I am strongly considering this phone as a sidegrade to my GS2. The lure of unthinkable battery life is making it very tempting. I just cant go back to GB. I know the ICS rollout is set for "end of Q2", but on Moto's support page it only makes reference to the USA. Since the GSM version is not a USA phone, what chances will I have of getting an official OTA anytime soon? I researched this, but it seams that there are not many of these devices currently being used in the US. Does anyone have any info to help with my decision or am I just best off waiting until its officially official?
Thank you.
Read the forums. Seems like the ICS upgrade is imminent for Latin America and coming for EU/Asia.
Is there actually a US spec GSM RAZR, or are you importing from overseas?
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Negri is selling an unlocked version that is compatible with ATT bands. Definitely an import.
Actually, there are GSM/UMTS radios in the Verizon Razr MAXX that have recently been enabled.
There's an article in PCWorld that I can't link too that I'm too much of a n00b to be able to post...
(pcworld dot com slash article/258233/verizon_gives_motorola_lte_razrs_their_gsm_wings.html)
I too would be interested if an unlocked Verizon Razr MAXX could be used on AT&T. garment69, have you had any luck? Did you make a decision?
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I too would be interested if an unlocked Verizon Razr MAXX could be used on AT&T. garment69, have you had any luck? Did you make a decision?
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It is probably locked to Vodafones SIMs.
Unlock? Attractive...
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It is probably locked to Vodafones SIMs.
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According to this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569055 the ICS update for the RAZR apparently unlocks the SIM slot.
Some further work may be required, as indicated by this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3 (scroll down to read the last two posts)
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Is it even possible to force a locked encrypted bootloader open? Is anyone trying this? I'd hate to see such a great phone be so limited due to this locked bootloader bs,not to mention there are more and more being locked up tight. Gotta get this sucker opened up!!!
Easy way to make sure Motorola sends devices with unlocked bootloader is to REFUSE to buy any motorola devices until unlocked. Enough said. So come on everyone. Return all those Razr's and lets force motorolas hand.
can anyone tell me how you know if you have a locked bootloader or not? i have a Razr xt910 from Claropr and i want to check this. thanks! my Razr came in a red motorola box with car charger and hdmi cable included.
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can anyone tell me how you know if you have a locked bootloader or not? i have a Razr xt910 from Claropr and i want to check this. thanks! my Razr came in a red motorola box with car charger and hdmi cable included.
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Boot into fastboot plug your phone into the computer and type
Fastboot oem unlock
On unlockable RAZR it will say something like unlock disabled
Might be different if phone is unlockable
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All locked until ICS update.
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Easy way to make sure Motorola sends devices with unlocked bootloader is to REFUSE to buy any motorola devices until unlocked. Enough said. So come on everyone. Return all those Razr's and lets force motorolas hand.
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Lmao.
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Now is that going to be a carrier option or is Moto going to make it RAZR wide.
It's carrier-dependent, and the rumor is that Verizon said no to it. We still have hope though, in methods similar to the Atrix.. But that's after ICS.
Why is it dependant on ICS??
fastboot oem unlock is disabled, meaning the bootloader is off limits until Moto starts unlocking international RAZRs (which is coming with ICS according to them) and we have that to use as reference.
I'm on INTL Retail RAZR so, no problem for me, but anyway...
....we should see the signatures on our RAZRs, if Verizon RAZR's signatures are the same, it will be possible to flash EU bootloader on VZW RAZR.
It's only a matter of time, but prior talking I(we) should have something in our hands for working (like FXZ/SBF).
i learned my lesson with the droid x even though i love the design of the razr my arsenal of phones are enough to keep me from upgrading my verizon line until the edge or something worth it comes out but good luck to your battles and may it get unlocked sooner then later
i love razr very much,but it said that 912's 3g do not work in china.
can this problem be workout when the ICS come?
sorry for my poor english
@calvin1731
Strange. The RAZR supports all the human known GSM/UMTS/HSPA frequencies.
Go check on MOTODEV, there's listed all phones' capabilities: if you find your operator's frequency on RAZR specs then there isn't any reason for it to not work.
