I just rooted with s-off, and was wondering about using rom manager and rom toolbox. I know to use rom manager I need to flash clockworkmod instead of amon ra. But will it work or hurt my rezound?
Using Rom toolbox gives the ability to change boot animations, will this brick my rezound? Does anyone know what items in the mentioned apps can be used safely?
thanks!
I've installed Rom manager and there is nothing worth any time in there as far as roms go especially since cwm recovery is useless on our phones. Rom toolbox should cause you no issues
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CWM recovery is not useless on our phones. There is a simple fix to make it work. I use the touch version and it works fine. I chose to stick with Rom Manager since I bought it when I had my Incredible. If I were to choose again, I would probably go with Rom Toolbox though.
Although I have the paid version of CWM and always loved it in previous phones, it is not dependable at all in the Rezound.
The ONLY 100% dependable system for the Rez is AmonRa 3.15 so it only makes sense to use it.
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So I have tenfar's CWM on my phone right now, but I've heard a bit about ROM Manager, and it seems easier to use. I'm wondering what if any drawbacks it has over what I'm using.
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Tenfar's works with latest OTA 4.5.91, but your mileage will vary with the ROM Manager. As far as I can tell Rom Manager does not work unless you have an unlocked bootloader. I have installed both and tried to use Rom Manager and it has never worked for me. Tenfar on the other hand works flawlessly and as described. I'd go with Tenfar over Rom Manager because Tenfar's works with locked bootloaders and honestly I don't think Rom Manager works at all, unless your boot loader is unlocked. Then you might have some luck. Rom Manager also wants you to pay money for it.
ROM Manager is incompatible with Tenfar's version of CWM, and the one that it'll install has issues with wiping data and cache. This makes it somewhat useless until thats fixed.
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So I have tenfar's CWM on my phone right now, but I've heard a bit about ROM Manager, and it seems easier to use. I'm wondering what if any drawbacks it has over what I'm using.
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what is hard about Tenfar's CWM?????....i have never found an issue with his CWM...it makes a perfect backup, perfect restore, flash roms....flash add-ons...never had a single problem...
Nothing is hard about it, but from what I understand about ROM Manager, you simply click the ROM you want to flash and next thing you know, it's flashed... I also forget to hold down the volume rocker sometimes which is a pain in the ass (although that's my own dumb fault)
I would have to agree. I used ROM Manager on my N1 for a long time and I would just jump from ROM to ROM for the fun of it but using the "manual" method (eg. Tenfar's) it kind of makes me want to stick with a ROM for extended periods of time.
Don't get me wrong, there is nothing "hard" about using Tenfar's CWM or anything like that, it's just a preferential thing.
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ROM Manager is incompatible with Tenfar's version of CWM, and the one that it'll install has issues with wiping data and cache. This makes it somewhat useless until thats fixed.
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Doesn't make it useless. You just fastboot -w when using ROM Manager.
This is my first HTC rooted device. I had ****ty Moto's before. Anyways, there hasn't been much talk of anyone using Rom Manager. I am assuming that since we don't have an official CWM that we can't use Rom Manager. Once we have the official from Koush will Rom manager be compatible with the Rezound? Or does everything have to be flashed in fastboot/etc until S-Off?
*bump*...interested since this is my first HTC
You can "use" Rom Manager all you want. It's not going to do a bloody good lot of good though lol. I have it installed just to do my reboots for me and occasionally fix permissions when I blow stuff up. Any of the ROM tools probably won't work. Once Koush / Team CWM update ROM Manager update it to an official version then everything should be as it was on other phones.
Yeah, it'll require an official CWR and maybe an update to ROM Manager to support it. There's a build of CWR out there for the phone now but it's not an official build by Koush so I'm guessing that's why it's not integrating with ROM Manager.
I just hit him up on G+ about this yesterday actually. Awaiting reply.
Any news on this yet? Wouldn't this be a issue since most of us aren't using clockwork recoveries?
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I installed and subsequently removed ROM Manager from my Rezound. I had the pro version running on my Incredible, and that made sense because the recovery was ClockworkMod. There hasn't been any activity indicating that CWM will be rendered functional on the Rezound, and I run RA Vigor now which is rock solid, and doesn't interact with ROM Manager, so why waste the space? It doesn't do anything for me.
