Hello everyone!
I come from these two threads: 'Sim card and boot loops' and 'Help - waiting for device and bootloop'...
This time I'm puzzled about the status of my flyer. After unlocking it at htcdev.com I noticed that it's *** unlocked *** and S-ON at the same time.
What does it mean? Or what's the different between the two? And what impact does it have on installing costum roms?
Don't thank me thank globatron these are his comments
Q: What does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: Full read/write access to all useful partitions.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: The ability to flash custom roms without flashing boot images from booted android.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: The ability to have custom software without having to waive your warranty.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: The ability to install any regional ROMS without a goldcard.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: Greedy much? What else do you want?
Q: Can I return to S-ON for warranty purposes?
A: Yes, a procedure will be in post 3 when I get to it, if you ask in the thread I will not answer this question.
Q: Why do I have to S-OFF in GB before going to HC?
A: Because that's where the exploit works, once we have access to hboot in any version we can patch hboots for later releases.
Well thank you for directing me to globatron words on the subject.
this is globaltron thread u can check it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
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A few questions:
What is "S-on"? I see it a lot but don't know what that is?
And lastly, I would like to fool proof my flyer potentially from future bricking. What should I install/do (general steps...don't go into detail as I'll figure that out). I just upgraded from a nook colour and "mastered" hacking that device.
No way to guarantee you will not brick. But relatively hard to do, especially if you read instructions. As to s off here is some asnwers from the hc s off thread by globatron
Q: What does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: Full read/write access to all useful partitions.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: The ability to flash custom roms without flashing boot images from booted android.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: The ability to have custom software without having to waive your warranty.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: The ability to install any regional ROMS without a goldcard.
Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?
A: Greedy much? What else do you want?
Q: Can I return to S-ON for warranty purposes?
A: Yes, a procedure will be in post 3 when I get to it, if you ask in the thread I will not answer this question.
Q: Why do I have to S-OFF in GB before going to HC?
A: Because that's where the exploit works, once we have access to hboot in any version we can patch hboots for later releases.
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Hi everyone,
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs and kernels on Samsung phones and variety of Android tablets. This is my first HTC device so I'm a little unsure of my options. I've spent the past week going through many threads using the search but I'm somewhat lost. Can you describe each term and its benefits with one or two lines?
Unlock/lock bootloader? Is this equivalent to installing CWM?
Hboot?
S-on/off?
SuperCID?
fastboot?
And finally, what is 'root' in the context of everything above?
Sorry about the confusion. I've never run into these things while messing around with Samsung phones. ANY help is appreciated. Thanks.
tintn00 said:
Hi everyone,
I've rooted and installed custom ROMs and kernels on Samsung phones and variety of Android tablets. This is my first HTC device so I'm a little unsure of my options. I've spent the past week going through many threads using the search but I'm somewhat lost. Can you describe each term and its benefits with one or two lines?
Unlock/lock bootloader? Is this equivalent to installing CWM?
Hboot?
S-on/off?
SuperCID?
fastboot?
And finally, what is 'root' in the context of everything above?
Sorry about the confusion. I've never run into these things while messing around with Samsung phones. ANY help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's ok, I was in your shoes a few months back. Here's an explanation of everything to the best of my understanding.
Bootloader - I would say this is kinda like the equivalent of a BIOS on a computer. You can access the bootloader by holding Volume Down + Power when your phone is off. With a locked bootloader, you can't really do much to your phone except for flashing stock rom images. You'll need an unlocked bootloader to root/flash roms. No, this is not the same thing as CWM recovery.
Hboot - The version and type of your bootloader. For example, there's ENG, SHIP, and JuopunutBear. Latest version is JBear's 1.93.2222 (I think).
S-on/off - This property is associated with your bootloader. Most phones come with s-on to "protect" end-users from messing up their phones. With s-off, you get much more freedom to customize your phone however you like, such as flashing your own splash screen, radio, etc.
SuperCID - after obtaining s-off, you can SuperCID your device to flash any carrier's rom you like. For example, an Amaze on the Telus/Wind network can take advantage of TMobile's ICS leak.
Fastboot - I don't have the best understanding of what this is yet, but it is an option in the bootloader, and there are adb commands that use fastboot. I think it gives you the ability to turn off and on your phone quickly? Someone can correct me on this if I'm wrong.
Root - gives you root access/permissions. For example, you'll need to root your phone if you want to use some apps that requires root (4ext, lucky patcher, root explorer)
@XDA Amaze community - If I'm wrong on anything, please correct me. Also, please add anything that I might have missed.
Thanks for your help!
I have one more question. I am currently on CWM, Android Revolution (latest with ICS leak), and S-on. If I want to undervolt or overclock my CPU, will I need a custom kernel, S-off, or what?
