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im going to be in australia for the next few months, and im looking into what phone im going to use there.
Its tough, because ive grown attached to having all the toys on my verizon xv6800, and dont want to go back to a standard phone.
Is it at all possible to get my titan to work on an Australian network? if not, can anyone point me in the direction of some information about other international phone options?
if anyone on here is from australia please let me know, i'd love to get in touch and get whatever information i can about plans and other info.
im open to any suggestions or other options for what i can do about a useful phone in australia.
Thanks alot
Entirely different radio and chip structures
well, you can always use your xv6800 just not to make calls. WiFi and GPS would work, you'd have no cell signal.
So, I suggest carrying 2 devices or searching online or picking up a GSM HTC smart phone. The Tilt/Kaiser Raphael (Touch Pro GSM) and the Blackstone / Touch HD and so many more cooler new devices will work in Australlia. However, some of those things are costly and you could natively use an older HTC phone.
You could buy an unlocked phone and just put a sim in there when you arrive.
The 2 main questions are what do you want to spend on a phone and will you rely on a data connection other than wifi?
I thought there was native CDMA coverage in australia? Or is it only new zealand? I would agree an ebayed tilt unlocked and a prepaid sim would probably be the best route.
Hey all,
a quick question, after reading through the forum there seems to be 2 Razrs out (excluding the customs one released in China MT917 and XT928)
One is the CDMA/LTE version and the other GSM/HSDPA version.
I read this article and it says the RAZR is a world phone, containing a combined radio capable of CMDA and GSM...
So is there any roms out there thats able get the razr to work with both? or am I just reading the article wrong?
Am I dealing with a $650 paper weight?
I Live in the Phlippines. When I first started researching the specs on this phone it list CDMA/LTE and GSM with 4 bands... I assumed it would work over here. I purchased the XT912 model directly from Motorola with no plan and had it shipped directly to the Philippines. (My Bad)
Once in my hands I naturally popped in my micro-sim and turned it on. The only thing I got was that it didn't recognize the sim and my options were "Power Off" or "Emergency Dial". Not a happy camper to say the least... I now have a $650 brick!
I have since been able to get into the main menu of the phone but of course it still doesn't recognize my GSM sim. Most likely because of the fact that it has a CDMA/LTE baseband loaded which I assume has no GSM support. Hence the reason it does not recognize the sim or receive any GSM/HSDPA signal.
My question is this: How do I flash/load a new GSM/HSDPA baseband that will enable the radio and make this phone useful to me?
I'm a total noob when it comes to Android so please be patient with my ignorance... Especially if this is simply never going to work out. Should I keep the phone on the hopes that a developer will crack this nut or sell it on E-Bay and walk away... Thanks!
My apologies for adding insult to injury but it looks like you didn't research enough...
Yes, the XT912 has the hardware for GSM but it was disabled by Verizon since it only needed the LTE hardware. This was noted in the FCC docs that were leaked.
The GSM hardware can be activated in theory but there's a lot more to it than a simple flash.
So unfortunately, you have a paperweight in your hands...
pacafrat said:
I Live in the Phlippines. When I first started researching the specs on this phone it list CDMA/LTE and GSM with 4 bands... I assumed it would work over here. I purchased the XT912 model directly from Motorola with no plan and had it shipped directly to the Philippines. (My Bad)
Once in my hands I naturally popped in my micro-sim and turned it on. The only thing I got was that it didn't recognize the sim and my options were "Power Off" or "Emergency Dial". Not a happy camper to say the least... I now have a $650 brick!
I have since been able to get into the main menu of the phone but of course it still doesn't recognize my GSM sim. Most likely because of the fact that it has a CDMA/LTE baseband loaded which I assume has no GSM support. Hence the reason it does not recognize the sim or receive any GSM/HSDPA signal.
My question is this: How do I flash/load a new GSM/HSDPA baseband that will enable the radio and make this phone useful to me?
