device, its part of the kernel on the GS2.
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If you're running CM9 just leave it alone. There's no need to update it. The only way to change it is to switch kernels or build your own. Recovery doesn't live in its own space on this phone like it does for every other device, its part of the kernel on the GS2.
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Thank you.
So i was loading up a new rom after GPS wouldnt work on the previous one, got everything downloaded to internal sd and was verifying it was their via cw rom manager app. I then clicked on the link to boot into recovery and the phone came up with sgs2 and the little triangle but then nothing, pulled the battery did it manually same thing, no matter what i did it wont boot normally anymore or can i get into recovery. I am able to get into download mode so i am trying to recover my semi bricked phone. Has anyone had this happen before? For reference this is the rom i was in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854
This was the first time i ever started messing with the rom manager app and now it will be my last.
You are not the first and probably wont be the last. Rom Manager should not be used on the i9100. It will cause plenty of problems when used to install roms and such.
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You are not the first and probably wont be the last. Rom Manager should not be used on the i9100. It will cause plenty of problems when used to install roms and such.
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While I don't like or use ROM Manager, this isn't entirely true.
The issue is that CF-Root/CWM4 is NOT compatible with ROM Manager. So if you rooted with CF-Root, or have CWM4 installed, then try to use ROM Manager, that is where your issues start.
Apparently you can use ROM Manager on the i9100 as long as you don't have CWM4 or CF-Root.
But I don't recommend using ROM Manager anyways, as most flavors of CWM do everything ROM Manager can do anyways.
It happened alot with me as my previous device was HTC desire hd. I was used to rom manager.
Boot your device into download mode. Run addin n make sure you downloaded Cwm too. Hook the usb, able to your phone. Through addin flash Cwm. Next boot into recovery rock n roll
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Rom manager is horrible, i always tell people to root and flash following xda guides, Rom manager is responsible for a lot of issues on phones, id avoid it completely if you can.
I hear it and read it often too, rom manager cause plenty of issues, i wouldn't use it.
Binford... more power!
Well got it fixed last night, was 3am when i finally got to bed, and this morning i re rooted it and and im recovering my system now. Thanks for the help guys.
Is there any chance one of the devs working on this device can get CWM recovery working for it? I've used CWM exclusively on my OG Droid and Inc 2.... I'm hesitant to use a recovery I'm unfamiliar with on my Inc 4G.
The only recovery available is TWRP. I don't know of anything being worked on through other developers. But trust me on this, TWRP is far superior and easier to use. Just an opinion, but wanted to shed some of your fears. I've used TWRP on several phones and it works extremely well.
Do you know if ROM Manager can be used with TWRP? Or would it even be necessary to install ROM Manager?
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RomManager is designed for CWM. I strongly doubt it will work giving recovery commands that reboot the phone. In fact, judging by the comments left about RomManager lately, I don't think it supports much of anything any more.
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Do you know if ROM Manager can be used with TWRP? Or would it even be necessary to install ROM Manager?
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RomManager is designed for CWM. I strongly doubt it will work giving recovery commands that reboot the phone. In fact, judging by the comments left about RomManager lately, I don't think it supports much of anything any more.
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rom manager is usually compatible with other recoveries (4ext comes to mind)
i cant speak from experience w/ twrp though
I think Koush kind of got overwhelmed with Rom Manager tbh. Soo many phones out there now...huge damn undertaking. It's slipped a little in popularity. I've read some posts where people were talking about experiences with him and support. Don't know how true they are as I've never spoke with him and everything posted on the interwebz is the gawd-honest troof. But support for new phones I think is seriously lacking at this point.
Whatever you do though, don't force CWM into your phone through Rom Manager though...you could be without a recovery
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I think Koush kind of got overwhelmed with Rom Manager tbh. Soo many phones out there now...huge damn undertaking. It's slipped a little in popularity. I've read some posts where people were talking about experiences with him and support. Don't know how true they are as I've never spoke with him and everything posted on the interwebz is the gawd-honest troof. But support for new phones I think is seriously lacking at this point.
