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Hi all
Firstly, let me just say I love the Hero.
Although I really can't believe I need to keep my phone switched on for the alarm to work? Even my Nokia banana phone had a blummin' alarm that worked when the phone was off! It seems that the Hero needs to be powered on or the alarm won't sound.
Am I missing something?
This feature was very common, pre-smartphone, but I think you'll find the vast majority of what we now call smartphones (WinMo-based, iPhone, Android etc) don't actually support this any more as they are really little computers with phone functionality. It also wasn't that long ago when my phones battery used to last 10+ days on standby, but then again it didn't even do 1% of what my Hero can do - it's the price we pay for progress.
I believe many Symbian based phones do still allow this, since an alarm clock is essentially built into the "BIOS" of the device itself.
Please don't take any of this as gospel though.
Regards,
Dave
Do you mean when the phone has the screen switched off (short press of power button), or completely shut down (press and hold power, then select power off)? If the latter, then as above this is effectively like shutting a computer down, it is completely asleep. If the former it should work fine.
ewans said:
Do you mean when the phone has the screen switched off (short press of power button), or completely shut down (press and hold power, then select power off)? If the latter, then as above this is effectively like shutting a computer down, it is completely asleep. If the former it should work fine.
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I'm pretty sure he means completely shut down...
My girlfriend had a Siemens SL55 some years ago, and it moved with us in a box from appartment to house, and then suddenly one day it sounded an alarm!!!!
2 years earlier she had put a reminder for an anniversary in her calendar
foxmeister said:
This feature was very common, pre-smartphone, but I think you'll find the vast majority of what we now call smartphones (WinMo-based, iPhone, Android etc) don't actually support this any more as they are really little computers with phone functionality. It also wasn't that long ago when my phones battery used to last 10+ days on standby, but then again it didn't even do 1% of what my Hero can do - it's the price we pay for progress.
I believe many Symbian based phones do still allow this, since an alarm clock is essentially built into the "BIOS" of the device itself.
Please don't take any of this as gospel though.
Regards,
Dave
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So effectively when you forgot to connect Your phone to the charger before going to sleep you might be late for work in the morning? Thats not a very SMART phone, is it?
From what I know devices like the Hero also have bios and it is far much more sophisticated than old Nokias. Also the Hero doesnt turn off when the battery is completely empty so it would have some juice to sound an alarm. When You turn the phone back on, it remembers the date and time so the clock is running when its switched off. IMO this is just the developers being lazy - thats all
I would imagine that this can be a deal-breaker feature for some. Unfortunately its not included in the phone specs and most people (including me) would be 100% sure that it would wake them up when turned off. AFAIK all Nokia symbians have this.
stingerpl said:
So effectively when you forgot to connect Your phone to the charger before going to sleep you might be late for work in the morning? Thats not a very SMART phone, is it?
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Erhhh - no, it's not a very SMART user!
Regards,
Dave
If you honestly bought an HTC Hero in order to have an alarm clock you might wanna consider selling it again...
Just put the phone in flight mode and set the alarm...
My recurring alarm didn't go off this morning, very late for work....
Prille said:
Just put the phone in flight mode and set the alarm...
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What does flight mode do exactly?
ritdaw said:
My recurring alarm didn't go off this morning, very late for work....
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Are you using a task manager to kill processes? If it kills the clock the alarm won't go off.
frandavid100 said:
What does flight mode do exactly?
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Flight mode turns off all radio receiving and transmission on the phone.
Basically when turning flight mode on your left with a PDA without the phone part.
Thanks dude.
I have to say it is a pain that the alarm will not wake even the handset! All nokia's still do this, come to think of it is only HTC handsets & iphone (i think) that will not sound the alarm when the phone is off....
Simple things like this wouldbe so easy to implement. Oh well.
Prille said:
If you honestly bought an HTC Hero in order to have an alarm clock you might wanna consider selling it again...
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I expected that the Hero will sustain the basic features of traditional phones that most people treat as a given default and I just simply don't agree that it's impossible or hard to implement. Thats all.
I didnt buy the Hero for the alarm clock but it seems like I would have to consider buying a separate alarm clock just in case
stingerpl said:
I expected that the Hero will sustain the basic features of traditional phones that most people treat as a given...
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Unfortunately, as Android is still a very young OS you can't take anything for granted....like the bluetooth!
stingerpl said:
it seems like I would have to consider buying a separate alarm clock just in case
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maybe that would be a good idea....In my experience, most mobile phones are too darn quiet to wake me up anyway!!
It should be said that this is going to be more a function of the hardware, than the software. For those phones that do this, there is essentially a hardware timer that the overlying OS will program that switches on the device (effectively part of the system clock) when a particular time is reached. If the Hero has the necessary hardware, it should be possible to do this, but it would definitely require OS support since Android abstracts out the hardware so that applications can't reach it directly (except for NDK apps anyway).
