This is for those achieving awesome battery life as it can help those who aren't. Please post what you did to get this much battery, how many hours you get out of it, and how much use it. I'll start:
About 11 hrs a day with moderate using...
Quicksense v3.0
Faux kernel v007
Baseband .07D
Oc/Uv using faux clock and system tuner (not posting values yet as I have not found a stable setting.) Maybe others can help me with this.
Acesoft 3.7 v 2010 ma battery.
This is on stock battery using quicksense 3.0
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Wow that's good. But could you post more info when you get a chance. How did you get that much and how much did you use it? Light user, moderate, or heavy user? Thanks in advanced!
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i used it moderately. only about 5 hours in wifi. some web browsing here and there and using twitter all day
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i used it moderately. only about 5 hours in wifi. some web browsing here and there and using twitter all day
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Wow that's awesome!
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-Using quiksense v3
-moderate use (games , talk, browse the Web, etc.)
-mostly on wifi.
-Using recommended kernel from OP of quiksense
- use screen filter app. disabled the LED buttons. when home, set screen to 50%. when I'm out I set the screen to 75%:
- Recorded video and took pictures (have a 1 year old son)
I used to only get about 8-10 hours on the previous version of quiksense. but when I updated to v3, I ran the battery collaboration when the battery was 100%. But I left it in the charger for another hour before I unplugged it.
I digg my new battery life.
Edit: I forgot to mention that I am using the stock battery.
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Nice
Good battery life!
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-Using quiksense v3
-moderate use (games , talk, browse the Web, etc.)
-mostly on wifi.
-Using recommended kernel from OP of quiksense
- use screen filter app. disabled the LED buttons. when home, set screen to 50%. when I'm out I set the screen to 75%:
- Recorded video and took pictures (have a 1 year old son)
I used to only get about 8-10 hours on the previous version of quiksense. but when I updated to v3, I ran the battery collaboration when the battery was 100%. But I left it in the charger for another hour before I unplugged it.
I digg my new battery life.
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I think im going to do the battery calibration then cuz i didnt think i would have to do that when i updated to v3.0 quicksense. but now that bulletproof is coming out im going to wait for that instead. I might disable LED buttons as well..Does screen filter app really work? From what i heard was that it just shadows the brightness but it doesnt lower the actual brightness from android.
Great job, this is what im talking about. I think many others will benefit.
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I think im going to do the battery calibration then cuz i didnt think i would have to do that when i updated to v3.0 quicksense. but now that bulletproof is coming out im going to wait for that instead. I might disable LED buttons as well..Does screen filter app really work? From what i heard was that it just shadows the brightness but it doesnt lower the actual brightness from android.
Great job, this is what im talking about. I think many others will benefit.
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Well, you can still turn off the backlight for the buttons (to help with screen bleeding) but I suppose it would save a bit of battery as well. Not sure about the shadowing part as I strictly use it to disable the button backlight.
I don't have a screenshot but I get about 20-24 hours on the stock battery. On a good day I play about an hour of music, talk for hours, Facebook about an hours worth, get about 60-100 or more work emails a day (I've set up my work POP account through gmail so phone doesn't pull emails), play about half hour worth of games, take a few pictures and about thirty minutes using Pulse to read news. Text a lot.
I'm using Fourth Bar Sense (loving it) with Faux v007 kernel and system tuner to OC.
*I have two gmail accounts with one account only syncing emails (work)
*Facebook only sync contacts and calendar once per day and I turned off notifications
*Turned off automatic time update from network
*turned off flip for speaker, pocket ring and lower ring when picked up (not sure how it's phrased in settings)
*turned off phone locator. I use where's my Droid
*I don't have Google backing up my phone. I use titanium backup
*I use accuweather from beautiful widgets and it updates every two hours
*use elixir toggle to control brightness and set to 10%, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. 10% I use at night or in dark rooms (don't want to go blind with a bright screen) 25% indoors and 50% or 75% outdoors (75% of I have my sunglasses on)
*Like Lunajilli, I calibrated my battery too by letting it charge over night, wipe battery stats in recovery (charger still plugged in) and rebooting. After that, I unplug and let the phone die. Then charge interrupted over night. I calibrate every time I do a full wipe for a new ROM
Hope this helps
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And forgot to mention, I have my network set to 4g only so my CPU isn't used to scan the networks when 4g is poor (I live in LA so coverage for 4g is good).
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For some reason it was on awake when the screen was off for hours after downloading a bunch of apps. I suspect it would have lasted longer otherwise. At the end it drained 20 percent in 5 hours on idle while I slept.
Anyways, moderate use, downloading apps from marketplace mostly l, checking email, and texting.
Quiksense 3.0, with recommended kernel.
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stixzadinya said:
I don't have a screenshot but I get about 20-24 hours on the stock battery. On a good day I play about an hour of music, talk for hours, Facebook about an hours worth, get about 60-100 or more work emails a day (I've set up my work POP account through gmail so phone doesn't pull emails), play about half hour worth of games, take a few pictures and about thirty minutes using Pulse to read news. Text a lot.
I'm using Fourth Bar Sense (loving it) with Faux v007 kernel and system tuner to OC.
*I have two gmail accounts with one account only syncing emails (work)
*Facebook only sync contacts and calendar once per day and I turned off notifications
*Turned off automatic time update from network
*turned off flip for speaker, pocket ring and lower ring when picked up (not sure how it's phrased in settings)
*turned off phone locator. I use where's my Droid
*I don't have Google backing up my phone. I use titanium backup
*I use accuweather from beautiful widgets and it updates every two hours
*use elixir toggle to control brightness and set to 10%, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. 10% I use at night or in dark rooms (don't want to go blind with a bright screen) 25% indoors and 50% or 75% outdoors (75% of I have my sunglasses on)
*Like Lunajilli, I calibrated my battery too by letting it charge over night, wipe battery stats in recovery (charger still plugged in) and rebooting. After that, I unplug and let the phone die. Then charge interrupted over night. I calibrate every time I do a full wipe for a new ROM
Hope this helps
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All this on 4g! So let's say I'm throttled should I switch to only gsm to save battery since you get the same speeds when your throttled.
Trust me everyone's info is helping! I'm gathering all this info and trying it out. And i thought I was moderate user. The way you guys use the phone I'd be getting 6 hrs most.
Also noticed that being on wifi makes a difference when saving battery. As for my soft keys I flashed the crt enabler since I know it turns them off and I don't need them.
Anyone who is oc/uv, can you post your settings I'd also like to try that until i find the best settings thank you
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fcpelayo said:
All this on 4g! So let's say I'm throttled should I switch to only gsm to save battery since you get the same speeds when your throttled.
Trust me everyone's info is helping! I'm gathering all this info and trying it out. And i thought I was moderate user. The way you guys use the phone I'd be getting 6 hrs most.
Also noticed that being on wifi makes a difference when saving battery. As for my soft keys I flashed the crt enabler since I know it turns them off and I don't need them.
Anyone who is oc/uv, can you post your settings I'd also like to try that until i find the best settings thank you
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If you change your network settings to just GMS only then it should save you even more juice than the 4g setting. But the main idea behind this is to minimize CPU usage by not allowing your phone to constantly scan for the best available signal. GMS only is a cherry on top
Wifi helps save juice for me too because wifi calling turns off the mobile network saving power.
