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Hi, XDA Folks !
nice to meet you... I am new here and this will be my 1st posting. This forum really looks cool...
I have searched for the thematic "skin" but nothing found in the threads. So I let my request come out.
Anybody an idea where to get a "Dell Streak" Skin ? - I am just in re-design of a multi-functional website (blog, media player/web tv (stream), html5-PDF-Reader, twitter-tweets, photo slides, eShop etc. ...), which shall be re-designed for compatibility visited by mobile devices (especially with Android OS) etc. ...
So the idea is, as I did a 1st test successfully with the HTC skin (thank's to Sickbox for the "HTC Droid Eris AVD Skin") to check out how all looks on a bigger screen as the Dell Streak has. If you read PDFs (html5) of Scribd on HTC it looks horrible. Not very practicable... maybe I need a specific "plugin" to swap a PDF format into a "pure text" format for the smaller screens of smart phones.
Anyhow, the new bigger screen size (5 inch, WVGA (800x480)) looks very interesting, as it might be used as an eBook reader, Video player, same good for web browsing with community ability (Facebook, Myspace)), a mix of mini PC, smart phone, iPad and Kindle, maybe (In Germany we say: "The egg giving whool milk pig" (eier-legende Wollmilch-Sau).
People who do not need it for heavily telephoning on the road, the bigger size is OK, I would say. Much better for SMS writing than the tiny key buttons like on a Motorola or for heavy business users the BlackBerry (which now is blocked in Saudi Arabia, same will be banned by Indian Government as just announced, so it looks so fare RIM does not decrypte the email traffic).
I'd like to test the Dell Streak 1st via Android SDK as it is too expen...sive, yet to buy(maybe Dell might sponsor me . I would do all of usability test what should be done, Mr. Dell - even in very rough conditions (and not in a laboratory).
Seriously: This tablet PC (so I would call it) now is offered for German market since 5th August. But !!!! - If you calculate the whole price you fall off the chair, total costs with some extras (e.g. car set, bag, etc. ...) round about 900 EUR. Oh, thank's dell you reduce it with 29 EUR free shipping. (! A joke !). Definitely too expensive... for 900 EUR you get something much better. I am very happy with my DELL Studio 15 laptop I use since one year. It costed only 900 EUR.
In UK via O2 ( www . o2.co.uk/dellstreak ) it seems little bit cheaper with a
2 years contract (monthly 41.88 EUR/35 GBP). But !! - Again a big But ! - After Amazon just prized down its Kindle to 140 EUR (189 US$) and you same can get a HTC Android smart phone cost free with a flat rate contract for 30 EUR per month (European provider 1&1) I think, Dell has to re-think about its huge prizing... I would pay maximum something between 350-450 EUR (inclusive shipping free) for a Dell Streak contract free... that would be OK.
Anybody knows about the source for downloading the skin? I use Eclipse and Android SDK on a Windows Vista mashine. Yeah, yeah... don't beat me ! - I am not a developer, just a user mainly in focus for "media producation" and compatibility of web content. (Rec.: As Dev of course I would use Linux (which I use for a RAID system)
Would thank you for a tip or even a zip file with the skin . So fare... TC/Take it easy. SM2010.
Welcome to the Streak Family my friend
tks lufc for the warm welcome... so I see: you are already a proud Dell Streak owner, hm ? - Or do you have it on your wish list like me ? - How is it in UK with that geeky man's toy ? - You have a button posted "SIM FREE/Unlocked". What does that mean ? (Sorry for my 1000 questions, I am just curious - job sickness.) Can you only buy the Streak with O2 contract on Green Island? So fare I am informed correctly O2 introduced Dell Strike in UK... I really would love to get one (but not for 900 Euros).
Happy day ! - SM2010.
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P.S.: When can I post "external links". I already wanted as I am used as cultural journalist to name my sources. But when I click on post I get the answer that I am not allowed to do so. Is it just because I am "newbee" here ?
SenseMaker2010 said:
tks lufc for the warm welcome... so I see: you are already a proud Dell Streak owner, hm ? - Or do you have it on your wish list like me ? - How is it in UK with that geeky man's toy ? - You have a button posted "SIM FREE/Unlocked". What does that mean ? (Sorry for my 1000 questions, I am just curious - job sickness.) Can you only buy the Streak with O2 contract on Green Island? So fare I am informed correctly O2 introduced Dell Strike in UK... I really would love to get one (but not for 900 Euros).
Happy day ! - SM2010.
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P.S.: When can I post "external links". I already wanted as I am used as cultural journalist to name my sources. But when I click on post I get the answer that I am not allowed to do so. Is it just because I am "newbee" here ?
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You theoretically should be able to get the streak for around 500 euros.
However I'm not sure if you have any referals websites like we have?
www.quidco.com give 10% off the order with Dell, therefore it becomes £400 then convert that to Euros....about 83p per Euro?
Hell, send the cash to me and I'll order it and send it over to you!
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You theoretically should be able to get the streak for around 500 euros. However I'm not sure if you have any referals websites like we have?
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German market is covered exclusively by DELL on its own (via Dell . de website). We have no (virtual) retailers here. For the Streak Dell deals with MediaMarkt which is one of the biggest multiple shops for Electronics (in any form) over all the country. Very unusual Dell does this. As I am already customer at DELL, hereby I get nearby weekly special price offers "voucher coded" directly, regular its 5% price reduction.
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quidco . com give 10% off the order with Dell, therefore it becomes £400 then convert that to Euros....about 83p per Euro? Hell, send the cash to me and I'll order it and send it over to you!
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OK, got it, round about 482 EUR. Will check out Quidco. That sounds much better than 900 EUR (which is all inclusive truthfully to say.) - The basic price (Dell Strike Red or Carbone) for home office user in Germany is: 628 EUR (inclusive shipping which is charged at 29 EUR).
Many thank's for your offer, Amdathlonuk. 1st I like to check out the screen (see my 1st posting in this thread).
Still have the hope that anywhere in the world a developer created the Dell Streak skin for Android SDK.
P.S.: "Who searches will find". Reffering the "MediaMarkt" distribution I found following link: bit.ly/c402mL - It a Dell Strike as unlocked version for 599 EUR same as on DELL's own website. Aha...
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P.S.: "Who searches will find". Reffering the "MediaMarkt" distribution I found following link: bit.ly/c402mL - It a Dell Strike as unlocked version for 599 EUR same as on DELL's own website. Aha...
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there was a post about it
there's even a 19% discount through them if you get it this week...
EDIT that should read 19% discount Offer ends tomorrow at Media Markt!
11th TOMORROW>>>>> so if you want one cheap get yerself there in the morning !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748634
so 485.19 Eur according to my reckoning... are you still sitting there reading this ?
Hi
I have account on XDA for about 4 years, but I'm kind of new here (because it's my first post :>), so Hello everybody.
I'm willing to buy this fancy lumia 800 and while browsing the web and searching some informations about it I noticed an article about Nokia and EA deal.
So my question is if anybody knows if these free games are released by now or when are they going to release these games?
It is not the must to have this phone, but I'm just curious about it?
Sorry for my bad Englisch and things, but it's not my native :].
Best regards for you.
PS: I have played with Lumia in lokal store and audio quality with my bose IE was enough good for me.
As far as I know, there were no 'free' games announce. They simply announced that a number of EA games would be exclusively available to Nokia customers first, and that's about it. I assume that means they will continue to cost something, but that only Nokia customers will have access to them for some time.
Although if they are free that would be awesome.
As for dates, nothing was ever announced, but people anticipate sometime in 2012. I assume that they would probably be announced to release alongside one of Nokia's phone launches sometime this year. Maybe we'll hear more at MWC.
I found some news with quotation from EA, and it says that games will be for free.
As example:
Uh, I'm not able to post links...
But I don't think that these games are going to be exclusive only to the nokia phones.
Maybe they are going to sell them in marketplace and only nokia users will have it without paying and with some extras. That's the way I interpret what they said.
Here you have this quotation from EA:
[W]e’ll be designing our games for an awe-inspiring experience on Windows Phone for Nokia. That’s the best games for free plus exclusive content for Nokia users. It’s a big win for Nokia’s consumers worldwide”
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Today I have read an article that all currently running WP7 Smartphones will NOT receive an Update to WP8.
Instead they will get an Update to WP 7.8.
I am sooooo happy that we have finally running HSPL for our devices, so our talented devs will hopefully be able to make coustom roms WITH WP8 !!
Lets hope the best
The article is in german, if you understand that language check it out
http://www.chip.de/news/Windows-Phone-8-Das-kann-das-neue-Microsoft-OS_56171609.html
I don't think DFT or others can do something about this :
The main reason WP8 isn't going to current devices is that most of the new kernel will be built for multi core processors ...