On other phones, I'd just need a custom kernal and rom that support overclock. I'm not sure how HTC phones work regarding this.
tintn00 said:
Thanks for your help!
I have one more question. I am currently on CWM, Android Revolution (latest with ICS leak), and S-on. If I want to undervolt or overclock my CPU, will I need a custom kernel, S-off, or what?
On other phones, I'd just need a custom kernal and rom that support overclock. I'm not sure how HTC phones work regarding this.
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same, we need a custom kernal for O/C and U/C to work right
I have managed to downgrade and run revolutionary to achieve a off using the htc unlock method and am halfway through upgrading to hc from HB retaining S-OFF what I was wondering is what do I have to do to upgrade to Jb can I just use dexters Jb rom and flash it using cwm?
It says I need to flash boot image separately? Does that mean I need to remove these from the zip before flashing and then flash them through the boot loader? As I have a wifi flyer is there anything else I have to do
Another question is I have wifi flyer so how can I remove phone ui?
Final question if I want to love to a different Rom what steps would I need to take? Sorry If I'm asking silly questions but this device is far more fiddley for installing custom than my previous device ( htc legend) also any suggestions of roms would be appreciated
Thanks XD
Hello all,
I am fairly new to this whole rooting business so a few questions:
1) been doing some reading and found out that the best way to root htc devices and especially my htc flyer is using the s'off method. Please correct me if i am wrong. Also, is there a simple guide I can follow to root my flyer?
2) I am currently running the default android version 3.2.1 and would like to upgrade to the latest jelly bean 4.1 or 4.2. Is there a clean non bloated ROM out there that I can use? The best one i've come across is the [ROM][10-feb-13][PEN/WIFI][JellyBean/4.1.1] DextersJB.
3) The htc flyer wifi version is a tablet only device (no phone calls possible) wit it also remain that way after install a custom rom?
Thanks in advance!
ABH83
1) What hboot version? If your hboot version is supported, you can S-off using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709
If you are hboot 1.11.0011 (seems common on here lately) then you might check this out (can't personally vouch for it): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070140
Otherwise, you will have to settle for S-on and bootloader unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881748
That's correct that S-off is better. With S-on and bootloader unlock, you have to flash boot.img (kernel) separately with fastboot every time you flash a custom ROM.
2) I personally haven't used any of the ICS and JB custom ROMs, as all of them have at least some hardware elements that don't completely work. But Dexters has always looked pretty good. I think NexusFlyer is the only other JB custom ROM.
3) Your device doesn't have the hardware to work on a cell network, so it won't be able to make cell phone calls, no matter what you do to it on the software side. Of course, you can use internet calling service like Skype over WiFi networks. But that is probably not what you are talking about.
Hi, thanks for passing by. I'm pretty new here so please do tell me if I do anything bad/wrong. (I don't know why I use this much grammar as a 12 year old.. Meh, i'm probably just used to it that's why.)
So why am I here and why did I create an account? Simple, I needed quite some help with my Evo 3D. (that I somehow randomly found in my house lol) Okay so yeah, here I go.
What I need help with:
1. Knowing if it's a "GSM" or "CDMA". (I think it's a GSM, cause someone posted this and my Evo 3D's inside looks exactly the same as the GSM one shown.)
2. S-OFF-ing it. (As i'm seriously confused on what to exactly do would be the best.)
3. Rooting it. (Optional, as I already know KingRoot and other rooting apps.)
About phone:
Phone name - HTC EVO 3D X515m
IMEI - 356871041413398
IMSI - 466056001480413
Android version - 4.0.3
HTC Sense version - 3.6
Software number - 3.28.921.3
Kernel version - "3.0.16-ge733189" "[email protected] #1" "SMP PREEMPT"
Baseband version - 11.77.3504.00U_11.25.3504.06_M
Build number - "3.28.921.3" "CL388707" "release-keys"
Current HBoot "stuff":
*** UNLOCKED ***
SHOOTER_U PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.53.0007
eMMC-boot
May 22 2012,01:06:07
If I didn't put some kind of other information about my device or stuff, please tell me and I shall give it.
FAQ:
Are you sure about this?
- Yes, i'm sure to do what it takes to get a successful root on my Evo 3D.
Do you know the consequences if you make a mistake?
- Of course, warranty void, might brick device etcetera..
Did you do any modifications?
- Yes, I did factory reset and unlocked bootloader using the HTC Dev thingys.
Did you backup?
- No, as I don't really mind losing my apps and stuff. Which then I can just install them again whenever I wish.
Why?
- Is it neccesary to tell you the reason why I wanna root it?
Any help would be appreciated. ~ X4R
Nevermind
Right, so I won't be needing any help with this now. As i've rooted it without having to get S-OFF.