@kholk
i use cdma network,so i must choose verzion razr.
but is said that verzion razr is locked,so it could not use evdo 3g and there isn't a chinese Language rom.
So in reading the latest news, I came across this article where Samsung states that Verizon specifically asked for a locked and encrypted bootloader for the new SGIII. In fact, the article stated they are the only carrier to ask for it.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ing-you-need-including-locked-bootloader.html
I know a lot of us feel like Motorola is not holding up their end of a promise, but perhaps it is a carrier-side issue. A little communication from Moto would help though.
I don't think it's any secret that it is the carriers that want locked boot loaders. Why would Motorola care one way or the other?
Wow, just wow. We got the only locked SG3.
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old news
thot this was old and not surprising news
verizon wants total control (monopoly and high prices)their excuse is people altering their phones can screw up their network....riiiight
i never blamed moto they only build what is ordered
And when I bought my phone unbranded and unlocked (international version) why is Motorola still locking my bootloader? I dont even live in the US.
Ya... no surprise vzw wants the bootloader locked! I think back to my evo on sprint... i had unlocked bootloader, and was able to use hotspot for free(sprint wants $30/mo) i was also able to flash full 3g verizon prl's.... what does that mean? I was able to use vzw towers 100% of the time roaming with full 3g data... that means sprint had to pay a lot of roaming fees, for me to try vzw's network b4 i actually made the plunge.... add that to the many other posibilities that an unlocked bootloader mames available, and i can see why they want a locked bootloader.
this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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No, all are not locked. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the HTC Rezound are both unlocked.
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No, all are not locked. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the HTC Rezound are both unlocked.
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thanks for the reply. but i am not just BLIND when I see there is very little development for the razr maxx?
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this razr maxx is my first verizon phone after coming from tmo... are all verizon android phones boot loader locked? is this the reason for such little development on this razr maxx? i didnt look into how healthy the dev for it was... and im going to miss swapping roms! i hate moto blur...
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Verizon phones are a little weird. The OG Motorola Droid was bootloader unlocked, as is the Motorola Xoom. HTC devices are typically locked but the bootloader can be unlocked (or bypassed) soon after released. At the end of 2011, HTC decided to unlocked all of their current phones (Thunderbolt, Rezound, etc). ALL Nexus' (any carrier / any Nexus) are unlocked. Google wont allow a Nexus device to be locked. Unfortunately a lot of other Samsung devices are locked. Hope that helps.
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My backup device is wifi only for a reason. I do not need verizon but for now the 1 line I have is good enough for all my phone needs and 69 bucks a month is about as cheap as you can get for a web phone.
The locked loader on the razr is an issue but rooted and an app turns on wifi tethering and works flawlessly, foxfi
they have a right to restrict but I will look to unlocked in the future, I expect to keep my razr for the forcible future. the battery in the maxx is no joke , 2 days using gps,wifi and data
I just wanted to say, I think our hard work with petitions and complaints along with the google buyout has finally turned the tables. We have possibly won the bootloader battle.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/motorola-to-allow-bootloader-unlocking-from-photon-q-4g-lte-on/
The photon Q will come out in august and be the first unlockable but the RAZR / MAXX will be unlockable soon after. This is amazing news I think, I have a feeling it has to do with the encription being nearly cracked and they decided to reduce the vulnreability and make it unlockable through them. And well admit it, we *****ed a lot about this.
Good news, but wait unlock before proclame victory
I doubt they'll allow older versions/handsets to unlock their bootloaders. Also you have to remember that Photon is releasing on Sprint so it is probably a deal they have made with the network thus allowing them to carry through with this. Regardless, I was hoping Motorola would live up to their targets of unlocking bootloaders and pushing the ICS updates out in their predicted timeframe. But looking at where we are now, I know well enough to take their announcements as a grain of sand and sadly this will be my first and last Motorola based Android device.
Beat me to it... I may not have my beloved RAZR anymore, but I wanted to share too...
http://androidcommunity.com/motorol...726/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)
http://android-gz.com
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-to-unlock-bootloaders-starting-with-the-photon-q-26240460/
Here's another.
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Didn't the Xoom tablet have an unlock option as stock? I think it's the very first thing I did when I got it? It did have a nice warranty warning from what I recall...
