A coworker just bought a Rezound and has been getting really great battery life. Over 24hours with 40% remaining (with light usage, he is new to Android). This blows my mind because I've forgotten to unplug my phone overnight and saw it run down 5% an hour with the screen off.
I checked to see if they snuck a software update but he is running the same 1.02.605.6 as I. But my PRL is 15088 and his is 15098.
How do you update PRL?
Also, what is your PRL?
Mine is also 15088.
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At Verizon Tech Support they can push the newest eprl and re provision your SIM from their end but there isn't a way an end user can really request an EPRL update as it's supposed to happen periodically when it's necessary. That being said, 15098 is definitely the latest for 4G smartphones and if the server has setup the push to your MDN then pull your battery and SIM out for approx 1 minute and re-power it all back up, walk away from the phone for about 5 minutes and then check it to see if it updated.
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At Verizon Tech Support they can push the newest eprl and re provision your SIM from their end but there isn't a way an end user can really request an EPRL update as it's supposed to happen periodically when it's necessary. That being said, 15098 is definitely the latest for 4G smartphones and if the server has setup the push to your MDN then pull your battery and SIM out for approx 1 minute and re-power it all back up, walk away from the phone for about 5 minutes and then check it to see if it updated.
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Just did precisely that, and it is still 15088. Powered off, Removed SIM and batt for 2 mins. Powered back up, waited 10 mins. Still 15088
I'm sure this isn't a huge deal since 4G is very strong in my area, but it could be something to do with how it is provisioned on their end. I also have the problem with 4G continually dropping out while Mobile Hotspot is turned on.
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Just did precisely that, and it is still 15088. Powered off, Removed SIM and batt for 2 mins. Powered back up, waited 10 mins. Still 15088
I'm sure this isn't a huge deal since 4G is very strong in my area, but it could be something to do with how it is provisioned on their end. I also have the problem with 4G continually dropping out while Mobile Hotspot is turned on.
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what that means is that your line hasn't received the push/flag for the EPRL update...if it really bothered you, call them and ask them to push the EPRL and I'm sure they can facilitate it, just make sure you don't call from your phone and make sure it's OFF when they do the push
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what that means is that your line hasn't received the push/flag for the EPRL update...if it really bothered you, call them and ask them to push the EPRL and I'm sure they can facilitate it, just make sure you don't call from your phone and make sure it's OFF when they do the push
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Doesn't bother me enough to warrant a conversation with Tech Support. Doubt it would matter, if I did bother with the effort.
Thanks for awaring me, though.
I have 15098 out of the box had my phone about 2 months and am
Also running a extended battery I get about 21 hours with moderate use and full 4g and full brightness...talking my daughter into getting 1 aswell she wants the latest and greatest nexus but when when we ran the specs side by side rezound was the winner... And all I got at first was a (Really) but she's getting it espically since I'm paying for it...lol
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Doesn't bother me enough to warrant a conversation with Tech Support. Doubt it would matter, if I did bother with the effort.
Thanks for awaring me, though.
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Yea, I wouldn't bother, if you were somewhere it mattered the only negative impact would be that you just wouldn't get new 4G data towers since that EPRL was released, which was in early December.
Charger13 said:
I have 15098 out of the box had my phone about 2 months and am
Also running a extended battery I get about 21 hours with moderate use and full 4g and full brightness...talking my daughter into getting 1 aswell she wants the latest and greatest nexus but when when we ran the specs side by side rezound was the winner... And all I got at first was a (Really) but she's getting it espically since I'm paying for it...lol
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15098 wasn't available on day one so yours has definitely updated itself on it's own, as it should
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what that means is that your line hasn't received the push/flag for the EPRL update...if it really bothered you, call them and ask them to push the EPRL and I'm sure they can facilitate it, just make sure you don't call from your phone and make sure it's OFF when they do the push
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Got bored at lunch and called to have them push the PRL and they said they cannot. He said they roll out in batches and would eventually get to mine.
I will have to say, I thought I was also getting better battery life and wasn't quite sure why??? I just checked and I am on prl 15098, not sure if thats part of it but I am def getting better battery life.
I'm on PRL 15061. I purchased my phone a week after release. I have no data problems what so ever.
