Hey, I'm thinkink about switching from a X10 on Rogers to a HTC desire on Telus because where I'm located I can only get the EDGE network on rogers.
Do you think the HTC desire is a good phone, or better or worse then X10?
Considering its almost identical to the nexus one I would assume its a pretty decent phone
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i personally like x10 more, but desire is better though...
Im sure the phone itself is great but i dont know a single person with telus whos happy about the network or their services
Moving from a X10 to Desire isn't much of a leap. I suggest keeping the X10... unless you absolutely *must* have a Desire.
I agree with @javagreen
dpk0875 said:
Im sure the phone itself is great but i dont know a single person with telus whos happy about the network or their services
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Where I'm located in Nova Scotia Rogers doesn't have 3G available and its coverage is pretty week, Telus has 3G everywhere and way better coverage though.
I don't really have any issues with the X10 or special attraction to the Desire its just the Desire would probably be my best option if I switched to Telus, UNLESS there was some issues or problems the Desire has that I don't know about. Or something majour that the Xperia has or can do that the Desire can't.
From what I gather the Xperia won't be moving past 2.1 and the Desire has 2.2 now so I know that much.
Well my sister has a Desire since she's with Telus, i'd think its not bad considering its running 2.2 froyo and has decent support.
But if you absolutely must switch to Telus, you could potentially unlock your X10 to have it work on the Telus network since they essentially use HSPA or you could wait for them to launch the Desire HD.
I didn't think my X10 would work on Telus because of the whole Rogers=GSM(sp???) and telus = CDMA. I'm actually really interested in the new Motorola Atrix 4g but thats going to offered by Bell which I've heard nothing good about plans and billing wise. I know Telus and Bell use the same towers so the Atrix might work with Telus too I guess but I really have no idea. If anyone knows if it would please let me know.
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I didn't think my X10 would work on Telus because of the whole Rogers=GSM(sp???) and telus = CDMA.
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This was the case, however now Telus and Bell have their HSPA+ network, utilizing SIM cards and for 3G, needing the frequency 850/1900 Mhz, which i believe the X10 fulfills. However because they don't have a GSM/EDGE network, the phone won't have any service. Telus and Bell are just gradually distancing themselves from the CDMA network.
So I've read a bunch on this from all sorts of sites. I believe this to be possible, but need some help with the technical aspect of this.
I posted in the Thunderbolt section because it is probably closest to the Evo 3d, from a hardware standpoint, and need info on how the thunderbolt is configured.
I can get it activated that is not an issue.
A few questions:
1) How to get the phone talking to the network?
I've updated to the verizon prl, and when I *228 I get the verizon programming prompts, but It won't update programming due to not being activated.
2)Do you think the Thunderbolt radio will work with the Evo 3d?
2a) If not, would it be possible to merge the T-bolt radio code with the Evo radio code to create a hybrid?
3)Settings, would any know the ##3282# settings for the verizon network.
If you could post the non-personal info that would really help. Please exclude MEIDs, phone numbers, etc.
I understand this is difficult, I've also read the posts, "Why not just go to sprint?", I'm not interested in those responses. This is a challenge, and I'd like to complete it.
Dev's what do you know?
The sprint 4g network isn't compatible with Verizon's as sprint uses wimax and verizon uses lte so the radios would be completely different hardware.
In theory since sprint and verizon phone are both capable of useing the same cdma frequencies 1900mhz and 800mhz you should be able to get 3g working
The question becomes why would you want to use verizon if you cant take advantage of the 4g. And also why would you come here insted of just googleing your question
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Activate Sprint phone on Verizon, Altell, etc... Network. - PPCGeeks and it might help
And why wouldn't you post it in Q&A where it belongs or in the EVO 3D forum? I predict a short life for this thread.....
I did post in evo 3d, and it was moved to Q+A. Apparently the dev forums are to advertise Rom, kernals, etc. for the devs. Not actual development.
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I did post in evo 3d, and it was moved to Q+A. Apparently the dev forums are to advertise Rom, kernals, etc. for the devs. Not actual development.
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No, they are to post development. What you're asking is definitely Q&A. Devs do spend time at Q&A. I see them answer questions regularly. What do you think the EVO 3D has in common with a Tbolt?
Aren't they basically the same phone, just with a second camera? Same form factor, processor, memory, etc?
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Aren't they basically the same phone, just with a second camera? Same form factor, processor, memory, etc?
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Nope. Totally different CPU. It's running a Snapdragon S3, as opposed the the Tbolt's S2. The memory is the same. More advanced GPU. Faster USB. The screen is a bit different because of the linticular 3D feature. The CDMA radio might be similar. If my understanding is right, he's gonna need to find a ROM from the Tbolt that's been ported to the EVO 3D so that the data will work since Sprint and Verizon use different device authentication for data service. I'm not even sure that's possible since the devices are so very different. If what they say is true, and the Tbolt replacement more closely matches EVO 3D specs, I think finding a ROM ported to the 3D will be easier, or possibly the tools to make it work across networks. As it stands, they just don't have a lot in common.
Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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GSM SIM cards aren't frequency specific. So long as the handset functions on those bands it should work. In Europe, Mecha of GSM, carriers cannot sell contract-subsidized phones so the SIM must work regardless of the band the carrier uses. LTE is a subset of GSM, and if the same rules apply, there shouldn't be an issue.
Yes it can be done, but the wimax would be completely worthless and it would require a ESN/MEID clone/donor device which is technically illegal other than a few remote clauses that are often read WAAAAY to loosely. In short, just wait for the device on verizon or switch. IF you really want to do it, there are folks that can step you through it if you google enough.
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Nope. Totally different CPU. It's running a Snapdragon S3, as opposed the the Tbolt's S2. The memory is the same. More advanced GPU. Faster USB. The screen is a bit different because of the linticular 3D feature. The CDMA radio might be similar. If my understanding is right, he's gonna need to find a ROM from the Tbolt that's been ported to the EVO 3D so that the data will work since Sprint and Verizon use different device authentication for data service. I'm not even sure that's possible since the devices are so very different. If what they say is true, and the Tbolt replacement more closely matches EVO 3D specs, I think finding a ROM ported to the 3D will be easier, or possibly the tools to make it work across networks. As it stands, they just don't have a lot in common.
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I'm really looking for a solution to the connectivity issue. I'm not worried about WiMax, just the 3g capabilities. I know I can get it added to the verizon db, and I already have Verizon service. I'm looking for real solutions, not "switch to Sprint".
Loonatik is on the track I'm thinking of. I know I need settings changes that I can make, but don't have the info for.
I'm NOT going to do a ESN/MEID swap, not worth the risk.
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Well it can be done, just follow these steps:
1. Switch to Sprint
2. Load a Verizon PRL onto the Evo 3D
3. Enjoy until they kick you off in a few months for roaming too much.
Other than that, the only other possible way would be if Verizon added the ESN to their phone list, and the chances of that happening are..... well, zero.
Unfortunately, they do this so you can only get the equipment from either them, or by private seller (ebay,CL) and they can put more cash in their pockets. It may be possible to do this in about 10 years when everything is LTE, as (please correct me if i'm incorrect) the net neutrality laws do not allow carriers to limit the types of phones accepted on the network, and you can potentially switch 4GLTE sim cards between phones of different networks. Unfortunately (again), it seems that AT&T and Verizon are going to be using different frequencies for their LTE networks, so it seems that this idea won't work either. Looks like they win again.
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Actually, it is possible but not with a phone that uses a SIM to store all the configuration. It uses a different registration method than the phones that do not require a SIM. Besides, any phone not specifically designed for LTE won't support the 4G data anyway.
Hi, I'm from India and I buy Motorola Electrify M XT-901 and its working fine Indian CDMA sim with data but I noticed 1 thing that when I enable DATA and used internet, my no give busy tone if that time any one call me. I used many of GSM android smartphone but the problem is I never face in GSM phone. I can't understand that its Mobile problem or Network problem so I call Network Operator and they told me its not network problem its handset problem. What should I do? Can anyone pls help me out? Any one can face same problem?
Problem : If someone call me when my internet enable then my no give him/her busy tone so when I used internet I don't know who are calling me.
Please tell me any suggestion cause its very big problem for me...
Well first of all, I am not sure if this is the best place for the thread since this is Photon/Electrify forums (MB855/853) and not sure if there is an Electrify M forum. Also, you are saying you use CDMA sim, which is unlikely since CDMA doesn't use sim cards, so you need to clarify that. Some additional information might be helpful such as the name of your operator, ROM you are using and whether you have changed any settings at all or not.
Enviado desde mi MB855
Yeah, like others have said, while Electrify = Photon - 4G, Electrify M is a whole other animal altogether. I think it's the US Cellular version of the RAZR M or something like that.
Anyway, if XDA doesn't support the Electrify M (and I wouldn't expect them to... they don't much like US Cellular), check out this forum that does. Bonus: the administrator/owner uses an Electrify M, or at least he used to. So there are people there who know about it.
Also, while the Electrify M does use a SIM card, it's strictly for LTE. Now, if you're getting your phone (voice) over LTE (VoLTE) that's something a lot of us (and them over on TUSC) might not be familiar with as VoLTE isn't set up in the US yet. On a regular Electrify M in the US, data is typically handled over LTE (SIM) and voice is handled over CDMA, so you can talk on the phone while surfing the web. That's one of the perks of the LTE phones.
Cheers!
