Now that my phone is rooted I want to know what AT&T junkware is safe to delete? I have Titanium Backup (not the Pro version) and it only allows me to delete stuff. I would like to get rid of the AT&T Navigator and anything else AT&T related but I don't want to get rid of anything that could cause conflicts.
Any tips would be appreciated.
If you remove any bloatware, you may not be able to apply any future OTA updates from AT&T. Keep that in mind.
The first one in my mind is Tethering Manager. With this removed, you will be able to tethering without paying for tethering plan. But keep in mind, AT&T can still catch you tethering.
The ones I'd keep are:
AT&T Hotspots --> this allows you to get free wi-fi access from AT&T wi-fi hotspots (it checks you account to make sure you are qualified with a Smartphone data plan).
Swype -> Best Android keyboard IMO.
AllShare-> DLNA client. Very useful for streaming from PCs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504766
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If you remove any bloatware, you may not be able to apply any future OTA updates from AT&T. Keep that in mind.
The first one in my mind is Tethering Manager. With this removed, you will be able to tethering without paying for tethering plan. But keep in mind, AT&T can still catch you tethering.
The ones I'd keep are:
AT&T Hotspots --> this allows you to get free wi-fi access from AT&T wi-fi hotspots (it checks you account to make sure you are qualified with a Smartphone data plan).
Swype -> Best Android keyboard IMO.
AllShare-> DLNA client. Very useful for streaming from PCs.
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I actually removed AT&T Hotspots because it constantly runs in the background and it's a waste of battery to me. Even if you FC it, it comes back after a little while. Also I've only been one place where there was an AT&T hotspot and it was slower than 3G, so that was pretty much useless
Things running at background all the time. It doesn't mean they waste battery. This app never showed up in my top battery usage chart.
3G in my area is pretty slow (100k to 800k). So the wi-fi hotspot sometimes is useful.
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I pretty much froze everything on this list that can be removed rather then removing it.
Im pretty sure it works the same way... that way if you make a mistake uninstalling something -- you don't have to re-flash a stock rom
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I was thinking about using the app wifi tether and was wondering about ATT detecting it. I am on unlimited data and don't want to get the boot...if I used it once in a great while.
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I have been using the stock tethering by rooting and deleting some tethering apk (look for it somewhere in the forums). But I have not had any issues or messages about tethering. They will give you a warning if you are detected though and that'll give you time to stop tethering. In other words they're not gonna just take you off unlimited instantly.
If you're still on gingerbread root the phone and download titanium backup and delete tethering manager then boom. Don't have to pay for tethering services
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Ok, so back on topic here.
They can and they can't.
If you just browse the net and do normal things like that, no, they can't.
But, you start sucking up bandwidth playing MMO's and downloading torrents, then yeah, they will get you eventually.
The amount of Bandwidth you use will get you before they seek you out for tethering is what I am trying to say. Just be reasonable and responsible is all.
On my cappy I was running saurom and tethered alot of the day to my laptop. Never got anything from ATT. Now I have the Note and its stock. Installed FoxFi and within a few days of just normal browsing I got a text from ATT so I had to call them and stop tethering, don't want to lose my unlimited data plan.
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I have unlimited data and used to tether my laptop to my Infuse when my internet was down at my college house. My roommates also would tether to it and use their laptops and our internet connected bluray player to watch netflix. I never had any problems, until I installed a ROM that didn't have the tetheringmanager.apk removed, because the developer thought free tethering was wrong...ugh. I didn't bother to check for it being uninstalled, as most custom ROMs have it removed, and I got a text from AT&T about an hour later.
I was really pissed when I went and read that the dev didn't remove it, because it caused me to lose my tethering ability since I want to keep my unlimited data, but it was also my fault for not checking. Long story short, make sure the apk is reoved, and you should be good to go. They may still catch you if you use enormous amounts of data as others have said, but they will warn you before changing your unlimited plan to a tiered tethering one.
My suggestion, do it while you can, and just stop if you get warned! =]
Ok pretty much what I was expecting. I have a few questions but first I want to clarify that I'm on Saurom VII, does anyone know if this ROM had the APK removed and what's the name of it so I can remove with titanium if need be? Thanks in advance.
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Edit: I found two apps named wifi share 1.0 and wifi sharing manager 1.0...bingo?
No bingo, though I don't think it would hurt to remove those either, as those could also tip off att, not sure though. The one you need to make sure of is tetheringmanager.apk. Go into root explorer: system > app > and delete tetheringmanager.apk
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I couldst find anything name tethering manager, but I found like 3 other apps that the wifi icon but not sure what they do lol. Here a screen shot..., well apparently I can't upload a screen shot because the JPEG had an invalid file extension (using the XDA app)
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Disabling TetheringManager
This thread is very helpful. Thanks!
Posters have suggested that you delete the TetheringManager apk. Could you just freeze it (in Titanium Backup) instead?
backup then remove
You can freeze it if you have the Premium Titanium Backup. If you don't you can back it up then uninstall it. That way you can restore it if need.
