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To the lucky ones! What is it like?
Whats the OS like? Better than iPhone/Android?
Its pretty good. The quality of the GUI is brilliant. It seems a little buggy with the marketplace. Before adding any exchange or Gmail accounts it was really snappy. Since adding the accounts it seems to have lost this edge (android was just like this too).
I've also got a Desire and they are almost identical in size and layout. I prefer android and its widgets though winpho isn't without its charm. I liken the experience to when I got a HTC Magic... not too many decent apps and only a few firmware updates and apps from being brilliant.
Apple UI and app store still make the platform impressive.... not really enough for me to hang onto my iPhone 4 for more than a couple of weeks.
There are some things to really like. Especially, the HTC hub from what I have seen so far. However, bugs are everywhere. Get errors when trying to install apps, says licences are not valid, or other errors and you just keep hitting retry until they install.
My computer wouldnt recognise it at first when I connected it to usb. It said unknown usb device. The driver install failed, then followed some windows updates for windows phone, a reboot, then it recognised it as a HTC and eventually as a windows phone. C'mon MS get the basics right.
I expect to like the phone eventually, but tomorrow I will still be using my HD2 with either WM6.5 or Android. Android just works and works well...
A disappointing start, but hopefully, it will come together soon!
thanks for the replies guys.
i am torn between this and omnia 7. am leaning towards the omnia 7 for the better specs! I cant wait to get one though. I sold my iPhone 4 to get one of these!
I'm using the mozart and am quite impressed. Although dont really l like the blocks without a nice background.
Keyboard is uber snappy though! :0)
I've had a few high end Samsungs and support, ie firmware updates etc have always been rubbish, whereas HTC are always pretty great.
Just my 2 cents.
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I've had a few high end Samsungs and support, ie firmware updates etc have always been rubbish, whereas HTC are always pretty great.
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Yepp, that´s the reason I won´t buy any Samsung product anymore. Firmware updates are crappy, the build quality of the hardware has become crappy, too.
Oh, and KIES? I think WP7 users will be happy not to be forced to use that impossible piece of software. KIES is an absolute no-go, killed the Galaxy S for me, next to the extremely cheap plastic feeling.
I´ll stick to HTC, either this one (Mozart) or HD7. But I´ll wait for a couple of months to see how the overall development looks like. And I still believe there is a slight chance that there will be a WP7 port for my HD2...
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I have had a number of phones over the last 3 years from HTC HD and HD2, but this Mozart is seriously quick. Bootup time is quick, the UI is lightning fast and good for big fingers which anoyed me with 6.5 and Android.
Keyboard is the best ive used so far, and ive only started to learn its capabilities.
I had it connected to my work Exchange and Live accounts in a few mins, and it hasn't slowed one bit yet.
More updates as i get more time to play.
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I have had a number of phones over the last 3 years from HTC HD and HD2, but this Mozart is seriously quick. Bootup time is quick, the UI is lightning fast and good for big fingers which anoyed me with 6.5 and Android.
Keyboard is the best ive used so far, and ive only started to learn its capabilities.
I had it connected to my work Exchange and Live accounts in a few mins, and it hasn't slowed one bit yet.
More updates as i get more time to play.
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Thats good to hear. So I would assume that you would recommend it ?
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I'm using the mozart and am quite impressed. Although dont really l like the blocks without a nice background.
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It would be pretty bad ass if some of the XDA devs found a way to replace the black background with wallpapers!
Also, I wish the Mozart worked for T-Mo USA.
Talk about basics.... Try connecting to a WiFi network which has ssid broadcast disabled. I dare you to.... You can't. WTF!
Or try and find the mac address for the phone.
And another thing.... What's the point of being able to select a word in the browser when you can't copy and paste...nor does a co text menu able if you tap and hold the selection.
And for the encore... 373Mb downloaded over 3g in about 12 hours...most of which I was asleep! On my desire after a month of exchange and Gmail, downloading apps over 3g all the time I barely use 300mb. Interesting when every app I tried to install failed???
Bah. I really wanted AMOLED but the sammy is butt ugly in person and its huge...the mozart has a way nicer form factor. Dunno what I want now D=
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Talk about basics.... Try connecting to a WiFi network which has ssid broadcast disabled. I dare you to.... You can't. WTF!
Or try and find the mac address for the phone.
