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After trying too many fixes from various thread I am really unhappy about the battery drain issue of my SGS2.
Here is a fix which makes me happy at last. You all who facing this problem can try this. This works best when you are with custom roms. But stock also shows improvement.
1st you have to root your SGS2 and just freeze the below process with titanium(paid version) or root uninstaller(free version) apps from the market.
"software update"
Try this if your battery last then usual thank me.
You can also stop the service from application menu but its auto starts so.....try those apps.
Thank you.
jony013 said:
After trying too many fixes from various thread I am really unhappy about the battery drain issue of my SGS2.
Here is a fix which makes me happy at last. You all who facing this problem can try this. This works best when you are with custom roms. But stock also shows improvement.
Just freeze the below process with titanium(paid version) or root uninstaller(its free) apps from the market.
"software update"
Try this if your battery last then usual thank me.
You can also stop the service from application menu but its auto starts so.....try those apps.
Thank you.
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Interesting mate,
Always worth a shot)
apparently you need to have root the phone to be able to do it with root uninstaller
jony013 said:
After trying too many fixes from various thread I am really unhappy about the battery drain issue of my SGS2.
Here is a fix which makes me happy at last. You all who facing this problem can try this. This works best when you are with custom roms. But stock also shows improvement.
Just freeze the below process with titanium(paid version) or root uninstaller(its free) apps from the market.
"software update"
Try this if your battery last then usual thank me.
You can also stop the service from application menu but its auto starts so.....try those apps.
Thank you.
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Have just frozen, will report back in a couple of days.
Previous posts suggest the same reason seems to be that its always trying to connect .
jje
Yea...its the only service that always trying to connect to the Samsung server. I tested the whole process and mega battery drain in custom rom happens by this process. and also for stock you will see improvement if you freeze the process.
greigster said:
Have just frozen, will report back in a couple of days.
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thanks....but 24 hours would be good and if you stopped the service from the application menu its auto starts. so freeze that.
I have just installed watchdog monitoring app,you can specify tho Samsung update app to be killed at a certain threshold by adding it to vlog blacklist the threshold for me is ok at 1% it never runs!
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honestly, if you guys really feel the need for better battery life I would try pulser's VillainRom. I'm getting easily a 1 day 15 hours for normal usage out of my phone.
Is Software Update a Samsung service or Android's own updater? Wouldn't want to block Android's.
I've already frozen Wifi Sharing and most Samsung apps, and already seeing a 12 hour+ improvement of battery life.
Can someone confirm my first question, please? Thanks.
MustNotSleep said:
Is Software Update a Samsung service or Android's own updater? Wouldn't want to block Android's.
I've already frozen Wifi Sharing and most Samsung apps, and already seeing a 12 hour+ improvement of battery life.
Can someone confirm my first question, please? Thanks.
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12hr+ improvement? You serious? You gained 12 hours of extra battery life?1
rantzzz said:
12hr+ improvement? You serious? You gained 12 hours of extra battery life?1
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12+........are you stopped the update service also????
YES!!!!!!
jony013 said:
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1st you have to root your SGS2 and just freeze the below process with titanium(paid version) or root uninstaller(free version) apps from the market.
"software update"
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Yes! This is the only solution that works for me!
I've tried everything, and I always spend at least 10mA. Now I spend 1mA-2mA (with data or wifi on). In one day I'll publish the the battery graph.
I'm also using autostarts to prevent some processes run.
(sorry for my english)
icecubix2 said:
Yes! This is the only solution that works for me!
I've tried everything, and I always spend at least 10mA. Now I spend 1mA-2mA (with data or wifi on). In one day I'll publish the the battery graph.
I'm also using autostarts to prevent some processes run.
(sorry for my english)
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Hi there, how do you measure the power consumption of the phone?
deas not help me, still get 12h and that's it, with every ROM i had now. (lightnig , con, E7 stock..)
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12hr+ improvement? You serious? You gained 12 hours of extra battery life?1
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12+........are you stopped the update service also????
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Yup, something like that. Before I used to get around 10-12 hours on moderate usage (from 100% to critical <5%), and now I can pretty much go for full 24 hours. This is on stock (rooted) XWKE7 rom with stock launcher, just by freezing all Samsung hubs and WiFi Sharing services. Also remember to be moderate about your widget and Live Wallpaper usage, as well as setting your screen to automatic or low brightness. I have removed most default widgets and have a no-frills LWP.
Samsung apps really eat through your battery.
Anyway, is Software Update Samsung's or Android's updater? Anyone know?
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Hi there, how do you measure the power consumption of the phone?
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With Battery Monitor Widget Pro (free version). There is a graphic for mA.
I got down to 1mA, but occasionally get back to 20mA of comsumption and I have to kill tasks with task killer pro.
MustNotSleep said:
Is Software Update a Samsung service or Android's own updater? Wouldn't want to block Android's.
I've already frozen Wifi Sharing and most Samsung apps, and already seeing a 12 hour+ improvement of battery life.
Can someone confirm my first question, please? Thanks.
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Could you please provide me with list of samsung apps that are taking battery and can be frozen? Thanks mate!
