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Reading some forum posts, I had the impression that the NFC model was already available in some countries (India and Korea). However, I read yesterday in the Spanish Engadget website that some blurry pictures of the NFC model had shown up, giving the impression that the new model was just a rumor. I'm confused now... Is it available or not?
Someone posted those photos here somewhere, can't remember what thread it was in tho. Korean model has NFC, is a little thicker than the one most people here are getting, has an antenna for a digital tv signal (I think), and different antenna frequencies.
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See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14277641#post14277641
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088927
In a press release by Sony they mentioned that they had sold 100,000 tablets.
Is it me, or is that a very poor figure?
If not enough people are buying it, Is it likely that they won't rush updates?
100.000 is't much but the problem with numbers is that most of the time it's unclear which kinds they are.
example are they shipped number total worldwide?
are they number sold worldwide or only a specific region like japan,us or eu?
maybe pre fixt model or including latest version?
or are they the the black friday sales number?
100.000 woldwide total to date seems very hard to believe.
to be honest the tablet holds it's own because of features that are not found on any model like the memcard slot and so on.
which is a very useful feature for photographers and sony sells a lot of cameras and those guys like sony and the full size memcard slot.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/zteusainc/m...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
They still sell it on the regular website and Best Buy and New Egg are still selling them on ebay. But this is very interesting that they have stopped selling it on ebay.
If they don't have any stock, how would they be running anything on eBay? I don't think ebay lets you run pre-orders and such. I'd bet it will come back up when stock arrive shortly.
It's no about stock actually.
They don't want non-US users to get the chance to buy the US model outside of the US. Which you were able to using eBay.
I was told by BHPhoto that they are restricted by ZTE to sell the device to non-US customers.
The US version is the better one compared to the international model.
Lucky me I have a buddy in NY area who got the newegg pre-order of the grey version and will forward it to me. I'm in Europe and have tested the A2017G. Sent it back as I'm waiting for the A2017U (US Model).
how is that the U model is better then G?
Aimara said:
how is that the U model is better then G?
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Easy for Unlock bootloader and easy to fix soft-brick , probably more buy those 2 comes first!!
oh ok , now that they halt the sale outside us ,seem like its just for you guys , well it should promote more and increase the community , frankly speaking just this year i heard of this brand , hmmm where has it been all these years
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It's no about stock actually.
They don't want non-US users to get the chance to buy the US model outside of the US. Which you were able to using eBay.
I was told by BHPhoto that they are restricted by ZTE to sell the device to non-US customers.
The US version is the better one compared to the international model.
Lucky me I have a buddy in NY area who got the newegg pre-order of the grey version and will forward it to me. I'm in Europe and have tested the A2017G. Sent it back as I'm waiting for the A2017U (US Model).
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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Actually only a few points that tipped it over for me in favor for the U version.
A: Better Software support from ZTE USA.
B: The U version has VoLTE which is supported in ROM/Baseband. The G version does not and never will. (Not supported in the modem firmware).
C: U version allows you to enter EDL mode (Qualcomms Emergency Download Mode). I need this as I'm a dev. The G version can only enter DFU mode.
D: All the band's that are required in my Euro country and in the US are supported. I travel to friends in the US and don't want to have to switch phones.
E: With the newegg pre-order you were given free headphones for around 200$. After customs it will be the same price as the G version in euros but with additional free high quality headphones.
F: My buddy tested the phone for "bad signal reception" and other faults/defects I mentioned to look out for. For over a week before sending the device over. Else I would have told him to send it back.
He is using an OP3 and even compared them as a daily driver. He said it's on par with the OP3. He even said the Axon7 is like "stuck on 4G" while his OP3 loses 4G occasionally and gets 3G only.
He is an experienced IT tech. I trust his judgement.
He is even thinking about selling his OP3 and to grab an Axon7 as soon as CM is done.
obladi64 said:
Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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The G model has a lower volume cap, possibly due to EU regulations, while the U model has a much higher cap. The G model also seems to have more issues with bootloader unlocking, while the U model is pretty straight forward.
celoxocis said:
Actually only a few points that tipped it over for me in favor for the U version.
A: Better Software support from ZTE USA.
B: The U version has VoLTE which is supported in ROM/Baseband. The G version does not and never will. (Not supported in the modem firmware).
C: U version allows you to enter EDL mode (Qualcomms Emergency Download Mode). I need this as I'm a dev. The G version can only enter DFU mode.
D: All the band's that are required in my Euro country and in the US are supported. I travel to friends in the US and don't want to have to switch phones.
E: With the newegg pre-order you were given free headphones for around 200$. After customs it will be the same price as the G version in euros but with additional free high quality headphones.
F: My buddy tested the phone for "bad signal reception" and other faults/defects I mentioned to look out for. For over a week before sending the device over. Else I would have told him to send it back.
He is using an OP3 and even compared them as a daily driver. He said it's on par with the OP3. He even said the Axon7 is like "stuck on 4G" while his OP3 loses 4G occasionally and gets 3G only.
He is an experienced IT tech. I trust his judgement.