I'm not O/C anymore because my phone is more stable that way plus it's already fast as is. Though, I'm not noticing much of a difference in battery life.
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What is the 'Awake' exactly? For some reason, my battery normally drains ~3% when I leave it on while I sleep, and usually only shows awake when I have the screen on.
For some reason it was on awake all night, screen off, and battery drained ~30%.
Also killed all tasks in the built in task killer and didn't help although I dont think that shows any background tasks..
mapleleafs89 said:
What is the 'Awake' exactly? For some reason, my battery normally drains ~3% when I leave it on while I sleep, and usually only shows awake when I have the screen on.
For some reason it was on awake all night, screen off, and battery drained ~30%.
Also killed all tasks in the built in task killer and didn't help although I dont think that shows any background tasks..
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Hmm, what do you have syncing in the background? If you're on one of x's roms I believe the Facebook live sync is always on so make sure that's off, if it isn't already.
An issue I had with the Sensation was that the automatic time & date update via phone network kept the phone awake so I turned that off. I did the same thing for my Amaze and the phone sleeps. If this doesn't help your awake issue at least it will help save some battery life since your phone won't be using the CPU to sync to update the time.
stixzadinya said:
I don't have a screenshot but I get about 20-24 hours on the stock battery. On a good day I play about an hour of music, talk for hours, Facebook about an hours worth, get about 60-100 or more work emails a day (I've set up my work POP account through gmail so phone doesn't pull emails), play about half hour worth of games, take a few pictures and about thirty minutes using Pulse to read news. Text a lot.
I'm using Fourth Bar Sense (loving it) with Faux v007 kernel and system tuner to OC.
*I have two gmail accounts with one account only syncing emails (work)
*Facebook only sync contacts and calendar once per day and I turned off notifications
*Turned off automatic time update from network
*turned off flip for speaker, pocket ring and lower ring when picked up (not sure how it's phrased in settings)
*turned off phone locator. I use where's my Droid
*I don't have Google backing up my phone. I use titanium backup
*I use accuweather from beautiful widgets and it updates every two hours
*use elixir toggle to control brightness and set to 10%, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%. 10% I use at night or in dark rooms (don't want to go blind with a bright screen) 25% indoors and 50% or 75% outdoors (75% of I have my sunglasses on)
*Like Lunajilli, I calibrated my battery too by letting it charge over night, wipe battery stats in recovery (charger still plugged in) and rebooting. After that, I unplug and let the phone die. Then charge interrupted over night. I calibrate every time I do a full wipe for a new ROM
Hope this helps
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It is crazy how much difference automatic time/date seems to make, but I have been doing this for a while now.
Do you know that "flip for speaker, pocket ring and lower ring when picked up" use extra power, or just assuming? I would think it just works off the proximity sensor.. Oh, and if you don't need it, you can also turn off network location and just turn on GPS as needed, that keeps apps that ask for location data from draining, seems to be a bit helpful.
Also, some roms by other devs will copy your battery stats file(before wiping), flash the rom, then copy it back.. this seems to keep you from doing having to recalibrate after flashing each rom. When a rom doesn't include this I would copy manually, flash the rom, copy it back manually(or push the file while in recovery with adb), then reboot- gave me better results. I was trying to find the last rom I used that did it, to see if I could give the code to xboarder- it is a nice extra feature
Silentbtdeadly said:
It is crazy how much difference automatic time/date seems to make, but I have been doing this for a while now.
Do you know that "flip for speaker, pocket ring and lower ring when picked up" use extra power, or just assuming? I would think it just works off the proximity sensor.. Oh, and if you don't need it, you can also turn off network location and just turn on GPS as needed, that keeps apps that ask for location data from draining, seems to be a bit helpful.
Also, some roms by other devs will copy your battery stats file(before wiping), flash the rom, then copy it back.. this seems to keep you from doing having to recalibrate after flashing each rom. When a rom doesn't include this I would copy manually, flash the rom, copy it back manually(or push the file while in recovery with adb), then reboot- gave me better results. I was trying to find the last rom I used that did it, to see if I could give the code to xboarder- it is a nice extra feature
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I don't have any hard evidence to support my claim but I try to turn off any unnecessary options that uses cpu or any other sensor to function. The Flip for Speaker, Pocket Rick and Lower Ring When Picked Up are unnecessary for me so I turn them off. I started doing this when I had the Sensation but before I do I used to get crap battery life. After I made the changes I've listed, including turning these features off, my battery life was much improved. So I now do the same thing for my Amaze and get over 20+ hours. Anyways, turning these features off are just a piece of the puzzle I use to help save battery life.
I haven't tried turning off network location yet but I see how that would also help save battery life.
I'll have to look more into copying battery stats. I didn't know I could do that. Thanks for the tip!
please do look into copying battery stats and post your results as we can all benefit from this. How do you even copy battery stats? Is it a complicated thing not for noobs.
After a full day I still have 40% left, light use.
Constantly on wi-fi when available (do not allow to sleep), pm disabled a ton of packages through ADB and screen is set to 40% too.
Overall very happy with battery life.
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Hello,
I'm trying to see if I can improve my battery life by killing things I don't need. I'm new to Android so I'm not sure what I need and don't and I'm not sure why some things are running as I don't think I've opened them or I thought I closed them but apparently didn't. (i'm used to click on an x in the top right corner to close an app )
I'll list all my running services and maybe some can help me figure out what I need to change. Some may have experience with apps I've added that might be bad.
1. Battery indicator pro - seems much more linear and accurate than the droid native one.
2. HTC Sense - I figure I really want that running.
3. People - not sure why that is running - I guess that is the contacts synced with Exchange.
4. Rosie Utility - I can't remember what that is
5. Beautiful widgets - I figure that is running beacause I have shortcuts for silent and vibrate.
6. Mail - I need my e-mail for work set for push - I can't go with 15 minute updates
7. Voicemail - I did check my voicemail - not sure why it is still running - can someone tell me
the proper way to exit an app/service so it isn't left running?
8. vdm client - not sure what that is.
9. Calendar - I need that synced
10. Market - no idea why that is running - I haven't used it on my phone but have on the web - is it left open just to keep the apps I download from the web on the phone?
11. Telenav GPS Navigator - not sure why that is coming up - I have not used that service.
and I have GPS turned off along with WIFI and 4G.
12. Google Services - not sure what that is for.
13. Maps - I used that a couple of days ago - perhaps I didn't shut it down.
14. CSPeopleSyncServices - what is that? Is that my contacts or is People or are both?
15. Bluetooth share - I don't have it set as visable, I only use BT from my headset - not sure why it says that.
16. Touch input - ??
FYI, I have WIFI off, 4G off, GPS off, sense sync off, gmail sync off.
I use BT to answer all my calls and I use my phone for work so I need it on always.
I need my phone to always sync my email accounts.
I use calwidet on my home page as I need my schedule always handy.
Hey buddy welcome to the wonderful world of android!
First off, let me ask what kind of battery life are you expecting? I don't know what kind of phone you are coming from, but you shopuld know that smartphones, ESPECIALLY this specific one with Android, generally get between 10 to 12 hrs of battery life. With heavy use it can go as low as 5 hrs.