Thanks for the tip.
Did the trick for me. Easily 10-15 extra hours.
With the very same usage and brightness level as the SGS1, would the SGS2 have the same battery life or better?
Hi Guys,
I am on ICS 4.0.4 and my S3 shows 779 MB, which is always busied by 680 or so!!!
I checked an S2 with ICS 4.0.4 and the memory is 830, and is busied by 450 on average. (S2 has larger memory than S3 on ICS4.0.4???)
So what is wrong with the S3 memory? i keep on killing apps all day and night to bring it to 450 or around, I dont have too many programs, and, i am not using except two widgets, checking on the background processes annd programs, most of the system's stuff is running on its own, even if i freeze some using Titanium pro.
Anyone has the same problem (if i can call it a problem?!) is that normal??!
Why would you consider it as a problem? Android is best at multitasking. You don't have to kill apps, its the nature of the beast so to speak to have a semblance of the apps running in the background for your convenience.
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Bigger screen and stuff like Smart stay and S voice eat up extra Ram.
Yeah it's really dumb to kill apps and clear ram the whole time, phone will feel sluggish because it needs to fore up stuff all the time that would normally sit kindly and wait for you in ram... You are making your phone slow and killing your battery
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Okay, i got it, No more killing APPS , now the question is, how come the S2 has more overall ram than the super S3, on ICS4.0.4??? considering the 779MB to the 830? its just a noob question
gennoz said:
Q: Whats up with the ram?
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Q: What's up with searching the forum?
Why are people asking the same questions over and over again?
i flashed mine with stock I9300XXALF2 now my average ram usage has dropped by at least 150mb & is much snappier on the home screen redraw
goodie said:
i flashed mine with stock I9300XXALF2 now my average ram usage has dropped by at least 150mb & is much snappier on the home screen redraw
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Thanks for the tip, im kinda new here, i am trying my best to read on before getting bullied by someone like up there but, eh, still not doing it right.
Anyways, i found two posts, one about a stock ALF2, and the other talking about deoxed and oxed .
What is the difference between :
GT-I9300_WanamLite.Stock.Deodexed.XXALF2.NO-WIPE.zip
GT-I9300_WanamLite.Stock.Odexed.XXALF2.NO-WIPE.zip
gennoz said:
Thanks for the tip, im kinda new here, i am trying my best to read on before getting bullied by someone like up there but, eh, still not doing it right.
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Bullied?
Try reading the rules before posting. Rule number 1 is search before asking a question. Now you're asking the difference between odexed and deodexed... Do you seriously think you're the only person who has asked this? It's discussed EVERYWHERE!
gennoz said:
Thanks for the tip, im kinda new here, i am trying my best to read on before getting bullied by someone like up there but, eh, still not doing it right.
Anyways, i found two posts, one about a stock ALF2, and the other talking about deoxed and oxed .
What is the difference between :
GT-I9300_WanamLite.Stock.Deodexed.XXALF2.NO-WIPE.zip
GT-I9300_WanamLite.Stock.Odexed.XXALF2.NO-WIPE.zip
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Deodexed ROMs have their .apk's (which are basically the application packages) repackaged in a certain way. An "odex" can be thought of as a collection of parts of applications that have been pulled out and optimized before booting. This speeds up the boot process - in a way, it preloads part of the applications - but it also makes hacking those apps difficult because part of the original code is already extracted somewhere else.
Deodexing is just a process of putting those pieces back into the original applications. It takes a while to extract those parts and build the .dex cache (aka Dalvik cache), but only because the relevant parts aren't in an easy-to-access place for the system. The advantage of this is that an app can be modified effectively and the developer doesn't have to worry about conflicts from the separate odex part of the code.
So, short version: "Deodexed" ROMs have all their apps put back together. If an app can be themed, for example, a deodexed version of that app will not get messed up when the modified .apk tries to mesh with the odex of the original un-modified .apk. Because it's not there.
If you want an aftermarket theme, you need a deodexed ROM. I'm not sure if deodexing can be done to individual apps within a non-deodexed ROM.
The search on the site is horrible. I use Google and type xda after anything I'm looking for
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Roastario said:
Deodexed ROMs have their .apk's (which are basically the application packages) repackaged in a certain way. An "odex" can be thought of as a collection of parts of applications that have been pulled out and optimized before booting. This speeds up the boot process - in a way, it preloads part of the applications - but it also makes hacking those apps difficult because part of the original code is already extracted somewhere else.
Deodexing is just a process of putting those pieces back into the original applications. It takes a while to extract those parts and build the .dex cache (aka Dalvik cache), but only because the relevant parts aren't in an easy-to-access place for the system. The advantage of this is that an app can be modified effectively and the developer doesn't have to worry about conflicts from the separate odex part of the code.
So, short version: "Deodexed" ROMs have all their apps put back together. If an app can be themed, for example, a deodexed version of that app will not get messed up when the modified .apk tries to mesh with the odex of the original un-modified .apk. Because it's not there.
If you want an aftermarket theme, you need a deodexed ROM. I'm not sure if deodexing can be done to individual apps within a non-deodexed ROM.
