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605.5
HTC Thundebolt
1.04.0000 hboot
1.48.00.0930w_3 radio
Revolutionary s-off
Rev CWM v4.0.1.4
Stock ROM
I have tried to flash a Rom (i.e. Eternity, XDABolt, iKReaM,) and nothing seems to work.It just keeps going from the HTC White Screen to the ROM Boot screens and Back to the HTC White Screen. I Have Completely went thru the HBoot and deleted everything that was offered. I deleted the Cache and the Dalvik. I deleted everything that the HBoot had as a option to delete. I did this between each one of the Flashes. I have deleted everything on my SD Card. The only thing that is working is the Stock ROM. I have downgraded to 605.5. I am at a loss. I tried to re-run Revolutionary but its keeps telling
"WHat are you doing you are already S-Off" or something simuliar lol. I have been reading the forums now for the last three days hoping to see if there has been a problem like mine. but I have not seen anything. Is there anyone who may know what I am doing wrong?
Your version of cwm. Needs to change. The current one is 5. Something. So you need to change it. Then t will work
silver03wrx said:
Your version of cwm. Needs to change. The current one is 5. Something. So you need to change it. Then t will work
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When I click on the D/L link for Rev it is only giving me Ver. 4.0Pre4. There is no update. Do you a link to get Ver.5?
Right here is the link http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g1z951o99mc4f35
Here is the thread its in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386
silver03wrx said:
Right here is the link http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g1z951o99mc4f35
Here is the thread its in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386
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Thank You for finding this Post. I am finding it harder and harder to "find" post here on XDA. There is SOOOO much information here and after 5 or 6 hours of reading, the feeling of being overwhelmed starts to set in. I came from a rooted Samsung Moment. That was the last phone I rooted. When I did that, I believed Roms where called Kitchens lol. So I do apperciate the help. Thank You.
No problem just ht that thanks button
This is my first time trying to ask help on the forums, considering i've never run across a issue of this magnitude with my HTC Evo 4g before. So please do try to help me out if its in the wrong thread, etc..
Anywho onto the problem
im not sure how to classify my problem
I have a htc evo 4g rooted, Via revolutionary method, im not sure if this plays a part in causing my htc evo 4g to reboot randomly every 1-5minutes.
This problem only comes up when i flash any other rom on my device. I first tried flashing Fresh Evo 4.3.3and after 1-5 minutes of use my phone goes into a reboot mode (when i attempt to download anything through market place, or heck i leave the phone idle).
I had also tried flashing the MikGinger - Re-Eng GB Sense (3/9/2012)
I did wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
and also wipe dalvik cache 3x before each rom install.
This definitely didnt help what so ever. What my issue is, is that the stock rom (root enabled) android 2.3.3 functions perfectly fine but every other rom i attempt to flash works to the extent of 1-5 minutes idle or not. It forces a reboot. Oh and the kernel used on the android 2.3.3 rom is freedom-v0.8.5-UNIVERSAL-signed.zip Its the only kernel that runs stably on my htc evo 4g, enabling tethering, and full scale rooting, with semi stable functionality
Heres the current stock recovery menu version when i hold down Power and +volume
-Revolutionary-
SUPERSONIC EV2T2-3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT-6.16.1002
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANE-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.00.05.02
Mar 8 2011, 17:02:15
i also have clockworkmod Recovery v5.0.2.2 installed.
*Notes*
I always make nandroid backups, and i keep multiple ones backed up on the pc and phone for just incase measures like this one.
Im unable to diagnose what exactly my phones malfunction is so anyone who can provide useful info on how to diagnose the problem please do give me some advice, as everything else i've tried so far has failed (flashing, unrooting, re-rooting revolutionary method).
I'd also appreciate any advice that doesn't point me towards unrooting again and returning my device (as this is the 2nd htc evo 4g i have gone through, and the sprint repair center techs are idiots as far as im concerned. Their replacement htc evo's come shipped out refurbed and updated hboot which is harder to root and the stories go on and on.)
