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Hi All,
I came across a few articles online that suggest that the task managers/killers actually do more harm than good. As far as I know, the Android OS is pretty good at multitasking and managing apps when it is needed to free RAM/CPU.
Would like to hear input specifically regarding the X10 and how these apps affect the system and/or phone specially after the 2.1 update?
Thanks!
Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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I've read online about how closing some apps such as mediascape will affect your other media applications cos these services are tied together. But I've always killed all of the ones I don't see myself needing in the next hour or so, and nothing's ever really crashed for me heh.
But I do make it a point to close all apps before running quadrant. Very very pleased with my 730 score
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Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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Dumb question, how do you check the RAM?
Best get something like autokiller memory optimizer.
You generally don't need much ram free and if you don't use apps that will eat the hell out of your system in the bg then there's no problem at all.
I haven't used a task killer since switching to 2.1 and there's no performance problems.
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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gaolinde said:
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
By automatism, after I updated to 2.1 I installed advanced task killer, and at one point I noticed that, whean I had killed apps ammount of free RAM decereased ? So at that point, I uninstalled task killer to check will I notice any change in performance, and there was NONE I could notice, together with same battery duration.
So, so far I vote for no task killers.
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
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come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
gaolinde said:
come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
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Yeah I know we have custom ROMs. I was referring to the official update from SE. I know we will get the UXP update sometime in the future but, not sure if they will go as far as releasing a 2.2 update for the X10?
I don't use it anymore since on 2.1, when using it on 2.1 there's a lot of glitches and it DOES do more harm than good. I get better overall performance without it.
I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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Yes but, according to Android developers, 2.1 automatically closes these idle programs to prevent that. They claim that android is capable of handling this and that any task manger apps are useless.
Read this article http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
Since upgrade to 2.1, I installed Task Killer. It cleaned my memory to have available mem from 80MB to 150MB. However, it got some weired behaviour such as
- X10 got lag for a moment when the screen is just back on.
- when the screen is just back on, Wifi cannot reconnect. I have to disable and enable it again.
So I read to post of Android multitasking and I try it by disable AutoKill but keep the widget on the sceen to see the available mem.
My mem keep available around 70-80MB and X10 performance is increase. No more lag or have to re-enable wifi after screen is back on.
I already remove Taskkiller but installed Watchdog instead. Because there are some bad coding software out there which comsume the battery and CPU even you've exited. In such a case, I have to kill those apps manually.
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X10i Generic Android 2.1, rooted, JIT enable.
You want the memory to be as full as possible!!! This means that those often used tasks are there, waiting. This is not Windows! Stop forcing Android to reload everything from scratch! No wonder things are lagging for you.
I've done many experiment about it.
Here's few conclusion, everything you guys claims are all true.
Android is nix base, fulfilling ram mean more cache, more speed.
However, more process mean more CPU usage in some service.
Some softwares are not properly coded, it, unfortunately, doesn't release the resource when it exits
And it's also true that force killing it, will eat more battery because without properly closing, it will eventually open up again
I suggest, instead of killing a task using ATK.
try this one.
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
It teaches android how to deal with the memory, so it's android who do your dirty job.
Hmm.... I take a look at at autokiller. I think it's better to let Android handle the mem for me. What I'm looking for is an apps that monitor backgound processes/apps that consumes CPU and memory which they should not.
Once identify those apps, I need to kill them individually.
Watchdog paid version suits me well on this purpose. I can put those apps in the blacklist. If they consumes more CPU in the background process, Watchdog will kill them automatically.
I may consider autokiller when I have of low memory warning from my X10 which is currently I have not.
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X10i Generic Android 2.1, rooted, JIT enabled.
I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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Try install these app
1. RamDroid
2. Advance Task Killer- set the killing frequency to 'switch screen off'
3. CpuTuner (setcpu)- i prefer use the 'ondemand' frequency cos i wan to conserve battery.
all free app.. and need rooted phones. it quite user friendly. jus play with it awhile, u'll know how to use.
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I'm using minfreemanager from market with aggressive option, what gives me ~70MB free RAM by the Android's native taskkiller. It's the best choice as of the 2.1 have a lot services running in backround and nobody should harm them.
Trust me, minfreemanager is your weapon against slowness
Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
good observation. ill try one by one. ill start with task manager widget first. don't want to remove my email accounts or my system tuner pro. I have system tuner pro set up to eliminate alot of apps from starting up on boot.