Another thing you should know is that the Android operating system is meant to run a bunch of things in the backround, automatically stopping and starting apps as needed. Manually killing an app will actually waste more battery in the process of killing and starting it up again numerous times, rather than letting it run with minimum use in the backround. It is very efficient at this. We here at XDA never recommend killing apps or using task managers to stop apps for this reason.
I recommend this though: Clear the cache every once in awhile to free up space on your phone. You can do this by going into menu > settings > SD & phone storage > make more space. From there hit All application, then next, next , then Finish. This clears the temporary memory the apps are using, which not only speeds up the phone, it also saves battery by not making the apps work all the time to hold the memory.
Thanks for the reply. I thought perhaps if I could pevent services that don't need to even run from loading automatically it might help the battery life but as I am a newbie, I'm not sure what is and isn't necessary.
I was hoping for about 18 hours. My old WM phone got about 24 hours when it was brand new but the battery is 3 years old so it gets about 12 hours. I use the same email servers, I use voice dial a lot and make a lot of phone calls. My old battery was 1100mah. Now the EVO 3D has a bigger screen but supposedly HTC was using some newer energy efficent screen technhology. I notice though that just having the screen on at about 15-20% the battery goes down nearly 1% per minute. I know the EVO 3D has a more powerful processor but I also thought it was supposed to be very energy efficient.
Its still an HTC evo, so its gonna be a battery hog. Once we get a good asop rom battery life will be significantly improved.
boe said:
Thanks for the reply. I thought perhaps if I could pevent services that don't need to even run from loading automatically it might help the battery life but as I am a newbie, I'm not sure what is and isn't necessary.
I was hoping for about 18 hours. My old WM phone got about 24 hours when it was brand new but the battery is 3 years old so it gets about 12 hours. I use the same email servers, I use voice dial a lot and make a lot of phone calls. My old battery was 1100mah. Now the EVO 3D has a bigger screen but supposedly HTC was using some newer energy efficent screen technhology. I notice though that just having the screen on at about 15-20% the battery goes down nearly 1% per minute. I know the EVO 3D has a more powerful processor but I also thought it was supposed to be very energy efficient.
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No smartphone is battery efficient..... They all usually average one days usage, don't expect anymore unless your running a good custom ROM (will be available in the future). And like the other guy said, android is efficient in managing apps and you would probably be causing more harm then good by manually killing them. Good luck.
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download this
https://market.android.com/search?q=cpu+spy&so=1&c=apps
and make sure your phone is going into deep sleep
if it's not, start removing self updating widgets till it does, then check apps.
boe said:
Thanks for the reply. I thought perhaps if I could pevent services that don't need to even run from loading automatically it might help the battery life but as I am a newbie, I'm not sure what is and isn't necessary.
I was hoping for about 18 hours. My old WM phone got about 24 hours when it was brand new but the battery is 3 years old so it gets about 12 hours. I use the same email servers, I use voice dial a lot and make a lot of phone calls. My old battery was 1100mah. Now the EVO 3D has a bigger screen but supposedly HTC was using some newer energy efficent screen technhology. I notice though that just having the screen on at about 15-20% the battery goes down nearly 1% per minute. I know the EVO 3D has a more powerful processor but I also thought it was supposed to be very energy efficient.
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It actually gets great battery life if it can go into deep sleep. See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168224
Here's what I'm getting right now, I keep ALL the radios on 24/7 (4G, 3G, Mobile Network, WiFi, BT, GPS):
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download this
https://market.android.com/search?q=cpu+spy&so=1&c=apps
and make sure your phone is going into deep sleep
if it's not, start removing self updating widgets till it does, then check apps.
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ok how can you tell if your phone is going in to deep sleep ?
CheesyNutz said:
ok how can you tell if your phone is going in to deep sleep ?
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REM... Rapid eye movement.. duh
3D > iClone
CheesyNutz said:
ok how can you tell if your phone is going in to deep sleep ?
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did u download the app? it's pretty self explanatory.
how u test it is, you reset the timer, then turn the display off...wait a few minutes, turn it on and see if the cpu was in deep sleep.
After using the program they are suggesting to see if your phone is deep sleeping, u recommend you getting "autostart " (if rooted) so you can disable those apps from running on their own. I use that app and I get roughly 20-24 hours of battery life before needing to recharge.
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Neo3D said:
download this
https://market.android.com/search?q=cpu+spy&so=1&c=apps
and make sure your phone is going into deep sleep
if it's not, start removing self updating widgets till it does, then check apps.
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Hello,
I'm a newbie. I installed CPU spy - it appears that much of the time my phone is in a deep sleep. Now what?
phatmanxxl said:
Its still an HTC evo, so its gonna be a battery hog. Once we get a good asop rom battery life will be significantly improved.
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This isn't always true. While I had excellent battery life on cm6.... Cm7 never got close to sense roms on my evo. It's really a ymmv thing...
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nate420 said:
REM... Rapid eye movement.. duh
3D > iClone
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Neo3D said:
did u download the app? it's pretty self explanatory.
how u test it is, you reset the timer, then turn the display off...wait a few minutes, turn it on and see if the cpu was in deep sleep.
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nate you ass lol
neo yea figured that out after i made the post
What is the deal with this phone? The battery life is not very good at all. I came from a phone that had a 1150 battery and this one has 1600! I am getting almost identical battery life as my old phone. I am running a fully debloated rom at stock clocks with the display turned all the way down and can HARDLY make it through an 8 hour work day. I've narrowed it down to the screen.
I remember reading about amoled when it was first announced and they said it would consume significantly less power than any other display technology. I'm starting to second guess this.
Its either the screen or the dual core processor that's draining this decent sized battery so fast.
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I've been getting 12 hours on batter with almost 6 hours screen on time. Heavy usage. Every day. Better than my iPhone 4.
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Amoled does. From what ive beem read ing super amoled plus.is alot better. The darker the better. Slcd is.a.good option for battery mizers though.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Yes ive also read that the way super amoled plus works, is there is no backlight and individual pixels light up, so its better to have simple wallpapers with mostly black, would probably give you better battery life, as most of the screen will no be using any energy.
All android devices murder their batteries. It's nothing new get over it lol.
This device gets decent battery life considering it's the most powerful option out currently though.
The general masses do not understand how to set these phones up for optimal battery life. There are threads all over XDA on how to do this.
This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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Every app i use i set on black theme. Wallpaper black. Display all the way down unless IM out side or watching a movie. I get 12hrs plus using gtg's rom.
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I have no idea what you do with your phone or what . But I get more then enough battery with this phone, I do it all text talk surf web forums play and I make it home with enough battery to probably lend you some. Seriously we all know your not going to get iPhone battery life obviously the iPhone it just plain simple. But come on, this type of thread it's getting annoying there's a few already with help and tips on your issue search for them. Maybe you just got high hopes, or maybe it's not the phone it's you. BTW Amoled probably consume less battery but not enough for us power hungry users to see a different.