And another thing.... What's the point of being able to select a word in the browser when you can't copy and paste...nor does a co text menu able if you tap and hold the selection.
And for the encore... 373Mb downloaded over 3g in about 12 hours...most of which I was asleep! On my desire after a month of exchange and Gmail, downloading apps over 3g all the time I barely use 300mb. Interesting when every app I tried to install failed???
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Hmm, the Zune had the same issue connecting to hidden SSID's and adhoc wifi (main reason I never got one), so this gives me cause for concern really.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
Really undecided now
Kinda relates to this thread but not from a user perspective.
I was really looking at getting this device over the Desire.
Now with some research I'm seeing some stuff that really has me leaning back to the Desire.
Batt life seems to be short (anyone remember the first release of the Diamonds)
No copy & paste out of the box... What the f...?
Most of this I'm hoping will be fixed with updates but when will that happen and how soon will the carriers pass them on???
Update: Yes trinest it is.. Its a base function in a business used device and very applish of them to leave it out.
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Kinda relates to this thread but not from a user perspective.
I was really looking at getting this device over the Desire.
Now with some research I'm seeing some stuff that really has me leaning back to the Desire.
Batt life seems to be short (anyone remember the first release of the Diamonds)
No copy & paste out of the box... What the f...?
Most of this I'm hoping will be fixed with updates but when will that happen and how soon will the carriers pass them on???
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From what I've read Battery life is fine- idoits just leave Wifi and every other thing on- gee- I wonder why the battery is draining.
No copy and paste? seriously? thats what keeps you up at night? shesh.
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From what I've read Battery life is fine- idoits just leave Wifi and every other thing on- gee- I wonder why the battery is draining.
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Honestly, there is no reason for the Wifi chip to drain that much battery if you're not connected to a network. It might be polling too much on the background and burning through battery life.
I've had iPhones and an android phone for a few months and both of them had a longer lasting battery even with Wifi on all day and syncing stuff constantly so it is pretty obvious that Microsoft needs to work on power management in WP7.
I'm using an HTC Trophy and battery laster 13 hours yesterday even after spending most of the day in a 2G-only town. It's not horrible, but could be better.
I've had mine since Saturday and absolutely love it. Killer features for me are the Sharepoint, Exchange and Zune integration. In fact the latter is so good I'll be retiring my iPod and ponying up for a Zune pass when the trial runs out.
Downsides so far have been bloody Orange having two phone masts down in London till the 29th Oct which has made 3g patchy as hell and Twitter occasionally crashing the whole device, and the lack of backgrounding updates in apps. The first is clearly just one of those things (I work in tech support....), and I really hope the latter will be sorted in the next OS update.
I've had/have at various points Windows Mobile 5- 6.5.5 devices, Android 1.5- 2.2 ones and an iPod Touch and can honestly say that WP7 is the most pleasurable to use OS of them all. I'll be keeping my HD2 around for gaming and comics, but my daily phone is totally going to be the HTC Mozart.
Battery life I've had no issue with- seems easily on a par with what I expect from a smartphone.
dude, enable your t-mobile signal sharing thingy
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Talk about basics.... Try connecting to a WiFi network which has ssid broadcast disabled. I dare you to.... You can't. WTF!
Or try and find the mac address for the phone.
And another thing.... What's the point of being able to select a word in the browser when you can't copy and paste...nor does a co text menu able if you tap and hold the selection.
And for the encore... 373Mb downloaded over 3g in about 12 hours...most of which I was asleep! On my desire after a month of exchange and Gmail, downloading apps over 3g all the time I barely use 300mb. Interesting when every app I tried to install failed???
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Word selection is just evidence that 'copy & paste' was in the release plan.
Spybreak said:
Honestly, there is no reason for the Wifi chip to drain that much battery if you're not connected to a network. It might be polling too much on the background and burning through battery life.
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I have an iPhone 4, and it doesn't last through the day if I leave Wi-Fi on accidentally in the morning and move around town during the day a lot. It is never connected but encounters lots of hotspots in the meanwhile. I guess that drains the battery.
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dude, enable your t-mobile signal sharing thingy
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You only get gprs with that- which is really rather slow. I have to say I'm making less and less calls and using more and more data!
Okay, so I signed up for a T-Mobile contract here in the UK the other day, and the free phone on the contract was going to be a Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo. I didn't want this, so I bought a used HTC HD2, and planned to sell the Neo in brand new condition.