Try switching to Amon Ra recovery. You can use the original version - latest version is 2.3, or use the Amon Ra style recovery, I believe that the latest version is 3.11. Flash one of those as PC36IMG.zip via hboot.
From there, wipe everything except the SD card and battery stats, then flash whichever rom you want. Don't flash a kernel, just let it boot up and sit for at least five minutes. Then flash whatever mods you want to flash.
Hopefully it's just that things aren't being wiped properly - CWM is known for this on the Evo. Wiping system and boot via Amon Ra will hopefully get you on the right track.
If not, Evos can have a reboot issue that requires a replacement. Unfortunately if it doesn't do it on the stock rom then reproducible the problem for Sprint may be difficult. Hopefully it won't come to that.
alright ill give it a go, i did a system restore, and rolled back my phone to android 2.3.3 I'll try doing amon recovery later on tomorrow or come sunday. I need my phone to be in a operable stat to function for work. I'll be sure to post my results though. In the mean time if you can post a link (i dont mean to be lazy) just im heading to bed now.
And yes it is hard to reproduce errors for sprint techs. They think all it requires is a simple factory reset, and then install the most up to date RUU and it fixes the problem. If anything it makes the problem worse, as this is what happened with my first htc evo 4g (from launch). Except it caused the phone into a hard core brick like state. it literally locked you out of every function but dialing 911.
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Forgot to mention i updated my
-Revolutionary-
SUPERSONIC EV2T2-3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT-6.16.1002
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANE-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.00.05.02
Mar 8 2011, 17:02:15
to
-Revolutionary-
SUPERSONIC EV2T2-3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT-6.16.1002
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANE-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.00.12.19
Mar 8 2011, 17:02:15
(Just the radio was updated, updating radio did more than enhance signal quality it also broke some system functions, and alleviated other issues like glitchy rebooting bugs).
Its notable that after re-installing a backup of my android 2.3.3 alot of things restored broken (Broken links, that a fix permissions wouldnt fix), so i did another
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
wipe dalvik cache
from within CWM. (Im still surprised i havent borked my RSA keys yet, from the 39 times i have attempted reflashing both fresh & mikginger{Regardless a new rsa key backup was made})
{Question, since i have 2 RSA key backups, one from my original HTC EVO 4g, can i use them on the new device, or flash it to another 3g/4g enabled hotspot considering it is a active and available key? Or will it only function on the htc Evo 4g it was binded with (MAC address wise?) I havent tested it yet, and i dont know if ill set off red-flags. Hence the question.}
Then restored the phone, i noticed alot of things changed, like suddenly a vast majority of quirky reboots disappeared (Overclocking cpu suddenly doesnt cause a forced reboot if overclock is left to long due to overheat, it instead stalls and then crashes sense, and functions again instead of rebooting) a very nice improvement.
I've almost reinstalled everything through titanium backup, but only certain programs, im trying the one by one install, method, and seeing if this will beable to be upgraded to fresh 4.3.3 because if it can, then ill be a happy camper. Till then, ill explore your option, and if it backfires ill continue testing out my new fresh install of android 2.3.3 (rooted), with ICQ removed, and 98% of the stock apps removed. See how far i can get on getting my phone to run like android 2.3.2 the most stable android os i have ever run
(I dont want to restore my android 2.3.2 backup though to buggy, the only qirk was the texting bug and dialer bug, if its possible to port over the 2.3.3 updates to the text bug, and dialer bug, please do tell me as attempting to install from 2.3.3 into 2.3.2 tends to make the system run into a endless boot on 2.3.2)
I'm getting ready to head to work, but I just wanted to let you know to NOT restore a wimax backup from one phone to another. Toss it, it has no use now.
Amon Ra is in the Evo Development section. If I have time later tonight at work I'll post the link, but for now I gotta run. I will check back in with you though.
plainjane said:
I'm getting ready to head to work, but I just wanted to let you know to NOT restore a wimax backup from one phone to another. Toss it, it has no use now.
Amon Ra is in the Evo Development section. If I have time later tonight at work I'll post the link, but for now I gotta run. I will check back in with you though.
