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i am having a quite unusual problem with the battery on my TP. it is hard to explain but i will try my best to do so. While i was casually surfing the web while on the charger i noticed that my battery started to drain ( this is the more ordinary problem that has been posted on many threads ) but this new situation is. The indicator lights and meters within the TP indicate that the battery is charging yet it still drains. I tried turning it completely off and removing the battery and then putting it back in and charge the unit for one hour. After one hour it charged to 20% which is reasonable enough for normal use, so i turn it back on and continue to use the device again the TP still indicates that the battery is charging after listening to about 7 songs i get a very low battery indicator warning (at the same time the battery indicates its charging) there is NO overheating and when the battery reaches 0% it does not die the screen just goes off and i can turn it back on and still recieve the low battery warning but what i cannot do is use data or even turn the phone radio back on. I am on the NFS 1.05 ROM, any suggestions?
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i am having a quite unusual problem with the battery on my TP. it is hard to explain but i will try my best to do so. While i was casually surfing the web while on the charger i noticed that my battery started to drain ( this is the more ordinary problem that has been posted on many threads ) but this new situation is. The indicator lights and meters within the TP indicate that the battery is charging yet it still drains. I tried turning it completely off and removing the battery and then putting it back in and charge the unit for one hour. After one hour it charged to 20% which is reasonable enough for normal use, so i turn it back on and continue to use the device again the TP still indicates that the battery is charging after listening to about 7 songs i get a very low battery indicator warning (at the same time the battery indicates its charging) there is NO overheating and when the battery reaches 0% it does not die the screen just goes off and i can turn it back on and still recieve the low battery warning but what i cannot do is use data or even turn the phone radio back on. I am on the NFS 1.05 ROM, any suggestions?
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Try to get a charger with an output of at least 1 A. It could be that your charger is not powerful enough to compensate for the drainage. The other thing is that WM' battery indicator flat out sucks... it is like Windows file system when it is desperately trying to tell you how much time you have left before your task is done (2 minutes jumping to 15 seconds jumping to 54 minutes jumping to 2 seconds jumping to 3 days, etc)..
Flash to another rom and see if the behavior still remains.... I doubt NFS messed up that badly with power settings, but it is always worth giving it a shot.
yea i doubt its the rom either as i was having overheating/drainage problems on stock but it wasnt anything like this
Hi
I have a pretty serious problem with the battery life on my tg01! I've read the other threads here and at Modaco on the battery problems but thought I'd raise it again. I have a mugen battery now (1100) but am barely getting a couple of hours use. The battery indicator gets stuck and can go from 100% to 40 suddenly, before a few minutes later switching off. I have the original wm 6.1 rom and spb mobile shell 3.5, but the problem was there still when that was uninstalled. I can leave it charging overnight and the battery can suddenly drop and be dead in a few hours.
I'd have thought mugen battery, although only a 1100 one would have made the difference, but there's something definitely wrong because it should not be that bad!!!
What do you suggest is the best thing to do?? Will a different rom definitely solve it? or will it be down to one of the numerous programs I've installed? Or something else? A faulty phone?? It's a problem others definitely have, but is there a single working solution??
cheers!!
as far as i know battery life is a problem with all tg01's, atleast i have the same problem. the huge screen takes alot of power, add 3g or wifi and your phones going to be dead within 2 hours ! one way to overcome this is to make sure you disable data connections when not needed and reduce the backlight settings. i've been able to get over 24 hours using this method but if you want longer life the only real solution im aware of is to get the 2600 mugen battery.
EDIT: I should also mention sense and other memory hungry apps ie opera will effect battery life greatly, infact i find if i use sense my phone can be dead within 8 hours and thats with minimal useage. Constant use of opera will have the phone drained in a matter of an hour and a half.
As for a rom solving it, i dont really think its tied to a rom in anyway but you may want to try noskers rom - i find this one to be the most stable and battery life definately seems longer but i may be imagining that !
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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will try that definitely. it happens with the new mugen battery too however.
The Power Saving Settings I use are CPU medium (have tried low and high too), limit CPU speed for battery (tried on and off options) Wifi power consumption, restrict sleep mode OFF, Enable Wifi during sleep mode to OFF, backlight very low. Adjust backlight automatically OFF, 30 seconds backlight timer, 1 minute device sleep timer.
I am guessing there is a rogue program using up the CPU constantly running down the battery. Have you tried a hard reset? (probably a good idea to upgrade the ROM while your at it )
Well I've tried disabling the battery device in task manager. I'm not sure that made a difference, but at least I wasn't able to see the meter jump around..
a hard reset may well sort it, and may end up doing that. I can't see any high intensity CPU programs. anything else? will google latitude suck up the battery this quick?