I may be wrong but I thought we couldn't use CWM on the Rezound because we didn't have S-Off? So we can't write to the recovery partition while in the OS?
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Those of you who are rooted to get access to certain things like tethering and freezing bloatware and perhaps overclock. Are you also installing CWM? I mean is there a point if will be staying on the stock ROM for awhile?
I just exchanged my Galaxy Note to ATT the other day, had a white buy wanted a black . I had it rooted, with CWM installed, with titanium backup and so on. But i don't think i really even need CWM unless i will be installing Rom.
Or maybe i should just install it for the hell of it for future use? I mean is their any other use to CWM that perhaps i am missing?
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Those of you who are rooted to get access to certain things like tethering and freezing bloatware and perhaps overclock. Are you also installing CWM? I mean is there a point if will be staying on the stock ROM for awhile?
I just exchanged my Galaxy Note to ATT the other day, had a white buy wanted a black . I had it rooted, with CWM installed, with titanium backup and so on. But i don't think i really even need CWM unless i will be installing Rom.
Or maybe i should just install it for the hell of it for future use? I mean is their any other use to CWM that perhaps i am missing?
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well um no, no reason to install CWM if you're not going to use it
people install CWM to either make backups, or flash things
normally flashing things is why people make nandroid backups
but since you not going to flash......
Ok thanks. I know what CWM does, but just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing anything. I plan on installing some Roms in the future. So i guess there is no reason to install it now. Thanks.
As stated, if you don't need it then don't install it. It is on beta 4, and was reported to be very good in beta 3, but with time comes improvements. So, just wait til you need it and you will have the best CWM for when you do need it.
So i was loading up a new rom after GPS wouldnt work on the previous one, got everything downloaded to internal sd and was verifying it was their via cw rom manager app. I then clicked on the link to boot into recovery and the phone came up with sgs2 and the little triangle but then nothing, pulled the battery did it manually same thing, no matter what i did it wont boot normally anymore or can i get into recovery. I am able to get into download mode so i am trying to recover my semi bricked phone. Has anyone had this happen before? For reference this is the rom i was in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854
This was the first time i ever started messing with the rom manager app and now it will be my last.
You are not the first and probably wont be the last. Rom Manager should not be used on the i9100. It will cause plenty of problems when used to install roms and such.
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You are not the first and probably wont be the last. Rom Manager should not be used on the i9100. It will cause plenty of problems when used to install roms and such.
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While I don't like or use ROM Manager, this isn't entirely true.
The issue is that CF-Root/CWM4 is NOT compatible with ROM Manager. So if you rooted with CF-Root, or have CWM4 installed, then try to use ROM Manager, that is where your issues start.
Apparently you can use ROM Manager on the i9100 as long as you don't have CWM4 or CF-Root.
But I don't recommend using ROM Manager anyways, as most flavors of CWM do everything ROM Manager can do anyways.
It happened alot with me as my previous device was HTC desire hd. I was used to rom manager.
Boot your device into download mode. Run addin n make sure you downloaded Cwm too. Hook the usb, able to your phone. Through addin flash Cwm. Next boot into recovery rock n roll
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Rom manager is horrible, i always tell people to root and flash following xda guides, Rom manager is responsible for a lot of issues on phones, id avoid it completely if you can.
I hear it and read it often too, rom manager cause plenty of issues, i wouldn't use it.
Binford... more power!
Well got it fixed last night, was 3am when i finally got to bed, and this morning i re rooted it and and im recovering my system now. Thanks for the help guys.
Is there any chance one of the devs working on this device can get CWM recovery working for it? I've used CWM exclusively on my OG Droid and Inc 2.... I'm hesitant to use a recovery I'm unfamiliar with on my Inc 4G.
The only recovery available is TWRP. I don't know of anything being worked on through other developers. But trust me on this, TWRP is far superior and easier to use. Just an opinion, but wanted to shed some of your fears. I've used TWRP on several phones and it works extremely well.
Do you know if ROM Manager can be used with TWRP? Or would it even be necessary to install ROM Manager?
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RomManager is designed for CWM. I strongly doubt it will work giving recovery commands that reboot the phone. In fact, judging by the comments left about RomManager lately, I don't think it supports much of anything any more.
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Do you know if ROM Manager can be used with TWRP? Or would it even be necessary to install ROM Manager?
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RomManager is designed for CWM. I strongly doubt it will work giving recovery commands that reboot the phone. In fact, judging by the comments left about RomManager lately, I don't think it supports much of anything any more.
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rom manager is usually compatible with other recoveries (4ext comes to mind)
i cant speak from experience w/ twrp though
I think Koush kind of got overwhelmed with Rom Manager tbh. Soo many phones out there now...huge damn undertaking. It's slipped a little in popularity. I've read some posts where people were talking about experiences with him and support. Don't know how true they are as I've never spoke with him and everything posted on the interwebz is the gawd-honest troof. But support for new phones I think is seriously lacking at this point.
Whatever you do though, don't force CWM into your phone through Rom Manager though...you could be without a recovery
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I think Koush kind of got overwhelmed with Rom Manager tbh. Soo many phones out there now...huge damn undertaking. It's slipped a little in popularity. I've read some posts where people were talking about experiences with him and support. Don't know how true they are as I've never spoke with him and everything posted on the interwebz is the gawd-honest troof. But support for new phones I think is seriously lacking at this point.
Whatever you do though, don't force CWM into your phone through Rom Manager though...you could be without a recovery
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Thanks for the insight. My personal experience with Koush and his products have all been good. I was just wary of flashing something I've never used. My main goal right now is to just root my Inc 4G so I can get free WiFi tether. I'm grandfathered into unlimited data, but that doesn't include WiFi Hotspot. Then I'm going to wait for some CM10.
I will not even consider porting CWM. It is the worst available recovery and rom manager is garbage.
CWM was great on older devices like the original Incredible, but on newer devices, it has invited a lot of problems. You're much better off with TWRP. When the time comes to install custom ROMs on this device, consider using Goo Manager instead of ROM Manager--many developers are now supporting their ROMs on Goo.im and Goo Manager can do everything with TWRP that ROM Manager could do with CWM in terms of flashing.
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CWM was great on older devices like the original Incredible, but on newer devices, it has invited a lot of problems. You're much better off with TWRP. When the time comes to install custom ROMs on this device, consider using Goo Manager instead of ROM Manager--many developers are now supporting their ROMs on Goo.im and Goo Manager can do everything with TWRP that ROM Manager could do with CWM in terms of flashing.
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Thanks. I'm gonna flash TWRP tonight.
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CWM was great on older devices like the original Incredible, but on newer devices, it has invited a lot of problems. You're much better off with TWRP. When the time comes to install custom ROMs on this device, consider using Goo Manager instead of ROM Manager--many developers are now supporting their ROMs on Goo.im and Goo Manager can do everything with TWRP that ROM Manager could do with CWM in terms of flashing.
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Can you explain why CWM isn't so good and TWRP superior? Im really curious?
I have used both, I had CWM on a few phones but only recently got introduced to TWRP when I needed to put a recovery on a tablet (kindle fire I think...). That being said, the Dinc 4G is the 2nd device I put that recovery on, and I guess it works fine, I mean its done everything expected of it without fail, then again, CWM was pretty reliable as well... soo...
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Can you explain why CWM isn't so good and TWRP superior? Im really curious?
I have used both, I had CWM on a few phones but only recently got introduced to TWRP when I needed to put a recovery on a tablet (kindle fire I think...). That being said, the Dinc 4G is the 2nd device I put that recovery on, and I guess it works fine, I mean its done everything expected of it without fail, then again, CWM was pretty reliable as well... soo...
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CWM has been associated with bad blocks, failing to fully wipe device partitions, and disabling charging while the phone is off making the phone remarkably difficult to resurrect if the battery dies, among many other device-specific problems (for example, 5.0.2.0 failing to make a nandroid backup with the ext4 mod flashed on the original Incredible). It's also annoyingly proprietary (ironic, when its primary purpose is flashing open-source ROMs...) in the sense that it ties in specifically with ROM Manager and the two are not very compatible with much of anything else (for example, openrecoveryscript).
TWRP is much more open (which is why apps like Goo Manager are able to support it) and has one really crucial brick-proofing feature that sets it apart: a battery indicator. (Some ports of CWM Touch have battery indicators baked in, but CWM Touch has largely been a porting mess and adoption has been very slow.)