Perfect... Let us know what u find.
I have to say that for my is a complete success !! I am trying one by one all my games (I am even not closing them... just pressing home button) all are working.... no reboot needed.... no crash at all (for now).
I am really happy !
Since I have been playing with the settings in the developer section right from the start and I never experienced any crashes I can not give you any feedback on your finding.
But while using my HTC Tegraphone I discovered what is described in that thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214.
Maybe you check it out and find something that helps you, otherwise I hope you get your crashy Asus resolved soon and someone else can give you additional information.
Good luck
For me, the only crashes i got was due to playing some games while on powersaving mode. The autocontrast or autobrightness (not sure which) that tegra3 forces while on powersaving mode conflicts with a few games.
The screen starts flashing (and the game freezes), and even if you quit the game and re-start, it'll simply crash (force close). You need a reboot.
Istarth said:
Hi u all
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those 3 things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Please feedback !
See U !
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Congratulations....I agree with you. I would be nice if people would try to solve issues themselves before "angrily" blaming ASUS. If they did that, we'd have a much cleaner, more useful forum.
Bob
Istarth said:
Hi u all !
I am one of those that couldn't play any game more than 2 minutes without a crash...
As a last try after months... and before considering a hard reset... I tried something that seems to resolve all my crash problems !
What I did:
- Remove ASUS Task manager widget from launcher
- Remove my normal IMAP mail account
- Remove my work exchange account (Calendar, contacts....)
- Removed Battery Monitor Widget
- Removed System Tuner Pro
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets)
Result (after a reboot):
No crashes at all ! and IU seems way faster (good improvement but not enough for a quad core in my opinion... the IU should fly.... even in economic mode...)
I don't know what of those 3 things did the trick (maybe a mix of them)... anyway no more crashes for me...
Would be nice if more people with crashes (and using any of those things) could try this... Maybe this is the bug so many people have been looking for !
Anyway.... after so many months.... and no way to just be able to use my tablet as it should.... come on ASUS....
Please feedback !
See U !
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1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
Would be nice if people with no crashes at all could show us this kind of use feedback:
- Using ASUS Task manager widget in launcher --> YES / NO
- Using normal IMAP mail account --> YES / NO
- Using exchange account (Calendar, contacts....) --> YES / NO
- Using Battery Monitor Widget --> YES / NO
- Using System Tuner Pro --> YES / NO
- 2 pages totally empty in launcher (the rest with many widgets) --> How many pages are full for u ?? all ??...
People with crashes could also report the same... and of course please try to do the same and let us know if It fix crashes !
TY for all the feedback !
shinzz said:
1. I'm running mostly stock since I bought the device. Yes, not even rooted. Not using any widget either.... And only using 1 page out of 5. Simply using GMAIL app as well with none being sync. Oh, and I manually update all of my apps from Play Store as well...
Since launch, I have installed exactly... 14 apps. Out of those 14, only 3 were added since .21 f/w update (they happen to be games... Dark Meadow, Sonic, Mass Effect). Out of those 14 apps, only 10 are still installed in my tablet (had to delete Google Chrome to increase browser performance).
I rarely play game on my tablet but this is an issue I recently found out as I wanted to play Sonic. Anyways, with this intro out of the way....
Based on my history, when it comes to gaming issue.... I mostly have problems on Tegra 3 optimized games. Games such as Shadowgun, Sonic, Riptide, Dark Meadow........ I actually haven't had any crash/reboot issue while playing Mass Effect.. yet. However, this is only "one" non-tegra 3 graphic intensive non-tegra 3 optimized games. So, it isn't enough of a "data" for me to say.... "hmm, maybe it is just tegra 3 games" yet.
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TY for the info !
This "solution" is to fix a little different problem. Is for people like me with crashes in ALL games randomly. ALL !
Of course we could find some games with real problems with prime. At this moment I have no crashes in any game ! Raptide, Sonic, Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dark Meadow, Gof 2, Shadowgun THD......
TY again !
The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
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The bottom line is a rewrite is in order to free up the bottlenecks in the T3. Something its very wrong when benches are awesome and real life performance is just so so.
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the bottom line is not a blanket fix but rather a "if you have this, then do (or do not do) this." Sorry if you do not agree but my prime works great and yours "just so so" points to you using a software combination that proves unworkable.
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Task killers could easily cause a system crash...
I don't have crashes, but do see Widgets take a long time to refresh occasionally.