He is even thinking about selling his OP3 and to grab an Axon7 as soon as CM is done.
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Thanks for the details. You see it from developer point of view mainly as I see.
A) I don't know. May be but as I see much less G related problem was reported than U.
B) May be but Volte is not as wide spreaded in EU as in US. as far as I know. Otherwise It looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off, so you can get in same boat easily.
C) I don't know how important it is for avaradge users. Orherwise it is also software fearure if I understand it well.
D) You are lucky. Not eveeybody can say that US bands cover of his/her country exactly.
E) Just because of this fact US version is not better. It is only cheaper.
F) It is strange because mostly US users complain for signal reception. I haven't had any issue with. G. It works perfectly and expectedly in big city as well as low signal country area. As I mentioned earlier it looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off.
Also I read that overwriting field APN manually can solve few cell issues. I did it due to orher reason and I don't have any issue.
So after all you didn't mentioned anything why U would be better for users except Volte. It is just your taste and chance to get it cheaper.
obladi64 said:
Thanks for the details. You see it from developer point of view mainly as I see.
A) I don't know. May be but as I see much less G related problem was reported than U.
B) May be but Volte is not as wide spreaded in EU as in US. as far as I know. Otherwise It looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off, so you can get in same boat easily.
C) I don't know how important it is for avaradge users. Orherwise it is also software fearure if I understand it well.
D) You are lucky. Not eveeybody can say that US bands cover of his/her country exactly.
E) Just because of this fact US version is not better. It is only cheaper.
F) It is strange because mostly US users complain for signal reception. I haven't had any issue with. G. It works perfectly and expectedly in big city as well as low signal country area. As I mentioned earlier it looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off.
Also I read that overwriting field APN manually can solve few cell issues. I did it due to orher reason and I don't have any issue.
So after all you didn't mentioned anything why U would be better for users except Volte. It is just your taste and chance to get it cheaper.
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That's why I said it's only a few points for _me_ and not for _all_ users.
And as I have a chance to get all those pros for the same price in the end it is a no brainer.
Also I do not believe that the antenna is so much different to the G model. It is more likely that a few batches had a bad antenna build-in and when ZTE realized that, due to complains, new batches after the affected one's were sent off, were all build with a better antenna in place.
The Chinese and US Models were on the first batches. The international ones were produced later. Look into Chinese forums complaining about reception problems.
Unfortunate it is how the greedy corporate industry world works today. Sell those affected phones until enough users complain. If they complain, offer an exchange. If they don't they made profit.
Just look at the Samsung Note 7 disaster. Same **** is happening there.
Not to mention Samsungs Panel Lottery for their TV which has been going on for a decade.
I worked for Huawei Europe HQ and could write a book about how corporations do their quality check behind the doors. Just saying I'm never gone touch a Huawei phone because of what I know.
(Don't ask I signed an nondisclosure agreement.)
In the end it's on you to decide if you want to keep the phone or not. Or if you want to pay 399$ with more pros or 449euro for more cons.
Isn't the chinese A2017 model better than the rest? I mean... like, you know... 6gb RAM vs 4gb... 128gb internal vs 64... and you can use all the U unlocks/tools w/ no issue?
Seems that many of you forget that having US version in Europe you are out of warranty.
To many customers warranty is very important to them.
Also EU has 3 years warranty policy while US 2 years.
I'm having a month now both gold and gray G version and no reception /WiFi issue at all.
Compared to my S7 Edge the call reception is the same level and WiFi is better.
Also G version will have in coming weeks official root and boot loader unlocked from ZTE without loosing the warranty.
Even that US version is getting first the official software updates it's just matter of time(less than 1 month) until G version also received the software update for the specific region(Europe)
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Just curious does the u model comes from the ZTE USA down in texas? I presumed warranty is by them as well?
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celoxocis said:
That's why I said it's only a few points for _me_ and not for _all_ users.
And as I have a chance to get all those pros for the same price in the end it is a no brainer.
Also I do not believe that the antenna is so much different to the G model. It is more likely that a few batches had a bad antenna build-in and when ZTE realized that, due to complains, new batches after the affected one's were sent off, were all build with a better antenna in place.
The Chinese and US Models were on the first batches. The international ones were produced later. Look into Chinese forums complaining about reception problems.
Unfortunate it is how the greedy corporate industry world works today. Sell those affected phones until enough users complain. If they complain, offer an exchange. If they don't they made profit.
Just look at the Samsung Note 7 disaster. Same **** is happening there.
Not to mention Samsungs Panel Lottery for their TV which has been going on for a decade.
I worked for Huawei Europe HQ and could write a book about how corporations do their quality check behind the doors. Just saying I'm never gone touch a Huawei phone because of what I know.
(Don't ask I signed an nondisclosure agreement.)
In the end it's on you to decide if you want to keep the phone or not. Or if you want to pay 399$ with more pros or 449euro for more cons.
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You could be right. That's how the world works. You also are not enemy of your money as well as no one else.