Regards,
Dave
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Are you using a task manager to kill processes? If it kills the clock the alarm won't go off.
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Yes, but I don't close all of the apps. I close stuff manually. Perhaps I did close it on that day. Maybe I need to put it in the ignore list just incase!
Can confirm this is a bug
This is a bug, but I havent tracked down exactly what causes it.
When switched off, I mean the screen is switched off, not the whole phone.
When I go the phone on Thursday, I set the alarm for Monday through to Friday, 10.30am.
Friday morning, the phone wakes and the alarm goes off at 10.30. Fine.
Monday morning, nothing happens. Go into the settings, check alarm set for the correct time and day.
Tuesday morning, works fine, phone wakes and alarm goes off at 10.30, fine.
This morning, nothing.
My other phone alarm wakes me at 10.34. I switch on the Hero's screen, and immediately the alarm goes off, 4 minutes late!
Will try to see if it is because I wasnt in the home screen when it was switched off, or because it was a recurring alarm, or because it was charging.
Nonetheless this is a bug. Worked fine on my older phones, including several WinMo.
I will see if there is an Android alarm clock app available, and if it has the same problems.
graculusthegreenbird said:
When switched off, I mean the screen is switched off, not the whole phone.
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This is a different issue to the one being discussed here. We are talking about when the phone is shutdown completely.
Regards,
Dave
OK, apologies. I wouldnt expect anything to happen when my phone is switched off.
Hi all!
One thing drives me nuts about my wife tab - it turns screen on in the middle of the night, I guess when battery is completely charge.
Is there any way to disable or completely remove this behavior?
I use AutomateId to disable sounds, but there is nothing to turn off screen completely.
I checked few custom roms and do not see one fixing this problem. So, any suggestions will be appreciated!
Keep the tab switched off while charging
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Keep the tab switched off while charging
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Uh, yeah. That'dprobably do it. ;-)
On a somewhat related note... Is there a danger of overcharging? It always says, "Device fully charged. Please unplug charger." Is it unreasonable to expect smart charge capability?
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That is an option, unless you need it on for something else, like an alarm in the morning ;-)
However, sumsung phones developers let say, were able to work around in custom roms, so I was in hope, that may be I missed something...
JM_I said:
Uh, yeah. That'dprobably do it. ;-)
On a somewhat related note... Is there a danger of overcharging? It always says, "Device fully charged. Please unplug charger." Is it unreasonable to expect smart charge capability?
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the message to unplug is purely an energy saving measure. It doesn't mean unplug from the tab, it means unplug from the wall to prevent "vampire power drain".
I agree about it being sodding annoying, though; the point of charging overnight is that it's fully charged come morning not fully charged at, say, 1am and partially drained by morning! /rant
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the message to unplug is purely an energy saving measure. It doesn't mean unplug from the tab, it means unplug from the wall to prevent "vampire power drain".
I agree about it being sodding annoying, though; the point of charging overnight is that it's fully charged come morning not fully charged at, say, 1am and partially drained by morning! /rant
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Ah, well... Aside from being somewhat econazi-ish, that makes sense. The "wake-up-on-full-charge" thing doesn't really annoy me too much because it's in the case almost all the time. Closed cover = no problems.
CNemo7539 said:
Hi all!
One thing drives me nuts about my wife tab - it turns screen on in the middle of the night, I guess when battery is completely charge.
Is there any way to disable or completely remove this behavior?
I use AutomateId to disable sounds, but there is nothing to turn off screen completely.
I checked few custom roms and do not see one fixing this problem. So, any suggestions will be appreciated!
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Wow! I thought I was the only one. This drives me nuts! I just thought it was one of those random custom ROM bugs. I'd love a fix because then I could just set my setCPU profile to clock down when the screen is off, but since it comes on, I have to make more complicated settings (or else it overheats inside the case!).
I think I figured it out by a chance...
There setting "Never turn screen off when charging" or something like this. I do not have tab in front of me.
Removed that check and didn't see screen on this night.
If it help to anybody else please post here to confirm.
CNemo7539 said:
I think I figured it out by a chance...
There setting "Never turn screen off when charging" or something like this. I do not have tab in front of me.
Removed that check and didn't see screen on this night.
If it help to anybody else please post here to confirm.
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If you figure out where the setting is will you update this thread? Also, update the OP to make it useful to others (including me!)
settings>applications>developments>stay awake, unmark the box, I hope your problem will end. I unmarked it as soon as I got my P7500 while checking settings and never experience this.
I have this option unchecked as well. I can confirm that the tablet turns on when it is completely charged and then goes back to sleep after a short while again.
Regards
Achim
Yeap, it does that. But like you said it shut the display in a short while, if it the option unchecked.
It's usually disabled in custom roms but if you have the skills and time try to make it yourself, although it's annoying that at 4am you hear the tablet buzzin' you that it's fully charged...
I had the same screen switching on over night problem with stock 3.1 ROM.
The tab switched on automatically, and never switched off.
It happened while it was charged and while was not charged, or after rebooted.
I work in front of the tab, and it switched on more and more often.
Once I set the screen off time to another, shorter value, it solved the problem for that afternoon, but in the morning the screen was on again.
Finally I removed 50 rarely used apps, and the problem is almost fixed. It happened only once since then. I think I permitted some app to administer the device in the menu, and those caused this.
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I had the same screen switching on over night problem with stock 3.1 ROM.
The tab switched on automatically, and never switched off.
It happened while it was charged and while was not charged, or after rebooted.
I work in front of the tab, and it switched on more and more often.
Once I set the screen off time to another, shorter value, it solved the problem for that afternoon, but in the morning the screen was on again.
Finally I removed 50 rarely used apps, and the problem is almost fixed. It happened only once since then. I think I permitted some app to administer the device in the menu, and those caused this.
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I think my screen problem is also related to the multimedia dock. When the tab is in the dock and the dock is NOT connected to the charger, then few times it switches on the screen after some time.
I put my tab into silent mode and close the cover.
No noise no light.
Alarm still makes noise even in silent.
But there really should be an option to turn this off.
Anyone experience their alarm clock not going off? i've had it occured a few times in the past and just had thought i slept thru it or turned it off unknowingly. very unlikely because i set many alarms, starting at 8:00, 8:05, 8:10, all the way to 8:30. yesterday i woke up by myself without the alarm at 8:29 and was wondering what happened to my alarm? so i stared at my phone for 2 to 3 minutes and sure enough, the 8:30 alarm did not ring. i didnt do anything about it hoping that it was just gonna work the next day like how it always did. but today, i didnt wake up until 9:30 and was late to work. thats 2 days in a row that my alarm clock did not go off. i never had this problem with any other phone.
i did some searches and found some stuff but it doesnt apply to me such as clock and atk.
i have ATK installed but clock is on the ignore list AND autokill is set to off so thats not the issue.
some people say the wifi is dropping so the clock is not being updated, well that cant be the case because i turned on my phone yesterday at 8:29, turn the screen back off and watched the phone and the alarm still did not go off.
currently running meanrom but i dont think the rom has anything to do with it since the alarm does work most of the time. i think this is a bigger issue.
I've had it happen once, and it really freaked me out. I've used my phone as the only alarm for years.
I've also had a weird issue about half a dozen times where the clock automatically changed my time and time zone. I'm pretty solidly in Atlanta so no good reason for this.
Completely stock setup. Just waiting to see if it happens again...
Yes I have experienced this. Goodies 1.73
Luckily, I haven't suffered from it.
I keep an old fashioned alarm clock with the bells and hammers on my night stand for a power outage or whatever. You never know !
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Okay, I'm new, and I searched...but didn't see anything pertaining to this.
So I hope it's okay to create a new thread.
I just got a Certified Like-New Replacement HTC Rezound from Verizon after having so many problems with the Thunderbolt that I demanded a new device. Enter the Rezound.
The replacement is fairly nice. I'm enjoying ICS and it doesn't have the issues the Tbolt did.
However.
My long-term alarms don't have any sound. If I go to bed at midnight and set the alarm for 8am, confirm it's checked and it says "This alarm is set for 8 hours from now." At 8:02am someone else in the house wakes me up and I look at the phone and it has the screen as if the alarm were going off, but it is not making a sound. I have checked alarm volume and made sure it is up. Just for kicks, I also make sure I leave the ringer up all night so that it's not on silent/vibrate. It is on the charger, for what it's worth - and my Tbolt charger, since the Rezound did not come with one.
I tested the alarm myself a few times by setting it for 5 minutes in the future. It works fine, on and off the charger. 10 minutes, still fine. It just seems to be the ones that are 6 hours or 10 hours in the future...they will not make a sound if the phone has been idle all night. A friend of mine thinks it has to do with the phone going into a deeper sleep overnight. Not sure. All I know is I'm doing exactly what I did on the Tbolt and the alarm was one of the few things that worked right.
Now I'm in this predicament. Anyone else had this issue, or know what to try?
I'd like to avoid a hard factory reset if I can. Those suck.
I have no taskkillers running. The only questionable apps I have so far are Lookout (I like the missing device function) and maybe Astro.
Everything else is pretty vanilla. I don't have any "Lol Free Timer" apps, etc.
Also while we're at it, my GPS is weak. All 3 services: standalone, VZW, and Google are enabled. GPS is turned on. I can even see the dish icon flickering in the taskbar. But after 10 seconds in Maps, it will say Your location is temporarily unavailable - if I'm under any kind of cover. My car, any type of building...even in my home where I sit next to my mother who also has a Rezound (brand new as of August) and hers works fine. In the open air, mine will work too. But by comparison with my mom's Rezound...mine is significantly weaker.