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Wow, seriously thanks for your time
Query on RAM....
norpan111 said:
Yeah it's really dumb to kill apps and clear ram the whole time, phone will feel sluggish because it needs to fore up stuff all the time that would normally sit kindly and wait for you in ram... You are making your phone slow and killing your battery
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Dude... My s3 ram in task manager is showing 883..... previously it was 779mb.... i donno wat would b the cause for this.... i have updated to jelly bean.... please ans my query....
Roastario said:
So, short version: "Deodexed" ROMs have all their apps put back together. If an app can be themed, for example, a deodexed version of that app will not get messed up when the modified .apk tries to mesh with the odex of the original un-modified .apk. Because it's not there.
If you want an aftermarket theme, you need a deodexed ROM. I'm not sure if deodexing can be done to individual apps within a non-deodexed ROM.
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I suppose "standard ROMS" have no apps or anything in the "Dalvik cache" ? (as all apps have "stand-alone" APK's ?) ... correct ?
well, I guess its widely know how android manages memory, and clearing ram is more of a performance inhibitor than a booster. I gave up all hope when I took my s3 to the service center and was given the solution of clearing the RAM repeatedly to solve the horrible ram issue.
the problem i was and still am facing is, the ram usage increases automatically within few hours of usage with hardly any apps installed. its extreme as it crosses 790mb and stays in that range. whats bad is apps keep on restarting in the background, phone slows down terribly ( switching between apps, moving out of an app just to stare at the app drawer 3-4 secs for all the apps to load, even the keyboard takes time to pop up). So moderate ram usage is good, but high ram usage is bad especially when it causes to slow down basic use. now what problem i am left with is deciding whether to root and flash a custom ROM and void the warranty on my one month old device, as both the times i revisited the service center the only thing the guy did was format and reload the firmware, which didn't solve anything. this was prevalent on stock ICS as well after the JB update via kies. as a last resort I am thinking of trying an official firmware from another region. as Indian one was causing the issue. my friend got his s3 from saudi and he hasnt had such severe problem(certain sluggishness is acceptable on a bloated stock firmware). so i am thinking of flashing that firmware. is it safe to do that? and i wouldnt need root access for that right, only odin and the firmware correct?
noobee1 said:
well, I guess its widely know how android manages memory, and clearing ram is more of a performance inhibitor than a booster. I gave up all hope when I took my s3 to the service center and was given the solution of clearing the RAM repeatedly to solve the horrible ram issue.
the problem i was and still am facing is, the ram usage increases automatically within few hours of usage with hardly any apps installed. its extreme as it crosses 790mb and stays in that range. whats bad is apps keep on restarting in the background, phone slows down terribly ( switching between apps, moving out of an app just to stare at the app drawer 3-4 secs for all the apps to load, even the keyboard takes time to pop up). So moderate ram usage is good, but high ram usage is bad especially when it causes to slow down basic use. now what problem i am left with is deciding whether to root and flash a custom ROM and void the warranty on my one month old device, as both the times i revisited the service center the only thing the guy did was format and reload the firmware, which didn't solve anything. this was prevalent on stock ICS as well after the JB update via kies. as a last resort I am thinking of trying an official firmware from another region. as Indian one was causing the issue. my friend got his s3 from saudi and he hasnt had such severe problem(certain sluggishness is acceptable on a bloated stock firmware). so i am thinking of flashing that firmware. is it safe to do that? and i wouldnt need root access for that right, only odin and the firmware correct?
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Generally RAM usage depends a lot on running widgets.
I personally use only one widget on screen at all times. (Google search) which is enough to get the job done for anything. And I run only 3 home screens
I would usually have about 200 free ram
Also Im on Omega 34 rom which is by far best (In my opinion for RAM management). It automates in such a way that 200mb ram is free at all times.
I really dont care much about warranty ,the first thing I do when I get an android device is to root it. (You do know you can unroot right ?)
So if RAM is really so important to you its best to root.
corleno said:
Generally RAM usage depends a lot on running widgets.
I personally use only one widget on screen at all times. (Google search) which is enough to get the job done for anything. And I run only 3 home screens
I would usually have about 200 free ram
Also Im on Omega 34 rom which is by far best (In my opinion for RAM management). It automates in such a way that 200mb ram is free at all times.
I really dont care much about warranty ,the first thing I do when I get an android device is to root it. (You do know you can unroot right ?)
So if RAM is really so important to you its best to root.
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yes I am well aware of rooting/un-rooting and other basics, had done all that on my S2(i9100), also found it more fun and efficient than stock but time is the only factor that's stopping me from experimenting. and thanks for the omega tip. I am certainly going to flash a custom ROM, after trying out few official ones, When I do, I would definitely go for Omega, alot of people recommending that one.
Omega is good as is WanamLite, Foxhound and Hyperlight. Smoothest I've used were Foxhound and Omega although I'm running WanamLite at the moment. Smoothest version I've used.
Hi all, the available memory on my device is low at 770mb. What happened to the rest of the 256mb? Is it for graphics? Because of this my ram usage is always around 90% and I have go to the task manager to clean up every couple of hours. Is there a way to get that ram back? I am running the blackstar 2.1 rom with minimal apps but still the ram usage is as high as the stock rom.