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Holy crap...I'm on 14008. I think a call to VZW's tech support is in order.
Unless you are all in the same city/state/region, your PRL is probably correct.
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Got bored at lunch and called to have them push the PRL and they said they cannot. He said they roll out in batches and would eventually get to mine.
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Lol, well...I can't say anything in certain mediums, but yes, It can be done, I do it ALOT.
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Holy crap...I'm on 14008. I think a call to VZW's tech support is in order.
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You're fine, probably on an Alltel plan.
If you're worried about battery life i'd suggest a new kernel w/ some undervolting and underclocking. My phone has been on 38 hours and I have 28% left.
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If you're worried about battery life i'd suggest a new kernel w/ some undervolting and underclocking. My phone has been on 38 hours and I have 28% left.
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If I wanted a 1GHz phone I would have kept my hTC EVO
And I use my phone. A lot. I will never have more than 12 hrs on a battery because it doesn't sit in my pocket for very long.
I am curious to see if there is any correlation between PRL 15098 and improved battery life.
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If I wanted a 1GHz phone I would have kept my hTC EVO
And I use my phone. A lot. I will never have more than 12 hrs on a battery because it doesn't sit in my pocket for very long.
I am curious to see if there is any correlation between PRL 15098 and improved battery life.
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Um, NONE! It simply just tells the phone what frequencies to use to connect to the network.
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Um, NONE! It simply just tells the phone what frequencies to use to connect to the network.
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And there's zero chance this affects battery life? k
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If I wanted a 1GHz phone I would have kept my hTC EVO .
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My understanding of a custom kernel underclocking is that it only does it when the phone is in an unused state then when you're actively using the phone the overclocking takes effect and then you'll be running at 1.83GHz. Plus, the EVO isn't dual core is it?
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My understanding of a custom kernel underclocking is that it only does it when the phone is in an unused state then when you're actively using the phone the overclocking takes effect and then you'll be running at 1.83GHz. Plus, the EVO isn't dual core is it?
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I understand the benefits of overclocking and underclocking, and there is always a compromise. A topic entirely outside the scope of this thread.
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stock 2.1 rom 10% battery drain per hour when sleeping
sc 2.9.2 UV 50 kernel (dont remember the full name) 3-5% sleeping in my pocket, BUT 1% drain every 3minutes when the screen is on the LOWEST setting.
Just odined back to stock, and 2.2 was already available to me.....so i OTA upgraded and my battery battery is even worse than that of stock 2.1. 12% percent for sleeping AND crazy battery drain when using the screen... i cant get over 7 hours of using my phone moderately....
warranty is voided since i rooted right???
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dont u guys even dare telling me to recalibrate my battery and all that nonsense. none of this works.
No its not voided, you got the update via ota right? As long as you don't bring it in there rooted you should be fine.
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Technically yes, but if your back to 100% stock, with no root, then know one well know you rooted.
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Have you checked spare parts to see whats eating your battery?
Here are some things you could have done or do.
-Clear battery stats using terminal emulator
-Use app called juice defender
-Use UV kernel (seems like you did)
-Use Set CPU and bring down max frequency to 800MHz.
-Turn off GPS, Wifi, Bluetooth when not in use.
My suggestion is Odin to DI01 and then get the two OTA's EA28 and ED01 and then just run complete stock, and do not install ANY apps, yes I know who wants to run a phone with 0 added apps, you can update any stock apps, but if you run your phone for a day or 2 with just that setup and your having the same issue then go to verizon and get your phone replaced, also keep track of any settings you change, you want to try and keep your phone stock as much as possible, the only stock setting I personally would change is not have live wallpapers.
If your phone is over a year old, you might want to consider getting a new battery for it. No rechargable batteries stay 100% for over a year.
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If your phone is over a year old, you might want to consider getting a new battery for it. No rechargable batteries stay 100% for over a year.
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The phone has not been out a year, so its impossible for him to have it longer then a year.
Good point
Seems like this phone has been out damn near forever. Was trying to help. You have a better idea, or do you just troll these forums looking to bust peoples' balls while offering no actual help of your own?
the fear i have with taking it to Verizon is that. i didn't originally buy the phone. i got it of craigslist....so another question i have is, is there a warranty sticker to show if its ever been taken apart? maybe the previous owner replaced it with a cheap POS screen, that why it eats more battery...