I don't think this is something you or me or DFT could change ...
Of course I want to be wrong xD
Btw I am pretty satisfied with the 7.8 solution.
A nice WP7.8 custom ROM would be enough for me if we'll still be able to be part of the system.
The important question is about what features will be included in the 7.8 update other than the GUI change.
Yeah, we're screwed. I'm selling my Titan while I still can, nobody would want one a few months from now.
I will probably buy a freakin' iPhone because it holds its price pretty well and stick with it until WP8 phones become available. That is if I won't become an Apple guy in the mean time...
The question still remains.... Is 7.8 going to be the last update, and how long will it take devs stop making things and switch to native code???
Why develop apps for a old system? I know wp7x apps will run on w8, but w8 will have all new open api.
i heard so many times that there would never be a way to get wp7 on my hd2....... perhaps history will repeat itself
I can deal with the 7.8 solution. I just think its a bit awkward that they would market the hell out of the Lumia 900 (and rightfully so) knowing that a few months later they are going to announce that it is not upgradeable to 8. However, Microsoft had to do what they had to do and seeing the big picture, I think it is going to be even more phenomenal. What concerns me is that I wonder if HTC is going to even bother upgrading the Titan (which I currently own) and Titan II seeing that they really have no enthusiasm for the platform. And what surprises me is that they are on board with the initial fleet of WP8 phones. I think I may switch over to Nokia next time around. You can tell how wonderfully they treat their customers and they continuously get new stuff. We shall see.
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What concerns me is that I wonder if HTC is going to even bother upgrading the Titan (which I currently own) and Titan II seeing that they really have no enthusiasm for the platform. ... I think I may switch over to Nokia next time around.
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I think the 7.8 update (if that's what you mean) is coming directly from MS so all current 7.5 handsets will be able to get it.
I'm almost 100% sure my WP8 will be from Nokia. I may even get a Lumia now, just because they look so cool & the apps are top notch. (hopefully prices on ebay will plummet after this announcement) Right now I've got a Titan II.
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Yeah, we're screwed. I'm selling my Titan while I still can, nobody would want one a few months from now.
I will probably buy a freakin' iPhone because it holds its price pretty well and stick with it until WP8 phones become available. That is if I won't become an Apple guy in the mean time...
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The question still remains.... Is 7.8 going to be the last update, and how long will it take devs stop making things and switch to native code???
Why develop apps for a old system? I know wp7x apps will run on w8, but w8 will have all new open api.
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Guys don't talk like those trolls are WPCentral. We are on XDA-DEVELOPERS.
As an developer I would want to target mass market. When WP8 launches, even if with excellent traction what will be one's target market? 4 million? 5 million? in first 6 months?
WP7.x has 10 million+ strong.
WP7.x apps WILL run on WP8.
So I will be making apps for 15million target audience i.e. make an app for WP7.x and serve and earn more.
Only certain games that need multi-cores might be native coded but then we don't have that hardware, so MSFT hasn't screwed us.
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Guys don't talk like those trolls are WPCentral. We are on XDA-DEVELOPERS.
As an developer I would want to target mass market. When WP8 launches, even if with excellent traction what will be one's target market? 4 million? 5 million? in first 6 months?
WP7.x has 10 million+ strong.
WP7.x apps WILL run on WP8.
So I will be making apps for 15million target audience i.e. make an app for WP7.x and serve and earn more.
Only certain games that need multi-cores might be native coded but then we don't have that hardware, so MSFT hasn't screwed us.
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I agree with what you say and I'm sorry to act like a troll but I'm angry because:
- WP7 lacks some important functionality which I hoped to get with the WP8 upgrade (VOIP integration, location background tasks, universal search, HTML5/CSS3 compatible browser, etc.)
- I wanted to keep my Titan for at least 1 year and now I have to sell it (while it still holds some value)
- if I knew the Titan would not get the update I wouldn't have bought it (I was naive, so my fault here)
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I agree with what you say and I'm sorry to act like a troll but I'm angry because:
- WP7 lacks some important functionality which I hoped to get with the WP8 upgrade (VOIP integration, location background tasks, universal search, HTML5/CSS3 compatible browser, etc.)