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Why not search? This has been answered numerous times.
dehaani said:
Why not search? This has been answered numerous times.
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I tried many times from this app... No results :-(. Will try fro. I the browser.
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The rest is to run the OS processes.
Don't worry mate. That is normal. Android will free the memory for you if it's needed.
It does make the phone laggy though. No getting away from it. Despite getting excited about getting this phone I wanna go back to my S2 which is so much faster than the S3. Quad core counts for nothing btw and is just a marketing thing.
Hey Guys
i have the same problem and i feel like i wanna go back to my old galaxy s2
it keeps lagging when exiting any application "the applications grid show up after 2 or 3 seconds
i think its a big issue without fix till now i searched a lot
i removed most the applications but no response
please help
There is a Fix for this.
I had this same issue until i flashed this fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812668
now i chrome browser never shuts down when heavy browsing, and i never have to close apps again.
Just what it says. I've had my Galaxy S3 for 4 days and I've noticed that I only ever have about 100mbs (out of 800) free on my phone at any one time.
On my SGS2 I have over 300mb even with many games/apps running.
Sure my SGS3 is far faster than my SGS2 but when it comes to Web surfing and watching flash videos on pages, as well as just browsing around the home screen sometimes the phone gets so low on memory that it just starts to randomly kill apps that I have open. Apps like: Avast (which I don't use for the Anti-virus but for the extensive Anti-theft protection), Viber - which I use for making and receiving VoIP calls and Tasker. Which I use for automating things.
Surely a phone like this needs RAM I'm sure. But leaving me with just 100mbs spare for everything else can't be right can it?
I don't have many things running. Just the normal stuff. The main point is that my SGS2 could easily handle all this.
Anyone else having the same problem? Is there anything I can do? I use the Opera Mobile (not lite) browser.
I'd be happy to provide more information if needed. I'm pretty gutted over this. Battery life is lovely but the phone's performance grinds to a total halt when it clears its RAM... Which I never did manually on my SGS2 because it drains battery when it caches everything instantly again anyway.
Thanks so much in advance.
P.S. I can't find a 'task manager' app anywhere. I know if hold down the home button that I can access the task manager by pressing 'task manager' but that doesn't show me anything useful like what the SGS2 does. I can't exit apps or see how much RAM and CPU they are using or anything. Does the SGS3 really not have this option??
Touchwiz for s3 is heavy! Normally you shouldn't worry about ram on Android but touchwiz is really little much... I would recommend cm9 maybe.. Lightweight and fast
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Free ram is wasted ram, that is all
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Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
Ram handling is clearly flawed in SGS 3, lets hope the is no HW bug.
Hopefully future updates will fix the leaking memory.
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
leijonasisu said:
Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
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What are you even doing here? I'm running custom rom and the killing of apps is gone.
To those people spamming about "free ram is wasted ram" that is true BUT samsung set their priorities wrong to start killing apps you use, since touchwiz is pretty big it kills the apps you need instead. On cm9 the ram can be used for cache for stuff you actually need and use. This dude having issues with multitasking due to bad priorities wich is solved by mods / custom roms.. If you not are willing to try that I have no clue why you ask in xda for help.
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leijonasisu said:
Just what it says. I've had my Galaxy S3 for 4 days and I've noticed that I only ever have about 100mbs (out of 800) free on my phone at any one time.
On my SGS2 I have over 300mb even with many games/apps running.
Sure my SGS3 is far faster than my SGS2 but when it comes to Web surfing and watching flash videos on pages, as well as just browsing around the home screen sometimes the phone gets so low on memory that it just starts to randomly kill apps that I have open. Apps like: Avast (which I don't use for the Anti-virus but for the extensive Anti-theft protection), Viber - which I use for making and receiving VoIP calls and Tasker. Which I use for automating things.
Surely a phone like this needs RAM I'm sure. But leaving me with just 100mbs spare for everything else can't be right can it?
I don't have many things running. Just the normal stuff. The main point is that my SGS2 could easily handle all this.
Anyone else having the same problem? Is there anything I can do? I use the Opera Mobile (not lite) browser.
I'd be happy to provide more information if needed. I'm pretty gutted over this. Battery life is lovely but the phone's performance grinds to a total halt when it clears its RAM... Which I never did manually on my SGS2 because it drains battery when it caches everything instantly again anyway.
Thanks so much in advance.
P.S. I can't find a 'task manager' app anywhere. I know if hold down the home button that I can access the task manager by pressing 'task manager' but that doesn't show me anything useful like what the SGS2 does. I can't exit apps or see how much RAM and CPU they are using or anything. Does the SGS3 really not have this option??
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Maybe free ram in android is wasted ram, but only if the ram is used for USEFUL apps. Samsung have made a lot of stupid apps run in the background at all time, like softwareupdate, Chaton, some clud service process, AllShare Service, and a lot more (google maps also run at any given time, eating 30 mb of ram). All of this apps run in the background and take up a lot of ram, even tho I NEVER use this apps. All of these running apps, prevent the apps that I USE from being kept in the ram, and thus leads to a longer load time (f.x. Handcent SMS take a sec or 2 to load if it is not already loaded in the ram). What I did was to download Autostarts from the market and prevent these apps from starting up by themself, and thus I made room for the apps I use to be kept in the ram. However, be carefull, disabling apps from starting up (especially system apps), can cause problems!