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as on every android rom i have ever run i agree widgets are the devil.
Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
Sorry if this doesn't help for my is working incredible good !
Maybe the reason is a combination of SW... (for me was something of those things).
Anyway It is sad that after a lot of months ROMs are not stable enough... even stock one...
UI is also slow... at least slow considering we are speaking about a high end tablet.
Anyway I am happy... now and after various months... I can use my tablet !
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Mine is like that already, and I still get crashes with many apps and games.
Pretty much anything that uses a bit more memory and graphics.
Update: Even Market is crashing now... rebooted last night, did not use tablet at all till checking Market just now.
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Sounds like it's definitely a software issue, try going into settings/apps and clearing market data.
A lot of these sound like typical Android problems that any Android device sees along its lifespan.
OP, this thread was a great idea. I haven't had any crashes but I'm not a big gamer. I would be glad to use your example thread and do trial and error to see what useful data I can contribute to your thread.
Is this only for stock roms, or are custom roms allowed?
well removing the task manager didn't resolve games crashes. I went back to .21(I was previously on new firmware test build) to test this theory out. I'm not going to remove my email accounts. I really love the Asus battery widget but, I will remove it to try out also.
Removing task manager did seem to make things more stable aside from games though. I don't get that stupid message anymore saying task manager has stopped. plus I'm not busy killing stuff on the task manager that pops up. Actually ICS handles the memory manage very well. seems like I have more memory left vs. before when I had task manager up. ill just let android handle the tasks, which it seems to do a great job of.
ill remove battery widget now and see if that helps the gaming issue.
I WILL NOT REMOVE SYSTEM TUNER PRO THOUGH. lol. that app is too valuable and useful. I know that's not the reason. games crashed before I even got it.
All those widgets....
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
I have no idea of the hell you people are talking about,
First of all I on stock and not rooted, second I run all that stock crap(widgets, managers) + I have over 150 apps installed acording to the play store and I never had a crash unless it was the apps foult. From time to time when I check the memory usage with system panel it gets quite full, but I always seem to have atleast 100-200mb free ram left.I somehow don't play games much, but for example GTA runs like a charm for me. The only way I can make something crash is when I start switching apps like crazy(GTA,Skype,Chrome,Skype,Gta,Teamviewer ect.)
But talking off topic, is there anyway to say repair the glass? I have a nasty scrach on it that I just cant get my eyes off when the screen is off
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Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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My prime is not unlocked... I am speaking about ASUS ROMS.
I know there are many people with no problems but at the same time there are many people with problems... Now I am happy because for any reason my ROM is stable... But.... What a nightmare till this moment.... I was getting crashes with ICS all of the time since the first day (prime release in Spain)...
I don't use GPS, Wifi cannot be improved...so I just don't think about it... And I have no browser problems since I use dolphin (the best !) So... The only thing I miss now is a fluid launcher....I am just using 3 pages for widgets, and ui is so slow (more knowing this is a quad core...)... My Sensation moves ui far better... And a are speaking about a sense launcher !
TY all four the info.
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TechSavvy2 said:
Sorry to disappoint, and please don't flame me but....
I'm running all those widgets with emails and doing heavy gaming and I have no crashes at all. I'm only reporting this cuz you asked someone who has no crashing to post their findings.
I run several Tegra 3 games and have actually never had a crash in 2 months I've had it, other than the obvious "Asus Task Manager quit unexpectidly..."
I've also hopped roms quite a bit. Ran Virtuous a lot simply for the full functionality during school. Then for the last two months, CM9 and AOKP are fully optimized for the most part and I've been back and forth.
And why you say no stable ROMS???? Completely incorrect. I can think of at least five.....
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Sorry to hear that... Seems each user (with problems) will need to discover it's own solution.
TY
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As you can see from the title, the phone app "Dialer" launches very slow every time i leave the app for more than 5 minutes. Actually its not just the dialer app but also i noticed that with some apps like messaging, it takes around 3 seconds to launch. It started to annoy me specially because, first i make calls a lot and second because i know that i am using 1.5GHz dual core processor "one of the reasons that made me buy this phone". i have tried the galaxy phones many times specially the s2 and the note and i never see that specially that their processor is technically slower. Does anybody notice that? and is there a way to solve this problem?i don't care about other apps, i just want the dialer to launches quickly like it does with the Galaxy phones and any 1.5GHz dual core processor.