- I wanted to keep my Titan for at least 1 year and now I have to sell it (while it still holds some value)
- if I knew the Titan would not get the update I wouldn't have bought it (I was naive, so my fault here)
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Since you are on XDA I am presuming you know that the dev community will probably port in custom ROMs with WP7.8 before even officials are rolled out! Yesterday's "dev summit" means nothing to the end user. No end user features are released officially. We've gotta wait for the customer focused annoucements. Surely WP7.8 won't be a start screen only update. It will plug in most of the non-hardware dependant gaps.
And - if MSFT doesnt, XDA will.
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Since you are on XDA I am presuming you know that the dev community will probably port in custom ROMs with WP7.8 before even officials are rolled out! Yesterday's "dev summit" means nothing to the end user. No end user features are released officially. We've gotta wait for the customer focused annoucements. Surely WP7.8 won't be a start screen only update. It will plug in most of the non-hardware dependant gaps.
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I'm aware, of course
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And - if MSFT doesnt, XDA will.
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Yes, but to what extent? Supposing that current devices were used for WP8 testing, there is hope for test build leaks. If not, the kernel/driver related gaps will almost certainly never be filled. Very difficult challenge to overcome and few developers will be interested to do it - especially true for the Titan which is far from being a popular device...
The way I am looking at this scenario is that any device was to be supported for 2 years.
I got my Titan Nov 2011 (launch was Oct 2011?)
So ideally, MSFT should support my titan till April 2013. The so called WP7.8 will add features, may be not high tech, most advanced features, but surely those that will make my Nov 2011 Titan much better than what I purchased. This WP7.8 won't actually hit our phones till Nov-Dec 2012, if that's when WP8 phones are to be in the wild.
Surely that refresh can last my phone for next 6 months. MSFT has repeatedly said they will be giving 2 major updates. Only the Lumia 900 and HTC Titan2 owners will see just one WP7.8, but all of us have seen Mango and now WP7.8
And what says, that we won't have a Tango-like minor update after WP7.8?
The fact that 7.5 is being pushed to 7.8 and not 8.0 shows that its two iterations lower than 8.0 (one being kernel change, second being ?) and THREE iterations better than 7.5. Surely a new start screen isn't worth making it 7.8. It could easily have been 7.6 unless ofcourse MSFT devs like fooling us with numbers (I don't doubt it! )
Also, MSFT will support us with apps for that period too. Devs won't make apps for an OS with zero user base. They will want it to start off with 10 million of us first. At least till June-July 2013, I don't see lots of WP8 exclusive apps that are not hardware dependant. Ofcourse there will be a huge influx of apps come this Christmas that will be exclusive to WP8 to show off its hardware capapbilities.
All in all, it is an excellent thing if you want WP to succeed and want to benefit from the whole "ecosystem" experience unmatched by any other OS! I am loving my phone and won't buy a WP8 till next summer. I am in love with my Titan and the custom ROMs have just started... possibilites are endless. We might be looking at a new HTC HD2
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Here found this:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/06/20/new-nokia-apps-zynga-games-to-make-your-lumia-even-better/
Part that is of our interest -
"Elsewhere, you may have read about the new Windows Phone 8. How does this affect your Lumia? Well, you are not being left out. All Lumia smartphones will be getting an update to give you some of the features of Windows Phone 8, including the new Start screen, as well as a pattern of ongoing updates going forward."
When the summit was summarised, it was told that we will get continuing support from OEMs. I am inclined to believe that OEMs will dish out a range of updates for another 12-15 months or so for WP7 to bring it as close as possible to WP8. When WP8.5 is released, WP7 will truely be dead, which is OK.
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Also, MSFT will support us with apps for that period too. Devs won't make apps for an OS with zero user base. They will want it to start off with 10 million of us first. At least till June-July 2013, I don't see lots of WP8 exclusive apps that are not hardware dependant. Ofcourse there will be a huge influx of apps come this Christmas that will be exclusive to WP8 to show off its hardware capapbilities
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it's really clear to me with my ics xoom tablet that gingerbread has not been abandoned. there are still few apps in the google play store that only work on ics or honeycomb. i'm pretty sure the same will apply for wp7.5/8 - as has been said before. why limit yourself to the people with one system when most apps will work on both. the only time this will change is if wp8 is a massive runaway success, which i'd be equally happy about
As far as markets go, being able to use native code means an easy port of games and apps to and from Android and iOS. If you could serve 3 markets with your app or just 1, which would you choose? WP8 means the end of apps for WP7 devices.