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the fear i have with taking it to Verizon is that. i didn't originally buy the phone. i got it of craigslist....so another question i have is, is there a warranty sticker to show if its ever been taken apart? maybe the previous owner replaced it with a cheap POS screen, that why it eats more battery...
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Hmm ... I'm not sure about the replacement screen theory ... that seems like a lot of work for ??? benefit.
I second the advice about going stock and not installing any apps. Also, I don't see that you listed some of the things from Battery Use and Spare Parts that are listed as taking up battery life. There are apps that start things up automatically (e.g. Pandora always starts a service when I connect my bluetooth headset, even though it doesn't do audio and I've never used Pandora over bluetooth) ... sometimes you can change this in the settings, sometimes you have to decide how much you want to live with the app.
Out of curiosity, do you leave WiFi on when not connected to a network? I find that sucks battery pretty bad. I use Locale to turn that off when not at home and only turn it back on if I need it. I also used a widget called Traffic Monitor for a little while to see what was using data.
Honestly, you won't be able to return it to Verizon. My husband bought an Ally off Ebay and found out when we got the phone that something wasn't right, so he went to Verizon store and once they found out where it was bought they didn't even want to help him out.
I would suggest calling Verizon and tell them that the phone you have now doesn't work period. You'll need to emphasize that you need a phone that works. I called Verizon the same night that the store didn't help my hubby out and after an hour with the customer rep, I was able to get a new Ally ordered for him and his upgrade date wasn't until Dec of this year. He got his new phone late Feb/March I believe.
If they say they can't help you, keep telling them that you need a phone, and then ask them if they can see if a supervisor will be able to help you out. I stayed on the call with them, until they had that new phone ordered for him-I didn't give up. If the 1st day you call doesn't pan out, call them the next day as each rep is diff and some are really wanting to help, others couldn't care less.
Hope this helps you out.
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the fear i have with taking it to Verizon is that. i didn't originally buy the phone. i got it of craigslist....so another question i have is, is there a warranty sticker to show if its ever been taken apart? maybe the previous owner replaced it with a cheap POS screen, that why it eats more battery...
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Good point
Seems like this phone has been out damn near forever. Was trying to help. You have a better idea, or do you just troll these forums looking to bust peoples' balls while offering no actual help of your own?
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I did offer a suggestion, which is the same thing that Verizon would ask you to do, and its the same suggestion even most Carriers should ask you. Same with a lot of computer companies should ask you when you are having issues with your computer.
Reset your machine to standard stock, run all your updates, don't install any apps, and see if it still happens, if your battery is just as bad, then we know its either your phone or battery, either way Verizon will trade it out for you, because honestly what else can it be? The only way Verizon can really say tough luck and deal with it is if the battery life he is saying he gets, is what everyone else gets, which we all know is not true.
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stock 2.1 rom 10% battery drain per hour when sleeping
sc 2.9.2 UV 50 kernel (dont remember the full name) 3-5% sleeping in my pocket, BUT 1% drain every 3minutes when the screen is on the LOWEST setting.
Just odined back to stock, and 2.2 was already available to me.....so i OTA upgraded and my battery battery is even worse than that of stock 2.1. 12% percent for sleeping AND crazy battery drain when using the screen... i cant get over 7 hours of using my phone moderately....
warranty is voided since i rooted right???
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dont u guys even dare telling me to recalibrate my battery and all that nonsense. none of this works.
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I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/12/motorola-droid-razr-max/
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If its anytime soon you bet your ass i will be leveraging big red to swap us o.g. razr owners out into this new Pepsi err i mean razr max
Are you serious right now....
Man, I don't even want to look at any new phones right now! Ahhhh!
Man, Moto is pissing out a new phone every two months these days. Thats messed up.
If this phone is put out to address current razr issues as stated then we all have a right to this device at no additional charge or change in our contract. Seems like motor/Verizon are admitting guilt with this.
This better be a joke. #$%#$%@#$%%&*^%%[email protected]#[email protected]$!
