1. How much take time to get full charge from 0 to 100.
My deviCe takes 2h and 50 min almost 3 hours n urs?
2.for the first time for how many hours to charg3 the battery and the 2nd times how many hours we should charge the battery and after 3rd time how many hours to charge the battery thnx
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When I first got the phone, I just plugged it in and charged AC until full (plus 30 mins) while powered off.
First full charge 4-100 (powered on) Approx 3 hr 22 mins.
Just on my 2nd charge now and waiting......
Just charge to full and done, best to not let the battery get to zero and force shutdown to prolong long-term battery life and performance.
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When I first got the phone, I just plugged it in and charged AC until full (plus 30 mins) while powered off.
First full charge 4-100 (powered on) Approx 3 hr 22 mins.
Just on my 2nd charge now and waiting......
Just charge to full and done, best to not let the battery get to zero and force shutdown to prolong long-term battery life and performance.
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Hi. I thought its the best if u leave the phones battery drain to zero and charge it to full and recycle it several times.
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Hi. I thought its the best if u leave the phones battery drain to zero and charge it to full and recycle it several times.
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This will make good reading for you and explain things better. Quite informative.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391186
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I thought its a lithium ion battery and so it doesn't matter if you charge it even its not at zero. I always understood with this kind of battery it doesn't effect battery life.
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I thought its a lithium ion battery and so it doesn't matter if you charge it even its not at zero. I always understood with this kind of battery it doesn't effect battery life.
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Bad for battery health. Read link in my above post or research Google for more info.
Basically zero is bad, the less depth of discharge, the higher number of charge cycles etc.
Charging uninterrupted (no bump charging) from near zero to 100% will help with battery calibration though.
Hope this helps
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I've only had my 3d for a few days but since day one it has taken forever for my battery to charge to a 100% . It will charge to 99% and stay there for what seems like an hour then when it finally hits a 100% it will start to discharge after about 5 minutes.
My question is, is this normal?
TIA for any help.
HTC handles charging differently than others. That is normal, don't worry about it. It will discharge a few percent and then top itself off again
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HTC handles charging differently than others. That is normal, don't worry about it. It will discharge a few percent and then top itself off again
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I know about the discharge but its the fact that it takes so long to hit a 100% from 99% .
But thanks for the reply I know you have to be busy with all your development.
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I know about the discharge but its the fact that it takes so long to hit a 100% from 99% .
But thanks for the reply I know you have to be busy with all your development.
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Mine does that weird part about it is when it dead dead and you throw it on the charger for 9hrs it still won't turn green lol.. I may have to let it sit there longer ... When I turn it on says 99% and still charging will hit 100% pretty quick and battery life lasts forever lol... It is normal tho for it to take awhile to hit 100 % and that discharge thing is normal too no worrys man..
Yeah, I guess it's HTC 'method' to charge the battery, although it makes no sense... I thought maybe it was something to do with the stock battery, so I bought 'Platinum' series 1900mAh the other day and it still does the same things....
Not only taking an hour or so to go from 99 to 100 percent, but when I try to 'calibrate' the battery, it takes an additional 5 or 6 hours it seems. I charge it to 100, turn it off, plug it back in, and wait for the green light to come on again.... two or three hours later, it will finally turn green. If I only let it charge for an hour or so and turn it on, the battery will show 95%... absolutely ridiculous. I don't ever remember the Evo being like that. The battery charging on the 3D is just stupid, in my opinion
I recently purchased the Anker battery for my Amaze. I've done the suggested 4 full battery drains and charge, but I've noticed something odd. Right after taking my phone off the charger, the % drops pretty rapidly, roughly 10% in about 30 min, with almost no usage. The level continues to drop pretty rapidly till the % gets down to about 70%, where it seems to stabilize, and drop at a slower rate. Anyone else seen this issue, or know what might be causing it?
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Mine does it too. But it stabilizes around 80% and I can get a good 16hrs with moderate-high usage and about 3hrs screen time. I was reading somewhere that this is a common issue with Anker Batteries.
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Ok, good to know I'm not the only one! Lol.