Microsoft could have chosen to port the kernel to our devices. People are like "well, the kernel needs multicore". Bull****. Windows 8 will run on a Pentium 4. You telling me they can get their desktop OS to run on 6-8 year old hardware but mobile can't run on less than a year old? The kernel doesn't matter any goddamn way. They could choose to port native support to our device. Apple did it with 68k to PPC and PPC to Intel, and with considerably less money and human resources. Embedded NT already runs on WP7 chipsets.
Microsoft is telling too many partners too many different things. First they say they are changing the OS to run on lower spec hardware, now they are saying the higher-end hardware can't run the next OS.
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As far as markets go, being able to use native code means an easy port of games and apps to and from Android and iOS. If you could serve 3 markets with your app or just 1, which would you choose? WP8 means the end of apps for WP7 devices.
Microsoft could have chosen to port the kernel to our devices. People are like "well, the kernel needs multicore". Bull****. Windows 8 will run on a Pentium 4. You telling me they can get their desktop OS to run on 6-8 year old hardware but mobile can't run on less than a year old? The kernel doesn't matter any goddamn way. They could choose to port native support to our device. Apple did it with 68k to PPC and PPC to Intel, and with considerably less money and human resources. Embedded NT already runs on WP7 chipsets.
Microsoft is telling too many partners too many different things. First they say they are changing the OS to run on lower spec hardware, now they are saying the higher-end hardware can't run the next OS.
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I don't think it is about hardware at all and MSFT never suggested so either. What they've said is the whole WP8 which can be scaled up and down is a big task and effort. From update point of view, packaging this whole new kernel update via Zune to us also means, that the noob on the other hand (not you and me) needs to know what to do. To wipe devices, to get the new drivers on, the new ROM and radio - not a normal update. I think MSFT could have spent a few months trying and testing things so that current gen phones can get this new kernel with "super update". But frankly, only a few thousand of us out of the suspected 12 million are tech-savvy for such an update. The bricks, the admin to support bricks would be an endless affair.
Also, OEMs. Convincing them to make new drivers to update current hardware would mean they can't sell more phones. OEMs want to sell phones. They want money, they will never choose update v/s new hardware. OEMs would also have to have support channels open for such bricks etc - again not good enough reason to put that effort on negligible number of users of this platform.
Above all, what I think the real, REAL reason is: Hardware. Current hardware although not outdate by any means isn't good enough to "exploit" WP8 kernel that powers a PC. The choice was:
Should we have a PC software run by mediocre hardware or should we launch it with awesome hardware that will exploit the new kernel? From business point of view, new hardware, new software = more attention grabbing.
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Then by your logic, Microsoft should never release anything but bug fixes. In fact, the opposite is happening. Microsoft is planning on bypassing vendors and carriers starting with Windows 8. As far as hardware goes, no ATT rep is going to push Windows Phone now, and it is already well-known that has been a problem as it is.
In fact, it would behoove vendors if Microsoft supported current generation phones because they could work on streamlining current production instead of spending the money on new designs. Do you think the most valuable company in the world (Apple) doesn't understand this? The 3GS will run iOS 6! Other smartphone platforms are basically saying if you want your hardware supported the life if your contract, you need to buy an iPhone...
Also, just an FYI, windows phones are all the same. They all use 100% identical chipsets and have almost no custom hardware. The only difference they have is in the camera and those are high-level drivers. Microsoft was notoriously strict with their hardware spec. Hardware partners did not write any drivers, the same way PC vendors do not write any drivers. It is all a partnership between MS and chipset manufacturers.
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I recieved an e.mail from Microsoft stating my titan will be able to recieve the window 8 update. What's that about?.
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I recieved an e.mail from Microsoft stating my titan will be able to recieve the window 8 update. What's that about?.
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According to the site where I got that info, all currently devices which run WP7 wont get the update, so we should wait and see...
If you like to chat - it's a perfect place for you!
Respect each other and have a lot of fun :laugh:
OK, i'll be the first in this thread
i wonder if WP 8 will be installable on current lumia 1st gen.
i read some thread who's talkin about but well if hardware are missing for WP 8 feature we can run WP 8 without using those feature... like NFC and others
So why it can't really be possible, due to bootloader restriction ? kernel ?
I'm not programmer that's why my question seems like "newbie"
I'm forgine me about my english ..
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OK, i'll be the first in this thread
i wonder if WP 8 will be installable on current lumia 1st gen.
i read some thread who's talkin about but well if hardware are missing for WP 8 feature we can run WP 8 without using those feature... like NFC and others
So why it can't really be possible, due to bootloader restriction ? kernel ?