"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
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The question is... did we get the RAZR to have the best and show it off to friends and to be on top of the phone game or.... did you get it cause it's a super duper cool phone that you will enjoy to use?
There will ALWAYS be a better spec'd phone out there than the one you currently have, unless you get one every three weeks or so.
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True,...its just usually not by the same manufacturer.
I'm not having any battery issues. I haven't set up any smart actions yet and keep the screen at 100% and I get a full day with moderate use. My DX running CM7GB never came close to that. I had to carry extra batteriesif I was going anywhere after work. I couldn't even make it through a 10 hour workday without recharging. I'm very happy with the Razr. I just want to know what to do after 500 charges and I'm still under contract!
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"battery issues" quoteth the article?! After a couple of weeks, only basic usage of smart actions (e.g. turn off radios and sync over night) and regular usage.. a few calls, data sync on during the day either via wifi at work/home or mobile data when out and about.. I'm getting over two days between charges as are others afaik (not everyone to be sure.. but the current razr is doing a damned fine job!!)
YMMV of course
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Re battery comments, my home and office are literally just one mile and over a hill from four bars of 4G, so I'm on strong 3G most of the time. I don't use WiFi much, dozens of emails, perhaps an hour or so of calls, numerous SMS, market updates / downloads, Angry Birds, surfing, and I can easily go from fully charged at 0600 to 30% battery at 2200.
This is perfectly acceptable for my needs, but as noted above, no 4G, and I find that WiFi draws my battery faster than idling on 3G--which seems contrary to the experience of many others. This is better than my T-Bolt, and even tho I travel a lot, I don't mind the sealed battery--I carry a couple iGo 1,540 chargers instead of a couple T-Bolt batteries when traveling.
Hopefully everyone realizes that's a Photoshop image with an article based on a story from a Verizon store employee. The same employees that normally do not know JACK SQUAT about when a phone is coming out... But either way, there's ALWAYS going to be a better phone out several months after you buy yours.
There will be newer models for sure. Why everyone is being unhappy with that ? Would you like to follow a brand like SE who still sells singlecore phones ?
Get over this bs and get used to technology if you like to follow it.
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You on the xt910 or 912 ? The GSM version doesn't support 4g and does not have the same issues as the Droid razr
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
i thinkit might be The model for the china carrier
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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The xt910 doesn't have the connectivity issues we have thus causing further drain...
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xt910 so no 4g, but have read of plenty of people whinging about battery life on the gsm versions too
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I'm using the gsm version now and the battery is as expected. I've had plenty of dual core phones this year and they all seem to have similar battery life.Compared to my last phone, a sgs2, the battery is not quite as good, but it is very close.
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Instead of releasing a new phone to piss us off, they can recall all RAZRs back to replace the battery with a more capable one (as the user shouldn't be able of replacing it himself, but it's easy to replace) and sell the new RAZRs with already the new battery.
Or damn at least Moto, make the new MAXX battery to be compatible with the "old" RAZR, so that we can replace it "losing the warranty"...
I am trying to understand this phenomena.. I realize this is more of a philosophical topic than a technical topic, but its something I think about ever day when I read the forums and try to help people with stuff.
To start, my good friend, and my wife have rezounds. To be fair, my wife could care less about the ROM she is running, but, I like to keep her updated. My friend and I go back and forth about what rom is better, he likes Rrez rom, I like Cleanrom, but we flash back and forth.
Out of the 3 of us, We have never had any of the problems that I see other people having. Why?
We all (you guys too) have the same phones, we flash the same software, how is it that Joe gets 24 hours of battery life, flawlessly smooth performance, crystal clear reception.. while John gets an overheating battery, stuttering performance, unusable signal and 4 hours of battery life?
I continue to read posts from people complaining that this rom sucks or that rom sucks..
So.. is it the PERSON, the PHONE or...
maybe not all rezounds are the same inside, and maybe some software does not work with some versions of the phone. That seems pretty ridiculous though.
When I flash mine and my wife's phone, i usually "race" them to see who's is fastest (ya.. its stupid i know). But from the first power down, to wiping to flashing the rom. i press the buttons at the exact same time, and both phones complete the process at the exact same time, boot up in the exact same time..
you get the idea.
just to see if there are any differences, I did a clean flash of clean rom 4.1 on both phones, and let them sit with the screens on, full brightness for 1 hour. they BOTH drained to 83%.