I'm a total noob when it comes to Android so please be patient with my ignorance... Especially if this is simply never going to work out. Should I keep the phone on the hopes that a developer will crack this nut or sell it on E-Bay and walk away... Thanks!
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I frequently travel to Europe, and it is frustrating to learn that Verizon has crippled the phone. It is bad enough that they don't allow me to pay for a plan while I am in Europe (and those plans are generally rip-offs) but to make me have to bring an entirely different phone when the Razr is capable is borderline absurd IMO.
I realize they want to keep it carrier specific... but I used to be a Sprint customer, and had a "world phone" which was unlocked for world GSM but locked for US GSM. This was fair and worked great for when I traveled.
Son of a! Do you mean to tell me that this phone could have been a world phone, but Verizon chose to disable this feature? That's retarded. I knew that it was CDMA/LTE-only when I bought it, but this phone would be nearly perfect if all the radios were enabled.
I read the Droid 4 will be the first LTE phone with GSM capabilities on Verizon, but could the GSM portion be disabled like it is on the Razr?
Ok thanks for the feedback everyone, so it seems the Razr has the hardware to be a world phone, but its just the software that isnt capable.
So if it has an unlocked bootloader, it might be possible to flash radios that support all basebands...correct?
pacafrat, sell me your razr I am in China
I'd like to replace my Droid X2 with the Razr MAXX, I see this is one of my options on verizon for a "world" phone.
I never expected my career to literally and figuratively "take off" as it has, and now I really need to adapt.
I want to be able to just use prepaid SIM cards when I'm in europe, but being the nerd/geek/technomancer I am (depending on who you talk to)
I just want to be sure that I can still screw with this thing without inhibiting my ability to use DATA and VOICE overseas on a GSM network.
I see that these roms are GSM/CDMA specfic, and if I switch to a GSM network, do I also have to switch to a GSM rom?
and yes, I will void this fukker's warranty the day I bring it home, I can't remember the last computer/tablet/phone that I haven't done that to.
I REALLY like my Droid X2 with the extended battery + CM7, It has been without a doubt the single most reliable phone I've ever owned. (so many people complain about it, but I think they just suck at technology) There isn't a single thing (aside from flashing a new kernel) that I haven't been able to do with/to it. Right now, my biggest dislike about it is the cracked digitizer (it fell out of my pocket onto a concrete slab approx 50ft below me, and all it did was crack the digitizer, thing still works FLAWLESSLY) so I'm pretty sold on motorola despite all the hate.
so are there any globetrotting verizon customers out there that have experience with this or am I going to have to just go out on a limb and do it? if worse comes to worse, I'll just buy a galaxy note and use that in the EU when I'm here, and use my razr maxx when I'm not.
I always have been and forever will be a fan of anything motorola that has the ability to Tx/Rx... they do radios right!
I think that you can't change CDMA to GSM, both are different technologies, that's why there are specifically ROMS for CDMA and GSM.
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Cheapxj said:
I'd like to replace my Droid X2 with the Razr MAXX, I see this is one of my options on verizon for a "world" phone.
I never expected my career to literally and figuratively "take off" as it has, and now I really need to adapt.
I want to be able to just use prepaid SIM cards when I'm in europe, but being the nerd/geek/technomancer I am (depending on who you talk to)
I just want to be sure that I can still screw with this thing without inhibiting my ability to use DATA and VOICE overseas on a GSM network.
I see that these roms are GSM/CDMA specfic, and if I switch to a GSM network, do I also have to switch to a GSM rom?
and yes, I will void this fukker's warranty the day I bring it home, I can't remember the last computer/tablet/phone that I haven't done that to.
I REALLY like my Droid X2 with the extended battery + CM7, It has been without a doubt the single most reliable phone I've ever owned. (so many people complain about it, but I think they just suck at technology) There isn't a single thing (aside from flashing a new kernel) that I haven't been able to do with/to it. Right now, my biggest dislike about it is the cracked digitizer (it fell out of my pocket onto a concrete slab approx 50ft below me, and all it did was crack the digitizer, thing still works FLAWLESSLY) so I'm pretty sold on motorola despite all the hate.
so are there any globetrotting verizon customers out there that have experience with this or am I going to have to just go out on a limb and do it? if worse comes to worse, I'll just buy a galaxy note and use that in the EU when I'm here, and use my razr maxx when I'm not.