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Do you mean install this version of Amon Ra? Just to clarify Amon Ra and CWM have their own ways of making a full backup, and i cannot just restore a backup made with CWM via Amon Ra, or can i? Im new to using Amon Ra, as i never trusted it much (to worried it may cause more harm than good, as im more use to using CWM)
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Yep i tried Amon Ra, it didnt work. I tried reflashing Fresh 4.3.3 2x and it ended it the same 1-5minute idle or not before reboot failure, same with MikGinger - Re-Eng GB Sense (3/9/2012). Nothing works but the stock roms with SU added in. I tried with my android 2.3.3 backup, and android 2.3.2. It seems my phone is incapable of working on android 4.3.3 but it works on all previous builds. It makes no sense to me though why it is like this, anyone think they can explain as to whats going on exactly with my phone?
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Do you mean install this version of Amon Ra? Just to clarify Amon Ra and CWM have their own ways of making a full backup, and i cannot just restore a backup made with CWM via Amon Ra, or can i? Im new to using Amon Ra, as i never trusted it much (to worried it may cause more harm than good, as im more use to using CWM)
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Yep i tried Amon Ra, it didnt work. I tried reflashing Fresh 4.3.3 2x and it ended it the same 1-5minute idle or not before reboot failure, same with MikGinger - Re-Eng GB Sense (3/9/2012). Nothing works but the stock roms with SU added in. I tried with my android 2.3.3 backup, and android 2.3.2. It seems my phone is incapable of working on android 4.3.3 but it works on all previous builds. It makes no sense to me though why it is like this, anyone think they can explain as to whats going on exactly with my phone?
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I think it might be that you needed to update your radio and that fixed some things, but also I notice that your HBOOT version is not the right version. that version is only used to downgrade so you can gain s-off. use the hboots in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
try that and see if it works
I just rooted my new HTC EVO LTE phone recently because I had to get a new one. Any way, after rooting it, I imminently made a nandroid back up. Then I flashed a few different roms and recoverys. However, what I found out is after I flash a new rom, my wifi says error and won't turn on. I'm not sure what the problem is. And yes, I cleared everything out before flashing a new rom. However, what is even more interesting is I can use my recovery that I made after rooting my phone to go back to the stock rom and it has no trouble with the wifi. I'm not sure why I'm getting this error or how to fix it.
I've thought about flashing some new radios, but I've had issues in the past with this phone trying to make it S-Off, so as a result it is currently S-On. I would like it to be S-off, but after having a lot of experience with it, I've learned it is very time consuming to do and it is a pain to get it to work, it almost always bricks my phone and then I have to go unbrick it in Linux.
I'm planning on running through the rooting method again to see if that does anything, but I'm doubtful. I've also tried updating the prl, profile, firmware and HTC software with no luck. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks.
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I just rooted my new HTC EVO LTE phone recently because I had to get a new one. Any way, after rooting it, I imminently made a nandroid back up. Then I flashed a few different roms and recoverys. However, what I found out is after I flash a new rom, my wifi says error and won't turn on. I'm not sure what the problem is. And yes, I cleared everything out before flashing a new rom. However, what is even more interesting is I can use my recovery that I made after rooting my phone to go back to the stock rom and it has no trouble with the wifi. I'm not sure why I'm getting this error or how to fix it.
I've thought about flashing some new radios, but I've had issues in the past with this phone trying to make it S-Off, so as a result it is currently S-On. I would like it to be S-off, but after having a lot of experience with it, I've learned it is very time consuming to do and it is a pain to get it to work, it almost always bricks my phone and then I have to go unbrick it in Linux.
I'm planning on running through the rooting method again to see if that does anything, but I'm doubtful. I've also tried updating the prl, profile, firmware and HTC software with no luck. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks.
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S-OFF is really the way to go if it's still an option for you it's the only way to get the new firmware without relocking and taking the OTA then unlocking and rooting again read post 2 in the lazypanda thread found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123 just go down the list and verify everything works before running lazypanda there are plenty of members that subscribe to that thread so there is plenty of help availiable
Also, rerooting won't do anything. You're already rooted? Think the problem is in the rom u installed. Possibly a bad download. Try downloading from a good connection and install it again. If it is close to stock like flex's stock w goodies just clear cache and dalvik in recovery.
And what do u mean u tried a few recoveries? Cwm doesnt work well with the evo LTE. Try twrp 2.2 and leave it alone until its updated again.
What is your hboot? What rom did you try flashing?
Sent from my lair.
Im also getting this issue and i know its not anything to do with rooting and all that since ive been rooted since i picked this up from best buy on preorder release day and ive been flashing and running the same rom and mods forever now also i was using wifi yesterday soooo yea lol
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First, I don't believe I can make my phone S-off, because it has software version 2.13.651.1 710Rd on it and even though I do have a nandroid back on 1.13 hboot, for the default rom from a long time ago with my old HTC EVO LTE, I can't flash back a hboot to 1.13 so I believe I'm stuck S-On for now. Let me know if I'm wrong.
I've attempted several different roms including fresh rom 5.1.1, viper4G_1.0.0, and a jelly bean rom (cm-cfX-20120904-OFFICIAL-jewel all with the same problem. As for recoverys, I should have said I've tried restoring back to several different nandroid backups that I created in the past that were working just find with my old HTC EVO LTE.
Right now my phone is unlocked and rooted. I am running H Boot-1.19.000, I am S-On, and Radio-1.12.11.0809.
I know this problem has something to do with flashing new roms, because when I do a nandroid back up to the default rom, I don't have this problem, and the wifi is working great, I only have this problem if I try to flash any custom rom or use a nandroid backup that I made with my old HTC EVO LTE.
Again, this is not my first time around the track with an HTC EVO LTE, this just happens to be a new phone that I recently got from Sprint when they were thinking my dropped calls were caused by my phone when in fact they figured out they had a tower down. Since then, the tower is back up, so that is why I just rooted this new phone they gave me.
Let me know if you have any suggestions or if you need anymore information.
It's been while now, and I haven't gotten a real response back yet, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything that will help me out? Thanks.
Edit: Found out that I simply needed to flash the boot.img manually of what ever custom rom that I want to switch to in order to get around being S-On.
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It's been while now, and I haven't gotten a real response back yet, and I was wondering if anyone knows anything that will help me out? Thanks.
Edit: Found out that I simply needed to flash the boot.img manually of what ever custom rom that I want to switch to in order to get around being S-On.
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Hey im having the same exact issue I however went back to my stock backup from right after I rooted. The issue I had was I flashed a CMX nightly. I had been running them fine and suddenly everything went haywire i was bootlooping but only after about 30 seconds after the rom would load up. I'd have just under a minute to fish around and the it would reboot again. it was in this short window that I saw the wifi error and that it would not connect to the sprint network at all for voice or data. Im S-On Hboot 1.15 Evo LTE. I used Flash GUI to go from Stock sense to CMX as im sure youve figured out you have to do. Since i had backups of previous CMX nightlies I tried to just restore But none of my nandroids would fix the looping issue I managed to flash the boot img from the CMX rom i was previously on through adb/fastboot and it took but still my device kept looping. Finally i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917106 but I didn't have any Sense Based Roms only my Stock Nandroid back up. So i used the Boot Image Flasher Tool, it took, then Instead of rebooting the system I went straight to my custom recovery and restored my Stock Sense BackUp since the tool flashes the stock sense kernel. To my relief the phone booted right up no problem connected to the network and all but to my dissmay the wifi is STILL broken somehow it says error and will not switch on. Everything else seems to be working fine though. This is crucial there is no way I can go without wifi on my phone. I don't want to ruin anything further or permanitely but i do plan to move forward. My plan is to download a sense rom (MeanRom) which im doing now but it's taking forever on 3G. Wipe everything (using TWRP 2.2) Data Dav rom and use super wipe, and try to install MeanRom. If anyone has any other suggestions Im all ears. Also im alittle confused on the Hboot kernel limitations I know I have to use Flash GUI if Im going from a sense Rom to Aosp and vise versa but do I have to use it when say Going to a nandroid backup of a sense rom while currently on a Aosp rom because I couldnt find a boot.img file in my backup file when i used the tool to extract it. I hate S-On HTC really screwed us with this. And I hate my original evo which had S-Off for dying on me on the 15th day and me having to get this replacement with 1.15 im sorry guys I love this phone but it has become a nightmare and the Evo 3D was no walk in the park either. I apprectiate any comment from anyone this is the first time in almost 8 years of hacking I've been truely worried I may not be able to fix something.