These phones were purchased 3 months apart, and one from VZW and the other from Amazon.
my buddy has never had any of these problems either (his wife has a rezound, but she wont let him flash it)
none of us have had problems, why?
I am not trying to discount anyone's problems, obviously if your phone is overheating, its not something you are making up.. but why is it that YOUR phone heats up, yet mine doesn't
This is a real question, and I think it deserves some sort of analysis. A real answer could go a long way to helping people who are having problems others are not.
Case in point, people are complaining that the radios in the new leak suck. They are getting crappy reception and they regret updating.
i LOVE the new radios!!! i get AWESOME reception!!.
Right now im sitting at 17 hours with 30% left and I tethered my laptop at school for 3 hours while doing homework at school.
A few days ago, I let the battery die (didnt charge it overnight) and it charged over 60% in 30 min, it was awesome lol
60% in 30 minutes? on the new ICS firmware? it took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to go up from 14% to 70% today...
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60% in 30 minutes? on the new ICS firmware? it took me 1 hour and 20 minutes to go up from 14% to 70% today...
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trust me, I was just as surprised as you, I was sitting in lecture and it shut off on me. I went to study and plugged it in with the HTC charger and the supplied cable (i love that cable) while I read over some material, 30 min later I unplugged it and it was at 62%, I almost fell over lol
im on 4.1 with stock kernel. I flash my phone so much that I dont have **** installed on it (battery saver wise or whatever). It just a normal phone. I dont OC it, I dont run apps that close programs..just stock build
I've wondered the same thing. I'm somewhere in the middle here. I have some heat problems (can't charge and use a lot of mobile network, heavy games push me to 120-ish), my battery life kinda sucks (it's great, as long as I don't use it... but I get like 2 hrs screen on time). Overall though, it's not a terrible situation, and I still dig the phone.
But stories of 24 hour battery life and never seeing temps above 90 sound like tall tales to me.
I think some of it is that we all have our own interpretation of "moderate" use. I'd imagine some people think two hours of screen time is moderate use (a few facebook checks, some phone calls, and some email over the course of a day). To me it's extremely light... I'm at an hour+ by 10AM most days, 2 by the end of work, then I run with gps, play a game or two in the evening, and you get the idea.
I can't speak for those who have radio/ reception problems... but I've become pretty convinced that the other two main "issues" are mostly due to perception.
I think some of this may be location... if you are in an area where reception is spotty, your phone works harder to gain a connection, gets hotter doing it and uses more battery power.
I went from last Thursday to Monday morning with zero WiFi and the phone was using more power than my normal use, but the connection was solid, speeds were solid as well. I normally use WiFi most of the day because if I am at home or at work, I have a good solid WiFi signal and the phone uses less power (for me at least). My test over the weekend was a good test for me showing that while 4G was solid, if I have WiFi available I save battery power using it.
In general, I have rarely had issues with any phone that I use. Never had to replace one or return it for defects or any other reason. I am good to my equipment though, my Dinc still looks brand new and I got it pre-launch.
It's about 20% phone problems and 80% problems with the people. A good majority of people who flash and then complain are those who don't know what the heck they're doing. In the case of the new firmware, many didn't follow the directions to a T. They got a bad flash or a bad download. Then there are those who flash a new ROM and don't take the time to read everything before doing so. These are the 80% that are essentially complete morons. They do idiotic things that just can't be explained. These are the types of people who should either not be flashing ROMs or who should be using iPhones. In my opinion, if you don't read everything and then complain about something not working correctly, it's your fault.
That being said, there are phones that just suck straight from the factory. Some people who really know what they're doing have these phones and get bad results when running the new firmware and different ROMs. There are plenty of these people on here that have these issues. I feel bad for these people. I certainly don't feel bad for the other 80% who go into a thread and complain that the ROM sucks or something when it's completely their fault.
EDIT: And yes, much of the battery drain and temp problems can be blamed on location for those who have phones that just can't seem to grab a 4g signal for too long. I live in an area where my 4g is solid 99% of the time, so I have no issues. I was in an area about 2 hours south of where I live the other day, though, that had crap 4g signal. My phone definitely drained pretty quickly that day and did get a bit hot.