I'm not programmer that's why my question seems like "newbie"
I'm forgine me about my english ..
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First: I'm not an IT expert so there might be some mistakes in the following Explanation.
The first thing we have to consider is the architecture. As you may know there are different processors out there. There are the "old-fashioned" computer x84 (32bit) processors and the now well spread 64bit processors. For mobiles there are ARM processors. When a program is compiled it gets translated into certain codes that are executed by the processor (and other hardware like the graphics processor). So every OS has to be programmed, optimized and tested on a range of processor types. There are even differences in different generations of these processors with different capabilities. I don't really think that matters to the WP8 portability, as far as I know only the performance would be different.
However WP8 also has a different kernel. Windows Phone 7 is based on WinCE and Windows Phone 8 will have the same "foundation" as the Windows 8 products. This presents us with the first problem. Every phone has "custom" peripherals by the OEM: the camera, the speakers and microphone, WLAN chips, BT hardware, etc.. This hardware is different for every device series. A HTC Mozart has a different camera than a HTC Titan, and our Lumias have even another version ( I think you get the point). The Windows Phone operating system doesn't really know how to access all the variations of different peripherals directly. A HTC camera is controlled in a different way than a Lumia camera. This is why the OEMs (Nokia, HTC, Samsung, etc.) have to write drivers and integrate them into their phone software. A driver provides a way for the System to communicate with the hardware. The driver defines a fixed set of functions. For a camera some of the functions could be: "Give me your current status", "What do you currently see", "Set the ISO value to X". So Windows Phone doesn't know how to do the operations directly on the hardware, instead it knows that there is a driver that has the functions to do the desired task. The phone communicates through the driver with the hardware. The way of communication is like a predefined contract and every manufacturer has to implement this contract. However Windows Phone 8 changes some things how drivers are handled (the contract has changed) so the OEMs would have to rewrite their drivers. This is tied to lots of work, ressources, time and money.
(At this point you might ask why the HD2 can run Windows Phone 7. This is because the HD2 hardware is very very similar to the HD7 hardware. So the HD2 can use drivers of the HD7. Also Windows Mobile is based on WinCE as well.)
Another thing is that Windows Phone 8 is speculated to bring a number of security related improvements. These come with restrictions as well. It is possible that some hardware is required to encrypt and decrypt certain stuff. (Now a very speculative part) Windows Phone 8 might also require UEFI. When you turn on your PC the OS has to be loaded somehow. This is most commonly done by the BIOS. The BIOS is saved on a chip on your motherboard and this chip is (more or less) a read only memory [when you open your computer you might see a chip with a shiny PHOENIX or AWARD sticker on it]. It is not always easy to update the BIOS and manipulating it can cause your PC to become unbootable. UEFI is a successor to the BIOS. It (UEFI) implements a wide array of features. For instance it can check signatures and verify the OS integrity to see if someone has manipulated the OS.
These are just my two cents, you can find more (possible) reasons by digging through the various WP7&8 sections here on XDA. Also feel free to ask if something is unclear. It's hard to tell the hardware related reasons that prevent porting because I didn't stumble upon a "Windows Phone 8 hardware requirements"-sheet yet. But I guess security related hardware is the main thing that prevents WP8 from being ported to current generation hardware. On the bootloader/BIOS/UEFI thing, a person with more knowledge about Emmbeded Systems could explain more I guess.
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ok hello im really angry about lumia 800 and it's unlock possibilities (dev unl only) i got mine since last year ,how long
should we wait for someone to talk about that problem , heath ,jax and others twitter pages seems to lack of that info
so what the heck? why nobody talk about it and solve our problem ? tell me
cdbase said:
ok hello im really angry about lumia 800 and it's unlock possibilities (dev unl only) i got mine since last year ,how long
should we wait for someone to talk about that problem , heath ,jax and others twitter pages seems to lack of that info
so what the heck? why nobody talk about it and solve our problem ? tell me
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posts like that are really gonna motivate them in to working on the lumia 800 :laugh:
I guess its the end of lumia 800, its been 6 months for my 800 and i could just carry on with dev unlock..
And trying to run hombrews which dont need root, not that im sad with the phone, but looking at most other WP phones open to other greater ROMs get me hyped.
Root is something a high end phone like this needs!!