Yes. Freezing works.
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I'm really curious as to how exactly AT&T figures out who tethers. In the past, I tethered all the time whenever I needed to use my laptop in the field. Never a problem, and I never abused it. Then I got my international SGSII (GT-I9100). I was trying to download a wi-fi driver to my home PC so I could connect with my Cox Cable internet home network. I probably had tethering on for maybe 5 minutes, and I know I had to have consumed <5megs of data. A couple hours later I got the email and text from AT&T telling me they were moving me off the unlimited plan to the limited plan.
How'd they know? The phone isn't available on AT&T, and didn't have any of AT&T's tething apk's like tetheringmanager.apk. I've tried Googling to see if anybody knows exactly how they know, but nobody seems to know.
ClockworkMod Tether is supposed to be invisible to the phone company. I'm just afraid to test it now! Tether link: http://goo.gl/7Ay6w
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How'd they know? The phone isn't available on AT&T, and didn't have any of AT&T's tething apk's like tetheringmanager.apk. I've tried Googling to see if anybody knows exactly how they know, but nobody seems to know.
ClockworkMod Tether is supposed to be invisible to the phone company. I'm just afraid to test it now! Tether link: http://goo.gl/7Ay6w
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There's been a lot of discussion about how AT&T detects tethering. From everything I've read, I believe that they look at the TTL parameter in the packets to see if there's an extra hop. When you tether, packets originate on the tethered device and the TTL gets changed. Apparently, some of the USB tether apps like ClockworkMod Tether don't change the TTL, so they avoid detection.
I haven't tested this myself, so I don't know for sure that ClockworkMod Tether is safe to use. Maybe other people have used it and can report here.
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If you're still on gingerbread root the phone and download titanium backup and delete tethering manager then boom. Don't have to pay for tethering services
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Isn't the Tethering Manager app needed for 3rd party Tethering to work? When I start FoxFi, Tethering Manager also got started immediately. I am on stock rooted.
I got the text from AT&T saying that I had to stop tethering so I called and tried to lie about but they said they were tipped off because I accessed the apple store multiple time and since I was on WM at the time it would be impossible for me to do that on my device. They were correct I was tethering to an ipod touch and they somehow knew. The women told me sometimes they get tips from their security system that tells them different things about the likelyhood of what customers are tethering and when their system gathers enough information to prove someone is tethering it automatically sends a text to that customer. I felt stupid for tryin to lie after she told me their records show I never switched my sim to an iphone and was still able to access the apple store several times. I never got caught tethering until I tethered the ipod.
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I got the text from AT&T saying that I had to stop tethering so I called and tried to lie about but they said they were tipped off because I accessed the apple store multiple time and since I was on WM at the time it would be impossible for me to do that on my device. They were correct I was tethering to an ipod touch and they somehow knew. The women told me sometimes they get tips from their security system that tells them different things about the likelyhood of what customers are tethering and when their system gathers enough information to prove someone is tethering it automatically sends a text to that customer. I felt stupid for tryin to lie after she told me their records show I never switched my sim to an iphone and was still able to access the apple store several times. I never got caught tethering until I tethered the ipod.
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Same thing here, never got busted until I tethered my iPad from my iPhone. So far so good with the note...
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So apparently verizon has somehow modified the stock hotspot mode to try and contact them first for approval, hence products like Wi-Fi tether and Open Garden. However I really dislike the interface and feel of these apps, and their widgets are ugly. I have a nice beautiful theme going on and then SPLAT, some ugly out of proportion tether widget ruining the whole look. I'd really like to be able to get the native hotspot mode functioning. Does anybody know a way to do this? Or does it just have to be hacked by the dev's somehow to get a working apk or whatever that doesnt phone home to verizon for approval?
The Hotspot app that comes in a Verizon rom, is a paid feature.
The only way to have that app functioning, is to pay Verizon for the service.
I don't think there are many if any devs, willing to hack or modify that application to be used without paying for the service.
There are many ways to tether without devs doing anything illegal or unethical.
Just thought I would point out why you won't find that app working without paying for it.
Oh I understand how it works, I just remember in the early Sense leaks that team bamf or whoever had provided a working stock hotspot that didnt phone home to verizon for permission every time. Guess they abandoned that and just let people download wifi tether and such. I just always found the stock hotspot to be infinitely better than any 3rd party app. Aside from having a cleaner interface and functioning properly with the kernel/hardware, it was MUCH faster than other aps. I could easily get 15-20mbps with stock hotspot, now I'm lucky to get 2mbps with wifi tether.
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Oh I understand how it works, I just remember in the early Sense leaks that team bamf or whoever had provided a working stock hotspot that didnt phone home to verizon for permission every time. Guess they abandoned that and just let people download wifi tether and such. I just always found the stock hotspot to be infinitely better than any 3rd party app. Aside from having a cleaner interface and functioning properly with the kernel/hardware, it was MUCH faster than other aps. I could easily get 15-20mbps with stock hotspot, now I'm lucky to get 2mbps with wifi tether.