They've ready said they have no intention of unlocking past devices. We have still lost, Verizon will still never allow another unlocked device on their network. The GNex is the last.
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They've ready said they have no intention of unlocking past devices. We have still lost, Verizon will still never allow another unlocked device on their network. The GNex is the last.
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isn't the carrier unimportant if there's at least the retail version unlockable?
You would be correct, but Moto doesn't subsidize their products, most people won't spend $750-500 on a phone when they could get it for $200.
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You would be correct, but Moto doesn't subsidize their products, most people won't spend $750-500 on a phone when they could get it for $200.
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i don't understand :/
PS: not cause of english, but the topic your talking about oO please explain
Sh4itan said:
i don't understand :/
PS: not cause of english, but the topic your talking about oO please explain
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If you buy your phone from Moto without the discount that you get from carriers, you would be paying 500 USD extra just to get a version that's unlockable, which is crazy for most people. Why would you buy a phone for 700 USD that you could get for 200 USD?
They must be fool if they think that I will buy another moto phone just because of a "killer feature" like the unlocked bootloader... They screwed it with the Razr (and others) already and I will not support such company who thinks that everything must be as they said...-thats not what I am paying for. Thats the reason why I don't own an iphone and motorola's phones are next on this list...
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If you buy your phone from Moto without the discount that you get from carriers, you would be paying 500 USD extra just to get a version that's unlockable, which is crazy for most people. Why would you buy a phone for 700 USD that you could get for 200 USD?
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why should i buy a new phone if i've the ability to simply flash the retail version over it?
or is there something i didn't mention now?
It's only for the new phone :|
Man they should stop to mess up with their costumers
Anyway i'll not trust them until is real
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Didn't the Xoom tablet have an unlock option as stock? I think it's the very first thing I did when I got it? It did have a nice warranty warning from what I recall...
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Motorola Xoom is GED
Just wanted to react to the topic name - no we didn't won but we probably completly lost it all because if motorola will provide unlocked bootloader for the upcoming phones there will be no reason for them to unlock old phones as its reasonable that they would want to sell as many new phones as possible and this "new feature" will help them...
If anyone can read the RAZR WILL be unlocked shortly after the new phone is released. This is because the DROID RAZR and DROID RAZR maxx are very popular phones. And Verizon doesn't want anyone complaining about the unlocked bootloader. So just get your panties out of a bunch and wait patiently until after August.
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Think about it a lot of people are still on their 2 year contract so people are not gonna want to pay full retail just to get an unlocked bootloader when they just got a new phone. If Verizon was smart they would give it to relatively new phones so customers come upgrading time will want a new phone. And won't jump ship to a new carrier.
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People please Read the Whole article, moto confirmed they will be unlocking the RAZR/MAXX. They are going to start with a new unlockable device, then start unlocking some older devices. The razr is specificly listed others are unlisted but will be unlocked too. Remember that Google now owns motorola and is starting to call the shots, ICS is almost stock now on our razr except a few changes. (and good ones not crappy ones) Motorola is going back to its google roots the OG Droid came from.
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People please Read the Whole article, moto confirmed they will be unlocking the RAZR/MAXX. They are going to start with a new unlockable device, then start unlocking some older devices. The razr is specificly listed others are unlisted but will be unlocked too. Remember that Google now owns motorola and is starting to call the shots, ICS is almost stock now on our razr except a few changes. (and good ones not crappy ones) Motorola is going back to its google roots the OG Droid came from.
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err, where did you read that?
Can an XT910 locked to Rogers, be unlocked? Does a Rogers XT910 have LTE?
I believe that TMobile has HSPA+ in Seattle, but is there any word what kind of LTE they will have? Surely something compatible with iPhone, as they've already lost 700,000 subscribers due to the iPhone.
Some say 'go with a dev phone or go home'. But how the hell do you find/identify a dev phone?
Does the xt910 have to be the developer edition, or will any do, including the Maxx? Is the xt910 always overseas? If not, why don't carriers have it?
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unlockable
I have an unlocked Rogers XT910, so yes it can be unlocked.
I used cellunlocker dot net. Great service from them.
Only HSPA+ where I live, so maybe someone else can comment on LTE. I can't see why it wouldn't work though, if you have an LTE compatible micro sim.
With the Nexus One there was a utility we could use to unlock them.
Isn't there such a utility for the XT910?
Also, I thought the carrier was required to give you the unlock code on request. Isn't this still the case?
Is anyone running MIUI on this phone? If so, does it have the soft buttons across the bottom?
I'm not aware of any utility for unlocking, maybe someone else knows of one? There is one for rooting of course.
Rogers will charge $50 for unlocking last I heard, I was able to pay $8 and avoid Rogers altogether, I consider that a win
http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/6394
Never hurts to ask them though, either at a kiosk or by phone.
It appears you can bid on -any- unlock code, regardless of what it's characterized for or when it ends. All they need is the IMEI number and old carrier, and you're golden. Looks like I can get an unlock code for about 50 cents on eBay now. Ferocious competition.
Does a Rogers XT910 have LTE?
I believe that TMobile has HSPA+ in Seattle, but is there any word what kind of LTE they will have? Freqs? Surely something compatible with iPhone, as they've already lost 700,000 subscribers due to the iPhone.
Some say 'go with a dev phone or go home'. But how the hell do you find/identify a dev phone?
Does the xt910 have to be the developer edition, or will any do, including the Maxx? Is the xt910 always overseas? If not, why don't carriers have it?
How about Maxx battery upgrades? Anything less than $99?
Anyone home?
My phone will arrive in the mail today.
Can anyone advise?
I found with Ebay you may have to wait a bit longer. It really depends on the seller but I've waited up to 4 days for a response (though the description said 8-14hrs).
Cellunlocker.net sent me a code within 15 mins, it costs more. Choice is yours of course. I didn't like the long wait when I couldn't use the phone for calls.
Any XT910 should be capable of LTE if your carrier uses LTE.
I wouldn't worry about a dev phone. If you develop and are interested in working with an unlocked bootloader fine, but since so few developer phones were made, there won't be a lot of development on it. Most are using a regular phone and you'll find most options with that. Just enjoy your phone
Nothing under $99 for a battery upgrade, if there was I would buy it. You may find a wrecked phone on Ebay, but they tend to go for $200 or more.
Only place seems to have it is cellphone repair shop online. It's a great upgrade, but it's not cheap.
I''m considering switching from Verizon to AT&T, and buying a phone off-contract.
1. Having been on these forums for a while, I am under the impression that AT&T phones, in general, both get Android updates sooner than Verizon phones, and have root methods discovered sooner. Are these accurate impressions?
2. I'm considering buying an off-contract phone from GSM Nation. Is this the cheapest/best option? If not, where?
That would be the best option IMO. Im with att and considered buying unlocked from gsm nation, instead I went with buying a T-Mobile variant
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As far as rooting goes. I'm not sure AT&T is the best way to go. AT&T always requests that OEMS lock down the phones. I'd get the tmobile variant and get an unlock code from somewhere online if possible.
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As far as rooting goes. I'm not sure AT&T is the best way to go. AT&T always requests that OEMS lock down the phones. I'd get the tmobile variant and get an unlock code from somewhere online if possible.
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Is the T-Mobile variant a better option than the "International" version from GSM Nation? Wouldn't the International version be unlocked?
beleynn said:
Is the T-Mobile variant a better option than the "International" version from GSM Nation? Wouldn't the International version be unlocked?
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I cannot say which of those two are better as I do not know, though I'd assume an int. version would support a broader spectrum of bands than a carrier specific version, I simply meant that an AT&T branded sgs6e would have a locked BL and there is no option to root. Though I could be mistaken about the root. An AT&T version will probably never see any development and rom support. at least not in any near future.
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I''m considering switching from Verizon to AT&T, and buying a phone off-contract.
1. Having been on these forums for a while, I am under the impression that AT&T phones, in general, both get Android updates sooner than Verizon phones, and have root methods discovered sooner. Are these accurate impressions?
2. I'm considering buying an off-contract phone from GSM Nation. Is this the cheapest/best option? If not, where?
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To answer your first question..no...AT&T is generally several months behind Verizon and all the others for that matter.