Which is better/necessary for maintaining max speed and free memory?
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
rlxurmnd said:
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
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You forgot a question mark.
The stock JI6 task manager and a shortcut to "running services". This will show you EXACTLY what's RUNNING on your phone. Key word is running!
rlxurmnd said:
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
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Well I don't know why the task related apps exist. If they didn't exist I wouldn't be asking the question.
the one with the JI6 is very useful for me.
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stevenmcneal83 said:
Well I don't know why the task related apps exist. If they didn't exist I wouldn't be asking the question.
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Some devs are stuck with the Windows Mobile mentality that Android requires task managers. Android will free the memory as needed, all you need is the stock J16 task manager if you'd like to close the occasional/accidentally left open app.
You guys are doing a very poor job of answering his question and most of it is misinformation.
Auto Killer is NOT a task killer. It is a memory optimizer. It basically uses the same system that is built into Android and modifies the intervals at which it clears memory. It does not kill tasks unless you specify it to.
For instance, default Vibrant is set to start freeing RAM from "empty" apps at 63 MB of RAM left. Empty apps are apps that have been sitting for awhile, not using cpu and not being used but are stored in RAM. You could see why these apps would be the first to go. Well, with Auto Killer, I can change the threshold to 98 MB so when it drops below that, the Android system frees up RAM from the apps that aren't being used.
Auto Killer is nowhere near the same as a task killer or task manager and it actually benefits your system greatly because it just modifies Android memory management system.
Again, the default Android system ALREADY starts clearing RAM automatically at 63 MB left meaning you will always have at least 63 MB of RAM unless you are using tons of apps at once, since they would all be active and Android will not free RAM from active apps unless you are critically low on memory. I'm talking less than 10MB. I like to have at least 98 MB left though so Auto Killer modifies that. Auto Killer does not modify the way Android handles apps, you just tell it the thresholds and then Android does its thing.
kangxi said:
You guys are doing a very poor job of answering his question and most of it is misinformation.
Auto Killer is NOT a task killer. It is a memory optimizer. It basically uses the same system that is built into Android and modifies the intervals at which it clears memory. It does not kill tasks unless you specify it to.
For instance, default Vibrant is set to start freeing RAM from "empty" apps at 63 MB of RAM left. Empty apps are apps that have been sitting for awhile, not using cpu and not being used but are stored in RAM. You could see why these apps would be the first to go. Well, with Auto Killer, I can change the threshold to 98 MB so when it drops below that, the Android system frees up RAM from the apps that aren't being used.
Auto Killer is nowhere near the same as a task killer or task manager and it actually benefits your system greatly because it just modifies Android memory management system.
Again, the default Android system ALREADY starts clearing RAM automatically at 63 MB left meaning you will always have at least 63 MB of RAM unless you are using tons of apps at once, since they would all be active and Android will not free RAM from active apps unless you are critically low on memory. I'm talking less than 10MB. I like to have at least 98 MB left though so Auto Killer modifies that. Auto Killer does not modify the way Android handles apps, you just tell it the thresholds and then Android does its thing.
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Awesome! Thanks so much for being thorough, I'm kinda new. One more quick question, since auto killer seems to be the best way to manage free memory, do I need to remove the task manager if I plan on using auto killer?
Yes. I use just auto killer. No task killer or anything. If I do need to close an app that is frozen or something, I just use the task manager built-in with JI6. Otherwise, just pressing the back button in 99% of all apps will properly close it.
kangxi said:
Yes. I use just auto killer. No task killer or anything. If I do need to close an app that is frozen or something, I just use the task manager built-in with JI6. Otherwise, just pressing the back button in 99% of all apps will properly close it.
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The built in task manager is the one I was referring to. The one that came included with fusion 1.1. So you currently have both auto killer and task manager on your phone? Forgive me for the confusion
Yes, but like I said, I only use it when I really need to close something which isn't that often. Like if a game I am playing freezes. When I am done with an app, just press the back button and it will close. Try it.
Open an app, press home then look in the task manager. It will be there.
Open the same app, press back, open the task manager and it won't. So using the task manager is like just for emergencies if the app won't close properly.
Thanks alot man
I've always noticed that even after using advanced task killer and even auto start killer, some apps like espn scorecenter, tmobile contacts backup and dome others always reload. I tried searching for the apps through auto start killer, but it can't find them. It kills me that I can't get more than 140-145m of available memory, my wife's optimus t gets over 250 plus!! Any suggestions?
When i use my advanced task killer it says i have around 350M memory left i was wondering if that is low for the phone and if it is can someone tell me how to raise it?
Jim1tone said:
When i use my advanced task killer it says i have around 350M memory left i was wondering if that is low for the phone and if it is can someone tell me how to raise it?
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You don't need to have any more than that. Also, it is not good to use any task killer on Froyo. The system does it for you. It takes the same amount of energy for Android to hold empty RAM as it does to leave it allocated to an application. It is recommended that the RAM is used up, that way processes run faster and it uses less energy to open applications. Stop using task killers on Froyo. The only time it is necessary is if an app has gone haywire and it needs to be shutdown. I use SystemPanel to exclude certain apps from ever being "killed".
http://android.nextapp.com/site/systempanel/doc/taskmanagement
I often find all of the preloaded apps opening in the bg. I used to handle this with auto killer but since I have no root yet I'm manually killing then with task manager. Are there any alternative methods of doing this?
when theyre open I'm under 200 left of mem space, when I kill em I'm back up to 300+ so it's kind of a big deal in terms of performance.
Thanks
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Task killers haven't been needed since Android 2.2. The apps may be running, but they're not doing anything. They're just chilling in the background. Android automatically manages the memory and kills things when it gets too full. I have 124MB of RAM right now, no big deal.
But if you insist, advanced task killer.
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I've got about 250MB of free RAM, according to my task manager. Why then are most of my apps reloading when I switch to them? It's not that there's no room for them to stay in memory, it's that they DON'T!
Getting slightly hacked off about it - I've had this problem on every Android phone I've ever had, and I thought that 1GB of RAM would solve it but it's hardly any better at all...
Get rid of your task manager.
Android handles memory perfectly on its own.
Did you ever think that you had that problem on every phone because you had a task manager on every phone?
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This is the task manager built in to the Samsung ROM. I'm not killing tasks with it, nor am I using any sort of third party task killer.
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