Now i am using ICS rooted with locked bootloader. Still no difference than Gingerbread. still launches the app very slow. Any suggestions, Ideas?? please!
I agree. In GB there was no such issue, but the lag is very noticeable in ICS.
Very Annonying indeed.
I AGREE
there has to be a way to tweak this... some dev has to find it
Factory reset.
And don't use any ram optimizers or apps killer.
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there has to be a way to tweak this... some dev has to find it
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i hope so but there is noting yet as far as i know!
gm007 said:
Factory reset.
And don't use any ram optimizers or apps killer.
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i did factory reset like a thousand times. the problem is not new with ICS , GB too was little slow with the "phone" application except that now ICS, its more noticeable. and BTW i dont use any ram optimizers or apps killer at all,actually never had! and for rooting the only apps i use are SetCPU, Root Explorer and titanium backup!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745668
i checked the stock ICS dialer that was posted in there but i didnt like it.
i then downloaded the EXdialer from the market with the black ICS theme and its FAST.
This lag in Phone drove me crazy so much that I rooted (locked bl) my phone in attempt to improve the performance.
After freezing dozens of apps for more RAM, strangely now my Phone app launches a lot faster... not sure if it is a memory issue or that in the process of reflashing I got a smoother ROM.... somehow.
I also installed the ICS Dialer as mentioned above which is very fast. I am still using the SE Phone app, but keep the ICS Dialer just in case the lag come back.
Hi, my phone's music lags and stutters very frequently when I multitask. For example, if I am playing some music while I am downloading an app from the market or surfing the web, my music tends to start stuttering. It is quite annoying. I am guessing it is due to the lack of RAM but I am not 100% sure. Also, if I multitask, sometimes my entire phone starts to lag too. I have had this issue on Gingerbread, ICS and now Jellybean too. I think I may have had it on Froyo as well. Can anyone help me in solving this problem? Thanks.
What app? Which jb ROM ( just curious).
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I have tried a whole bunch of music players, but my fav is Google Play Music. I was on SlimBean, which was really good, but I cant handle the music lag issue. (Im almost certain that issue has been on every rom ive tried.) Im back to stock eclair now, and the music lag issue is gone. I think the music lag issue is not on google stock updates. But now on stock, the phone itself gets quite laggy. -.- I think Ive also had the music lag issue on GB and Froyo, but less. GB and Froyo were also a lot more laggy on the whole for me compared to ICS and JB. Any ideas about what I can do?
I usually get 150-200 Mb of free ram maybe because of this my phone never lags ......not even once btw I use google music along with beats audio ......I use only ics roms as these are better than froyo
I'd like to know how you get that. Tell me your settings please? And I have also gotten the music lag issue on ICS too. And I also usually use Google play music. I use an apk of course because I don't live in the states.
There are no setting actually I never use the apps which run in the background like google maps ...............I use iczen which has 380 mb of available ram and always use go taskmanager it uses very less ram and is very effective in clearing running apps ...........I usually have 10 apps installed in my phone .....other apps which I require I will do a backup of its apk and install it whenever required and after using I will remove it .....use apex launcher consumes less ram ......I always keep my data connection on and rest I will switch off including vibrations and keysounds.......... Whichever stock apps I dont use I will delete it off using titanium backup.......since we use ics on our old 512 mb ram vibrant these are must to experience no lag
Hmm I'm on jellybean and I have about 390 mb RAM but when I download on Google store the available ram is very low. I have to keep clearing my running apps. I did try go task manager but that thing takes up 30 mb of ram itself so I found it useless. Now I just use the manage apps in settings and I fc any running apps I don't need. I dunno if it'll help but I'm trying right now
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go task manager uses 10 MB. On my phone that's all .........switch off all animations ...I have tried nearly 6 ics roms in all roms I get more than 150 MB available ram! !!!...btw I never use Google maps as I have sygic navigation .......Google maps all the time will be running in background..............u can also use ram booster looks awsome and even this consumes 15 MB of ram that's it ......here is the link .... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.rambooster&hl=en
I used to use that but it took up over 20 mb of RAM for me. GO Task manager used even more, at 30 MB for me lol. I just dont use any task managers. I go manually close apps when I hit Manage Apps > Running. FB is annoying because it takes up about 10 - 15, and you are correct, Google Maps takes up a lot of RAM (for me sometimes over 30 MB, tho normally is around 14 MB) Anyway, I like Google Maps so I just stick with it. Ive tried going into dev options and setting the min background process to 2, and kill when leaving the app, as well as kill app with back button. Im getting 180 MB now, but as soon as I use the browser with music or download apps with music (DL apps with music sucks up wayyy too much RAM and then my phone starts getting choppy), it starts to laaaaagggg. oh well. Funny, this never happened to me on stock lol. stock homescreen lagged like hell, but no lag anywhere else haha. stock is just ugly though, which is why im on JB.