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I don't think is the screen alone itself but the dual-core running at 1.2Ghz might eat more battery than your old phone with an smaller battery
seh6183 said:
What is the deal with this phone? The battery life is not very good at all. I came from a phone that had a 1150 battery and this one has 1600! I am getting almost identical battery life as my old phone. I am running a fully debloated rom at stock clocks with the display turned all the way down and can HARDLY make it through an 8 hour work day. I've narrowed it down to the screen.
I remember reading about amoled when it was first announced and they said it would consume significantly less power than any other display technology. I'm starting to second guess this.
Its either the screen or the dual core processor that's draining this decent sized battery so fast.
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You might want to install CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats (BBS) so you can better diagnose where your battery issues are coming from. 8 hours seems very poor for this device. Use CPUSpy to see how much your device is running in deep sleep - with light usage I usually see around 80% deep sleep. You can use BBS to look for apps causing excessive wakelocks (BBS is available here on xda) to see if a particular app is causing the problem.
Unless you have a hardware problem, I don't think the display is your problem - the display on this device has a smaller percentage hit on battery use than my 3.2" LCD Aria.
bustabo said:
I've been getting 12 hours on batter with almost 6 hours screen on time. Heavy usage. Every day. Better than my iPhone 4.
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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roadrash7 said:
This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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Again since I am unable to recreate these results I'm gonna have to go with my phone is defective.
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seh6183 said:
Again since I am unable to recreate these results I'm gonna have to go with my phone is defective.
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Yet you've completely ignored people who have told you to get CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats to figure out what's keeping your phone awake.
Most likely your phone is not defective, but you've installed an app that's hogging the battery or set up a configuration option that kills it, such as:
Hotmail calendar sync is known to cause massive battery drain due to a Hotmail server side bug
Some Exchange servers are misconfigured and cause major battery drain
Skype is a battery-hogging nightmare. If you absolutely have to use Skype, make sure to take it out with a task killer when you're done with it.
I haven't really pushed my device with screen-on time, however what are your idle battery drain statistics? If you have drain more than 2-3% per hour when the phone is idle (such as overnight), something is very wrong. You should be getting drain on the order of 1% an hour if you leave the phone overnight in moderate signal.
Entropy512 said:
Yet you've completely ignored people who have told you to get CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats to figure out what's keeping your phone awake.
Most likely your phone is not defective, but you've installed an app that's hogging the battery or set up a configuration option that kills it, such as:
Hotmail calendar sync is known to cause massive battery drain due to a Hotmail server side bug
Some Exchange servers are misconfigured and cause major battery drain
Skype is a battery-hogging nightmare. If you absolutely have to use Skype, make sure to take it out with a task killer when you're done with it.
I haven't really pushed my device with screen-on time, however what are your idle battery drain statistics? If you have drain more than 2-3% per hour when the phone is idle (such as overnight), something is very wrong. You should be getting drain on the order of 1% an hour if you leave the phone overnight in moderate signal.
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I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
This still doesn't change the fact that HEAVY useage at 5+ hours of screen on time is absurd.
I am also planning to experiment with airplane mode and using only wifi tomorrow.
seh6183 said:
I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
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Make sure to do the following to get the most accurate data:
Top off to 100% (to the point you get the full-charged notification)
Remove from charger
Reset timers in CPUspy
Put phone down and go to bed
seh6183 said:
I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
This still doesn't change the fact that HEAVY useage at 5+ hours of screen on time is absurd.
I am also planning to experiment with airplane mode and using only wifi tomorrow.
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I'm not sure why you say 5 hour screen on time with heavy usage is absurd? Are you thinking that isn't possible with this device?
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This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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+me, amazing battery life w/the SGS2
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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You can still exchange with a new one under 14 days or 30 days. 6 hours with screen on is not absurd on this phone in 12 hours. I have been with screen on with 2:45 hrs and voice with 45 min in 1 day and 8hrs with still 15+ % battery juice left.
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IIRC, one of the review or comparison against iPhone4S benchmarked GS2 as 5 to 6 hours of internet browsing which means both screen on and using data. Wi-fi gives it a slightly longer battery life than cell data. Unfortunately, it didn't benchmark video playback time. iPhone4S spec says 8 hours of video. I hope GS2 is close to that. This is play video from local storage, not streaming. So, the data connection battery draw is out of picture. I managed to get 4+ hours of video playback with flight mode on with my old Captivate. Hopefully, GS2 will last longer, e.g. survive a coast to coast flight while still have some juice left for navigation.
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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He's not lying. I have seen 5 hours of screen on time and still had a little juice left at the end of 16 hour days. And it wasn't a one time deal. Seen it several times, though I usually don't use my phone that heavily. Yesterday I barely used my phone at all and was only down to like 85% after 16 hours.
I know this topic is always repeated but I fly I should havr made a thread anyway. This morning, in 15 minutes of web browsing, I lost 3% battery. In 10 minutes, I lost 2%, so it seems to be progressive. I just got this phone Friday.
That can't be normal, is it? I don't want to return it but I will if its a bartery issue. Could it be as simple as buying a new battery?
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Most people report good battery stats. Give it a week and see if it settles down. Might need a few recharge cycles to level out.
As mentioned, the OS needs a few power cycles to generate its Batt Stats to give you a more accurate baseline. Also if you need your device to last all day and into the evening with no supplimental charging, you may want to look into taking certain measures to ensure your battery life is sipped and not gulped. I am not sure your level of experience or you tech knowledge, but basically anything having to do with comms is going to suck life. BT, wifi, 2g/3g/4g, and gps are what we’re talking about. You can manage these manually or use apps to do it for you such as Juice Defender and 3gWatchdog to name a couple. My office is in the bowels of the building where reception is spotty. The first week with this phone, my battery was at 40% by lunch time. This is because it was constantly searching for signal and when it did get one, it was being forced to high power to maintain it. Since I really don’t use my handset much in my office, I decided to take drastic measures to see what could be done. I installed the previous mentioned software already to keep my data use under control (came from a unlimited plan sucking down 8-12 gigs/mon on average) so with a few tweaks it was set to assist me. So when roaming my building I check it occasionally and when in my office I switch to airplane mode since I have my email in front of me and I use Google Voice to ensure all my calls find me no matter where I’m at. I arrive at work at 0700 and stay charged in on my drive to work. So at 0700 I was at 100%. I switched to AP mode after 15 minutes of typical goodmorning watercooler talk. At 1200 I looked at my Note and it read 99%. I went to lunch and opened all connections up while in our cafateria and after 45 minutes I was down 5% with comms going and lots of email and FB browsing. I’m back in my office and still at 95%. Obviously not everybody can follow the scheduled use as I laid out, but it works for me since I don’t have signal anyways and will make day much easier when I have to do lots of running and wont be plugging in untill tonight around 2300 except when commuting. I’m hoping this trend of juice sipping continues on for the rest of the day.
Screen brightness\use also is a big juice sucker. So, with the big screen on the note you need to be mindful of that, too.
Thank you for taking your time on that long informative answer!
Asides, today at school, my phone was on complete idle standby with lowest possible brightness and Wifi off (but mobile data on) and by 2:00 (6-2 so 8 hours) I'm down from 90% to 75%.
Is it defective or is what I'm getting normal?
Edit: Forgot to add I have a Tasker that disables mobile data when turning the screen off.
Edit 2: The Tasker profile is for the screen facing down, not being off.