And im sure WP8 cant be ported to the 800, WP7.8 is enough, since there is a lot of changes that we see over the web, including a new lockscreen for WP8 and not wp 7.8.
well right now dllimport project has given us yet another app BluePhoto Beta done by navisluni, so i dont know if any of the devs would like to sit and have a Nth thought of an unlock for 800.
The main problme is the lumia has fallen in hands of youngsters since its a NOKIA phone, young people tend to buy this phone and they have knowledge enough to say that a root is needed to customize this OS a bit, or else its a beauty!
Till now only 710 is the great one, and 800,900 and 610 are left behind.
I just hope there is a universal way to root the device types, because checking some stuff over the web, WP7.8 doesnt implement secure boot in any way...so we still have a free open OS, but to its current restrictions.
All the best to anyone trying for an unlock in anyway..
Lumia 920
See this,
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Greets,
I don''t know where to post this but has any of you been having issues downloading apps from the marketplace?
I noticed that I cannot download any application that are more than 15mb - once it reaches 50% it says "Attention required. Tap Here.". I can download large podcasts just fine but its another story for apps.
Also, I noticed that you can login using a single Windows Live account on two phones (I have a Dell Venue Pro and a Nokia Lumia 800), could this be interfering with the downloads? (BTW I'm trying to download games that are already installed on my Dell to my Lumia - then again I was able to install the apps that have a relatively small file size).
KimWinter said:
I don''t know where to post this but has any of you been having issues downloading apps from the marketplace?
I noticed that I cannot download any application that are more than 15mb - once it reaches 50% it says "Attention required. Tap Here.". I can download large podcasts just fine but its another story for apps.
Also, I noticed that you can login using a single Windows Live account on two phones (I have a Dell Venue Pro and a Nokia Lumia 800), could this be interfering with the downloads? (BTW I'm trying to download games that are already installed on my Dell to my Lumia - then again I was able to install the apps that have a relatively small file size).
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try the free zune more personal space micro sim, like personal space you have to fill your stuff already, sorry for my English.
lumia noise
Hi
I got a new lumia 800 about a week ago and I've noticed it makes interference sounds (the same noise one would hear coming from a radio speaker while a mobile getting a call or msg near by) while speaking on the phone or even when just browsing or playing with it. Also when i'm recieving a call or email. It seems strange to me as my old phone never made these sounds. Has anyone experienced this on their lumia?
I wonder if there is something wrong with mine.
lumia 800 case
Hello ! today i bought a phone case with 15$ , it has a few scratches but I'm undecided between paint it yellow or leave it like that
Does exist sim unlocking method?
Thx for reply.
Anyone has a news about change bootloader from Dload to Qualcoom?
For the 800 or 710?
710 guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26697553&postcount=117
Anybody have any experience replacing the glass of the Lumia 710? I just bought my phone off eBay for $100, and although the seller said it was in "like new condition", the screen is pretty scratched up. Normally I'd complain and return it, but I think $100 is still a pretty good deal. I was thinking of buying a new screen + digitizer for like $25, but I'm a little worried about removing mine. Specifically about the part where you have to heat up the LCD screen to remove it from the glass because it's stuck with double-sided tape.
Otherwise, the phone is still in warranty, so would Nokia replace the glass under warranty? or at least at a discounted price from the out of warranty price?
Unlocked my 710.
What roms would you guys recommend? I tried rataplan, but there's no 4g, which I want..
RainbowMod rom . for 710 .:victory:
I want to buy a Nokia charger because I'm currently using a Samsung charger(galaxySL). Is AC-10E good? I'm really confused about which charger should I buy.
Thank !
nonblk said:
Hello ! today i bought a phone case with 15$ , it has a few scratches but I'm undecided between paint it yellow or leave it like that
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this blue one is a case? Yellow would be like L920 but I'm of a different opinion.
Why wear case and make phone fatter, enjoy as he is without it.
Producer of the phone wasn't thinking what case will match but how to make the phone tough enough to not using cases
Wow
I think I just found the most desolate place on the whole board!
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
pour:elle said:
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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D/L the app AIDA 64 to get an even better idea of what the phone actually has inside.
It may lack some components that would make the phone less desirable to own.
Myself, I wouldn't spend any money on it at all. However, if you like to collect items/one-offs such as this,start out with an offer of 1/4 of retail & go from there....
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KOLIOSIS said:
D/L the app AIDA 64 to get an even better idea of what the phone actually has inside.