Hi folks,
I've got an unlocked HTC One Max which I bought SIM free from Amazon UK. I'm using Three as my network provider in the UK and they've begun rolling out 4G to Glasgow where I live. One of my colleagues is also on Three with a Samsung Galaxy S4 and he started picking up a 4G signal this morning in the office whereas I'm still only seeing 3G. We had a poke around on our respective phones and in the Mobile Network Settings under Network Mode he's got more options than I do, including one for LTE. I've only got two options: WCDMA only and GSM/WCDMA auto. Without being able to select an LTE option in here I don't see how I'm ever going to pick up a 4G signal. Does anyone know why I'm seeing no LTE option in here and how I go about sorting that?
Okay, so I did a live chat with an HTC rep who confirmed that if there's not LTE option available in the settings then I've got the 3G only variant of the handset. I've no idea why HTC would even sell a 3G variant in the UK as it makes no sense at all, but I looked on Amazon and they only sell a single variant of the phone (which is definitely the one I bought) and curiously the listing for it doesn't clarify either way which network protocols it supports. I even tried Googling the product number (99HWN005-00) but I can't find any solid information about which version of the phone that represents. I'm hoping here that it's just a mistake and I should've been sent the proper 4G variant but it's impossible to say for sure when the Amazon listing gives no info at all about what they think they're actually selling. Either way I'll still be trying to get Amazon to take some amount of responsibility here because I think I made a fair assumption that I'd be buying the 'proper' version of the phone from them; especially as there's nothing on their site to tell me otherwise. I suppose it'll be down to how seriously Amazon take customer service as to how far I get with them. God damn it!
Grrrr. So I did another live chat with HTC to try and find out more about which models they sell in the UK. The Amazon listing has a model number and I was hoping HTC would tell me that's the model number for the LTE variant so I could go back to Amazon to say they'd mis-sold me the wrong version. This time though I got a different story; the HTC rep told me my handset is definitely LTE capable and what options you see for networking are tied to what the SIM card is capable of. His assertion was that Three had given me a 3G only SIM card and getting that sorted would fix it.
However, I swapped SIM card with my colleague who's getting a 4G signal from Three and it made no difference on my handset; I still only got the same 3G network options and, of course, only got a 3G signal. It also occurs to me that I checked with another colleague this morning who's got an HTC One but only on a 3G contract with O2 and he's already got the LTE network options (although he only ever gets a 3G signal of course).
So, yeah, this second call to HTC was a load of nonsense. Excellent. Back for a third time I go...
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Grrrr. So I did another live chat with HTC to try and find out more about which models they sell in the UK. The Amazon listing has a model number and I was hoping HTC would tell me that's the model number for the LTE variant so I could go back to Amazon to say they'd mis-sold me the wrong version. This time though I got a different story; the HTC rep told me my handset is definitely LTE capable and what options you see for networking are tied to what the SIM card is capable of. His assertion was that Three had given me a 3G only SIM card and getting that sorted would fix it.
However, I swapped SIM card with my colleague who's getting a 4G signal from Three and it made no difference on my handset; I still only got the same 3G network options and, of course, only got a 3G signal. It also occurs to me that I checked with another colleague this morning who's got an HTC One but only on a 3G contract with O2 and he's already got the LTE network options (although he only ever gets a 3G signal of course).
So, yeah, this second call to HTC was a load of nonsense. Excellent. Back for a third time I go...
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Perhaps the variant you purchased does not support the lte bands that your carrier is using. That's usually the difference between the variants....radio support.
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dottat said:
Perhaps the variant you purchased does not support the lte bands that your carrier is using. That's usually the difference between the variants....radio support.
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Even if that was the case I would still need to see the option in the settings to turn on LTE; I don't even have that option so regardless what bands my carrier is using my phone wouldn't pick up a 4G signal of any kind.
I've basically somehow ended up with a 3G only variant of the phone which frankly they shouldn't even be selling because there's no point. I might ping HTC again with a more direct question but they don't seem to be able to tell me what I've got so it's more likely I'll just go back to Amazon and see what they have to say about it.
Also I did a quick check and Three are using the 800 MHz band which the 4G version of the HTC One definitely supports.
Okay, so, I sort of got it fixed but it's a really stupid situation. There's a key code to get into a hidden setting menu on Android (*#*#4636#*#*) which bypasses the normal options and allows you to force the network mode to any of the ones Android itself supports; so it's got all sorts of weird **** like EVDO and whatever in there. I went in there and forced on 'LTE only' mode and now I can pick up 4G if I stand in certain parts of the office. I've put it to 'GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto' and it should now go up to 4G whenever it gets a strong enough signal and work as it should. Why I've had to do that hack to get it working, and why the normal user level UI doesn't expose the LTE related options, is a ****ing mystery though. With KitKat rolling out that might might sort it but I shouldn't need an OS update to expose functionality the hardware's already capable of. It's really ****ing stupid all in and not doing HTC's rep any favours with me as I'll probably have to repeat the same stupid hack every time I reboot the phone.