One other thing which has started recently, which may persuade me to hard reset is that the blue led light flashes long after an sms has arrived. a soft reset stops this, but it will start again when another sms comes through. I've tried one such notification reset program on this forum but its made no difference.
what can be done to stop this?
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I should really have considered another post really called niggles I need to sort out on my TG01.
But how can I stop the screen going off immediately when a call comes in? I'd rather it waits say 10 secs then go off. the options in pocket toolman do not seem to work. I need the screen on a bit because often I switch to speaker straight away.
When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
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When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
Well it's bizzarre... the battery meter on the tg01 is certainly pretty dodgy.
with the flashing leds, what does anyone suggest? is there a way to change the led notifications back to default?
And regarding the screen going off immediately when a call comes in, it looks like there's no fix - similar threads still have no answer, unless anyone has more suggestions?
Update: I have done a full hard reset and a wm6.5 upgrade but the battery issues are still here. Has everyone who has had this issue taken it back to orange? It barely lasts 5 hours the battery.
Anything else at all to suggest???
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
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I stand corrected.
While this was true before and had tested a few times with two different TG01 both with Orange UK stock ROM, I have retested it now and it does not happen anymore, but I have flashed a new ROM...
Apologies for the confusion.
Hi all
I was reading this thread and preferred to add my 'query' here rather than start a new one.
My TG01 has an original WM 6.5 rom minus the SPB Shell. I haven't experiences any negative experiences yet except for the fact that I have often heard about charging the battery for 8 hours etc and charging it with phone off which I always do except on few occasions I connect with USB cable to my pc /laptop...in my case I will charge my set with the toshiba wall charger that came with the set and orange LED will illuminate a few seconds after charger is plugged-in..from there onwards the orange LED will stay illuminated for maximum 3 to 4 hours and then will turn-off. I am not having any battery problems except for the usual battery drain depending on usage and apps but nothing unusual.
I'd like to know if this is normal? Is anybody else experiencing this? Not charging more than 3 to 4 hours (orange LED turning off after 3 to 4 hours).
I would appreciate some help on this 'doubt'
Thanks
I think it's problem with driver and charging akku. I have custom rom with 6.5.5
and when i charge my akku when it is on 20 % after 20-30 min shows me that 90 % full... After 1 1/2 hour akku full charged.
Greets ALcAtRas
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Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
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is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
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Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
Pere said:
Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
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thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
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thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
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...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
Pere said:
...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
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Aha
I seriously warn you be careful of condensarion!
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I definitely think it is either level measuring circuit problem or battery driver itself - not too big power consumption.
I can repeat without any problems situation where battery level suddenly decreases about 20-30% . I noticed it only during internet operations via GSM so utilizing radio. Why , I do not know . How to fix it ? I do not know yet but it is enough to restart system so that battery indicator start to show correct value - until next failure .
I thought when bad indication occures it would be enough to stop-start baterry driver using way You described. It does not work. Stopping driver cause battery indicator shows unknown level. Starting driver not fix it. Battery indicator still shown unknown value. Only restart fix it. It should not behave this way.
Maybe problem is not in driver but top bar of today screen when battery indicator exists, should have any kind of reset too?
BTH. What software is responsible for displaying battery indicator ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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yes! i am not the only one! recently i got a data plan for my tg01. when i use the data connection for 1-2 minutes, the battery drops 10% and it will stay at its false value until i soft reset. i thought that the problem was with the rom that i was using but i guess im wrong. what ROM are you on? it is very annoying and i have to constantly reset my phone. i have done some test, and if i keep using it, on data, the battery could conpletely go dead like when it is out of power, then when i power back in it is back to its true value. any solutions?!
Hi,
I have been facing these two weird issues:
1. Sudden drop in battery percentage: I have found that this occurs only when i reboot my phone (not every time though). So when the phone restarts, the battery is down by 20-30% or sometimes even more. And its not a one time issue. I have seen it happen at least 3-4 times in the last 5 months.
2. Sometimes when I am not charging the phone, the battery % keeps increasing slowly. This has been happening lately since the time I have rooted and flashed my phone. 2-3 occurrences that i know. I don't recall seeing this when I was on stock. Just this morning I plugged my phone off the charger at 52% and I left for work. And right now at this moment when I am writing this, the phone is at 58% charge!!
Just FYI.. I calibrate the battery every time I flash a new ROM.
Thanks,
Sam
sammy.samsung said:
Hi,
I have been facing these two weird issues:
1. Sudden drop in battery percentage: I have found that this occurs only when i reboot my phone (not every time though). So when the phone restarts, the battery is down by 20-30% or sometimes even more. And its not a one time issue. I have seen it happen at least 3-4 times in the last 5 months.
2. Sometimes when I am not charging the phone, the battery % keeps increasing slowly. This has been happening lately since the time I have rooted and flashed my phone. 2-3 occurrences that i know. I don't recall seeing this when I was on stock. Just this morning I plugged my phone off the charger at 52% and I left for work. And right now at this moment when I am writing this, the phone is at 58% charge!!
Just FYI.. I calibrate the battery every time I flash a new ROM.
Thanks,
Sam
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I think that Entropy can answer this better but I'll still give a try.
[Q] Why these sudden battery level drops after reboot?
[A] The sudden battery drops is a known 'issue'. It's not a bug, it's the way the fuel gauges are designed for i777.
[Q] How to avoid these sudden battery level drops?
[A] Try not to reboot while it's on battery if the battery level is <50%. In that case, if you need to, make sure that the phone is plugged in for charging and then do the reboot. That should prevent those random battery level drops.
[Q] Will using battery calibration apps help?
[A] No, the way the i777 fuel gauges are designed, there is no need of battery calibration apps. The best way to get accurate battery level readings is to allow the battery to go through full 100%->0% battery discharge cycles for atleast 2-3 times. After each full discharge remove the battery, keep it out for a minute or two and reinsert, recharge the phone.
PS: The weird battery charges that violate E=MC^2 law might have to do with your battery not having been through proper discharge cycles (and thus not having been properly calibrated) after flashing a new ROM.
@Mod These questions are asked many times, how about adding them to FAQs (not sure if that will help though )
@Entropy Please review this post.
Pretty close.
Calibration does nothing on our device - the fuel gauge is designed so that it will always converge towards truth instead of diverging. Also, the "wipe battery stats" method of "calibration" has been proven to do NOTHING on ANY device whatsoever - https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT - The "charge battery to full" and "discharge/recharge" battery are valid tactics on some devices, but NOT any Galaxy S or S II device (maybe the ****rocket and T989, but not the I9100 or I777.) - There's a slight chance this may change with ICS on the I9100/I777 but not likely.
The advantage of this is that it never needs funky calibration cycles other than "just wait"
The disadvantage is that the gauge will get thrown off in a few limited corner cases - and the "two" issues described are one widely documented one. The gauge gets confused and falseley reports low by heavily battery load immediately following a reset, and takes a few hours to converge back to normality (during which the estimate creeps upward, because it was lower than reality initially).
And yeah this should probably be in the FAQ. I'll work on submitting it this weekend.
Thanks guys..
So looks like the sudden battery drop issue can only be prevented but not fixed!
sammy.samsung said:
Thanks guys..
So looks like the sudden battery drop issue can only be prevented but not fixed!
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It's pretty much the characteristics of putting a battery under load and using voltage to dictate battery level. when you draw a lot of current from a battery you'll usually see the voltage level drop, more so as the battery is discharged. Booting up the phone consumes quite a bit of power, substantially more than the device at idle. So upon start up the device reads the voltage level to dictate battery level. Since the device is under a relatively high power draw, it sees a lower voltage than would be at idle. It in return thinks the battery is lower than it actually is, or would read under idle load. the battery level will actually creep back up slowly because it will read a higher voltage, than it did upon start up.
The only way i could think of to get a more accurate reading would be to delay the initial voltage reading/recording upon start up, or to use the last voltage reading to help dictate the battery level. But i have no idea if that's even possible, or if it would conflict with some sort of other operation.
I just don't get it!!!!!!!
I was playing multiplayer in bombsquad today morning wid my friend .My battery was @ 86% at that time
suddenly my battery came down to 15% then in the other moment it went to0% and mt phone got shut down. I plugged my phone in charge through the power bank and rebooted it and I saw my phone was @52 % I started using my phone and it again suddenly sut down this time without even a battery low message
it's been happening regularly wid my phone since then.
What could be the reason? And what can I do to make it right?
MY PHONE INFORMATION
MODEL:SAMSUNG GALAXY CORE GT I8262
ROM:USING STOCK ROM(ROOTED) (CWM RECOVERY INSTALLED)
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MODEL:SAMSUNG GALAXY CORE GT I8262
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This is the wrong forum. Even though the thread is about a problem similar to yours, we don't know anything about your phone.
If you have a removable battery, you might try purchasing a new battery, but that's just a guess.
The forums for you phone are here.
I accidentally found a way to over come the unsual battery drain. This method may not work out with completely worn out - old batteries. A month after I bought my s3, my battery started to drain excessively. I had installed no new apps..
Phone Usage was almost the same. Before the battery drain I got almost 26~30 hours of battery at normal use... after the battery drain I got less than 12 hours for the same usage.
So here is the method.
Put the phone on charge. After puttting it on charge, switch off the phone... u can restart it after twenty seconds... ideally wait till the phone cools down, if it feels hot... don't use the phone till it reaches 100% charge. This method works for any initial charge. I.e. it works when the battery is at 98% or at 1%. But if u try this method when u have 1% and u keep using the phone while charging, this method may not work... so ideally don't use the phone while charging.
So now I do this everyday and my phone lasts for 26~30 hours on normal use.
I used gsam battery monitor pro to monitor my phone's temperature and battery usage.
It also gives the average number of hours the battery will last.
For those who dont know : Ideally charge the battery when it is leas than 10%. This will increase the overall battery life.
P.s. it works for me. Don't complain if it doesn't work for u!!
Cheers,
Kraadhagaa aka sivakannan
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
You basically calibrated your battery. Typically only needs done about once a month at most to keep your battery gauge accurate. Any more than that hurts your battery.
t1n0m3n said:
You basically calibrated your battery. Typically only needs done about once a month at most to keep your battery gauge accurate. Any more than that hurts your battery.
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Calibration is draining the battery till 0%, phone switches off and charging it till 100% when the phone is switched off.
This did not do the job. Battery drain was still bad.
After trying out my method, i charged the phone for two or three cycles without this method. Then the battery drain got horrible till the method was repeated.
I have been testing this method for a month. It hasn't caused Any harm. My battery life is good.
Its in effect the well posted bump charge method .
jje
stop playing games!! :silly:
sivajikannan said:
Calibration is draining the battery till 0%,
No its not calibration is using the phone .
Basically many just talk a load on nonsense when it comes to battery's .
jje
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I don't know a lot about batteries so I don't know how much of this is true.
I read that the phones chip, if it regularly see's the phone's battery going no lower than say, 15% over time (i.e, user always charges it once it hits 15%) that it will start to use this 15% mark as the "empty" level and that the best thing to do is to "remind it" every now and again, that there are battery levels below this 15% by letting it drain to 0%
Anyone got any comments on that?
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Once you get above 90%, I would stop worrying about it. I think most if not all devices need to go through charge/discharge cycles while fully charged to keep the battery life good, so when it is "charged" it will actually be ramping up and down to do that. How this is shown to the user varies across manufacturers, and there is really no clearly right solution -- if you show them the actual changes in level they start complaining and getting concerned about their battery not being at 100%, so it is good to just show it at 100% at this point but then you are giving a little white lie about the actual level.
NOTE last line 100% is not really true .
As to the 15% all i read is that continual dropping below 15% / 10% is bad for the battery's overall life .
jje
JJEgan said:
As to the 15% all i read is that continual dropping below 15% / 10% is bad for the battery's overall life .
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The other thing with Li-On batteries is that (as you say) using the last 10-15% of charge is damaging to overall battery life. If the battery reaches "True 0", it would be irreparable. That said, this last 10-15% of "Danger zone" (as I will now call it) is inhibited by an EPROM setting so a user cannot actually get below that.
Essentially, what I am saying is that the 10-15% "danger zone" is not included in the 0-100% that we perceive to be the "battery life" as the user.
So in the 1st attached image, the Red area represents the "danger Zone" or EEPROM protected charge. The Green area represents the 0-100% that we use as a user.
But in this case, I am asking if the EPROM sees the 15% remaining charge of the green area (forgetting the danger zone exists), if regularly not dropping below that, it becomes the new 0%, losing the last 15% of the green area as per the second image?
The phone only sees a reported voltage value, which it compares to a table giving an approximate % remaining - based on a fixed battery capacity.
The 15% danger/red zone you refer to is below the minimum voltage the phone will allow the battery to ever reach, as below this value the battery itself will act to disconnect - giving unexpected shut down and data loss/partition corruption. You would also be unable to recover a battery in this condition with a normal charger.
Best advise is still to recharge before the battery reaches 10 to 15% of the phone's indicated remaining value - you can safely go down to 0% indicated but will lose a little battery capacity each time you do this, as the electrodes inside the cell are being worn away. It's no big deal, hence why the phone permits it to happen, you'll just need to replace the battery earlier.
Similarly charging to 100% and holding the cell there is just as bad, remove from the charger and start using it right away.
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The phone only sees a reported voltage value, which it compares to a table giving an approximate % remaining - based on a fixed battery capacity.
The 15% danger/red zone you refer to is below the minimum voltage the phone will allow the battery to ever reach, as below this value the battery itself will act to disconnect - giving unexpected shut down and data loss/partition corruption. You would also be unable to recover a battery in this condition with a normal charger
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This I know but it's not related to my question.
boomboomer said:
Best advise is still to recharge before the battery reaches 10 to 15% of the phone's indicated remaining value - you can safely go down to 0% indicated but will lose a little battery capacity each time you do this, as the electrodes inside the cell are being worn away. It's no big deal, hence why the phone permits it to happen, you'll just need to replace the battery earlier.
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I'm not sure I agree with this but again, it's not related to my question.
*shrug* Sorry, I read your post about 10 times last night and figured you were talking about calibration. I then posted accordingly. Tonight, after I read your reply, I tried reading your post again a few more times. Finally, I came to the conclusion that your post makes no sense, so I give up trying to decipher what your post was trying to say. I surrender.
The best answer to the battery drain issue is a application called "GREENIFY". It closes all the background applications.. Try it n thank me if u feel it worked.. It increased my battery life more than twice..
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Lol... e=mc^2 doesn't make sense to a lot of people either
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*shrug* Sorry, I read your post about 10 times last night and figured you were talking about calibration. I then posted accordingly. Tonight, after I read your reply, I tried reading your post again a few more times. Finally, I came to the conclusion that your post makes no sense, so I give up trying to decipher what your post was trying to say. I surrender.
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Hi everybody
I've got a major battery issue with my three year old Nexus 10.
The battery indicator shows something around 75%, drops to 0 in a split second, switches in energy saving mode (notification and navigation bar are turning red) while it shuts down.
To verify I made an Automate Flow saves the battery charge every second to a text file. Result:
Code:
82,82,82,81,81,81,81,[...],73,73,73,73,0,0,0,0,0 EOF
Okay, it thought to myself, after three years the battery is broken. So I bought a replacement battery (Samsung original) and replaced it - but nothing changed.
To clear all old stats (and running Android 6.0.1) I wiped everything TWRP offered and installed CM13 - but nothing changed.
Now my only guess is, that there's some EPROM (or other memory hardware) that stores battery stats.
Can you, dear forum, help me fixing that issue?
No one?
Has anyone of you guys changed the manta battery, yet?
Same thing after OTA upgrade in D6563
I'm facing the same problem here with my d6563, after the MM OTA update i started to face quick vertical battery drop, but we're not the only ones, some users are reporting this issue in a lot of devices, some of them after update, some others after rooting, some of them just after some apps update, and the thing is that nothing seems to work, some users claim to have solved the issue, but they are just talking to fast, because the problem comes back the same day, they just think taht the battery data is accurate but then the drop accurs, si, i'm starting a new thread listing all the solutions tghat senior members have recomended and failed in order to track this problem to his roots once in for all, it's been happening since kitkat at y has come worse since marshmallow
keep in touch to see what we can figure out about this.
Battery _stats_ issue
I had, ummm, similar issues with my TCL S720 (in less degree) and now with TCL M2U (TCL Meme da 3N M2U AKA Alcatel Flash+) phones.
TCL M2U has 3500mAh battery capacity.
After full charge it discharge normally to ~40%. Behind 40% it is discharged to 1% for a few minutes and shuts off!
If then I charge it again to 100% then it eats about its full capacity (~3500mAh) - checked with Keweisi USB Doctor and shows 100% charge, but discharges to 40% again.
On other firmware there is similar effect but for 30% level or 15% level, it depends on firmware.
I think that the battery is OK but the charge percentage display is wrong.
Another strange thing is when I see the charge level using Ampere app. It shows i.e. 50% battery level and 3.762V voltage on the battery. Then I plug it in charger. For a short time the voltage rises to 3.8V and more but the battery level is lowered to 45%! Also if I charge the phone from discharged state then the battery level is 1% for the long time, then it quickly raise to ~30% and then shows charge process normally (almost linear). The USB Doctor show the charge process smooth almost all time (from stronger current to weaker).
So I join to the 1st post question: where is the battery's _real_ voltage level data?