[INFO] Explaining camera issues on E3D GSM running AOSP GB and ICS - HTC EVO 3D

I just tried to explain what's wrong and why in a simple form.
I hope my pronouncement sounds okay for you.
Never did any type of v-blogging before though

i like your eye gestures! im gay
was that >
framework is gay
runtime is gay
client is a gay
service is a gay
camera is not a gay ?

Nice video mate. How do we know for sure what sensors do we have?

This confirmed my suspicions.
If we cant have camera on ics until HTC releases ics for E3D than that also means that we cant have 3D in aosp if htc doesnt releases source for 3D
Now i kind of hate a bougth this phone.
I never realy liked sense, i tought, i will just install some aosp rom and remove stupid sense, but then i fell in love in 3D.
Now im not using 2d camera at all.
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Most new this but hopefully for the ones that didn't this will stop some questions.
Good vid, couldn't have done it myself, you think your accent is bad, i'm english but from liverpool. No one can understand ppl from liverpool Thats the way we like it tho

pedja1 said:
This confirmed my suspicions.
If we cant have camera on ics until HTC releases ics for E3D than that also means that we cant have 3D in aosp if htc doesnt releases source for 3D
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well, you could just buy the development kit from the camera controller makers if this bug you so much, a few tens of kdollars and you're allright.

NixZero said:
well, you could just buy the development kit from the camera controller makers if this bug you so much, a few tens of kdollars and you're allright.
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You are kidding right?
I could buy multiple high-end devices for that much money plus what would i do with dev kit when im not dev
Im just saying stupid htc
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NixZero said:
well, you could just buy the development kit from the camera controller makers if this bug you so much, a few tens of kdollars and you're allright.
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Speaking inbehalf of HTC ? If HTC isnt making profit by selling phones then purchase like this wouldnt make sense

jcsy said:
i like your eye gestures! im gay
was that >
framework is gay
runtime is gay
client is a gay
service is a gay
camera is not a gay ?
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You made my day, I didn't hear it when I was checking my video for errors. lol

HAHAHAHA CHECK IT AGAIN
because i heard all of that "IS A GAY"

jcsy said:
HAHAHAHA CHECK IT AGAIN
because i heard all of that "IS A GAY"
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AWESOME ****! but... u have to be gay for always hearing is a gay xD
LMFAO!
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River99 said:
AWESOME ****! but... u have to be gay for always hearing is a gay xD
LMFAO!
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Like I said, I'm gay in second post, lol
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Interesting....maybe more DEVS will Jump on 3D now.....