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Yeah. Same here. I believe it is a driver issue since the battery is not OEM.
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Yeah. Same here. I believe it is a driver issue since the battery is not OEM.
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yap, and the Anker battery is way better than the stock one.
I agree! Once it levels out somewhere around 80%ish, the battery life is amazing! A great investment indeed!
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This isn't a problem with your specific battery, it has to with overcharge prevention.
Essentially, once your battery is fully charged and the LED on your phone flashes green, the phone's battery is no longer charging, and it is actually running on stand-by off of the battery. Perpetually trickle charging the battery would shorten the life of it.
As a result, the battery consumes some energy while the device is in stand-by, but until the device reaches 80% or so, it doesn't start to re-charge. Because it is still plugged in, the device is reporting a full battery, even if it has been running on stand-by for hours on that charge.
There are kernel modifications that can change this, but unless it's an issue for you, I would avoid doing so for the long term preservation of your battery.
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This isn't a problem with your specific battery, it has to with overcharge prevention.
Essentially, once your battery is fully charged and the LED on your phone flashes green, the phone's battery is no longer charging, and it is actually running on stand-by off of the battery. Perpetually trickle charging the battery would shorten the life of it.
As a result, the battery consumes some energy while the device is in stand-by, but until the device reaches 80% or so, it doesn't start to re-charge. Because it is still plugged in, the device is reporting a full battery, even if it has been running on stand-by for hours on that charge.
There are kernel modifications that can change this, but unless it's an issue for you, I would avoid doing so for the long term preservation of your battery.
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Thanks for the explanation!! Kernel mods?? Um, I'll pass... Lol. I can definitely live with it! I'm getting 14+ hrs with moderate-heavy use!
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Could it be the voltage?
I know that the stock amaze battery is a higher voltage than a normal lithium ion (normal is 4.2v, the stock amaze battery is the newish 4.3v lithium ions)
I did a quick search and found something similar with the sensation..
Someone in said thread even mentions voltage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1319605.html
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yap, and the Anker battery is way better than the stock one.
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I have two Anker batteries, bought at the same time. Both were conditions per instructions. One of them has great battery time, the other has very poor battery time. I think it is hit or miss with these batteries.
If you're interested, I think you'd be able to get that stabilization (after then initial drop) a little higher if you tried calibrating as per here. I'm at about 90 for the one I calibrated, 80 for the other.
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If you're interested, I think you'd be able to get that stabilization (after then initial drop) a little higher if you tried calibrating as per here. I'm at about 90 for the one I calibrated, 80 for the other.
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Yes, I have done that - it is the instructions that came with the batteries.
Sorry, that was directed at the op, and fwiw conditioning (as per the Anker instructions) is separate from calibration.
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try using the battery calibration app. that always resolves battery issues when flashing new roms (at least for me it does)
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try using the battery calibration app. that always resolves battery issues when flashing new roms (at least for me it does)
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Yes, I do that also, but this has not helped that 2nd Anker battery.
Just got an S3.
Do you have any pointers to charging and battery practice tips?
Battery came half-full. I charged until full, it just turned 100% and green led.
I now intend to use it until drained, then charge it back up overnight.
Does this full/drain cycle sound like a good idea to you? Would you have drained the battery from new to empty? Same thing, right? As long as there is a pattern to touch the empty and full ends?
No point in those first charges. Mine came at 40% and when it went to 15 I charges it. NO problems or whatsoever
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Charge to full and use the phone do not drain ever .
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There were tips given on how to handle li-ion batteries, here are some that i follow
-never charge above 20%
-never bump charge
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It doesn't matter with these modern batteries. Just charge it anyway you want, use your phone anyway you want. Won't make a difference.
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It doesn't matter with these modern batteries. Just charge it anyway you want, use your phone anyway you want. Won't make a difference.
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+1 that 20% is a load in of crap, that means you would not be able to plug your phone in to the computer for file transfer unless you have -20% battery cos the computer will charge it.
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Whatever you say boss
@OP, you might wanna take a look at this thread.. it may be of interest to you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914417
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It should be allowed to charge for 7-8 hours on the first.