I always have been and forever will be a fan of anything motorola that has the ability to Tx/Rx... they do radios right!
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Dany.Zam said:
I think that you can't change CDMA to GSM, both are different technologies, that's why there are specifically ROMS for CDMA and GSM.
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i believe lots of over seas people would buy the verizon maxx and use it via gsm because the gsm maxx took a long time to be released.
so data should work fine (and voice to) just no US gsm carriers.
and Dany.zam
both versions have the same radio, it supports cdma and gsm, gsm is just blocked on the verizon one (for us use), and i believe cdma is blocked or not given an esn number for the gsm one.
ooohhaaahh said:
both versions have the same radio, it supports cdma and gsm, gsm is just blocked on the verizon one (for us use), and i believe cdma is blocked or not given an esn number for the gsm one.
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I don't think the GSM one has a CDMA radio at all, as it would be pointless in markets where its sold.
well, I can always SBF it if it comes down to it, or just have two phones. I like the galaxy note better anyway in terms of hardware/features (I like having a stylus, keeps fingerprints off the screen surface and is good for some of the dirty nasty sweatiness that work gets me into)
Ok, I'll be back in the states in less than a week, Gotta buy a new phone anyway (was using my Droid X2 as a camera and I broke it, dropped it off the top of a fully extended genie lift onto the concrete below) so.
I see there's "2nd system" support using the webtop partition, so I can keep a "daily driver" rom and have another one to experiment with correct?
anyone know of roms that work well on BOTH CDMA and GSM after the radiocomm hacks?
I will be buying this thing full retail from a verizon store.
I give zero fukks if it works on ATT or any US GSM carrier, I only need GSM for european travel.
can I use prepaid sims in europe or should I "rent-a-sim" from one of those sim rental outfits?
if anyone has any real world experience with flashing/hacking this phone and globetrotting, POST UP!
it must work for in-country voice calling, and be able to provide wifi tethering everywhere I have signal.
I will be mostly in germany, the netherlands, france, great britain and spain outside the US. (in order of frequency/importance)
This is a world phone stock, it contains both GSM and CDMA radios, I'm more concerned with how different custom roms interact with the radio and if they work properly for Voice, MMS, SMS and Data on prepaid sims vs. "contract" sims in the european union.
Hey all,
So I've done some searching here, but I cannot find a concise, definitive answer to my questions. I'm buying a first phone for my daughter for Christmas, mainly for use as an MP3 and video player, but also for emergencies. She's still young, so when I say emergency we were leaning towards ONLY FOR A 911 TYPE EMERGENCY, as I believe those are placed even if the phone isn't activated. Anyway, her mom and I are on a GSM carrier so if we did activate it, we'd likely do it there, or a very cheap CDMA provider like Page Plus. So if I buy a phone off eBay or Craigslist today, regardless of whatever HBOOT/BOOTLOADER or ROM it has on it, can I still root it, use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader, the toolkit to S-OFF, and then flash a 4.X ROM and use GSM if I desire?
Thanks for any help! If this will work then I'll go this route and she'll be very excited!!
vettejock99 said:
Hey all,
So I've done some searching here, but I cannot find a concise, definitive answer to my questions. I'm buying a first phone for my daughter for Christmas, mainly for use as an MP3 and video player, but also for emergencies. She's still young, so when I say emergency we were leaning towards ONLY FOR A 911 TYPE EMERGENCY, as I believe those are placed even if the phone isn't activated. Anyway, her mom and I are on a GSM carrier so if we did activate it, we'd likely do it there, or a very cheap CDMA provider like Page Plus. So if I buy a phone off eBay or Craigslist today, regardless of whatever HBOOT/BOOTLOADER or ROM it has on it, can I still root it, use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader, the toolkit to S-OFF, and then flash a 4.X ROM and use GSM if I desire?