Still, is that not a lot?
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tjw345 said:
I know this topic is always repeated but I fly I should havr made a thread anyway. This morning, in 15 minutes of web browsing, I lost 3% battery. In 10 minutes, I lost 2%, so it seems to be progressive. I just got this phone Friday.
That can't be normal, is it? I don't want to return it but I will if its a bartery issue. Could it be as simple as buying a new battery?
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What are you complaining about those are great numbers. Losing 1% every 5 minutes means 500 minutes of screen on time, which is 7 hours and 10 minutes. Remember that's just with the screen on. With the screen off and sitting in your pocket you will lost about 1% per hour.
2g/3g/4g...each step you take the worse it is on battery. Restrict to 2g (edge) if you arnt downloading or doing anything. There's lots of toggles. What Juicedefender does is kills the connections untill you turn the screen on and I believe periodically between screen ons to pull any texts and such. The weaker the signal strength (bars) the more battery its using in order to stay connected. Try a few things and you'll be surprised at how stepping in a little to restrict its juice use will make a difference in battery life. Plus, as mentioned, give a few days to build those batt stats up, then it will give a more accurate measure of the current capacity.
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Thank you for taking your time on that long informative answer!
Asides, today at school, my phone was on complete idle standby with lowest possible brightness and Wifi off (but mobile data on) and by 2:00 (6-2 so 8 hours) I'm down from 90% to 75%.
Is it defective or is what I'm getting normal?
Edit: Forgot to add I have a Tasker that disables mobile data when turning the screen off.
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So you lost about 2% an hour. Typically you should see 1% per hour. So either you were in a low signal area which caused it to use more power to find a signal, or else you last charged it with a USB charger which prevents it from going into deep sleep (known bug). Or you could have a misbehaving app.
Download CPUSpy from the market an BetterBatteryStats from XDA and see if your phone is deep sleeping and check for wakelocks.
I last charged it with the OEM Samsung charger.
Is that the problem? The reason I started this thread is because I see people reporting (yes I know) that on standby they get great battery life.
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Every phone discharges differently, especially when new. The overall life is what's important as to whether it's acceptable to you or not. Give it 2-3 days of good ol fashion heavy use. A few good full charge then full discharge are good for getting a good baseline. I remember one of my phones would lose it's top 10% (100 to 90) in a matter of minutes of being unplugged, but then would be fine the rest of the day. This is what I mean by the overall being the important part. But the rogue app part could be something to look into. Aften when we get new phones we go hog wild with new apps with the "lets see what this baby can do" mentality, I say this because I am very very very guilty of it. Sometimes you get an app that malfunctions or is just straight BS. There some that open by itself. Some that you get Ppush notifications about buying ingame currency for and other shady stuff. I try to install only a couple apps a day to keep an eye on weird stuff happening.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Chief Greek, are you seeing around my results or do you think it is simply a matter of my battery stats not being correct as you said?
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I have been using my method I stated in my first reply. Here I sit about 9 hours later and my phone is at 92% with no supplimental charging.
Do you know of a way to get a 4G toggle into the dropdown menu for easy access alongside Wifi, Rotation, etc?
Those are some good stats though.
Edit-One app I do have installed is "RAM Manager" and I replaced Samsung settings with settings in app. Could that be detrimental&
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Havnt played with ram manager, although used something called cachemate before. Seemed to do the trick when phone was acting goofy or very lagged out. I would wait a few days and see if it levels out. Keep screen off when you dont need to use it and if you really really want to do something about it now, install the free juice defender and see how you like it. If you like it and want more controls, upgrade to one of their pad versions.
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It seems deep sleep is working. On the other picture, Alarm Clock had a wake lock of 44 minutes, is that bad?
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I can go for hours in standby w/o loosing any amount. Except when I forget the work-around for the charge wakelock. I will loose several percent per hour then...
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tjw - no, it doesn't look right.
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I can go for hours in standby w/o loosing any amount. Except when I forget the work-around for the charge wakelock. I will loose several percent per hour then...
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tjw - no, it doesn't look right.
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I loose 1% per 20-30 minutes on standby =/ What settings do you have/how many apps do you have? Do you keep Wifi/Mobile Data on all the time? Reason being, I want to get this figured out before I root/go any further. If it is indeed my own issue, I want to to get it sorted out. Is it worth a factory reset?
Not to get off topic but are the batteries from the international version and the Att version the same? Could they be a different type or manufacturer?
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Not to get off topic but are the batteries from the international version and the Att version the same? Could they be a different type or manufacturer?
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I am not an expert answer on this but yes, I'd like to think so. In some cases it would not be the same (being that ATT has NFC and International does not) but considering the NFC chip is NOT in the battery, it leads me to believe that the they are the same 2600mah batteries.
So, I was just with Samsung chat agent (who probably didn't know a lot about the phone) and she said lost of 25% was normal standby. Am I the only one with this? Techntreck, you get hours on standby?
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10% Battery left at this point. I started the day with 100% at 6:20am. It's 7:58pm (19:58) now. Is this bad?
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
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Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
Hey, so I've seen several people claiming fantastic battery life, etc. So, I am just wondering what's your experience in general. If you've got some free time and feel like typing, can you list several things like:
roms & kernel
stock/anker battery
battery life
screen time (and possibly voice call time or whatever else that seems to consume lots of the battery life)
highest battery temperature (I recently got pretty high so I was kind of worried)
and anything else you think might worth sharing (favorite actress? :silly
As for me, I recently installed Speed ROM 6.5 with stock kernel on stock battery
I only got 8 hours battery life to get to 14% with 3 hours of screen time (mostly used for game, browsing, and flipboard)
I got up to 100F (~40.5C) after playing a game for about 15-20 mins which made me leave it for a few mins to cool down. The next time I played the game again, it got up to 109F (~43.5C) after playing for 20-30 mins....
I am wondering whether that kind of high temperature is normal or not, and whether my battery life seems ok or bad; which is why I am hoping people can share their experience here. I haven't try using faux kernel though (might try it tomorrow in hope for a better batter life)....
So, again... if anyone got free time and feel like typing, please share it with me :angel:
From my g2 to this phone all I ever see is how bad the battery is. Never noticed a difference switching roms and battery across all smartphones I've used is allot what I expect.
Some people just can't be happy you know. Not to mention people never agree on anything (me included ).
Just my two cents
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Spastic909 said:
From my g2 to this phone all I ever see is how bad the battery is. Never noticed a difference switching roms and battery across all smartphones I've used is allot what I expect.
Some people just can't be happy you know. Not to mention people never agree on anything (me included ).
Just my two cents
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Well, first off, I am not trying to complain about the phone here. All I am asking/trying to find out is whether my experience is "normal" or not for Amaze.
I also come from G2 and obviously the battery life will be worse on the Amaze in general. This phone is 1.5ghz dual core and 4.3" display compared to 800mhz single core and 3.7" display on g2 with only extra ~300mah on the amaze.
I just want to know if my experience of getting only 8 hours battery life (with 3 hours of screen time consist of game and browsing) and getting a high temperature of 109F on the battery is considered "normal" or not for this particular phone. I only have one phone here; so, I don't know if my unit is bad unit or if it is normal for the Amaze.