These are all good points. and actually I never considered location before,
And i thin you are right on with the perception. There has to be a way to standardize some of the stuff to rule out perception. So when people say "man i get crappy battery" We can say "well did you run the (insert standardized battery test) test? what was the result?"
say the test was something like leaving the screen on for 2 hours, starting with a full charge and in airplane mode to rule out reception. Theoretically, all phones with the same ROM and kernel should drain the same amount ..
It is also common for people to see a new mod/rom etc.. and rush to try it out without doing any prep for how they will recover if it doesn't work, how to go back, ramifications of the changes they make... checking first to see if others had problems with it first... etc.
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It is also common for people to see a new mod/rom etc.. and rush to try it out without doing any prep for how they will recover if it doesn't work, how to go back, ramifications of the changes they make... checking first to see if others had problems with it first... etc.
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Exactly. The "80%" problem in my post. People don't read. It's a shame.
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Exactly. The "80%" problem in my post. People don't read. It's a shame.
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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Shouldn't make you laugh... it's a great idea!
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lol, Rom devs should put in a system where new people are required to read the entire "read me" file along with flash instructions, and then answer a 20 question test and score at least 90% on it. Then, and ONLY then do they get the DL link After 10 or so times of doing this, the requirement would be lifted.
this idea makes me laugh..
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Hahaha that's actually a really good idea lol I would change it to 95% or higher, though.
i know for a fact i'm not blaming it on the rom, or not reading right, or not flashing the firmware right.
i did everything right, and i'm 150% positive of that. thing is, when a rom runs great for the first 4 days or so, then out of nowehre i'm going from 18 hours of battery to 5 hours of battery, clearly there's an issue SOMEWHERE.
i'd love to blame it on verizon trying to push 4g here, but i run on wifi most of the time, so i don't think that's it.
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i know for a fact i'm not blaming it on the rom, or not reading right, or not flashing the firmware right.
i did everything right, and i'm 150% positive of that. thing is, when a rom runs great for the first 4 days or so, then out of nowehre i'm going from 18 hours of battery to 5 hours of battery, clearly there's an issue SOMEWHERE.
i'd love to blame it on verizon trying to push 4g here, but i run on wifi most of the time, so i don't think that's it.
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I've read your posts in the threads. I meant to put that in my post that you weren't one of the 80% I was talking about. I think yours is a case of the other 20%. Or it could be something to do with the firmware going all bonkers on you.
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I've read your posts in the threads. I meant to put that in my post that you weren't one of the 80% I was talking about. I think yours is a case of the other 20%. Or it could be something to do with the firmware going all bonkers on you.
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by the way, your sig is aweomse.
And yes, **** does happen sometime. but its usually clear from the way the post is written that the person was clueless.
posts usually start like this
"I tried searching but didnt find the answer...."
and then they ask how to flash the rom, or something else that has been covered 1000 times (you have to UPGRADE TO NEW LEAK FIRST)
yeah man, i really hope it's not! everything went smoothly...well, almost smoothly, i was one of the few where the phone froze on the white HTC screeen, and i did a batt pull, and when it rebooted, it began the second step of installation..but i have yet to have any force closes or anything. maybe i'm subconsciously using my phone more? i really don't think so. screen on time should pretty much help judge that, and it's not showing anything out of the ordinary...and better battery stats isn't showing any crazy up time..my awake time is like 39%..i mean, maybe the 4g issue is it? idk..like i said, i run wifi often, so that means mobile networks OFF...
then again, i'm running just 3g tonight ot see if 4g comes on again, and 3g keeps turning off, and switching to 1x..like, constantly...so they MUST still be doing something down here..
Serinety said:
by the way, your sig is aweomse.
And yes, **** does happen sometime. but its usually clear from the way the post is written that the person was clueless.
posts usually start like this
"I tried searching but didnt find the answer...."
and then they ask how to flash the rom, or something else that has been covered 1000 times (you have to UPGRADE TO NEW LEAK FIRST)
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Hahahahaha, that's a dead giveaway that they didn't really look lol.