Lennyuk said:
Free ram is wasted ram, that is all
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If someone has 300MB free ram and is asking about freeing up more ram this makes sense.
If free ram is always <100mb then there's a memory management problem.
OP try disabling unused apps in the app manager, streamline startup apps and use gemini to turn off auto launching of unneeded apps.
On stock I used to have about 150-200MB free ram at boot. With CM9 and 10 i get 300-400MB free RAM at boot.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
leijonasisu said:
Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
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Just freeze all of the bloatware. Install a good custom kernel (eg Siyah) and move on! No one to blame but yourself for not doing that or wanting to.
Android is doing its job just fine with memory. It's just bogged down by Samsung and vendor crapware.
Be lucky you ain't in the US, DHS big brother software becoming mandatory soon lol
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tsangwc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
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mant thanks for your post, wasn't awared about this 2 topics... :good:
dfMails said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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This has nothing to do with the issues op is facing, stop spamming all these in threads without reading the op at least.. I'm not talking to you directly but to everyone that just reads topic and "free ram wasted ram!"
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norpan111 said:
This has nothing to do with the issues op is facing, stop spamming all these in threads without reading the op at least.. I'm not talking to you directly but to everyone that just reads topic and "free ram wasted ram!"
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Tell me about it. Ive been here a week n already sick of all the 'You're a noob we're better than you' bs :-/
DocRambone said:
Ram handling is clearly flawed in SGS 3, lets hope the is no HW bug.
Hopefully future updates will fix the leaking memory.
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I can see that from just normal use. If any webpage is open with any sort of flash container my SGS3 just starts killing background apps and throwing "Low RAM" errors. I wonder if Jelly Bean will fix this issue?
jnr21 said:
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
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Excuse me but not everyone who asks questions in the XDA forums are idiots. I don't know what's with the attitude here of everyone with a couple of hundred posts but I'm not impressed. Knowing how RAM management works has NOTHING to do with this thread. The complaint in question here is that my phone is constantly running out of RAM and when it does it starts to kill background apps to free RAM which in turn grinds my phone down to a halt, and drains the battery excessively. Are you just here to get your post count up or something?
tsangwc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
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UGHHHH!!! READ WHOLE DAMN POST! NOT JUST THE THREAD LINE.. I don't care about if my phone has 3MB of RAM free all the time or not as long as it works without a hitch, what I care about is that my phone is killing background apps that I need open and then constantly reloading them over and over when I'm web browsing and sometimes when I'm just at the home-screen.
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What are you even doing here? If you not are willing to try that I have no clue why you ask in xda for help.
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XDA isn't just about modding/using custom roms etc. There are multiple sections on the forums here for discussion about other topics. Including asking general questions about the device... I use ROMs on my other phones where I can because I love them and I don't mind the constant updating I have to do. But on this phone, I don't want to use partially-unstable roms that require me to constantly flash my phone over and over again just to get features that are already working fine in the general release version. There is no guarantee that this problem will be fixed in a rom anyway and some of us don't like breaking our warranty. Even if it's child's-play to return the phone back to stock settings and renew the warranty.
kbkrogs said:
Maybe free ram in android is wasted ram, but only if the ram is used for USEFUL apps. Samsung have made a lot of stupid apps run in the background at all time, like software update, Chaton, some clud service process, AllShare Service, and a lot more (google maps also run at any given time, eating 30 mb of ram).
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I've frozen all of these... 'Talkback, OTA Updates, Bluetooth (I never use it) as well as turned off NFC and a bunch of other things etc. etc. etc. I don't have that much running in the background but my phone still bounces between 330MBs (after killing everything) of free RAM and under >90. (2 mins later after everything has reloaded) To which it then starts throwing warnings and killing apps I need.
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If someone has 300MB free ram and is asking about freeing up more ram this makes sense.
If free ram is always <100mb then there's a memory management problem.
OP try disabling unused apps in the app manager, streamline startup apps and use gemini to turn off auto launching of unneeded apps.
On stock I used to have about 150-200MB free ram at boot. With CM9 and 10 i get 300-400MB free RAM at boot.
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^This. THANKYOU! Finally someone who didn't just read the tagline and post stupid retorts like "This isn't Windows" etc. I thought I was being plenty clear enough when I stated that the problem I was talking about was the fact that the phone goes from blisteringly fast, to painstakingly slow whilst browsing.
Disabling ALL addons (Javascript, Flash etc). from running while browsing stops this from happening 99.9% of the time. I also removed Tasker, much to my displeasure and froze a few more apps and it seems to happen less now but I'm still hovering around the 'workable' part of my phone. Which makes me feel a bit displeased because I didn't buy a phone to be limited by what I can do with it...
dfMails said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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Thanks for being another jackass who posts unhelpful crap in threads without actually reading them at all. You might think you're doing people a favor but you're not, and if that's how you roll, then forums aren't the place for you.