So again, by all means, I am not trying to complain about this amazing phone here. I am just trying to find out if this is what normally happen with this phone.
And yeah I'm one of those guys that can never be happy :silly:. When I used G2, I want larger phone and faster performance. When I got Amaze, I want slightly larger screen and much better battery performance. So, yeah I can never be happy with my phone :laugh:
The temperature thing is definately normal, it can get pretty high. I've had it go above 109f while on video chats on Skype. As for thebattery, that's normal too its just dependent on the user. U may have something that's running continuously in the background that your not aware of that's causing drainage. Many things that could be effecting the battery really
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.16
My battery temperature is over 9000!
sorry someone had to say it
@OP, most likely you either have a bad battery, or your phone isn't sleeping properly on idle, or your phone has some problems with the RUU
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Battery is ~1900mAh. If you use it for 3 hours active at around 400mAh, that is 1200mAh
700mAh left for idling the rest of the 5 hours. My idle current usage is around 9-40mAh as reported by Battery Monitor Widget(go to settings, change monitoring mAh to HTC Sensation to get a better reading)
700/5 = 120mAh/hour.... this means your phone isn't sleeping properly
Get CPU Spy... install it, then put your phone down for an hour without using it.... after that, does the report show that it goes to deep sleep?
When I got my phone and flashed the ENERGY rom, I had ~8 hours of total uptime (1-2 hours of usage)... i reflashed the RUU (do it on 100% battery), then it is better now
Now, on the Energy STOCK ICS rom with FAUX latest(0.12?)
Anker battery
15 hours of uptime
1-2 hours of screen-on time(roughly 2-3 hours of phone "awake" time)
don't remember battery temps, but i don't ever remember ti being that high
interactive governor, max frequency 1.4 ghz(to maximize battery life)
data on, autosync on, 2 gmail accounts synced only
My 100%->80% battery drains in 90 minutes, but after that, it slows down
I added the following to build.prop to tweak more battery life
Code:
# Power Save Tweaks
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
pm.sleep_mode=1
If you really want to stretch out the battery, change the governor to powersave(forces processor to 192mhz always), but it definitely lags and I wouldn't recommend it unless you really really need to max battery life
EDIT: Go to Settings->power->see what is using my battery, post a screenshot (this one is 16 hours plus ~2 hours usage)
see the part that says "awake", and the part that says "screen on"? It should be correlate mostly -> when you use your phone's screen, the phone is awake.... when you turn off the screen, the device should be sleeping and not be awake
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aj_2423 said:
The temperature thing is definately normal, it can get pretty high. I've had it go above 109f while on video chats on Skype. As for thebattery, that's normal too its just dependent on the user. U may have something that's running continuously in the background that your not aware of that's causing drainage. Many things that could be effecting the battery really
sent from my NRGized Amaze,
powered by faux kernel v.16
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I guess this phone is just that "hot" eh....
So, you're saying that I should be able to get a better battery life than that?
By the way, did you use Juice Defender or anything like that? Or did you just let your mobile network and wifi on all the time?
`Ghost` said:
My battery temperature is over 9000!
sorry someone had to say it
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It hasn't exploded yet?!?! You can use your battery to heat up your room in winter :silly:
paperWastage said:
@OP, most likely you either have a bad battery, or your phone isn't sleeping properly on idle, or your phone has some problems with the RUU
Code:
Battery is ~1900mAh. If you use it for 3 hours active at around 400mAh, that is 1200mAh
700mAh left for idling the rest of the 5 hours. My idle current usage is around 9-40mAh as reported by Battery Monitor Widget(go to settings, change monitoring mAh to HTC Sensation to get a better reading)
700/5 = 120mAh/hour.... this means your phone isn't sleeping properly
Get CPU Spy... install it, then put your phone down for an hour without using it.... after that, does the report show that it goes to deep sleep?
When I got my phone and flashed the ENERGY rom, I had ~8 hours of total uptime (1-2 hours of usage)... i reflashed the RUU (do it on 100% battery), then it is better now
Now, on the Energy STOCK ICS rom with FAUX latest(0.12?)
Anker battery
15 hours of uptime
1-2 hours of screen-on time(roughly 2-3 hours of phone "awake" time)
don't remember battery temps, but i don't ever remember ti being that high
interactive governor, max frequency 1.4 ghz(to maximize battery life)
data on, autosync on, 2 gmail accounts synced only
My 100%->80% battery drains in 90 minutes, but after that, it slows down
I added the following to build.prop to tweak more battery life
Code:
# Power Save Tweaks
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
pm.sleep_mode=1
If you really want to stretch out the battery, change the governor to powersave(forces processor to 192mhz always), but it definitely lags and I wouldn't recommend it unless you really really need to max battery life
EDIT: Go to Settings->power->see what is using my battery, post a screenshot (this one is 16 hours plus ~2 hours usage)
see the part that says "awake", and the part that says "screen on"? It should be correlate mostly -> when you use your phone's screen, the phone is awake.... when you turn off the screen, the device should be sleeping and not be awake
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Hmm... I would try to check the stuff that you said. I did see the battery use like you did and I have much more awake (since I used it for games and browsing continuosly). But, when I was not using it, it doesn't show that many "awake" status which is why I thought that Amaze battery performance is just that poor. I forgot to try third party app like battery current widget or cpu spy. I will check those out.
Did you use Juice defender or anything like that? Or, did you just set them manually when you need it?
And I did leave my WiFi and auto sync on.... From your usage, I'd assume you turn off your WiFi when you're not using it, right?
Thanks for the input
Edit: So, I am guessing there's a rogue app on my phone? I just reboot my phone, leave it for a minute, and battery current widget shows 200mA on my notification bar
From what I'm reading your a heavy user. Like me lol. The most I get is 6-8 hrs. With 1.5-2 hrs screen on time. Comparing that with others who get double digits It's nothing but I'm a heavy user. I stream Pandora daily surf the internet for 1 hr non stop, xda for most of the time. . And on weekends I'll have most 4 hrs. But 3.5 of those screen on with data streaming and screen on with out going off. Kinda like watching a netflix movie on mobile network. I use my phone like if it is my laptop now. I rarely use my laptop. I don't have internet nor WiFi to connect to. But if I tether I would run out of data faster so I avoid it. Besides battery draining faster.
I think there is a difference between:
1. leaving the screen on for a while, causing the phone and battery to get hot. Specially when gaming because CPU is constantly running.
2. And total screen on time accumulated of 2-4 hrs screen on. Which is achieved when sporadically checking phone for text, calls, email, quick surfing. Then shutting of screen through out the day.CPU goes to deep sleep phone stays cool.
Now that's what I call a heavy user.
Remember when phone is hot battery drains faster so you need to find a way to cool it down. Sometimes there are settings in cpu apps that when phone reaches certain temperature that app will force cpu clock down a lot as to use less power to start cooling down but causing lag.
I've got a 4 month old stock battery with latest faux kernel v.16 with battery saving tweaks on it. Energy rom stock 8-1. If there is anybody that reaches double digits with 6-7 hours 4g mobile streaming not wifi at all. 2 hrs without turning the screen off not 2 total hours. Please say I? I'd really like to know your secret.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda premium
shuvarts said:
Hmm... I would try to check the stuff that you said. I did see the battery use like you did and I have much more awake (since I used it for games and browsing continuosly). But, when I was not using it, it doesn't show that many "awake" status which is why I thought that Amaze battery performance is just that poor. I forgot to try third party app like battery current widget or cpu spy. I will check those out.