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All I know is that the built-in tethering feature works on the AOSP ICS ROM I'm running, and works well. I know what you mean about it being a simple, clean design, but what I miss is the ability to see who's connected and how much data you use.
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
If someone can confirm a working way of doing this, I will provide them with file hosting and subdomain on my server, with full ftp access... etc. Thanks!
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Also, let me know if this is in the wrong section
I used the native tethering on SnowJB fairly heavily without issue and as far as I can tell it was never detected.
I was rooted and running various ROMs on my Samsung Infuse a few months ago, and I got an email saying they would add the tethering service to my plan if I continued to use it.
A couple years ago I had a jailbroken iPhone and tethered a lot of data and never had an issue.
I have not yet tried on the LGOG in fear of getting a $40/month service automatically added to my bill.
Sorry I don't have an answer, just sharing my experience I've encountered while tethering.
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I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
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avoiding detection would probably mean using a method that doesn't rewrite the TTL's on the outbound packets. I've used wifi-tether w/o issue as have many others, I'm sure. I suspect that wifi-tether doesn't preserve the TTL's, but people get away with it because the cost/benefit to carriers is to pick the top 1% of bandwidth users and examine their usage for good reason to stop them somehow, illegal tethering being a good convenient one.
I'm sorry I don't have a solution for you, as I've also searched for just such a thin and not found it. I am curious what others are doing for tethering on this device, though.
If used sparingly, you PROBABLY won't get caught. I used foxfi on my old phone on different occasions and never recieved any notifications about tethering.
jonasl (if you don't recognize the name, he is very good at what he does) had a post in the SnowJB thread a while back about fixing the tethering issues people were having. From what I understand of it, the tethering checks to see if AT&T customers have the entitlement to tether, but since this is a ported ROM, it isn't able to find out if you are entitled (the code doesn't exist to finish the check). His fix circumvents the check (which as he says "This will as a sideeffect also give you tethering even if you aren't paying for it").
I have implemented the fix in case I needed it, but have not had a need to tether since, so I can't vouch for it in that regard, I can say everything still works as expected.
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If you really want to avoid detection, you could run a socks proxy on your phone that forwards to another socks proxy on the internet. Then you need a way to use the socks proxy on your phone. On the client side it can be easy (web browsers have a socks proxy setting, and there are wrappers to socksify anything on your pc) or harder (if you're tethering a tablet or game console or something). Finally, you need a way to bring up both your wireless and mobile data connections at the same time - you could use wifi tether for this if you only need to tether wireless clients, or a more manual method if you need your phone to be a regular wifi client on your network.
Not sure whats going on, but my go-to way for avoiding hotspot paywalls recently stopped working.
Nothing on my side has changed. I'm still using my same personal OpenVPN server with the same config files.
I did change laptops recently, but I double checked with Wireshark, all packets coming in and out are OpenVPN packets with a few TCP packets sprinkled in there. No way you T-Mobile can tell what the packets are really for.
Has anyone else noticed this? I'm thinking T-Mobile has switched to tracking tether usage by using the phone itself to report it.
If thats the case, I could probably get around it by rooting and using a custom ROM with its own hotspot app (like CM). Right?
But meh... I'm happy with the phone as it is right now.
All the Carriers are cracking done on tethering. And I don't think switching to CM will help. I'm with you I love Sense to switch to CM
If you have the T-Mobile my account app installed it's tracking what your doing. As for tethering, I have the truly unlimited, no tether included plan, and tether with out a problem.
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So if I uninstall the my account app, they cant track it?
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If you have the T-Mobile my account app installed it's tracking what your doing. As for tethering, I have the truly unlimited, no tether included plan, and tether with out a problem.
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The tracking function requires user permission, which I have not done...
You could try paying for a service that you use
That's an option or use the work around and get it for free, after all you are paying for the data. Why not use it as you please.
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Hi All,
I'm interested in wifi tethering for my cellphone, but the information provided for the various tethering aps on google playstore website is somewhat incomplete.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 cellphone with a Verizon unlimited talk, text and data plan. I pay an extra charge each month to allow very limited wifi tethering, but it limits my tethering usage to 4 GB per month. MY PHONE IS ROOTED!!
I notice ALL wifi tethering aps require me to enable wifi tethering in my cellphone's settings menu. This is unsuitable because Verizon knows I am using the phone for tethering. I looked in the free and the paid aps listings.
I'm looking for an ap that does not use the phone to set enable wifi tethering from the phones setting menu. In other words, I do NOT want Verizon to know I am using their phone to do tethering for my other wifi devices.
Any suggestions are appreciated, perhaps I'm not searching for relevant keywords??
Thanks,
AG
I've been using foxfi to tether for at least a year now. I use at least 100 gigs every month watch Hulu and Netflix. I've haven't heard anything from them about it. I dont know if they can tell. I've never heard of anybody getting any hassle about foxfi. I think there is an xposed module that might work I can't think of the name of it. Might check it out. Good luck