KMino said:
Just freeze all of the bloatware. Install a good custom kernel (eg Siyah) and move on! No one to blame but yourself for not doing that or wanting to.
Android is doing its job just fine with memory. It's just bogged down by Samsung and vendor crapware.
Be lucky you ain't in the US, DHS big brother software becoming mandatory soon lol
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It's hard to freeze bloatware when you have a bunch of people posting in forums that they don't know half of what the apps on the SGS3 do and if they are safe to freeze or not. I've done some searches but it seems that most people are generally confused about what is safe or not to freeze. Same thing happened with the SGS2. When I got it I googled (and found this place) what I could freeze and found people nitpicking over what they should, and shouldn't freeze. I have frozen everything that I've found is safe to, from multiple threads on the forums here.
I'll go and read a thread though as to why it's a good idea to flash a new kernel. I'd rather not have any restrictions as it is anyway, so that will be my next step, thanks!
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Thanks a ton to anyone who gave me the time of day and didn't just slam up some copypaste drama that has nothing to do with this thread. Free RAM is wasted RAM but when there isn't enough free RAM that background apps start getting killed (and usually instantly reloaded) then it goes without saying phone gets slower, battery drains faster, performance loss etc.
Excuse my retarded attitude but this isn't even the 10th time here I've had to dodge people who just post crap without even reading anything, and then just move on and do the same thing over and over.
I'm going to flash a new kernel, cross my fingers and freeze a few more apps, turn plug-ins to 'on demand' and cross my fingers again.
Thanks again to everyone who really helped and peace. I added thanks to you guys.
leijonasisu said:
Thanks for being another jackass......""
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Thank you, the same to you!
jnr21 said:
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
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yeah. stop think like windows (even though windows 7 ram management is good). andoid load it's system/app in ram to provide faster response. but once you need it more, it will clear unused app to free more ram..not to worry about that..
ascariz said:
yeah. stop think like windows (even though windows 7 ram management is good). andoid load it's system/app in ram to provide faster response. but once you need it more, it will clear unused app to free more ram..not to worry about that..
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The problem begins when it start killing apps you are using instead of killing those bloated apps.
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Are you rooted?
If yes:
1 freeze all the bloatware
2 install v6supercharger and set lowmemorykiller values as low as possible
3 install hardswap script
4 you are done...
Now, make your own search, it is all in xda.
I gave you the hint, Nov it is up to you
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If anyone is experiencing this problem, I hope the following steps may help.
I would like to express my appreciation to XDA members, who have commended and helped out with this. Credits go to @LordManhattan and @abuihsan . Many thanks for your help.
1/ Do a re-flash: I always thought my device was a c6802, after I flashed c6833, it helped.
2/ Do a factory reset/ Cache wipe/ Dalvik Wipe/ in recovery or in the phone settings.
3/ Install SD-Maid and clean the mess from the programs, also take a look at APPCONTROL to see which is running. You can freeze it here.
4/ Install Performance control to Underclock your CPU. Believe me, 1.7Ghz is far too enough for all the tasks you need.
5/ Use more pwerful tool, like Titanium Backup to stop all the backgound-running apps. You just need to leave the one which were in GREEN color.
6/ Use Wakelock Detector to see which apps get your phone out of deepsleep. Mostly they are Facebook and Messenger. My advice: Disable Facebook notice and if you don't use chat quite often, don't install facebook messenger.
Hope these help.
Personally I had tried a lot of methods, including checking the processes and re-insert the memory card but no such helps. Therefore, if you need any advice or any comments, feel free to send me an PM or reply here, I will gladly help you out, like what the community had helped me our of my situation.
Hi everyone,
Recently I just bought a ZU from a local vendor here. It runs 4.2.2 with no problem. However, I want to get rid of the *new system update* and I also want to use the xperia Themes, I decided to upgrade to 4.3.
My phone model is C6802, and I chose the file here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453921
The upgrade went through fast and smooth, as I had experienced in many Sony devices.
However, after getting to 4.3, I had noticed some problems as follow:
+ Heat: Device heats up very fast, even left alone. Just imagine you have the phone on 100% battery lying on your table, a moment later it heats up and the battery drops dramatically.
+ Battery drop: Just as mentioned above, the battery drops quickly. I do not expect extreme battery life on this device, but since 4.3, it is too low, I can barely make it to 6 hours without doing anything consuming battery.
+ Process: When checking the battery, I notice that most of the process that takes up battery is Android OS, which nearly 50-60%. I use the phone frequently to answer SMS and call, sometimes play games. I think that the most used applications should be the bad-ass screen?
I am running on the 14.2.A.0.290 with R4B.
Anyone had experienced this problem before, or know a solution to fix? Will clearing the Dalvik Cache help? I had re-flash several times but the problem is still there.
Many thanks in advance.
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Sounds like somethings has gone wrong in the update process.
Have you tried backing up all your data and doing a factory reset?
I do not think clearing Dalvik will help you here, sounds like something else is acting up. You could try to install one of the apps designed to detect what is causing the wakelock.