Did you use Juice defender or anything like that? Or, did you just set them manually when you need it?
And I did leave my WiFi and auto sync on.... From your usage, I'd assume you turn off your WiFi when you're not using it, right?
Thanks for the input
Edit: So, I am guessing there's a rogue app on my phone? I just reboot my phone, leave it for a minute, and battery current widget shows 200mA on my notification bar
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Battery Current Widget... go to the options (top right), change the current selection(should be first row, then middle row) to "HTC Sensation" (it'll be more accurate)
that program doesn't accurately report mA if you don't change it(before changing, it'll be screen-off deep sleep 100mAh, but after switching, 10-40mAh)
I don't have Juice Defender on... autosync and data is on all the time
try w/o wifi on... i think wifi should take less battery power than data, but it always depends
on my screenshot, if you go back one and click on the screen-on... what does it say?
what does CPU Spy say about your phone going to deep sleep?
fcpelayo said:
From what I'm reading your a heavy user. Like me lol. The most I get is 6-8 hrs. With 1.5-2 hrs screen on time. Comparing that with others who get double digits It's nothing but I'm a heavy user. I stream Pandora daily surf the internet for 1 hr non stop, xda for most of the time. . And on weekends I'll have most 4 hrs. But 3.5 of those screen on with data streaming and screen on with out going off. Kinda like watching a netflix movie on mobile network. I use my phone like if it is my laptop now. I rarely use my laptop. I don't have internet nor WiFi to connect to. But if I tether I would run out of data faster so I avoid it. Besides battery draining faster.
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Maybe you should try to mod the Atrix Lapdock... if it works, you get a larger screen and a 35W battery
I've got a 4 month old stock battery with latest faux kernel v.16 with battery saving tweaks on it. Energy rom stock 8-1. If there is anybody that reaches double digits with 6-7 hours 4g mobile streaming not wifi at all. 2 hrs without turning the screen off not 2 total hours. Please say I? I'd really like to know your secret.
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if you are only getting 8 hours uptime with 1-2 hours of usage, then your phone's not going to sleep properly... I'd reflash the RUU, then flash Energy ROM and faux kernel... i had that problem before I reflashed RUU (but that was before I knew more about CPU states and mAh usage on this phone, so I don't know if it was a problem with the deep sleep, or the phone not properly updated to ICS when I got it from someone else)
you want to try to max battery life? I can give you hints to hit that mark... it's all about physics/electronics
your battery is 1900mAh.... Using Battery Monitor Widget(with the Settings changed to detect the phone as "HTC Sensation", see above)
With the tweaks in my first post of the build.prop, BMW shows my idle around 10-40mAh..... 10 hours of idle = 100-400mAh. Note, this is with sync and data on... if you use Juice Defender or data off, probably less
So, idle, you use up 400mAh... you have 1500mAh left
1500mAh / 6 hours = 250mAh each hour.... with BWM, it shows that the current usage goes between 100-500mAh depending on how much screen brightness, data used, processor speed... If i choose powersave, I think it goes between 50-300mAh, but its really laggy, noticeable
300mAh * 6 hours = 1800... close enough
to avoid the 100%->90% fast drain, employ bump charging:
either
1) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, wait for it to drop to 90%. replug it, charge to 100%... repeat for 5-10 times
2) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, shutdown. Replug it, wait till the light goes green, boot up, charge to 100%, remove plug and shutdown, replug it , wait till light goes green etc.... do the cycle for 5-10 times
I was trying to see how much I could get out of my phone. I used my phone as little as I could, putting it into airplane mode when I slept.
ROM and Kernel: I was using the latest build of Energy and Faux Kernel v.15 at the time of the picture
Using stock battery, unfortunately I do not know what the highest battery temperature is.
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idaggerpwn said:
I was trying to see how much I could get out of my phone. I used my phone as little as I could, putting it into airplane mode when I slept.
ROM and Kernel: I was using the latest build of Energy and Faux Kernel v.15 at the time of the picture
Using stock battery, unfortunately I do not know what the highest battery temperature is.
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unfortunately, for this device, the screen brightness and dual-cpu takes up a lot of power... if you see the pic below, when you use your phone(screen-on/awake), the battery % left has a sharp drop
I know for my old phone, LG Optimus T, I didn't have a data plan... the phone had data off all the time, and I got days out of using it(phone calls, wifi/browsing, checking gmaps offline)... once I enabled a data plan, it got half (like 1.5 days instead of 4)
if you calculate your usage... its possible
24 hours * 50mAh during idle = 1200 mAh
2 hours * 300mAh/hour during screen-on usage = 600mAh
total = 1800mAh, the capacity of your battery
paperWastage said:
to avoid the 100%->90% fast drain, employ bump charging:
either
1) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, wait for it to drop to 90%. replug it, charge to 100%... repeat for 5-10 times
2) charge your phone to 100%. remove plug, shutdown. Replug it, wait till the light goes green, boot up, charge to 100%, remove plug and shutdown, replug it , wait till light goes green etc.... do the cycle for 5-10 times
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So if I use either of those 2 methods above, is my battery 'cured" of the 100% to 90% fast drain? Or do I have to keep doing it over a period of time?
icepixie said:
So if I use either of those 2 methods above, is my battery 'cured" of the 100% to 90% fast drain? Or do I have to keep doing it over a period of time?
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bump charging only helps you for that one time... you have to do this every time if you want max battery capacity
the problem is 2 things
1) the hardware/software is configured to maximize battery lifespan, meaning to slowly charge it and not go to 100% (high voltage, damages battery)...
2) the hardware/software is poorly coded, can't read the battery voltage properly...
either way, doing this means you are forcing current into the battery every time... your battery will hold less charge in a few months if you force it to full everytime... so you have to get a new battery aftera couple of months or live with lower capacity
I will just try to observe it better tomorrow using all those apps. With much less usage (1.5 hrs of screen time), i only got 11hrs of battery life. The screenshot below is for those 1.5hrs f screen time... I dont use jd and got email sync every 1 or 2 hr though....
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app
I tested the idle-deep sleep capacity of the phone...
got 21 hours idle, 17 minutes screen-on (minimal use of phone) with 50% left
here is my phone with data and auto-sync ON, I got roughly 10 emails(all received during different times), had about 10 minutes of phone calls
NOTE: around the first part of the graph, you see the %-left spike up... I rebooted my phone then... and you can see that the battery-monitoring software/hardware part recalibrates itself to the real value
NOTE: cell standby-time of 21 hours used more battery than screen-on of 17 minutes.
When I used the phone for another 15 minutes, screen used 35% of battery while cellular standby dropped to 22%
tl;dr, using the phone, especially the screen, kills the battery a lot more... not using the phone = lasts a long time
paperWastage said:
I tested the idle-deep sleep capacity of the phone...
got 21 hours idle, 17 minutes screen-on (minimal use of phone) with 50% left
here is my phone with data and auto-sync ON, I got roughly 10 emails(all received during different times), had about 10 minutes of phone calls
NOTE: around the first part of the graph, you see the %-left spike up... I rebooted my phone then... and you can see that the battery-monitoring software/hardware part recalibrates itself to the real value
NOTE: cell standby-time of 21 hours used more battery than screen-on of 17 minutes.