But I got a call from T-Mobile today telling me that the Neo has been discontinued, and that they could offer me a Motorola Atrix instead for the same price.
So basically, the HD2 arrives tomorrow, and the Atrix arrives on Monday, but I'm not sure which to keep. I was looking forward to trying out WP7 on the HD2, along with various different Android versions, and being able to compare them all. But at the same time, the Atrix gives me a faster CPU and GPU, more RAM, more internal storage, a higher resolution (but smaller) display, and other cool things. 4G doesn't make a difference since I don't think there are any 4G networks in the UK right now.
Anyway, how easy is it to root and flash custom ROMs with the Atrix (UK version, just called the Atrix instead of the Atrix 4G, if that makes a difference)? I'd quite like to just run a version of Gingerbread as close to stock as possible, because Moto Blur doesn't look great. Also, are there Sense ROMs for the Atrix?
What would you pick - the more flexible HD2 with the slightly larger screen (I love typing on my dad's Galaxy SII, one of the reasons I went for the HD2) or the faster and newer Atrix?
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As much as I respect and favor the HD2 (and HTC in general), I would have to go with the Atrix. Rooting the Atrix is pretty simple. See here: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-root-motorola-atrix-4g-on-android-2-3-4-hktw/ . It's still your decision on which device you want. If you still want to experiment, then go with the HD2. If you want a faster device (like for gaming purposes [although the HD2 does play games pretty well]), then go for the Atrix.
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As much as I respect and favor the HD2 (and HTC in general), I would have to go with the Atrix. Rooting the Atrix is pretty simple. See here: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-root-motorola-atrix-4g-on-android-2-3-4-hktw/ . It's still your decision on which device you want. If you still want to experiment, then go with the HD2. If you want a faster device (like for gaming purposes [although the HD2 does play games pretty well]), then go for the Atrix.
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Hm, it's proving a really difficult decision to make. Of course, I could just sell both the phones and buy something else.
Are there decent ROMs available for the Atrix which provide a more stock Android experience? Also, does it matter that it's not the US AT&T Atrix 4G and rather the UK/European Atrix model? Not sure if that makes a difference with this phone.
Thanks for your reply
It does matter if it's the USA/UK version for roms. It's said that all roms made for the UK Orange Atrix can work for the UK T-mobile one. You could try this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242721 .
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It does matter if it's the USA/UK version for roms. It's said that all roms made for the UK Orange Atrix can work for the UK T-mobile one. You could try this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242721 .
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Oh man, sometimes Android development seems so complicated. It took my a lot of reading to understand everything I needed to know about my G1. Seeing as I've got to make a fairly prompt decision, is there any chance you could summarise it a bit? I know the information will be available elsewhere on the forums but I don't have much time to read it.
What I'm really looking for is a fairly unmodified version of Gingerbread, with pretty much everything working (doubt I'll use the fingerprint scanner though LOL). But I want WiFi, 3G, GPS, the camera, etc. working. The dock functions aren't a biggie either.
Anyway, is there a simple, fairly basic ROM out there that would work for my UK version? Because I found this for the HD2 and I thought it looked awesome.
Thanks
I don't know of any like that for the Atrix. The HD2 has far more roms than the Atrix, with many more customizations, etc. Looks like this could make your choice easier .
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I don't know of any like that for the Atrix. The HD2 has far more roms than the Atrix, with many more customizations, etc. Looks like this could make your choice easier .
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Hm. I should be getting the HD2 tomorrow, and since it's already used I won't have an issue with opening it up and playing around with it over the weekend. So I guess I can form an opinion over the weekend about that, and if I decide that I'd have no use for the extra features of the Atrix, I can sell it once it arrives.
What about this though? Not sure if it would be AT&T only.
EDIT: Wait, that's not actually Gingerbread. Damn.
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Hm. I should be getting the HD2 tomorrow, and since it's already used I won't have an issue with opening it up and playing around with it over the weekend. So I guess I can form an opinion over the weekend about that, and if I decide that I'd have no use for the extra features of the Atrix, I can sell it once it arrives.
What about this though? Not sure if it would be AT&T only.
EDIT: Wait, that's not actually Gingerbread. Damn.
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I got an HD2 used last week for an amazing price. I wanted to try out WP7's Mango release but not lose my data plan by putting my SIM into an AT&T branded device (which happened once and I got fixed).