http://phandroid.com/2011/07/19/htc-planning-the-release-of-a-3d-enabled-flyer-pics/
Original source http://androidcommunity.com/htc-flyer-3d-tablet-coming-soon-take-a-look-at-this-photo-20110719/
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http://phandroid.com/2011/07/19/htc-planning-the-release-of-a-3d-enabled-flyer-pics/
Original source http://androidcommunity.com/htc-flyer-3d-tablet-coming-soon-take-a-look-at-this-photo-20110719/
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Virus will be
Virus, Myn, Netarchy, Leoisright said they will develop....who ever said they left? There are a few more that are just waiting for the gates to open. Not to mention xHausx, agrabren(teamwin), shinzul(teamwin,cm)..others who developed for OG evo..Tiffany84(will she develop?)...and the current ones we have now...I don't know about you...this is a powerhouse team....and just sitting back back...impatiently as the rest of us are for them to do their magic.....I am damn glad I have this phone....
life64x said:
Virus, Myn, Netarchy, Leoisright said they will develop....who ever said they left? There are a few more that are just waiting for the gates to open. Not to mention xHausx, agrabren(teamwin), shinzul(teamwin,cm)..others who developed for OG evo..Tiffany84(will she develop?)...and the current ones we have now...I don't know about you...this is a powerhouse team....and just sitting back back...impatiently as the rest of us are for them to do their magic.....I am damn glad I have this phone....
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I'm sorry i should have worded it different. I know we got people working on the 3d. It's a beast I love it. But having a 2nd 3d device out by HTC should broaden the apps released in the market and even apps by HTC. More movies, maybe even netflix support, maybe official 3d HTC widgets, Games?(gameloft has a few,and then......). If that article is correct it would be 7 inch 3d monster
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reaper24 said:
Virus will be
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And that reason would be enough for me to stay with the 3D even if i hated it..lol..but its a beast and i wouldnt trade it for any other phone especially not any garbage samsung or moto
Don't be sorry...the problem is that 3d is a new technology on the phone...how many apps can you develop for it for 3d only? The flyer is no different...if you strip out the 3d....the 3vo is still a formidable phone. The main developers I see will be on roms...kernels and system apps..modders will do the themes and landscape of design...there is a huge potential for this phone...the flyer...I think it is cool and nice...but until 3d becomes mainstream....most of the development will be done on the rest of the areas..be it phone or tablet...
life64x said:
Don't be sorry...the problem is that 3d is a new technology on the phone...how many apps can you develop for it for 3d only? The flyer is no different...if you strip out the 3d....the 3vo is still a formidable phone. The main developers I see will be on roms...kernels and system apps..modders will do the themes and landscape of design...there is a huge potential for this phone...the flyer...I think it is cool and nice...but until 3d becomes mainstream....most of the development will be done on the rest of the areas..be it phone or tablet...
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Yessirrr
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life64x said:
Virus, Myn, Netarchy, Leoisright said they will develop....who ever said they left? There are a few more that are just waiting for the gates to open. Not to mention xHausx, agrabren(teamwin), shinzul(teamwin,cm)..others who developed for OG evo..Tiffany84(will she develop?)...and the current ones we have now...I don't know about you...this is a powerhouse team....and just sitting back back...impatiently as the rest of us are for them to do their magic.....I am damn glad I have this phone....
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Who the fcuk is tiffany84? Have I been gone that long lol?
dirkyd3rk said:
Who the fcuk is tiffany84? Have I been gone that long lol?
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LOL....she dev'ed for the OG EVO.....she. made up some sweet themes for the kingdom port.....she's also made a few skins for us here.....she's learnng as she goes....I think she's gonna be a good asset to us here.....prettty stoked about it all!!
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dirkyd3rk said:
Who the fcuk is tiffany84? Have I been gone that long lol?
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You know who tiff is, lol. Gtfoh!
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jayharper08 said:
You know who tiff is, lol. Gtfoh!
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I know I was being a smartass as usual lol
Where can we find API documentation on how the 3D in these things work? There isn't anything in the current Android build. HTC should release and support their API's as plugins for Android or something?
3d roms........... gona be sick
Neo3D said:
Where can we find API documentation on how the 3D in these things work? There isn't anything in the current Android build. HTC should release and support their API's as plugins for Android or something?
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Possibly the open sense program that htc is implementing....else time to get dirty with a little reversing....
beyond882001 said:
I'm sorry i should have worded it different. I know we got people working on the 3d. It's a beast I love it. But having a 2nd 3d device out by HTC should broaden the apps released in the market and even apps by HTC. More movies, maybe even netflix support, maybe official 3d HTC widgets, Games?(gameloft has a few,and then......). If that article is correct it would be 7 inch 3d monster
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I haven't had the opportunity to tinker with it yet, but can't Netflix be ran on pretty much any android device if you change the build.prop info to show the device as a samsung... Or even a HTC Evo 4G? Again, I don't have it in hand, but I would imagine that would work through ES file with temp root...?
monkeybone12 said:
I haven't had the opportunity to tinker with it yet, but can't Netflix be ran on pretty much any android device if you change the build.prop info to show the device as a samsung... Or even a HTC Evo 4G? Again, I don't have it in hand, but I would imagine that would work through ES file with temp root...?
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The same 4G's netflix apk has been working on the 3vo since day 1. Now the market version offically supports the evo 3d.
It doesnt matter but.. you cant change the build prop file without perm root because you have to reboot the phone for it to take effect.
str8upx said:
The same 4G's netflix apk has been working on the 3vo since day 1. Now the market version offically supports the evo 3d.
It doesnt matter but.. you cant change the build prop file without perm root because you have to reboot the phone for it to take effect.
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Well.... GREAT NEWS! 8D
Yeah, I'm no pro, but not afraid to tinker.