I'm not at my Android tablet at the moment, but I think I used this when I had this problems myself on my Galaxy Note: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
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fjevel said:
Sounds like somethings has gone wrong in the update process.
Have you tried backing up all your data and doing a factory reset?
I do not think clearing Dalvik will help you here, sounds like something else is acting up. You could try to install one of the apps designed to detect what is causing the wakelock.
I'm not at my Android tablet at the moment, but I think I used this when I had this problems myself on my Galaxy Note:
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First of all, thanks for your reply and suggestion.
I had tried to flash the roms multiple times, but the problem still exists. Furthermore, I even flash back to 4.2.2 and the problem is still there. The phone heats up slowly and battery runs out pretty fast.
I had installed the Wakelock Detector on my device and I will update the situation tomorrow, I will leave it there for a night and see the status tomorrow.
Did you wipe after updating? I had the same issue when i updated to 4.3.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as he's been downgraded to 4.2.2 again, he'd have to wipe. At least that is how it was on my Xperia Z.
-KJ
this might not be related, but I've been noticing much worse battery life today than normal! i normally only drop about 50% in 24 hours, but today I've dropped 30% in just a few hours. Android OS seems to be doing it...
no real heat issue tho, maybe slightly warmer from whatever the OS is doing, but nothing too major. running stock rooted 4.3
had that on my Xperia Z on a 4.1 or 4.2 build (dunno which one). Sounds strange, but simply turning off the sync fixed the problem, give it a try :laugh:.
Hope it also helps on your XZU.
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Did you wipe after updating? I had the same issue when i updated to 4.3.
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At first I did not choose to wipe Data in Flashtool, then I flashed again, this time I checked everything.
the problem still exists.
UPDATE:
Yesterday after working hours, I had rooted and installed BetterBatteryStats, Performance Control to monitor the system. I also had WaveLockDetector and Titanium Backup installed.
It appeared that the CPU runs all the time, in the highest state (2.15 Ghz), the phone never goes to DeepSleep and Awake all the time.
On Performance control, I had underclocked the CPU to 1.5Ghz and the temperature seems to be cooler.
I had tried to freeze a lot of applications via Titanium backup but so such luck.
Still researching.
However, many thanks to your kind replies. At least I know that I'm not alone with this problem :good:
justsomebody said:
At first I did not choose to wipe Data in Flashtool, then I flashed again, this time I checked everything.
the problem still exists.
UPDATE:
Yesterday after working hours, I had rooted and installed BetterBatteryStats, Performance Control to monitor the system. I also had WaveLockDetector and Titanium Backup installed.
It appeared that the CPU runs all the time, in the highest state (2.15 Ghz), the phone never goes to DeepSleep and Awake all the time.
On Performance control, I had underclocked the CPU to 1.5Ghz and the temperature seems to be cooler.
I had tried to freeze a lot of applications via Titanium backup but so such luck.
Still researching.
However, many thanks to your kind replies. At least I know that I'm not alone with this problem :good:
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I ever had no deep sleep problem with 4.3, even in stamina and airplane mode, and with location-off too, I checked with BBS and found the 'trigger' is a process under google now app. I use GREENIFY and get the google now hybernated. Everything fines now and I still can use google now as it only hybernated when not in use : )
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I ever had no deep sleep problem with 4.3, even in stamina and airplane mode, and with location-off too, I checked with BBS and found the 'trigger' is a process under google now app.and get the google now hybernated. Everything fines now and I still can use google now as it only hybernated when not in use : )
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hey, thanks for your reply. I did the same to you, even with Titanium backup to ensure this will never shows up again, but CPU keeps throtlling at 100%. I still can not find an answer to this 100% thing. now the phone is quite hot in my pocket, I decided to put in my bag and even turn off to keep it from heating.
I will try another rom and update.
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hey, thanks for your reply. I did the same to you, even with Titanium backup to ensure this will never shows up again, but CPU keeps throtlling at 100%. I still can not find an answer to this 100% thing. now the phone is quite hot in my pocket, I decided to put in my bag and even turn off to keep it from heating.
I will try another rom and update.
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do you use any cleaner/task killer app? before trying other rom or update, maybe you need to uninstall it, reboot recovery and wipe cache and see the result.
I don't know if this is relevance but while using greenify I also uninstall the previous cleaner app and replace with another one that I think is better.
now my c6833 has great deep sleep.
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do you use any cleaner/task killer app? before trying other rom or update, maybe you need to uninstall it, reboot recovery and wipe cache and see the result.
I don't know if this is relevance but while using greenify I also uninstall the previous cleaner app and replace with another one that I think is better.
now my c6833 has great deep sleep.
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Hi, Thanks again for your advice.
Would you please give me the name of the cleaner apps that you think are way better?
Are you running on 4.3 stock or on some modified roms?
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Hi, Thanks again for your advice.
Would you please give me the name of the cleaner apps that you think are way better?
Are you running on 4.3 stock or on some modified roms?