Thanks for any help! If this will work then I'll go this route and she'll be very excited!!
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The answer is yes, you can do that... the phone will work for E911 calls without being activated. You can also unlock, S-OFF, root, ROM and everything else like you said, although the Rezound is a little more complicated than to S-OFF than just using a toolkit it is doable with some homework and a little Linux knowledge, but to be honest, GSM works fine (Edge data only, 3G/4G higher possible with significant tweaking on some GSM carriers) on the stock 4.5.605.14 ROM.
If you know you will likely be activating this on a GSM carrier, why not get a phone designed for that right off the bat? Several unlocked GSM phones can be purchased for around the same price as the Rez, like the Galaxy Nexus, Sony Xperia S, HTC Sensation, Samsung GS2 GT-I9100 or similar phones. Don't get me wrong, I love the Rezound, but for ease of use on a GSM carrier with full 3G data you migh be better off looking at a phone suited to that purpose.
Yes, it's doable, just know what you are in for...
Thanks you.SO much! I've done wire tricks on some phones before and I think I'm learning that is the challenge here, but I should be good. I appreciate the other thoughts as well. To your question, well, we have poor GSM coverage in a number of spots around here, even we my wife and I using it, and CDMA seems like a good emergency precaution.
Thanks again so much!!
vettejock99 said:
Thanks you.SO much! I've done wire tricks on some phones before and I think I'm learning that is the challenge here, but I should be good. I appreciate the other thoughts as well. To your question, well, we have poor GSM coverage in a number of spots around here, even we my wife and I using it, and CDMA seems like a good emergency precaution.
Thanks again so much!!
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Cool... Note that activating the Rezound on PagePlus requires significant "tweaking" and a donor PagePlus phone to clone the ESN/MEID, PagePlus will not activate the Rezound as it is, neither will any other CDMA carrier but Verizon, and even then they won't do it on a prepaid plan. People have mentioned before that Cricket will do it, but the results have been mixed.
As long as you are aware of the issues and what you might need to do, go for it. Although for use as a video player, I would recommend an extended battery, the screen time on a standard battery is >2 hours. :/
acejavelin said:
Cool... Note that activating the Rezound on PagePlus requires significant "tweaking" and a donor PagePlus phone to clone the ESN/MEID, PagePlus will not activate the Rezound as it is, neither will any other CDMA carrier but Verizon, and even then they won't do it on a prepaid plan. People have mentioned before that Cricket will do it, but the results have been mixed.
As long as you are aware of the issues and what you might need to do, go for it. Although for use as a video player, I would recommend an extended battery, the screen time on a standard battery is >2 hours. :/
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Excellent points. Yeah, I had a S3 on PP for a while and it was a pain - actually CDMA overall is a pain to me so I probably won't do it. Per your advice - looking for an extended battery right now!
Hi All,
I want to put my old droidx back into service, but after knowing what I now know (thanks to this forum), I won't waste my time trying to root it (it's unrootable).
So, I want to buy a used cellphone that is already rooted. I've been watching ebay, and have come to the conclusion that Boost, AT&T and T-Mobile used phones are much cheaper than those from 'good' carriers. The T-Mobile S3 for instance, sells for about 60% the cost of an S3 previously used on Verizon or US Cellular.
So, these GSM phones are quite a bargain!
I need to know if a GSM phone that isn't under contract and does not have a current cell provider can operate in wifi only mode? In other words, my primary use for the phone is strictly wifi based, but I need to know if the lack of a simcard will inhibit the operation of the S3 that is used only with wifi?
Thanks.
A
I don't know how it is in the US, but here in Europe this is possible. I can use my phone with or without simcard. Wifi is always working, it is independant from the simcard.
I think it is the same in the USA. Or not?
Yes, it can.
Cheers,
AJ