Try this....had the same problem during one of my flashing sessions from rom to rom...this fixed it for me.
You also might want to try a different rom with its corresponding boot img. I'm currently running Venom rom with its boot img file and its working great. Right now, it sounds like your kernel is what is giving you problems like mine, so flashing the correct boot img should fix it.
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Try this....had the same problem during one of my flashing sessions from rom to rom...this fixed it for me.
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Thank you I'll be sure to try this out quick update, in TWRP recovery I had (force MD5 check on all zips?) checked now I don't remember checking it or if it came checked by default but as soon as I unchecked it I was able to run superwipe and flash MeanRom which both failed multiple times when it was checked on. Not sure if this was the cause of my problem but I agree I think I got a bad kernel in the CMX nightly. Either that or the Flash GUI app didnt exract the boot image properly. Either way I haven't been brave enough to try another AOSP rom man I hate having S-On my first Evo was perfect then I get stuck with this locked down replacement. One question though is that boot image for a stock/sense rom just wanna be sure.
vel7wil's advice worked for me I was having the same issue. Download the zip he recommends. Use flash image gui to flash the kernel and clear dalvik and cache. I just did a standard reboot after that and it said "android updating... apps x of xx" then everything was back to working.
Well I went away the the dark side for a while.. yeah i know.. I needed to try it. The Iphone was good but now im back to my EVo 4g LTE.
The only problem is i feel like a god damn noob again! So much has been updated since ive been gone that i feel like im lost in a maze and every corner i turn, every .zip i try to flash is a dead end.
I need to update my Baseband and everything that goes along with it. I wanted to Flash Mikey's MeanBean but I cant until i do so.
Here are my Specs. after I was able to flash rEVOLTED from Swaggster
S-Off
PRI Version 2.28_003
PRL Version 25006
Baseband Version 1.02.12.0427
Build Number 3.15.651
SDK API Level 4.63
Sense 4+
Android Version 4.1.1
Any Help On how to update would be great. I've spent the past 2 days searching and everything ive tried is not working. I'm starting to get really Frustrated.
Thanks Everyone
-Patt
Since your s-off its simple. Use the file here which will update your radio and firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045935 under firmware that says no kernel, no hboot, no recovery. This is not flashed in recovery but in bootlader. There is a link in the post if you are unsure how/what that means. After that download your rom of choice and flash away.
This should point you in the right direction
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078573
[Q] : Want to load latest JB update, and just had a few questions
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Go to the thread in the link below. Download the firmware in the first link under 'Firmware Downloads'. Put the file on your external SD card and rename the file PJ75IMG.zip. Reboot to your bootloader, then select 'Bootloader', at which time the bootloader should scan for the PJ75IMG.zip and ask if you want to update. Select yes and wait for the update to complete. This will get you the newest PRI and radio. Then you can go flash MeanBean
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2045935
Sent using my HTC EVO LTE and a magic wand
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Well I went away the the dark side for a while.. yeah i know.. I needed to try it. The Iphone was good but now im back to my EVo 4g LTE.
The only problem is i feel like a god damn noob again! So much has been updated since ive been gone that i feel like im lost in a maze and every corner i turn, every .zip i try to flash is a dead end.
I need to update my Baseband and everything that goes along with it. I wanted to Flash Mikey's MeanBean but I cant until i do so.
Here are my Specs. after I was able to flash rEVOLTED from Swaggster
S-Off
PRI Version 2.28_003
PRL Version 25006
Baseband Version 1.02.12.0427
Build Number 3.15.651
SDK API Level 4.63
Sense 4+
Android Version 4.1.1
Any Help On how to update would be great. I've spent the past 2 days searching and everything ive tried is not working. I'm starting to get really Frustrated.