Whatever you do though, don't force CWM into your phone through Rom Manager though...you could be without a recovery
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Thanks for the insight. My personal experience with Koush and his products have all been good. I was just wary of flashing something I've never used. My main goal right now is to just root my Inc 4G so I can get free WiFi tether. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data, but that doesn't include WiFi Hotspot. Then I'm going to wait for some CM10.
I will not even consider porting CWM. It is the worst available recovery and rom manager is garbage.
CWM was great on older devices like the original Incredible, but on newer devices, it has invited a lot of problems. You're much better off with TWRP. When the time comes to install custom ROMs on this device, consider using Goo Manager instead of ROM Manager--many developers are now supporting their ROMs on Goo.im and Goo Manager can do everything with TWRP that ROM Manager could do with CWM in terms of flashing.
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CWM was great on older devices like the original Incredible, but on newer devices, it has invited a lot of problems. You're much better off with TWRP. When the time comes to install custom ROMs on this device, consider using Goo Manager instead of ROM Manager--many developers are now supporting their ROMs on Goo.im and Goo Manager can do everything with TWRP that ROM Manager could do with CWM in terms of flashing.
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Thanks. I'm gonna flash TWRP tonight.
polarimetric said:
CWM was great on older devices like the original Incredible, but on newer devices, it has invited a lot of problems. You're much better off with TWRP. When the time comes to install custom ROMs on this device, consider using Goo Manager instead of ROM Manager--many developers are now supporting their ROMs on Goo.im and Goo Manager can do everything with TWRP that ROM Manager could do with CWM in terms of flashing.
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Can you explain why CWM isn't so good and TWRP superior? Im really curious?
I have used both, I had CWM on a few phones but only recently got introduced to TWRP when I needed to put a recovery on a tablet (kindle fire I think...). That being said, the Dinc 4G is the 2nd device I put that recovery on, and I guess it works fine, I mean its done everything expected of it without fail, then again, CWM was pretty reliable as well... soo...
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Can you explain why CWM isn't so good and TWRP superior? Im really curious?
I have used both, I had CWM on a few phones but only recently got introduced to TWRP when I needed to put a recovery on a tablet (kindle fire I think...). That being said, the Dinc 4G is the 2nd device I put that recovery on, and I guess it works fine, I mean its done everything expected of it without fail, then again, CWM was pretty reliable as well... soo...
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CWM has been associated with bad blocks, failing to fully wipe device partitions, and disabling charging while the phone is off making the phone remarkably difficult to resurrect if the battery dies, among many other device-specific problems (for example, 5.0.2.0 failing to make a nandroid backup with the ext4 mod flashed on the original Incredible). It's also annoyingly proprietary (ironic, when its primary purpose is flashing open-source ROMs...) in the sense that it ties in specifically with ROM Manager and the two are not very compatible with much of anything else (for example, openrecoveryscript).
TWRP is much more open (which is why apps like Goo Manager are able to support it) and has one really crucial brick-proofing feature that sets it apart: a battery indicator. (Some ports of CWM Touch have battery indicators baked in, but CWM Touch has largely been a porting mess and adoption has been very slow.)
Hi, I am s-off, rooted, eng 1.49, stock 2.1 and for some reason I cannot boot any altered sense roms. I can flash froyo aosp roms but they are running extremely slow. I can't seem to adjust any kernel. Anyone have any suggestions or something I'm missing?
I don't actively use this phone anymore, but what recovery are you using? Amon-RA is recommended, at least to eliminate that as the possibility of the cause.
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I used amon and it wasnt flashing then bonked something and could only flash new recovery via unlocker.exe which comes with clockwork. I was kinda just seeing if know issue that i was missing. I did try to flash amd then removed sd card and still didnt work.