3d without sense???

Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Short answer: I doubt it. I'm also skeptical any non HTC sense ROM will receive 3D support. The 3D support is fairly complicated, especially given all the source code is closed. In order to get access to any of it, it will require a developer to reverse engineer HTC's work.
Reverse engineering a massive function such as 3D would be a very time intensive task. Most developers probably don't have the time to dive into reversing engineering the 3D, especially when the outlook seems to be this is the only 3D device released on sprint and no future devices has been announced to support 3D.
Sorry that makes a pretty glummy picture although all my opinion and speculation I think it expresses the view points of most of the community.
If HTC were to open source their 3D code, wow, it would probably be adopted and improved very quickly by the community.
Hope that helps explain some of the issues around porting HTC 3D support to non HTC Sense ROMs!
joeykrim said:
Short answer: I doubt it. I'm also skeptical any non HTC sense ROM will receive 3D support. The 3D support is fairly complicated, especially given all the source code is closed. In order to get access to any of it, it will require a developer to reverse engineer HTC's work.
Reverse engineering a massive function such as 3D would be a very time intensive task. Most developers probably don't have the time to dive into reversing engineering the 3D, especially when the outlook seems to be this is the only 3D device released on sprint and no future devices has been announced to support 3D.
Sorry that makes a pretty glummy picture although all my opinion and speculation I think it expresses the view points of most of the community.
If HTC were to open source their 3D code, wow, it would probably be adopted and improved very quickly by the community.
Hope that helps explain some of the issues around porting HTC 3D support to non HTC Sense ROMs!
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Written perfectly,
I'm not a dev. But I think the 3d has actually slowed the development of a lot of things as a result of that unknown code,
And miui's camera barely works.. if they are having trouble with that just imagine trying to mess with 3d,
Shot from my shooter in 3D
injected with cleanrom2.7
ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Have you tried to use Senseless rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198099
Ok oh well. You guys should have seen me when I successfully flashed MIUI, I was like a kid I'm a candy store man (this if the first device I have ever had to support it) but then I tried to take a picture and what the hell, no 3D. I didn't buy a 3D phone to not freaking use it. Oh well though, I guess I'll just be a sense guy until (or if) HTC stops bring stingy with the 3D source. Thanks anyway dudes...
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Or try hd revolution senseless rom.... The 3d camera should work on that.
ognimnella said:
Hey is there any non HTC sense ROM out there with the 3d camera on it. I flashed miui earlier and it was awesome but it didn't have the 3d camera!
thx,
Ognimnella
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Try the DarkSense Rom... I actually like Sense but I Flashed that Rom thinking it had Sense but it Didn't have the Home screen but had the other Sense stuff! So it might have the 3D Camera?
Im using WTSB Rom now, its the fastest ROM I have ever seen. I just need to learn how to flash the correct kernel on hboot 1.5
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ognimnella said:
Ok oh well. You guys should have seen me when I successfully flashed MIUI, I was like a kid I'm a candy store man (this if the first device I have ever had to support it) but then I tried to take a picture and what the hell, no 3D. I didn't buy a 3D phone to not freaking use it. Oh well though, I guess I'll just be a sense guy until (or if) HTC stops bring stingy with the 3D source. Thanks anyway dudes...
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I'm running Senseless by scrosler and the 3D camera works just fine. No problem at all. And as the name states, there is no Sense.
Petition ?
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Petititon What exactly???
maek_it_happen said:
Petition ?
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overclockxp said:
I'm running Senseless by scrosler and the 3D camera works just fine. No problem at all. And as the name states, there is no Sense.
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I can confirm this....I'm on senseless rom too and 3d camera works just fine.
another +1 for senseless, but i switched back to cleanrom myself
Senseless is still a Sense based ROM, it just has Rosie and HTC Widgets removed. OP is probably wondering about getting 3d working on actual AOSP, which won't happen for a very long time, if ever.
you can get pretty close to an AOSP experience with a Sense Rom if you are not afraid to remove apps. my wife and I are both running SteelRom 2.62, but our phones look very different. I took out almost everything made by HTC and have the barebones for Sense-only stuff to work, like the 3D camera
Max_Pain said:
you can get pretty close to an AOSP experience with a Sense Rom if you are not afraid to remove apps. my wife and I are both running SteelRom 2.62, but our phones look very different. I took out almost everything made by HTC and have the barebones for Sense-only stuff to work, like the 3D camera
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So what apps can I remove without screwing up my phone?
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Petition
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Petition +2 cause of you ,if you knew what to do or what is true , get a clue then catch a flu , forever just seems too new , me and u we just like glue
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Can I build ICS on top of a sense ROM and just play with the framework a little to make it work?
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I would think more port sense to ics
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Any interest in viperROM for EVO 3D GSM?

I'm just wondering if it is something that would be worth our time to bring over. I believe I would be able to use a multi-device flash setup like Team Warm did with at least 1 of their ROMs. Not having the device makes me not want to really do it, but if there is enough demand for it, I would consider it - especially if I could use the same base and push the right files for the 2 different phones since I know the CDMA base is already very solid. Please let me know your honest thoughts.
I should have asked Vin about this before posting. Oh well
-viperboy- said:
I'm just wondering if it is something that would be worth our time to bring over. I believe I would be able to use a multi-device flash setup like Team Warm did with at least 1 of their ROMs. Not having the device makes me not want to really do it, but if there is enough demand for it, I would consider it - especially if I could use the same base and push the right files for the 2 different phones since I know the CDMA base is already very solid. Please let me know your honest thoughts.
I should have asked Vin about this before posting. Oh well
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well,i for one would certainly welcome it.iam sure many other GSM fellows would love it too
Options are always good!!
Would be happy to test on GSM!
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-viperboy- said:
I believe I would be able to use a multi-device flash setup like Team Warm did with at least 1 of their Roms
I should have asked Vin about this before posting
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Can I get an eta on this kang??
Vins gonna be pissed when you get home! Just a joke
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i am interested
Honestly if the piece can live up to this huge hype I would love to have it running on my phone
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"Way to double post, there is already a thread here, noob"
[Rom] ViperRom for GSM, post if you want it!
This is how you troll, right?
Edit: something about a flamesuit...in your face!
It would be awesome. Bring it!
Please
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I would love to test new rom
i am interested too !!
Heard great things from it. Would love to see it ported over.
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I like turtles
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count me in, I d love to see a viper rom!
Absolutely....it will be great
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Viper, stop wondering and bring us the badboy asap!!!!!!
nikosblade said:
Viper, stop wondering and bring us the badboy asap!!!!!!
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Yes +1 please... Bring it on!!!
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Viper kanged this thread....
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nikosblade said:
Viper, stop wondering and bring us the badboy asap!!!!!!
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That
One of the best ROMs for CDMA EVO3D... I think we would kill for this on the GSM version.
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Isn't this the only ROM with multiport forwarding for the Evo3D?
Interested.

Energy ROM for the EVO 3D is being cooked

Good news everyone!
(insert Professor Farnsworth here)
Just wanted to share that NRGZ28 started working on an EVO 3D ROM. It's currently being tested. So far, it's looking great!
Great news, another HD2 legend developing for our EVO 3D
can't wait
I loved his roms back in the day on my Xperia X1.
I hope he cooks for us GSM users too
Man, does anyone want to swap my evo gsm for a cdma?
Rom choices are dwindling for gsm (god save me) as I speak (type)
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flashallthetime said:
Man, does anyone want to swap my evo gsm for a cdma?
Rom choices are dwindling for gsm (god save me) as I speak (type)
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We in the cdma section don't exactly have a huge influx of development, either.....
d3rpalicious.
ch1naski said:
We in the cdma section don't exactly have a huge influx of development, either.....
d3rpalicious.
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More than we do, getting really ugly on the gsm threads , I think a pus*y riot is going to happen, every noob complain about bootloops with kernels now, predator 395 missing inaction, soon moderators will close more threads do to warez kernel
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flashallthetime said:
More than we do, getting really ugly on the gsm threads , I think a pus*y riot is going to happen, every noob complain about bootloops with kernels now, predator 395 missing inaction, soon moderators will close more threads do to warez kernel
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Flash, check your pm
Read, Search, Read again, ... Then Ask with Tapatalk 2
Who is this NRG guy you guys speak of ? How come he has the same username as me ? Kanger!
So much for this...
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NRGZ28 said:
Who is this NRG guy you guys speak of ? How come he has the same username as me ? Kanger!
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Dude your Rom on the EVO 4g was blazing fast,I can't wait.and if some don't know this guy is the real mother ****ing deal
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NRGZ28 said:
Who is this NRG guy you guys speak of ? How come he has the same username as me ? Kanger!
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Loved your work on the OG EVO. It was the only ROM I used once it came out. Can't wait for the release of this. Guarantee it will be my new ROM. <3
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any update energy rom for evo 3d?
wait with patience

Who whants to pay for 3D on 4.x.x roms

Maybe if a developer get paid for doing the 3D thing on our Evo 4.x.x roms does this sound interesting?
I am in for 25$
who is next?
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Wrong section!!!
Anyway, I most likely wouldn't, maybe I'd do a little donation, but why are you asking this?
Well i want 3d in sense 4 too full functionality.
But Change section
Moved to General
IMO the only developer (who is still interested in Evo) capable to create functional drivers for 3D camera is agrabren. You can contribute him, but don't expect any ETA.
Personally I.would rather have 4g on a sense 4 Rom. Newt was about to put one out but things happened and it didn't come out. Makes me sad as his sense 4 he had was awesome.
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Id pay for 4g development
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Not to be the debbie downer but I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that neither 3d nor 4g will ever be implemented on Sence 4.1+ rom. Just not gonna happen.
I'd just be happy with 3D on JB (camera and all)
Don't care if still on Sense 3.6 and there isn't 4G in my area.
Kolma said:
I'd just be happy with 3D on JB (camera and all)
Don't care if still on Sense 3.6 and there isn't 4G in my area.
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why do you need jb?
orlox said:
why do you need jb?
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Why not?
micens said:
Why not?
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because you don't have 3d
I mean what you gain in contrary with a nice 4.0.3 Rom?
orlox said:
because you don't have 3d
I mean what you gain in contrary with a nice 4.0.3 Rom?
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No, no, I use 4.0.3 roms, and happy with it, but, why not use JB if it possible make 3D with... I talk about that
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why do you need jb?
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I want a proper working Google Now that's all top notch.
Google Now on ICS is fine and all but it's not up to date and doesn't run perfect.
troyboytn said:
Not to be the debbie downer but I can guarantee you with 100% certainty that neither 3d nor 4g will ever be implemented on Sence 4.1+ rom. Just not gonna happen.
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Well not with that attitude...
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Nothing to do with attitude. It has already been tried by some if the most talented devs who have ever worked on the Evo. "They" said it would never happen and they have already moved on to new devices.
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Let's just pay HTC for the source code? Anyone in with a few thousand bucks?
troyboytn said:
Nothing to do with attitude. It has already been tried by some if the most talented devs who have ever worked on the Evo. "They" said it would never happen and they have already moved on to new devices.
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Mwakious is still working on sense 4+ rom with working 3d camera.
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No bull**** talks only people WHO wants to donate.. Admin clean bull**** talks please
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I'd contribute something if 3D didn't already give me a headache to look at on this thing.

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