When I used the phone for another 15 minutes, screen used 35% of battery while cellular standby dropped to 22%
tl;dr, using the phone, especially the screen, kills the battery a lot more... not using the phone = lasts a long time
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I guess after using all those apps that you mention, I can kind of see that Amaze battery is just way worse than my G2. I was pampered with my G2 battery life for a week and now I realized how bad Amaze battery is. lol
I got 11% left after 12h 15min. That's about 1550mA used (I use stock battery).
almost 3 hours of screen time (3*350) = about 1050mA
25 mins of phone call = ~120 mA
about 8h 45 mins of idle = 360mA
So, yeah, it summed up about right this time (more accurate compared to my first result where I think I got a rogue app)...
**I am eagerly patiently excitedly waiting for a fully working stable CM9 by sport :angel: **
On a side note, just wondering if anyone know if galaxy s2 have better, worse, or about same battery life? I am just curious since s2 is supposed to be amaze rival at t-mob....
Here's mine
Rom: Fourth Bar Jellybean Fusion
Kernel: Faux's Kernel, latest edition [August 15th]
Average Temp: high 90's
Average Battery Life: 5-6 hours.
Realize that what you do with screen on makes a significant difference- If I play organ trail(awesome zombie game styled after old school oregon trail game) I can play for a long time with little battery drain.. but it is a 2d game, and not going to be very processor intensive. If I play final fantasy 3, a 3d game, wow.. battery will drain much quicker, but then again, it IS a 3d game, and processor intensive. So HOW you use your phone is even more important than the screen on time.
With the latest faux(17) kernel, and 2-3 hours of screen on, the last few days I have 45% battery left after 15 hours since unplugged. Maybe 30-45 minutes was organ trail, but not much other gaming. The only changes I made, were made to the kernel, which I posted here(be aware that making all those changes will create some small lag changing screen orientation or opening app drawer, but haven't noticed anything else). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30298629&postcount=4
I also underclock to 1.2ghz- this doesn't create any lag, and no game or app I have used seems to work ANY better @1.5ghz than it does @1.2ghz. The main difference is the voltage it uses at max speed will be less @1.2ghz.
If you have weak 4g signal, there is an app i recently posted in some thread that puts it on 2g while screen off.. that has helped a lot too. If you have constantly good signal, then it won't make MUCH difference(tho 2g does drain less than 4g even with good signal), but it takes up to 2 seconds for it to switch to 4g after screen on. I can wait two seconds before opening an app, I don't care.
I assume you have used betterbatterystats to see what apps keep your phone from deep sleep, under partial wakelock?
And when I get obnoxious drain, but NOT because the phone isn't going into deep sleep.. I turn on the logging of an app called currentwidget- it can actually measure the MAH used while using specific apps.. the app itself can cause a bit of drain, but you'd only use it long enough to see what app is so battery inefficient. I have more about how to use that under battery savings part of the bible in my signature.
Edit: And I consistently get battery temperature of 77.7-77.9F, I always have, no matter the kernel or rom or settings.. perhaps it raises a TINY bit when I play some intensive game, but never noticeable. I am using an anker battery tho, so if you are using stock, perhaps that is a factor.
broker32 said:
Here's mine
Rom: Fourth Bar Jellybean Fusion
Kernel: Faux's Kernel, latest edition [August 15th]
Average Temp: high 90's
Average Battery Life: 5-6 hours.
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Whoa... I suppose there is someone out there with similar condition with mine... I almost thought I am the only one
Silentbtdeadly said:
Realize that what you do with screen on makes a significant difference- If I play organ trail(awesome zombie game styled after old school oregon trail game) I can play for a long time with little battery drain.. but it is a 2d game, and not going to be very processor intensive. If I play final fantasy 3, a 3d game, wow.. battery will drain much quicker, but then again, it IS a 3d game, and processor intensive. So HOW you use your phone is even more important than the screen on time.
With the latest faux(17) kernel, and 2-3 hours of screen on, the last few days I have 45% battery left after 15 hours since unplugged. Maybe 30-45 minutes was organ trail, but not much other gaming. The only changes I made, were made to the kernel, which I posted here(be aware that making all those changes will create some small lag changing screen orientation or opening app drawer, but haven't noticed anything else). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30298629&postcount=4
I also underclock to 1.2ghz- this doesn't create any lag, and no game or app I have used seems to work ANY better @1.5ghz than it does @1.2ghz. The main difference is the voltage it uses at max speed will be less @1.2ghz.
If you have weak 4g signal, there is an app i recently posted in some thread that puts it on 2g while screen off.. that has helped a lot too. If you have constantly good signal, then it won't make MUCH difference(tho 2g does drain less than 4g even with good signal), but it takes up to 2 seconds for it to switch to 4g after screen on. I can wait two seconds before opening an app, I don't care.
I assume you have used betterbatterystats to see what apps keep your phone from deep sleep, under partial wakelock?
And when I get obnoxious drain, but NOT because the phone isn't going into deep sleep.. I turn on the logging of an app called currentwidget- it can actually measure the MAH used while using specific apps.. the app itself can cause a bit of drain, but you'd only use it long enough to see what app is so battery inefficient. I have more about how to use that under battery savings part of the bible in my signature.
Edit: And I consistently get battery temperature of 77.7-77.9F, I always have, no matter the kernel or rom or settings.. perhaps it raises a TINY bit when I play some intensive game, but never noticeable. I am using an anker battery tho, so if you are using stock, perhaps that is a factor.
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Good to know that. I used a different app to check the current mah and it seems reasonable. I forgot to use better battery stat; but, based on cpu spy, the deep sleep time seems about right... I haven't updated my kernel to v17 (still on v15) and haven't done any edit that you mention since I was still switching roms to find the ROM that suits my need. I might try to do those stuffs today and hope for the best.
And btw, I am kinda jealous with your battery life... 45% left after 15 hours unplugged and 3 hours screen ON
I might get similar result; but my battery left will be 10% and those screen on are mostly on flipboard, xda, and browsing....
Like right now, 6h 10min unplugged, 40 mins of screen on (xda & flipboard), and I am down to 66% :crying:
**On a side note, I just get my hand on gs2 and I am just curious to try and see how good it is since gs2 seems to be such a hyped up device compared to amaze.... :laugh:
shuvarts said:
Like right now, 6h 10min unplugged, 40 mins of screen on (xda & flipboard), and I am down to 66% :crying:
**On a side note, I just get my hand on gs2 and I am just curious to try and see how good it is since gs2 seems to be such a hyped up device compared to amaze.... :laugh:
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Just checked my usage. I'm sorta similar to yours in terms of screen on time. 11 h 43 m since unplugged, 39 min screen on (facebook, news, texts) and I'm down to 62%. My screen on time isnt that high, yet something else is draining my battery.
Awake time is 1 h 44m. Lots of Alarm Manager partial wakelocks. need to figure out what's causing those