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Ive had my gs3 for a week now. Moved from my htc tp2.
Firstly the signal quality is worse. Sat in my normal place in the house and unable to hear people. Have to go to the window.....4 year newer upgrade should be a total upgrade.
Secondly my partner has a galaxy S. We've been playing uno across bt. If you haven't played it one person hosts and the other joins. My partner was contantly the host as her phone could load in and out of the multiplayer in 1/2 the time... galaxy s better then gs3...! