s-pen problem could be screenprotector? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

So im playing with the s-pen and im trying to take a screenshot but nothing is happening im pressing down while pressing the button on the s-penbut no luck i think i did it twice in like 100 attempts now i can do everything else with the s-pen with no problem so im thinking its
Either a faulty s-pen or the SGP screenprotector is too thick

Are you making sure to hold on the screen long enough?
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phillyrican said:
So im playing with the s-pen and im trying to take a screenshot but nothing is happening im pressing down while pressing the button on the s-penbut no luck i think i did it twice in like 100 attempts now i can do everything else with the s-pen with no problem so im thinking its
Either a faulty s-pen or the SGP screenprotector is too thick
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There is no way the screen protector is too thick. It could be as thick as cardboard and it would still work. Press the button first then press it to the screen and hold it there.
You must either be doing something wrong or your s pen button is not activating. Have you tried to pull up the bottom menu or switch screens (swipe to the side) with your s pen while holding the button down?

planoman said:
There is no way the screen protector is too thick. It could be as thick as cardboard and it would still work. Press the button first then press it to the screen and hold it there.
You must either be doing something wrong or your s pen button is not activating. Have you tried to pull up the bottom menu or switch screens (swipe to the side) with your s pen while holding the button down?
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That was it thanks i was pressing agupainst screen then pressing the button now how do you bring up the memo app with the s-pen again?

phillyrican said:
That was it thanks i was pressing agupainst screen then pressing the button now how do you bring up the memo app with the s-pen again?
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press the button and then double tap on the screen.

You can also just swipe left to right with the side of your hand to get a screenshot; no need for the pen.
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overly sensitive capacitive buttons?

the capacitive buttons on my 3d are ridiculously sensitive! i dont even have to make contact with the glass to make them register as a button press, hovering over them is enough....
its getting rather annoying and im hoping the screen protector i ordered would help it a bit but does anyone else have the same problem?
Nope but I have a zagg on mine... Sometimes it seems I have to press the home button more firmly than others tho
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Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
vinterchaos said:
Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
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it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
thesparky007 said:
it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
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Yeah. Pretty freaking sensitive for me as well. Can be annoying sometimes.
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i noticed it too
Also noticed that sometimes when i press, it senses my finger a bit below where i touch. but maybe it's just a problem i have with my fingers :/
I have the same problem with mine too, and i have a ZAGG on it. It annoys the crap outta me. But what can we do?
even with the screen protector, i still find that hovering will prompt a keystroke. another qualm that i have with the phone is the placement of the sensitive power button up top.. being left handed, i seem to be finding it often by mistake.
That's the one thing I never liked about HTC phones, they love to use capacitive buttons. I prefer a mechanical one that can't so easily accidently be touched.
My capacitive buttons are also very sensitive (just like my power button ). Sometimes it is annoying when I bump/hover over the home key in the middle of what I'm doing. Over all, I think the entire screen is more sensitive than the Evo OG, because there have been a number of times when my screen has registered a touch when I thought I was only hovering.
Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
oldjackbob said:
Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
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Thats what i was wondering too.
slo895.0 said:
Thats what i was wondering too.
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i hope so too because this hinders regular use quite a bit
The capacitive buttons are overly sensitive with my screen protector on, too. It seems like the buttons have too much juice running to them altogether. (Being too bright and too sensitive.)
On another note; Everyone always talks about their over-sensitive power button, but mine is completely the opposite and hard to find and push sometimes. Especially in the otterbox commuter case, which I'd have to recommend if you have that issue.

Capacitive button solution - ICS upgrade?

Good day. It seems that alot are having problems with capacitive buttons not being responsive and on almost every xperia s review, they always mention having difficulty in having the buttons register. But, they say also that when ICS upgrade comes, those buttons would be useless anymore and wouldnt be used. What do they mean? In what way, will the ICS upgrade affect the useability of those buttons?
ARC X12 said:
Good day. It seems that alot are having problems with capacitive buttons not being responsive and on almost every xperia s review, they always mention having difficulty in having the buttons register. But, they say also that when ICS upgrade comes, those buttons would be useless anymore and wouldnt be used. What do they mean? In what way, will the ICS upgrade affect the useability of those buttons?
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ICS has 3 onscreen buttons (home, back, menu), but i guess ppl will not like its on their phone!
keunhuvac said:
ICS has 3 onscreen buttons (home, back, menu), but i guess ppl will not like its on their phone!
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As we have the capacitive buttons they could still utilise them couldn't they? At least that way we don't lose screen to the onscreen buttons like the GNEX has!
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ianford10 said:
As we have the capacitive buttons they could still utilise them couldn't they? At least that way we don't lose screen to the onscreen buttons like the GNEX has!
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I would suspect that the capacitive buttons will continue to be used much like the nexus s. has Sony indicated otherwise?
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More likely Sony won't utilise the "on screen" ics buttons and simply remove those in favor of the extra screen realestate. The physical buttons are in the exact same position as the ics on screen buttons so no point in having 2 of each button to do the same job.
I don't have much of an issue now with the buttons, practice makes perfect.
Try sliding up the buttons instead.
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I would suspect that the capacitive buttons will continue to be used much like the nexus s. has Sony indicated otherwise?
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As far as I'm aware no they haven't and to be honest I would prefer the capacitive buttons
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Similar to somemadcaaant, here's what I realised. Almost 80% of the time I just need the back button.
I am sliding my finger around the button area from right to left. This action feels natural for going back.
For home button, I make a small circle in the middle. I so seldom use the menu button it doesn't bother me.
I just hope that there would be an option to use the on screen buttons or the capacitive buttons when ICS is implemented. I just cant imagine why a big company like sony could have mislook this possible problem with the capacitive buttons.
Yeah, after having capacitive buttons on the original Nexus, and a few other devices they are all the same.
Sometimes a little inconsistent, and you just need to adapt to them. the S is no different.
Took me a day or so to get used to it.
Hopefully they just integrate the buttons into the ICS rom and don't bother with the screen ones.
Really, I don't get this whole "unresponsive capacitive button" thing.
They are responsive, it just takes getting used to. You find the sensor, you touch it, it works, it is responsive, but the dots just confuse people. You can't hit the buttons well because of big fingers or well you keep thinking its the silver dots? Use the swipe method.
They respond just fine it's not a matter of them needing to be more sensitive or larger, it's a matter of getting used to it. Part of the joys of having a new shiny device, learning how to use it .
And if ICS brings the onscreen buttons, I will disable it, because I can use my "unresponsive capacitive buttons" perfectly fine, and don't want to lose screen space.
i really hope they remove the on screen buttons or atleast have an option to tun them off, it will just look out of place having two sets of the same fuctioning buttons.
shmoejoe said:
Really, I don't get this whole "unresponsive capacitive button" thing.
They are responsive, it just takes getting used to. You find the sensor, you touch it, it works, it is responsive, but the dots just confuse people. You can't hit the buttons well because of big fingers or well you keep thinking its the silver dots? Use the swipe method.
They respond just fine it's not a matter of them needing to be more sensitive or larger, it's a matter of getting used to it. Part of the joys of having a new shiny device, learning how to use it .
And if ICS brings the onscreen buttons, I will disable it, because I can use my "unresponsive capacitive buttons" perfectly fine, and don't want to lose screen space.
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I totally agree, since I had this Phone i never experienced unresponsive buttons or something, and its my first phone with capacitive buttons.
I simply swipe upwards. It's not a huge movement, just a fraction of an inch.
Took about a day to get used to it, quite like it now.
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Hope no! That would take realstate of the screen. I got used to the tiny buttons ....
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shmoejoe said:
Really, I don't get this whole "unresponsive capacitive button" thing.
They are responsive, it just takes getting used to. You find the sensor, you touch it, it works, it is responsive, but the dots just confuse people. You can't hit the buttons well because of big fingers or well you keep thinking its the silver dots? Use the swipe method.
They respond just fine it's not a matter of them needing to be more sensitive or larger, it's a matter of getting used to it. Part of the joys of having a new shiny device, learning how to use it .
And if ICS brings the onscreen buttons, I will disable it, because I can use my "unresponsive capacitive buttons" perfectly fine, and don't want to lose screen space.
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Razje said:
I totally agree, since I had this Phone i never experienced unresponsive buttons or something, and its my first phone with capacitive buttons.
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out of interest, do either of you use a screen protector?
I have the one that came factory installed, and yes it is actually a screen protector, it's clearly visible from closeup.
Phone comes with a screen protector already on.
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Amazing hint
Sliding the buttons instead touching really gaves a warm nd better feeling as well as all the issues people arr having with touch buttons are gone!!!
I think sony made it sliding only but didn't mentioned anywhere!
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Another way to get more responsitive buttons is to remove the screen protector from the buttons area... they get a little bit more responsive...
I had a Nexus S and when CM9 (ICS) came to that it just didn't have the on-screen buttons. I'm 99% sure that'll be the case on this phone.

[Solved] The capacitive home, back & menu button issue

Many of you are having the problem where the back, home or menu buttons are insensitive and don't respond very well.
After some tests and confirmations, it is believed to be what is called 'hard capacitive buttons'.
What does hard capacitive mean? It means you have to press with a bit more force like the galaxy nexus.
Reason for hard capacitive buttons?
To prevent accidental pressing of them, thus requiring to use a bit more pressure. I makes sense now doesn't it?
please feel free to test and confirm for your own confirmations, hope this closes all the cases regarding the capacitive buttons issue!
royalbloodvi said:
Many of you are having the problem where the back, home or menu buttons are insensitive and don't respond very well.
After some tests and confirmations, it is believed to be what is called 'hard capacitive buttons'.
What does hard capacitive mean? It means you have to press with a bit more force like the galaxy nexus.
Reason for hard capacitive buttons?
To prevent accidental pressing of them, thus requiring to use a bit more pressure. I makes sense now doesn't it?
please feel free to test and confirm for your own confirmations, hope this closes all the cases regarding the capacitive buttons issue!
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true story!
royalbloodvi said:
Many of you are having the problem where the back, home or menu buttons are insensitive and don't respond very well.
After some tests and confirmations, it is believed to be what is called 'hard capacitive buttons'.
What does hard capacitive mean? It means you have to press with a bit more force like the galaxy nexus.
Reason for hard capacitive buttons?
To prevent accidental pressing of them, thus requiring to use a bit more pressure. I makes sense now doesn't it?
please feel free to test and confirm for your own confirmations, hope this closes all the cases regarding the capacitive buttons issue!
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Well, just to let you know people will have their issues regarding this problems forever. I have gone though two Xperia S and quality of buttons differ in one another. But either way never had to push too hard to activate it. Has been pretty good but this clarify things for people with questions again.
Thanks
I tried this method and i still couldn't get it all the time. The sliding worked better but why should it be that way? As an SE fan from W910, i wanted to love it but couldn't mainly for this reason.
I think overtime time people can get it right but SE did screw it up. Just like iPhone antenna issue there is way to not let it bother you. But there are just too many design flaws with this phone for my liking.
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sliding my finger over the capacitive buttons works 100% of the time, so I prefer this method.
also this doesn't require a "hard press" I can just lightly slide my finger and it will register.
ssj_jaypee said:
sliding my finger over the capacitive buttons works 100% of the time, so I prefer this method.
also this doesn't require a "hard press" I can just lightly slide my finger and it will register.
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+1 that
Nimche said:
Well, just to let you know people will have their issues regarding this problems forever. I have gone though two Xperia S and quality of buttons differ in one another. But either way never had to push too hard to activate it. Has been pretty good but this clarify things for people with questions again.
Thanks
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Noticed the difference myself going through the second Xperia experience...
Both phones are a bit different but the pressure used is the same.
Only the size of the capacitive buttons is different :-/
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I wasn't aware there was a pressure activation?
I always swipe from the transparent bar up, works 100% no "pressure" or unresponsive problems at all. I use it just as swiping in an app
I don't consider this an -issue- its more of a learning curve .
I'm not convinced by this. I can activate them with an extremely light touch (I just tested this) but only if I do a slight swiping action.
Even a touch as light as I can use on the screen works on the buttons as long as I am in the right place.
A hard press probably just spreads your finger pad out more so you get the right area more easily
Within minutes of getting my XS I naturally started using the slide technique. Can't see an issue with the buttons myself. I get the occasional miss but nothing that causes an issue.
agree with slide on them . It works perfectly
The totally active space is above the dots ,between screen and dots .
I'm with slide since I got the phone. Works better.
I've had my XS for 2 weeks now and from day 1 I didn't have problems using the capacitive buttons. I miss occasionally but that happened also with other devices.
no the buttons has an issue,when you press softly it work sometimes sometimes dont same swiping and pressing hard so no one please try to fool your self here it just doesnt work like others do
cihanleanne said:
no the buttons has an issue,when you press softly it work sometimes sometimes dont same swiping and pressing hard so no one please try to fool your self here it just doesnt work like others do
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Ok you are right,you feel happy now
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gm007 said:
Ok you are right,you feel happy now
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its not about hapiness its about paying something and not working properly. we have to find a workaround device paying a lot money
cihanleanne said:
its not about hapiness its about paying something and not working properly. we have to find a workaround device paying a lot money
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Believe me if you use your phone for 2-3 weeks you will get used to it.
Now I don't miss any button.
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Hy, the 3 sensitives buttons don't work if you slide your finger down ( screen to led bar ), but if you slide up ( led bar to the screen ) he respond immediatly.
If you come by the screen, you did to go up when you arrived on the level of the sensitives buttons.
If you just slide down buttons stay inactive.
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My first day was annoying and frustrating, but
after 24-48 hours of use I never missed a hit again.
You get used to it pretty fast once you find the "g spot" and your brain learns to automate the task.
(hint: side dots upper medial, home dot slighty up)
Now it's piece of cake
3Shirts said:
I'm not convinced by this. I can activate them with an extremely light touch (I just tested this) but only if I do a slight swiping action.
Even a touch as light as I can use on the screen works on the buttons as long as I am in the right place.
A hard press probably just spreads your finger pad out more so you get the right area more easily
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I agree, i'm not sure about the pressure difference it might be possible, but i can also activate it with a light touch. And hard pressing results in touching with more surface, just like you said.
It also looks like the sensitive part is just a little above the dot.
The buttons do not always work, and we should not have to swipe.
Did Sony mention these buttons somewhere? manybe in the manual? lol
Maybe it is a problem just like the yellow screen is, but no one knows

Power button fragile?

On my SGS3 the power button seems a bit fragile, if you click almost on the edge of the button it will twitch, twist and will not click, that does not happen on the GNex, the button shape is similar, but even when clicking on the edge, the button is solid and will click. Is it just my phone that has some problem on the button or is it a "problem" with all SGS3?
DarknessWarrior said:
On my SGS3 the power button seems a bit fragile, if you click almost on the edge of the button it will twitch, twist and will not click, that does not happen on the GNex, the button shape is similar, but even when clicking on the edge, the button is solid and will click. Is it just my phone that has some problem on the button or is it a "problem" with all SGS3?
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I don't have any issues with it. Try comparing it with others at the store/your friends and see.
It's absolute edges are somewhat unclickable but on the other hand it's hard to press there anyway - you will grab the middle anyway.
Should you decide to use a protective cover (recommended ^^) then it won't be an issue anyway since such additional layers disperse your press across a wider surface.
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It's absolute edges are somewhat unclickable but on the other hand it's hard to press there anyway - you will grab the middle anyway.
Should you decide to use a protective cover (recommended ^^) then it won't be an issue anyway since such additional layers disperse your press across a wider surface.
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i'm using the flipcover, so i can't use any of those protective covers.
thanks for the replies, i will try to find someone who has it to compare lol
Well, atleast it isn't getting stuck like mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920938
lolhard123 said:
Well, atleast it isn't getting stuck like mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920938
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if i press it on the top or on the bottom it twists like that, but doesn't get stuck
Well you're lucky mine gets stuck.
But that's normal I think, just put it in a case that covers the buttons and you'll forget all about it.

Impossible to find rear power button...FIXED

So I often found myself hitting the volume buttons instead of power (when not using tap on), so I got a TPU case and tapped a rubber band to the inside of the case (across the opening) so the rubber band covers the power button when the case is on. The rubber band forms a sort of grippy button such that my finger naturally goes right to the power button. It does lift the case up a little bit in the back, but the case stays on fine. I'm sure instead of the rubber band, you could use a piece of silicon or rubber, and glue instead of tape if you wish too.
Just figured I might share this with people who may be having similar power-button-seaking frustrations
Sounds like a great idea for those with difficulty - for myself - I love the buttons on the back! It was the main reason I got the phone because I was tired of grabbing my phone on the sides & always either changing the volume up or down or turning the phone off, etc. etc. Therefore, for me, the buttons on the back are just great & it almost gives me a sense of freedom to handle the phone without hitting the buttons on the sides.
However, I can see some people having a problem. Also, they could just feel with their finger, the bottom of the tpu case cutout & know that the bottom is volume down & then over the hump, is the volume up.
I stippled the power button on mine.
Example of stippling on a shotgun grip. The surface around it is how it normally is.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/6887983878_1d68bdd506_z.jpg
I do this for a lot of my other stuff, so I though I'd give it a try with some really fine stippling. It's great, gives me immediate clarity to which key is the right one, plus I can just slide my finger down and when it stops on the rugged surface I'm in the right spot. Also works with gloves, of course, as they also grip it.
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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By finding he obviously refers to when you're holding the phone its not as obvious as it can be with the button on the side. You sometimes find yourself hitting what you think is the power button, but might be an edge next to it or such.
If you don't have the issue that's great, but a lot of others do, especially since most of us are used to using our thumb for it, on sidebutton.
PS. If you're going to do the "First of all"-approach, you should probably have more than one point to present.
shook187 said:
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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Your comment was a game changer. Thanks for playing.
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shook187 said:
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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You sir, win the XDA stupidity award! (That is very hard to do on this site! So many stupid people!) Congrats! What do you win??? A swift kick in the a$$
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