WP7 works VERY well on the HD2, with the exceptions of extremely poor battery life and that WP7 hijacks the SD card and renders it unusable for other future uses. There is an app that can be sideloaded that will release the SD card though.
Anyway, I played with WP7 for bit and fell in love with it. I couldn't handle the short battery life (tried all of the tricks), so I freed up my SD card and installed CM7's latest Gingerbread 2.3.6. It works fantastically, and with decent battery life.
Where I'm going with this? The HD2 is not an AT&T device. If you have a TMO HD2 and want to unlock it for use on AT&T, you will not be able to use 3G. The two carriers operate on different UMTS bandwidths. That's a bummer.
So, keep that in mind about the HD2. If you don't get a model (non TMOU-US) that has the right 3G bands, you'll miss out on high speed data.
I'm in the process of putting HD2 up for sale and am going to try to get my hands on an ATRIX that I can root and tether with at 4G speeds.
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CM7's latest Gingerbread 2.3.6.
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Gingerbread 2.3.6 is not the latest.
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Gingerbread 2.3.6 is not the latest.
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I didn't say that it was, I said that it was CM7's latest. I did just find a 2.3.7 though, but can't seem to find any CM7 that's higher than that. Am I looking the wrong areas?
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I didn't say that it was, I said that it was CM7's latest. I did just find a 2.3.7 though, but can't seem to find any CM7 that's higher than that. Am I looking the wrong areas?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951 .
anseio said:
I got an HD2 used last week for an amazing price. I wanted to try out WP7's Mango release but not lose my data plan by putting my SIM into an AT&T branded device (which happened once and I got fixed).
WP7 works VERY well on the HD2, with the exceptions of extremely poor battery life and that WP7 hijacks the SD card and renders it unusable for other future uses. There is an app that can be sideloaded that will release the SD card though.
Anyway, I played with WP7 for bit and fell in love with it. I couldn't handle the short battery life (tried all of the tricks), so I freed up my SD card and installed CM7's latest Gingerbread 2.3.6. It works fantastically, and with decent battery life.
Where I'm going with this? The HD2 is not an AT&T device. If you have a TMO HD2 and want to unlock it for use on AT&T, you will not be able to use 3G. The two carriers operate on different UMTS bandwidths. That's a bummer.
So, keep that in mind about the HD2. If you don't get a model (non TMOU-US) that has the right 3G bands, you'll miss out on high speed data.
I'm in the process of putting HD2 up for sale and am going to try to get my hands on an ATRIX that I can root and tether with at 4G speeds.
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I think it's a bit different over here in terms of which 3G bandwidths are used etc. but I'm not sure entirely. If the HD2 doesn't work on 3G then I'll have to find another phone.
I've received it now, anyway. So far it seems awesome - the hardware is excellent, the OS is not, but that will be changed soon enough.
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I think it's a bit different over here in terms of which 3G bandwidths are used etc. but I'm not sure entirely. If the HD2 doesn't work on 3G then I'll have to find another phone.
I've received it now, anyway. So far it seems awesome - the hardware is excellent, the OS is not, but that will be changed soon enough.
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Well, whenever you are ready to change it, you could check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11215136&postcount=8 or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11215136#post11215136 .
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Well, whenever you are ready to change it, you could check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11215136&postcount=8 or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11215136#post11215136 .
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Oh, I was ready to change it from the very beginning.
Currently running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Right now I'm just in the process of changing the boot animation and splash screen to suit my liking. Trying to go for a plain white screen with the green HTC text in the middle all the way through.
ellisbodds said:
Oh, I was ready to change it from the very beginning.
Currently running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Right now I'm just in the process of changing the boot animation and splash screen to suit my liking. Trying to go for a plain white screen with the green HTC text in the middle all the way through.
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Great . So did you make your decision on which to keep so that this thread can be solved?
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Great . So did you make your decision on which to keep so that this thread can be solved?
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Yeah - I'm going to keep the HD2 and sell the Atrix to get more money. Do I need to click somewhere to mark the thread as resolved or is that somebody else's job?
ellisbodds said:
Yeah - I'm going to keep the HD2 and sell the Atrix to get more money. Do I need to click somewhere to mark the thread as resolved or is that somebody else's job?
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Mods can do it, but you could also do it (the normal member way). Just edit your title by placing the word "SOLVED" (in caps) in front of the title.