Thanks for everybody's input. I think I've got our down now Lol. But I'd like to keep the discussion open for anyone that would like to be better informed.
New topic: Tips & Tricks for getting the most out of your battery.
Thanks guys!
Don't run it dead regularly (that was for ni batteries), don't charge it all the time (ie topping off everytime you're near a charger). If going to store powered down for long periods do so at like %60 capacity.
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Don't run it dead regularly (that was for ni batteries), don't charge it all the time (ie topping off everytime you're near a charger). If going to store powered down for long periods do so at like %60 capacity.
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Just to clarify, you saying to not charge when battery it has more than 60% charge remaining? If yes. Then how low do you recommend as to minimum charge left on battery when you plug it in?
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It's been a while since I have actually cared about a phone enough to really want to take care of every part of it, including the battery, and I was wondering what the best way to keep it fresh is?
Use until it dies and fully charge every time.
Use until low power warning and recharge.
idk what other methods there are....
Anyway, appreciate any and all tips guys:good:
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Best way is to not worry about it. Only thing you want to avoid is letting it die in standby over and over.
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Just to clarify, you saying to not charge when battery it has more than 60% charge remaining? If yes. Then how low do you recommend as to minimum charge left on battery when you plug it in?
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Sorry I was so brief was at work on lunch.
In the ideal world you'd probably charge around %20-%30. Lithium batteries do not like being over drained or overcharged. Overcharging isn't really an issue since our phone handles charging. Over draining repeatedly will drain max capacity, same with overcharging. The %60 i refer to is a rough number if you were going to be storing the phone powered off for weeks or months, lithium batteries should not be stored at max voltage or drained.
You don't want to be constantly "topping" your battery off either. The life of a lithium battery is generally going to be measured in charge cycles. So charging it every time you're sitting at a charger will really just wear it out faster.
I generally just charge my phone every night when i go to bed. With as long as these phones last on a charge; I've yet to burn through my entire battery in less than a day more than a time or two. Don't put too much thought into it or worry too terribly much. Running it down once or twice isn't going to do much that you'd immediately notice, but doing it every time is certainly not a good idea!
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Sorry I was so brief was at work on lunch.
In the ideal world you'd probably charge around %20-%30. Lithium batteries do not like being over drained or overcharged. Overcharging isn't really an issue since our phone handles charging. Over draining repeatedly will drain max capacity, same with overcharging. The %60 i refer to is a rough number if you were going to be storing the phone powered off for weeks or months, lithium batteries should not be stored at max voltage or drained.
You don't want to be constantly "topping" your battery off either. The life of a lithium battery is generally going to be measured in charge cycles. So charging it every time you're sitting at a charger will really just wear it out faster.
I generally just charge my phone every night when i go to bed. With as long as these phones last on a charge; I've yet to burn through my entire battery in less than a day more than a time or two. Don't put too much thought into it or worry too terribly much. Running it down once or twice isn't going to do much that you'd immediately notice, but doing it every time is certainly not a good idea!
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Okay. Thanks for all the info. It really helps to know that stuff. I'm not to worried about burning through charge cycles. I'm getting 2-3 days of a charge. 4 if I drain it. Battery on this is the best I have even seen. Truly incredible. I don't know how they managed it. But I am absolutely loving it.
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The only thing you need to worry about is not letting your battery reach below 14%. Unless your out or not near a charger it's understandable.
Charge your phone once it hits 14%. Let it fully charge don't interrupt it (unless you have too)
Sometimes don't charge your device to 100% I sometimes charge mines to 90%.
Let the battery die once or twice a month.
Just don't worry about the battery. By time you hit anywhere near 500 charge cycles you'll be on the m9 or a new device.
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The only thing you need to worry about is not letting your battery reach below 14%. Unless your out or not near a charger it's understandable.
Charge your phone once it hits 14%. Let it fully charge don't interrupt it (unless you have too)
Sometimes don't charge your device to 100% I sometimes charge mines to 90%.
Let the battery die once or twice a month.
Just don't worry about the battery. By time you hit anywhere near 500 charge cycles you'll be on the m9 or a new device.