Regarding the price I would say that EU price contains the average 21% EU VAT. So it means that price of EU version would be between $410 or 415 in US. So it is not a big deal. Also I think that EU citizens should pay duty if they import from US but it is already off topic.
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Isn't the chinese A2017 model better than the rest? I mean... like, you know... 6gb RAM vs 4gb... 128gb internal vs 64... and you can use all the U unlocks/tools w/ no issue?
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No, bad band support.
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Also I think that EU citizens should pay duty if they import from US but it is already off topic.
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They do. Just not on specific electronics like Notebooks, Computer Hardware, Cell phones etc
Oddly enough, amazon has also stopped selling the phone. I guess it could just be sold out though.
Hm, still "in stock" at amazon.com:
https://www.amazon.com/ZTE-Axon-unl...TF8&qid=1476347129&sr=8-3&keywords=zte+axon+7
Amazon.com has gold for $399.98, but the grey (which is what I want...) is $479.00. What gives???
Hi.
Since today we were informed Asus is selling usa models by themselves, Asus, Amazon, B&H, mobileadvance.
And for suppose 12gb/512gb, part number is mentioned as 90AI0032-M00420 (US)
I have only enquiry, can anyone explain the difference between this US model and the Taiwan model. Which has part number as 90AI0032-M00350 (Taiwan)
I am a small reseller and wish to gain any difference info. As the Taiwan model is available to me from overseas at 899 USD. And this US model is for 999 USD. (both at 512/12)
Please find pic for the Taiwan version.
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Hi.
Since today we were informed Asus is selling usa models by themselves, Asus, Amazon, B&H, mobileadvance.
And for suppose 12gb/512gb, part number is mentioned as 90AI0032-M00420 (US)
I have only enquiry, can anyone explain the difference between this US model and the Taiwan model. Which has part number as 90AI0032-M00350 (Taiwan)
I am a small reseller and wish to gain any difference info. As the Taiwan model is available to me from overseas at 899 USD. And this US model is for 999 USD. (both at 512/12)
Please find pic for the Taiwan version.
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ZERO difference.
ZOHAIBAR said:
Hi.
Since today we were informed Asus is selling usa models by themselves, Asus, Amazon, B&H, mobileadvance.
And for suppose 12gb/512gb, part number is mentioned as 90AI0032-M00420 (US)
I have only enquiry, can anyone explain the difference between this US model and the Taiwan model. Which has part number as 90AI0032-M00350 (Taiwan)
I am a small reseller and wish to gain any difference info. As the Taiwan model is available to me from overseas at 899 USD. And this US model is for 999 USD. (both at 512/12)
Please find pic for the Taiwan version.
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Bands and 5g
TuGa121 said:
Bands and 5g
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FALSE, it's the same phone. Ask me how I know?
bs3pro said:
FALSE, it's the same phone. Ask me how I know?
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Should be something interesting, let me do the favour, How you know???
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Should be something interesting, let me do the favour, How you know???
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Sorry, I can't answer that.
Has to be because of the 5g bands
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TuGa121 said:
Has to be because of the 5g bands
Sent From My ASUS Rog Phone 2 Ultimate Edition Using TapaTalk Pro
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There's NO difference. Same bands. Same software.
Can't be there is version a and b
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TuGa121 said:
Can't be there is version a and b
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LMFAO, they are both a version, so both the SAME, ZERO difference.
They are the same. The different part number is because of the charger pin and voltage.
ZOHAIBAR said:
Hi.
Since today we were informed Asus is selling usa models by themselves, Asus, Amazon, B&H, mobileadvance.
And for suppose 12gb/512gb, part number is mentioned as 90AI0032-M00420 (US)
I have only enquiry, can anyone explain the difference between this US model and the Taiwan model. Which has part number as 90AI0032-M00350 (Taiwan)
I am a small reseller and wish to gain any difference info. As the Taiwan model is available to me from overseas at 899 USD. And this US model is for 999 USD. (both at 512/12)
Please find pic for the Taiwan version.
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from where did you buy the taiwan model ?
from egypt and wanna buy the rog 3, if u can help ...
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Hello.
I have a question about the s23 ultra about how to check the modem used in it, I am asking because I know Samsung will try to cheap out as much as they can, the point is I know they should use the new x70 modem but in my region, the phones come with no antenna that found below the power button like the American models, so I think Samsung used their standard modems they usually use here in the middle east.
device info : S23 Ultra sm-s918B/DS
Baseband: S918BXXU1AWA6
AFAIK the modem is part of the CPU chip, so I doubt its different.... For sure frequency bands are significantly different between US and EU/elsewhere, therefore a different antenna configuration makes sense for me
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AFAIK the modem is part of the CPU chip
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Yep. OP's question is answered.
thebiggboss180 said:
the phones come with no antenna that found below the power button like the American models
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American models have mmWave... None of the others do.
Thank you for the answer guys, I just did ask because I always feel that our copy is made cheaper than the American models although we pay more, I did pay 1400$ for a 512g copy as a promotion of double the storage, and got 300$ total value stuff from them.