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The thing is, you don't need a task killer/cleaner app. It was useful way back on Android 2.1/2.3, but you shouldn't use it at all on 4.0+. You're actually making things worse.
mine has been heating up as well. the battery isn't draining like how yours is, but any kind of use will heat the top back side of the phone. I checked and after killing all apps, my cpu load was still around 65%. is that normal? no custom flash here. locked bootloader. updated through pcc normally. I'd imagine this is why 4.3 isn't running as buttery smooth like everyone else.
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mine has been heating up as well. the battery isn't draining like how yours is, but any kind of use will heat the top back side of the phone. I checked and after killing all apps, my cpu load was still around 65%. is that normal? no custom flash here. locked bootloader. updated through pcc normally. I'd imagine this is why 4.3 isn't running as buttery smooth like everyone else.
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No, that's not normal. Mine's around 20-30 degress celsius (depending on what i'm doing). Even streaming 1080p videos shouldn't make it hot or even mildly hot. When i had the heating problem, two cores would always be stuck at 2150 MHz. Now one core is active at 960 MHz when the screen is on. CPU load is around 20 and 60% (single core). Temperature is currently at 26 degrees. Also, stop killing apps and processes. Most of them are set to start automatically, so when you kill them over and over again, they'll start again and they'll use even more battery. Android is built to manage resources very well on its own, and it's not operating like Windows or any other computer OS. Just leave it alone unless something has gone rouge and you don't have a choice.
I'm on stock 290, rooted and extremely debloated.
- Current battery level: 88%
- Current uptime: 3 h 30 min
- Current screentime: 1 hour (browsing etc.)
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No, that's not normal. Mine's around 20-30 degress celsius (depending on what i'm doing). Even streaming 1080p videos shouldn't make it hot or even mildly hot. When i had the heating problem, two cores would always be stuck at 2150 MHz. Now one core is active at 960 MHz when the screen is on. CPU load is around 20 and 60% (single core). Temperature is currently at 26 degrees. Also, stop killing apps and processes. Most of them are set to start automatically, so when you kill them over and over again, they'll start again and they'll use even more battery. Android is built to manage resources very well on its own, and it's not operating like Windows or any other computer OS. Just leave it alone unless something has gone rouge and you don't have a choice.
I'm on stock 290, rooted and extremely debloated.
- Current battery level: 88%
- Current uptime: 3 h 30 min
- Current screentime: 1 hour (browsing etc.)
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hmm... yea that sounds like the problem i am having. im noticing two cores stuck at 2150mhz with a third kicking in here and there. how were you able to fix it? just a fresh install of .290?
so as far as the apps go, i have Du Battery Saver installed and the "optimize" button is supposed to clear up some of the background junk. are you saying that i should leave the optimize button alone and just let android figure itself out?
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hmm... yea that sounds like the problem i am having. im noticing two cores stuck at 2150mhz with a third kicking in here and there. how were you able to fix it? just a fresh install of .290?
so as far as the apps go, i have Du Battery Saver installed and the "optimize" button is supposed to clear up some of the background junk. are you saying that i should leave the optimize button alone and just let android figure itself out?
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What i'm saying is that you should uninstall that crappy app. Task killers were useful three years ago when Android devices had slow processors and low amount of RAM. What you're doing now is killing everything everytime you tap that button. WHY do you want to do that? What's the point of having 2GB of RAM when you don't want to use it? Are you always killing processes on your computer too? Would you do it if your computer had 32GB of RAM with 30GB available? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Android is a modern OS that can handle this on its own. If you only have 300MB RAM left and you want to play Asphalt 8 which requires (i'm guessing) 500MB RAM, Android will find the oldest and less frequently used process and kill it. It's that easy.
You can read more about it here and here.
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What i'm saying is that you should uninstall that crappy app. Task killers were useful three years ago when Android devices had slow processors and low amount of RAM. What you're doing now is killing everything everytime you tap that button. WHY do you want to do that? What's the point of having 2GB of RAM when you don't want to use it? Are you always killing processes on your computer too? Would you do it if your computer had 32GB of RAM with 30GB available? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Android is a modern OS that can handle this on its own. If you only have 300MB RAM left and you want to play Asphalt 8 which requires (i'm guessing) 500MB RAM, Android will find the oldest and less frequently used process and kill it. It's that easy.
You can read more about it here and here.
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gotcha. I get what you're saying.
now that that is settled, what to do about the original problem? phone is still heating up.
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ij0rgei said:
gotcha. I get what you're saying.
now that that is settled, what to do about the original problem? phone is still heating up.
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I think it'll be a little easier if you tell us what you've done till now. We have no idea what you've tried and not tried.
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I think it'll be a little easier if you tell us what you've done till now. We have no idea what you've tried and not tried.
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ok. so I haven't done anything at all to remedy the situation. I figured I'd ask about it before messing it up myself. I upgraded to .290 via pcc. it updated fine with no errors. once it was done updating, it was hot and battery was diminished. I had seen on another thread that most people had that happened so I didn't see it as an issue, just a side effect of the update process.
I have been checking back to see if anyone was having heating issues with 4.3 after the update and didn't hear about it until I had seen this thread. the OP stated he flashed .290 on his 6802 and is rooted. I am not, so I wasn't sure if the steps he was taking were the same given my 6833 being completely stock.
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