It may lack some components that would make the phone less desirable to own.
Myself, I wouldn't spend any money on it at all. However, if you like to collect items/one-offs such as this,start out with an offer of 1/4 of retail & go from there....
Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
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I thank you for the quick answer ! according to you would it be a software or hardware limitation, and for the price, if you were in my place, what would be the maximum price you would pay for this piece?
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I thank you for the quick answer ! according to you would it be a software or hardware limitation, and for the price, if you were in my place, what would be the maximum price you would pay for this piece?
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I couldn't guess a price until after I was assured the phone has the same functionality as the one available to the general public.
If it's a store demo, more than likely the functionality is crippled.
Even with full functionality, I wouldn't offer any more than 25% of whatever retailers are selling it for in your area.....
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KOLIOSIS said:
I couldn't guess a price until after I was assured the phone has the same functionality as the one available to the general public.
If it's a store demo, more than likely the functionality is crippled.
Even with full functionality, I wouldn't offer any more than 25% of whatever retailers are selling it for in your area.....
Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
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in my country it has not yet been launched, can you tell me how much it is currently in store? the only thing that makes me hesitate is the lack of slot memory card, because until proven otherwise, the phone has only 8 can be 16 GB of memory, according to the photos, meanwhile to have it in hand and to try the application you have suggested to me (AIDA 64)
pour:elle said:
in my country it has not yet been launched, can you tell me how much it is currently in store? the only thing that makes me hesitate is the lack of slot memory card, because until proven otherwise, the phone has only 8 can be 16 GB of memory, according to the photos, meanwhile to have it in hand and to try the application you have suggested to me (AIDA 64)
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The phone is a fake,only 2G RAM (typically displayed in GB,not with a single letter),that shoulda been a red flag right there,run,don't walk,from this scam................
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The phone is a fake,only 2G RAM (typically displayed in GB,not with a single letter),that shoulda been a red flag right there,run,don't walk,from this scam................
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yet aesthetically it is identical to the model sold, see the gallery? even the label on the box is authentic!
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yet aesthetically it is identical to the model sold, see the gallery? even the label on the box is authentic!
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If you're feeling froggy,jump,don't let me stop ya........
If ya got more money to burn,by all means,I know of a Nigerian Prince who needs a co-signer for funds in the Bank Of Antartica.................................
Enjoy your whatever that is,it certainly ain't an Oppo Find X in any regard & have a nice life...... Peace. :good:
KOLIOSIS said:
If you're feeling froggy,jump,don't let me stop ya........
If ya got more money to burn,by all means,I know of a Nigerian Prince who needs a co-signer for funds in the Bank Of Antartica.................................
Enjoy your whatever that is,it certainly ain't an Oppo Find X in any regard & have a nice life...... Peace. :good:
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I think it's the lite version, which has been used as development support, because if you noticed in the photos "about the phone", the version of the rom is dated February 5, 2018
before you leave, let me ask you if it is possible to send me in private the captures similar to those of photos from your phone, about phone, cpu z info, and other photos that define the differences
thank you very much and have a good day
pour:elle said:
I think it's the lite version, which has been used as development support, because if you noticed in the photos "about the phone", the version of the rom is dated February 5, 2018
before you leave, let me ask you if it is possible to send me in private the captures similar to those of photos from your phone, about phone, cpu z info, and other photos that define the differences
thank you very much and have a good day
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All of that information is available on-line/videos/articles/pictures/OPPO'S WEBSITE.
Again,you seem sold on the phone,by all means,it's your money.....
pour:elle said:
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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other reviews please ?
I'll add this & I'm done:
At minimum, you're dealing with someone who sells counterfeit/knockoff phones.
But, if you're convinced this is a prototype , it's likely been stolen,no way in Hell Oppo would approve..... discussion of buying such a phone in the forums is certainly frowned upon by the Admin/Staff here @ XDA......
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Accept the phone only if the seller will give it to you for nothing along with further compensating you in the form of hard cash; for wasting your time. Seriously, purchase only if you feel you must prove a sucker is born every minute.
What's wrong with this guy
Use logical reasoning and common sense my friend
hello guys, do not get upset, it's not my fault if I was lucky to find a piece of the flagship for almost nothing, the seller gave me the monster yesterday against a payment equivalent to $ 45, so I had the time to explore it and the results will surprise you even more than the price that it cost me I leave you with the pictures !
since this is the fifteenth answer of the thread, I pay tribute to VC15