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Mods can do it, but you could also do it (the normal member way). Just edit your title by placing the word "SOLVED" (in caps) in front of the title.
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Done. Thanks for your help.
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Done. Thanks for your help.
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No problem .
After many months of a friendly rivalry, a coworker and I have decided to swap phones for a week. (We're both on AT&T, so I assume we can just switch sim cards?)
If it were you, what ROM would you put on the phone to allow for the best experience for someone who has never used android before?
I was thinking CM9, but since it has problems with certain games (Temple Run comes to mind, which we both play all the time), that's probably not a good idea. Moreover, the in-call echo would probably leave a bad impression. Then again, I guess I could flash some other modems on my own and see if that solves it.
So, in your opinion: which rom best shows off the advantages of Android compared to iOS?
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After many months of a friendly rivalry, a coworker and I have decided to swap phones for a week. (We're both on AT&T, so I assume we can just switch sim cards?)
If it were you, what ROM would you put on the phone to allow for the best experience for someone who has never used android before?
I was thinking CM9, but since it has problems with certain games (Temple Run comes to mind, which we both play all the time), that's probably not a good idea. Moreover, the in-call echo would probably leave a bad impression. Then again, I guess I could flash some other modems on my own and see if that solves it.
So, in your opinion: which rom best shows off the advantages of Android compared to iOS?
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ICS of some sort without a doubt... Maybe XWLP7?
Perhaps set it up to be Nandroidable between CM9 and a TW ICS firmware - "Here's the way it comes from Samsung, it's almost all working but there are Samsungisms people don't like - and here's CM9 - it's still in development but it's a mostly pure Android 4.0 experience".
How are you guys going to work out the sim/microsim difference?
I wonder if it would work to just swap phones as is, then forward each phone number to the other number.
iPhones use microsim. Completely forgot. Hmm.... I guess that throws a bit of a wrench into our plans.
My wife uses a 4S and I just bought my Galaxy last week. Right now I am using tasks AOKP ICS, but I have to say:
So far i like the UCPLC5 Official ATT "Leak". It has ICS, and the Samsung stuff, and its quite nice. It just feels like more of a polished product than the stock android. If its a real rivalry, don't forget about the brands. I also have a samsung point and shoot camera, and lcd tv, laptop, toaster and ... blah blah...
Have had no issues with games with that rom, only my Amiga emulator. Temple Run, shadowgun, angry birds space, all work great.
blackplague1347 said:
After many months of a friendly rivalry, a coworker and I have decided to swap phones for a week. (We're both on AT&T, so I assume we can just switch sim cards?)
If it were you, what ROM would you put on the phone to allow for the best experience for someone who has never used android before?
I was thinking CM9, but since it has problems with certain games (Temple Run comes to mind, which we both play all the time), that's probably not a good idea. Moreover, the in-call echo would probably leave a bad impression. Then again, I guess I could flash some other modems on my own and see if that solves it.
So, in your opinion: which rom best shows off the advantages of Android compared to iOS?
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SHOstock2 v1.3
Interesting question!
Just don't put MIUI on it. It will confirm any suspicions he may already have that Android is an iOS wannabe.
You can get a microSIM adapter for about $5, or make a DIY adapter that should last a week. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJFPh2oc8hM)
EDIT: Entropy's idea is a good one. Being able to swap via nandroid is in itself a great thing to show off!
There's also a dual boot kernel
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Dual boot and nandroid backup might not be such a good idea, just saying. I would think twice about letting your coworker, who own an iPhone, mess around in cwm. Nothing against iPhone users.
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There's also a dual boot kernel
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That's highly experimental.
+1 for SHOstock. Shoman just posted v2, with lots of improvements.
Depending on the user I would also hesitate going overboard with dual boot stuff. Its really cool feature to have but might be too much for someone's first android experience.
AOKP is really nice too, but I feel there are a few visual inconsistencies that may make it feel incomplete to an outsider. Like the progress bars, the best off hand example is CPU Spy. I think SHOstock gives the best of both. You get the good things about TW and shoman has done a great job themeing it. The one thing isn't intuitive to a first timer is the quick panel settings. You may want to set that up first, or at least make an effort to show your friend what it is referring to.
I'd be instested to hear the results of the swap.
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That's highly experimental.