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I used to use that but it took up over 20 mb of RAM for me. GO Task manager used even more, at 30 MB for me lol. I just dont use any task managers. I go manually close apps when I hit Manage Apps > Running. FB is annoying because it takes up about 10 - 15, and you are correct, Google Maps takes up a lot of RAM (for me sometimes over 30 MB, tho normally is around 14 MB) Anyway, I like Google Maps so I just stick with it. Ive tried going into dev options and setting the min background process to 2, and kill when leaving the app, as well as kill app with back button. Im getting 180 MB now, but as soon as I use the browser with music or download apps with music (DL apps with music sucks up wayyy too much RAM and then my phone starts getting choppy), it starts to laaaaagggg. oh well. Funny, this never happened to me on stock lol. stock homescreen lagged like hell, but no lag anywhere else haha. stock is just ugly though, which is why im on JB.
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among all the roms i have used remics ux and iczen uses least ram .......try these ics roms and u dont have any options other than that:laugh:
Is your music on an sd card or on the phone? it used to stutter a lot when I had it on the sd but when I moved it all to the phone it was perfectly fine.
just something that sounds like my issue before.
I was on ICSzen, however, i extremely disliked the new green theme. it was good on battery life, like SlimICS, but ICS roms all lagged, so Im on JB now. Also that Encryption Unsuccessful bug has made me wary of ICS. If I do get on ICS, I will not be able to get to JB (from what I've heard), so that is kind of an issue for me. I'm on SlimBean v2.1 right now with Semaphore v2.0.7sv, and my phone runs like the wind. RAM is better, thanks to the kernel and with SlimBean's BigMem configuration. The music lag issue is a bit better, although I haven't tried anything too crazy yet LOL. Gonna use for a while and see.
I'm running B 0.8.4 Rom by BlaY0 on my HTC Legend for so long.
It is a very good Rom with no problem at all.
I want to change it to Android 4 ! but there are plenty of them here, each of them has some issues,
Could you please introduce the best STABLE Rom which its Android version is 4 or upper for HTC Legend?
Thank you in advance
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
What you probably should look at is, what base do those "other roms" use, I think you will find more often than not they are based on zeubea's roms anyway, with some tweaks here and there. The op really should tell you in the thread so just have a read...
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What applications can I remove without having any problems? the gps does not work. do you know help me?
thanks
leekohlbradley said:
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
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GPS problems:
You need to edit /system/etc/gps.conf
Use a root explorer like Root Browser to go to that file, and open with RB text editor. Or better yet, copy it to your computer and edit it there.
Change the file so it contains the information found here http://www.modaco.com/topic/331446-mod-all-roms-gps-fix/
Remove the # from the NTP_SERVER closest to where you live. If you want to add more servers you can look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200089
Removing apps:
If you have Link2SD (and you should!!!) you can try freezing stuff for a few days and then if nothing goes wrong, delete it.
As for what to delete, certainly the stock mail program, the CM file browser (USELESS), music app... I sorted by size and deleted anything that didn't sound useful / critical. I also deleted the AOSP keyboard. It's good but doesn't have Chinese which is a must for me. I just installed another keyboard from Play. If you delete those few things your system space will free up a bit and be more than enough to give it some breathing room. I'm not sure you need more than 20-30 MB free (or any free at all, I'm kinda talking out my ass a bit haha). But it seems to stand to reason that system apps need room to store data, cache, etc., and if they don't things will get choked up real quick.
What does matter is freezing useless apps and utilities that load automatically and sit in RAM. Legend RAM is very limited and while it's true that unused RAM is wasted RAM and that task killers are worse than useless, having stuff load automatically and keep themselves in RAM is just taking up space for useful apps that will use that RAM, without question.
That said anyone with a better understanding is more than welcome to jump in!
Don't talk to me about gps my threads on the topic are enough. Basically gps either works or it doesn't, if it doesn't your out of luck my friend!
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