Thanks Everyone
-Patt
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36186108&postcount=3 this will update your firmware to the JB OTA
Put the file on your ext sdcard and go into bootloader and it will ask you to update follow the instructions
once you reboot delete it from your sdcard
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Damn I'm to slow haha you guys rock
**** tits i love you guys, i go away for 5 minutes come back and have all these answers. im gonna get going on them now. Thanks Guys!!
So I updated everything, Saved the File as PJ75IMG (Windows automatically saves ZIP files as .Zip, somethings are starting to come back to me =D)
Bootloader recognized it.
Bootloader:"Would you like to start update?"
Vol. Up = Yes
Vol. Down = No
Me: Volume up
Bootloader: "Updating..." (went through and updated everything)
Bootloader: "Press PWR to Reboot"
Me: "PWR"
Baseband Version 1.12.1119!
Thanks Guys!!!
Hello everyone.
I own an HTC EVO V 4G, which I have come to understand is practically identical to the 3D.
I went ahead and did the simple(ish) bootloader unlock process through HTC Dev, and had my phone rooted for at least a year now, tried a few S-ON capable roms, the usual mild rooting stuff, etc etc....
Much more recently, I decided that some of these S-OFF roms make my Unsensible rom look pretty old, and tried out the whole Wire Trick method through unlimited IO.
After a solid 3 hours of staring at my laptop screen....
I rebooted into the bootloader with that glorious S-OFF overtop.
As you might understand... I was very eager to install one of those amazing roms, and downloaded and tried installing the PACman rom for the EVO 3D, admittedly (and regrettably!!) rushing a bit :/
So, after flashing and rebooting, I was stuck in a bootloop with PACman's boot screen. I tried rebooting back into recovery through bootloader (pull out battery, volume down + power, reboot into 4ext recovery) and wiping everything except SD-card, re-installing the ROM, with no success.
At that point I was frustrated enough, to the point where I ended up trying anything I thought might have the slightest chance of giving me my long-awaited rom.
I don't remember what I did exactly, but I flashed a few more files, actually modified the updater-script in the ROM zip.... :/
And now I'm stuck at that White n' Green HTC boot logo, it does not reboot, just stays on constantly, laughing at my hours of fruitless labor.
I can boot into the bootloader whenever with a battery pull, go into 4ext with no troubles.
I have a backup of stock rom, but after whatever I did... Everything I have tried gives me the same results.
I've spent literally the past 9 hours trying to fix this thing, stayed up all night because I need it for the day, and the next day, and the next day...
I tried using the RUU, but I have taken both OTA updates, and even when I finally did get it to start up and run, it denies me almost instantly...
Some device specifics:
I am using linux (Ubuntu).
I own an HTC EVO V 4G (shooter)
I used to run 4.0.4 stock ROM.
Switched to Unsensible (with no issues before S-OFF)
Using 4ext recovery.
Currently on JuopunutBear HBOOT-1.57.5757.
Radio is 1.09.00.0108.
Last ROM I tried flashing before giving up in fear of throwing my phone was PACman.
A few weird things... That scare me a bit...
I can put anything on my SD-card from Ubuntu fine through 4ext's USB function, but everything I do doesn't "stick"...
As in... I put a PG861IMG on the root, see it stay on the root in Ubuntu's file manager, but then boot into bootloader and it doesn't register that there is one.
This is just one example, any other files I transfer over don't take either.
I've been using another phone (I think it's an ancient EVO 4G (Not an EVO V 4G))
I us that one to hold the SD card, and things transfer fine on that one, so I don't think it's the SD card.
If anyone can give me a miracle reply that will save my whole life, you have no idea how appreciative I would be.
Thank you in advance to any replies and/or advice and/or suggestions, etc...
I'm not 100% sure where to put this explanation/plea for help, so... I put it here for one.
I apologise if there's somewhere It'd fit better.