And thanks If you click on my sig it'll take you to my thread to look at others I've done lately
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yeah man, i really hope it's not! everything went smoothly...well, almost smoothly, i was one of the few where the phone froze on the white HTC screeen, and i did a batt pull, and when it rebooted, it began the second step of installation..but i have yet to have any force closes or anything. maybe i'm subconsciously using my phone more? i really don't think so. screen on time should pretty much help judge that, and it's not showing anything out of the ordinary...and better battery stats isn't showing any crazy up time..my awake time is like 39%..i mean, maybe the 4g issue is it? idk..like i said, i run wifi often, so that means mobile networks OFF...
then again, i'm running just 3g tonight ot see if 4g comes on again, and 3g keeps turning off, and switching to 1x..like, constantly...so they MUST still be doing something down here..
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I got stuck also. Scared the hell out of me. But mine seems to have gone through the RUU perfectly and I've been getting insane battery life lately. Like at least a day every cycle on a stock 3.8v. It really could be a case of bad timing with the new firmware and Vzw updating 4g in your area that could be killing your battery. I hope you figure it out soon, though. That would be driving me insane.
you're running the RUU? i'm running joel's Bamf. works pretty well; i like ICS better, in general
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you're running the RUU? i'm running joel's Bamf. works pretty well; i like ICS better, in general
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Sorry, I meant I ran the leaked RUU and firmware and that's where I got stuck for a minute. But I'm on BAMF right now. I always run the latest BAMF.
Motorola aiming to upgrade all possible devices to Jelly Bean, promises to give you $100 credit if it can't
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/motorola-jelly-bean-upgrades/
That's actually pretty interesting.
Thinking about it a bit it seems to work out in Moto's favor quite a bit. They'll update their newest phones and the people who are using their older phones will have incentive to get a newer model and thus give them more money.
HTC could do something like this.
I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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Pre-emptive strikes pre iPhone & to climb back up. The RAZR Maxx needs to go multi-carrier , well really just the 3,300 mAh spec on the bar phones.
Good moves.
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I don't know that I'd buy another motorola, don't get me wrong, I love the phones, but the locked bootloader and slowness of updates kinda kills it for me. They're probably doing this to keep business from going elsewhere due to these problems.
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I second that the wifes atrix i had to reflash it 4 times in one month because the hardware sucked
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Its $100 off a new handset.
Not exactly the same. If they failed to upgrade I wouldnt want to buy another phone they'll fail with
thats not exactly hard to do since they have the line in there all "new and currently selling devices..."....doesn't cover stuff sold 1yr ago...so in that case HTC could easily cover this as the ONE series as a whole should be able to get it....ie they could say it and NOT upgrade the EVO3D and not have to pay 100bux as the evo3d isn't being sold anymore brand new since its EOL at sprint...
I'd take a HTC running ICS over moto running JB any day of the week!
Can't stand the subpar display moto uses.
Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
Got stuck with a permalock bootloader on the photon and complained until I got an early upgrade to this phone. Plus they promised ics for the phone right outta the gate and peeps will be lucky to get it before 2013. I will not buy moto again, no way no how.
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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Slightly off topic but HTC should have hired Steve Kondik
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That's funny. I just today found out he works for Samsung. I'm SURE some of his ideas make it into their SW.
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I'm sure they just handed the source over and said fix it lmao
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Now that Google owns Motorola mobility things might get better....ah who am I kidding Google buys and shelves things all the time
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This I want to be hopeful that things will change but then I remember Google is add always good ideas just don't always follow through or it isn't time for it yet.
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Rxpert said:
He doesn't do anything for Samsung with cm
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I know, they hired him for their software, i wasnt saying it was for cm, never did
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the_hustleman said:
HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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i managed 2 1/2 days mediium use and almost 3 days with light to no use, using it hardcore on 3g for hours on end i managed 5 before i started running the battery down (using phone while charging) and even now that i definitely know ive shortened the battery life i can still manage 2.75 hours non stop hardcore use on 3g, when i switch to wifi this phone becomes the terminator and refuses to die lol if only i got that kind of use on cm, but hey its a nightly and these last 2 update are very close to my normal life, pretty soon they will surpass it
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HTC should do the same AS WELL AS make it mandatory that all their phones have removable batteries AND make them last all day because NONE of the current crop of phones has a battery that can last 24 hours. All the screen shots that show that much time are from people that don't really use the phone much at all.