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I haven't seen problems with it. Have it set up with CM9 as primary and LC5 as secondary.
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Hi, I switched to At&t and the Htc Titan yesterday due to messing my Sprint Evo3d up. I noticed that windows can not do nearly as much as my Android did. Maybe its just me but I knew a whole bunch of stuff that the evo 3d did, now i can't even Skype and text at the same time without being logged out (I Skype like 14 hours a day with my fiance when I'm gone) I'm debating on just fixing my evo because this phone seems to limited. Can anyone tell me anything cool about this phone? Or should i go back and get the Atrix? I do like the fact this has a pretty awesome keyboard and pretty big screen. And I'm like in the middle of knowing technology stuff (I know the basics and a bit more but am by far not a master, especially on windows lol.) I want to give this phone a chance but I'm disappointed with the market and having to watch like everything through Zune.
NikkiBlasphemy said:
Hi, I switched to At&t and the Htc Titan yesterday due to messing my Sprint Evo3d up. I noticed that windows can not do nearly as much as my Android did. Maybe its just me but I knew a whole bunch of stuff that the evo 3d did, now i can't even Skype and text at the same time without being logged out (I Skype like 14 hours a day with my fiance when I'm gone) I'm debating on just fixing my evo because this phone seems to limited. Can anyone tell me anything cool about this phone? Or should i go back and get the Atrix? I do like the fact this has a pretty awesome keyboard and pretty big screen. And I'm like in the middle of knowing technology stuff (I know the basics and a bit more but am by far not a master, especially on windows lol.) I want to give this phone a chance but I'm disappointed with the market and having to watch like everything through Zune.
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Well first of all, I am going to tell you only a few things here. Other Titan owners can give you the low down on some more things later.
Skype works differently on WP than on Android and iphone. Here is an article why...if you don't understand the article...I will explain it further.
http://www.wpcentral.com/understanding-skype’s-limitations-windows-phone
As for the Titan, personally I like it compared to my previous phones running Android and .. the iphone.
The user interface is much more smoother IMO than the latest and greatest Android phone plus I definitely think the iphone has a dull user interface going on there.
Apps are mostly what everyone complains about when they switch over to WP. However, there are many MANY apps that are third - party that will do the same exact thing as a well-known app on Android/Iphone. For example, (Pandora Radio (no official app on WP) however, we have MetroRadio/WPFandora/RadioControlled that will do the same exact thing. Words With Friends (lol, most people complain about this the most) ...we have Words By Post that will work on Android/Iphone/and WP)
OS Updates/Manufacture Updates-As you know, you are on the most horrid cell phone carrier on the planet when it comes to these. However, I do expect us to receive updates fairly shortly to the latest firmware/and operating system soon. I don't really know if we will get WP8 or not. I don't think Microsoft really knows just yet. -And I cannot give you an expected release date, as ATT does not have a release date yet. But if you wanted to you could push the latest OS yourself manually from your computer. (I am low on time, but if you wanted a link, I could post a link on where/how to do this later).
I will post more later...possibly...
I will disagree verizon was the worst i have used i have at&t and have no complaints
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NikkiBlasphemy said:
Hi, I switched to At&t and the Htc Titan yesterday due to messing my Sprint Evo3d up. I noticed that windows can not do nearly as much as my Android did. Maybe its just me but I knew a whole bunch of stuff that the evo 3d did, now i can't even Skype and text at the same time without being logged out (I Skype like 14 hours a day with my fiance when I'm gone) I'm debating on just fixing my evo because this phone seems to limited. Can anyone tell me anything cool about this phone? Or should i go back and get the Atrix? I do like the fact this has a pretty awesome keyboard and pretty big screen. And I'm like in the middle of knowing technology stuff (I know the basics and a bit more but am by far not a master, especially on windows lol.) I want to give this phone a chance but I'm disappointed with the market and having to watch like everything through Zune.
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Yes, Zune is a bit limited; but the phone works great. I understand that if you had in-depth knowledge of Android you'd like to keep in it; but this OS works great with a lot less hardware; for example HTC one has four cores, to run ICS in a good way, WP are single core only, and they work very smoothly.
I think you should see the videos from one of the replies.
Regards!
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
erikmarko said:
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
HMZX said:
Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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Google Now & Project Butter
erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
Slymayer said:
I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
balintmaci said:
smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
blueglide said:
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
erikmarko said:
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.