Just to recap...
- My alarm makes no sound when it's an alarm that is set for a later time in the amount of several hours
- Ringer, media, and alarm volume are all up
- No task killers
- Works fine if it's set just for a few minutes in the future
- GPS is weak.
Anyone have any magical fixes to this, perhaps? I'd hate to have to get a new device.
Hopefully I've been descriptive enough here to not be too noobish
Thanks folks.
Very nice and descriptive post. I like the summary at the end.
Unfortunately, I don't have any solutions for you.
Your alarm issue may have something to do with being in dock mode or power saver/sleep mode. See if the alarms sound if you keep it on a regular wall charger. Only possible fix I could think for GPS would be ruu. Flash the global leak or the ics update before that if you havent already. Not guaranteed to fix it though. Good descriptive post, but are you rooted and what version OS are you on would be helpful as well in the future.
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Hey guys!
I'm kinda lost here. I've had my Archos Gamepad with Android 4.1.1 (sorry, forgot to put the device in the title) for a few weeks now. Yesterday I noticed there's no sound coming from it anymore. Since I mostly use it for things that don't require sound I can't really say when was the last time it worked. When I loaded up an N64 game yesterday I first noticed that there was no sound. Luckily, a reboot helped, I played for a few minutes and then put it away. Later that night I picked it up again, sound was gone.
After rebooting and fiddling around with settings about a thousand times, I can now say it will always go like this:
Reboot, unlock, unlocking sound is heard, clicking a few things, sound is fine, then all of a sudden it's gone.
But here's the strange part: When I lock the screen, it will always play that little *click* from the speakers. That one never fails. There's no sound at all no matter what I do, but as soon as I press the power button it goes *click*.
So here's a few facts:
- Sound stops after a few minutes of working, no matter what I do, even after factory reset
- Lock sound always plays
- Headphones do the same, working for a while then stopping, lock sound stays
- of course sound levels are at max, and there's no apps that do anything sound-related
- after connecting it to my laptop today it worked for for a while, longer than usual, but was gone again when I picked it up later
- auto-rotation of the screen also started failing on me from time to time, maybe related?
As a sidenote, a few days ago my washing machine broke, releasing a flood of water on the floor and my Gamepad just so happend to lay there, getting a little water on it. I picked it up right away, dried it off and shut it down. I don't know if that's anything to do with my problem because a) it worked fine when I turned it back on later, b) since the lock sound keeps playing I don't think my sound is broken hardware-wise, and c) I can't tell when sound stopped working because like I said before I don't always need it.
The working lock sound is what really confuses me about this. I just don't know what to make of this.
If anyone has even the slightes idea it will be much appreciated!
mookieananas said:
Hey guys!
I'm kinda lost here. I've had my Archos Gamepad with Android 4.1.1 (sorry, forgot to put the device in the title) for a few weeks now. Yesterday I noticed there's no sound coming from it anymore. Since I mostly use it for things that don't require sound I can't really say when was the last time it worked. When I loaded up an N64 game yesterday I first noticed that there was no sound. Luckily, a reboot helped, I played for a few minutes and then put it away. Later that night I picked it up again, sound was gone.
After rebooting and fiddling around with settings about a thousand times, I can now say it will always go like this:
Reboot, unlock, unlocking sound is heard, clicking a few things, sound is fine, then all of a sudden it's gone.
But here's the strange part: When I lock the screen, it will always play that little *click* from the speakers. That one never fails. There's no sound at all no matter what I do, but as soon as I press the power button it goes *click*.
So here's a few facts:
- Sound stops after a few minutes of working, no matter what I do, even after factory reset
- Lock sound always plays
- Headphones do the same, working for a while then stopping, lock sound stays
- of course sound levels are at max, and there's no apps that do anything sound-related
- after connecting it to my laptop today it worked for for a while, longer than usual, but was gone again when I picked it up later
- auto-rotation of the screen also started failing on me from time to time, maybe related?
As a sidenote, a few days ago my washing machine broke, releasing a flood of water on the floor and my Gamepad just so happend to lay there, getting a little water on it. I picked it up right away, dried it off and shut it down. I don't know if that's anything to do with my problem because a) it worked fine when I turned it back on later, b) since the lock sound keeps playing I don't think my sound is broken hardware-wise, and c) I can't tell when sound stopped working because like I said before I don't always need it.
The working lock sound is what really confuses me about this. I just don't know what to make of this.
If anyone has even the slightes idea it will be much appreciated!
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As you still have audio with the lock sound it doesn't sound like you broke it totally with the water damage so I recommend contacting Archos for a return/replacement.