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Why would you only charge to %90? And why would you let it die once a month?
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Why would you only charge to %90? And why would you let it die once a month?
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Because you wanna train your battery and get the most out of it. A lot of people say those are old rules because these batteries don't have memory cells. But you'll find yourself not needing to replace the battery as fast as you would by just letting it die all the time
I have replaced a cell phone battery yet and I've been using that method since flip phones days
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Because you wanna train your battery and get the most out of it. A lot of people say those are old rules because these batteries don't have memory cells. But you'll find yourself not needing to replace the battery as fast as you would by just letting it die all the time
I have replaced a cell phone battery yet and I've been using that method since flip phones days
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Hhrrmmm. i think you're thinking of nickel based batteries (nicd, nimh, etc). Generally lithium cells really dont like low voltages or have memory.
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Hhrrmmm. i think you're thinking of nickel based batteries (nicd, nimh, etc). Generally lithium cells really dont like low voltages or have memory.
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I think he's correct on the letting it die once every month or so. I did a lot of research on this a while back and ideally you don't let your phone drop below 50% regularly and don't let it sit on the charger all night since its going to be at 100% for many hours before you wake up a li ion batteries prefer to not be at 100%. The discharging it fully will calibrate it and make sure all the cells are being used since if certain cells don't get discharged every so often they start to lose ability to hold a charge. Keep in mind I looked all this up 2 years ago and most of the issues only affect people who keep phones for 2+ years unless the do 100%-0% every day then their battery won't last long.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
These phones all have battery protection circuitry built into them.
As the battery approaches 100% charge the charge current reduces to almost nothing to prevent overcharging.
Having said this I would not leave the phone on charge for weeks on end but there is really no reason to worry about taking it off charge the moment it shows 100%.
Likewise for discharge. When the phone indicates that the battery is getting flat it will make sure that even if you run the phone till it dies, the battery will not have been allowed to overdischarge. When your phone switches off software is telling the phone to power down to protect the battery.
Also, to touch upon Lithium battery charge cycles, one charge cycle is the 100% charging of the battery, now keep in mind this can be from 0-100% OR it can also be the sum of multiple chargings up to 100% capacity of the battery
I.e.- charging from 75% to 100% once is not considered a charge cycle to the battery, but do it three more times from 75% (25%x4=100%"rated" capacity) and it considers THAT one charge cycle. So if you charge from 50% regularly, two times charging from 50 to 100% is ONE charging cycle.
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Just to clarify, you saying to not charge when battery it has more than 60% charge remaining? If yes. Then how low do you recommend as to minimum charge left on battery when you plug it in?
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Few months back I was speaking with HTC support, the rep said don't put your phone on charge for more then 1 hour with any lithium batteries.
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Few months back I was speaking with HTC support, the rep said don't put your phone on charge for more then 1 hour with any lithium batteries.
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Huh? You saying to only charge it in one hour increments?
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i think the battry in the HTC M8 is really good. it will last for a whole day with no issue. I have beeing testing it and actually I am happy with the resulet
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Few months back I was speaking with HTC support, the rep said don't put your phone on charge for more then 1 hour with any lithium batteries.
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As usual, speaking with reps can be cause for alarm. In this case, it's obvious he/she was blowing smoke. Read the links posted in the thread.
Updated OP. This is now more of a help thread for those who need it. Thanks for all the info and tips.
Let's keep it going guys!
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Hey..
I received my watch today and I read the manual and didn't see anything about charging time.so did you give it first time charge?how many hours it needs for first time?it is lithium ion and needs first charge...
And what's best method for charging li-ion? From low (10precent) to full(100) or between 40-80 precent charge only?
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Farid-1376 said:
Hey..
I received my watch today and I read the manual and didn't see anything about charging time.so did you give it first time charge?how many hours it needs for first time?it is lithium ion and needs first charge...
And what's best method for charging li-ion? From low (10precent) to full(100) or between 40-80 precent charge only?
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It will come with a certain amount of charge already, so it won't take long to get to 100%. I find that it takes less than a couple of hours to do a full charge from almost flat.
Ben.