Also a micro sd in addition to internal storage should have been mandatory
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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Over a day with over 3 hours of screen on time which included video streaming is pretty damn impressive considering how I was using a high brightness setting and how big the screen on this phone is.
You're expecting too much without showing any understanding of why it isn't easy to get a high end phone to last all day. It has high powered components that draw more power, as well as a bigger screen than most phones on the market. What we get from it is impressive and it isn't going to dramatically improve anytime soon, unless they start to include DROID RAZR MAXX sized batteries, which I doubt will happen soon.
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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I don't think i expect too much, just a battery that can last 24 hours with normal usage.
I couldn't even get 24 hours out of the raxr maxx although it came the closest.
Basically you're saying you get over a day while only using the phone for 3 hours. On a work day I'll do 4 hours just to and from work, then time during lunch and sporadic phone checks during the day and after so many hours of use, phone dies.
My galaxy s 3 had gotten me 17 hours once, but the phone was just sitting there for the most part.
I tested the standby time and just let it drain and got 3 days it of it, would have been more of i didn't send that text lol
I just want a better battery
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You're getting stuck on the concept that you're only "using" your phone for as long as the screen is on. Even when the screen is off, it's doing a lot of work.
With current battery technology paired with high powered phones, you just aren't going to get that full day with a ton of screen on use that you want. We all want that. It's just not really possible right now.
14,520 on Antutu.
Very impressive for a stock device! I guess this would certainly explain why this phone is so snappy! Without question, this is the smoothest phone I have ever owned. On the downside, I'm sure this is also why the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
Now I'll just anxiously await the ROMs that can help save my battery. Fingers crossed...
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Nice bro.
Once they release the Unlock, then we'll be able to root and get that score higher just by deleting all of that Verizon and Amazon crap...
It's extremely unneeded, but I want to see this beast get overclocked to see how high we can get these benchmarks to go.
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14,520 on Antutu.
Very impressive for a stock device! I guess this would certainly explain why this phone is so snappy! Without question, this is the smoothest phone I have ever owned. On the downside, I'm sure this is also why the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
Now I'll just anxiously await the ROMs that can help save my battery. Fingers crossed...
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I don't know what phone you have, but the battery is great on my DNA.
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really proves the bad build quality of LG
14,583 for me
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dsb9938 said:
I don't know what phone you have, but the battery is great on my DNA.
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I'm using a Nextel i830. I must have posted in the wrong forum... Good catch.
C'mon, the device I'm using is clearly listed in the signature you copied to your own reply. That being said, you mention that the 'battery is great' on your DNA. Would you mind elaborating on how you use it? I recognize that you are a developer, and if you are actually trying to help, I'm very curious what the differences are. Maybe I have a faulty device??
- Do you keep wifi on all day?
- Same for bluetooth?
- What about data usage? 4G, etc?
- Is GPS on or off?
- Do you have any apps set to sync automatically?
- Made many phone calls?
- Watched any movies?
- Surfed the net?
Etc...
Yesterday at around 2PM (after posting the benchmark), I had to run to Comcast to swap out my modem. When I saw the line, I thought I was at the DMV. The sign said 'Now serving #24'; I had just pulled # 81. At that time, my phone had been off the charger for approximately 6 hours. I looked at my phone and had 39% battery left, so I figured what the heck, I'll watch some video and let time pass. I use a Bose BT2 headset which is typically intended for phone calls, but it works very nicely for media also, so I used it while I watched The Office on the Xfinity app. About halfway through the 3rd episode (approximately 55 minutes), the phone died completely. Barely 7 hours of use on a fully charged battery. Oh, how a replaceable battery would have come in handy during the last half hour of my wait.
When the phone is on, I absolutely LOVE IT, though I am quickly losing faith in this phone's ability to satisfy my wants and desires in an electronic device. I think I may return to the RAZR Maxx, though I would really miss having Sense... I'll give it another week; I must be missing something, right?? I sure hope so. :fingers-crossed: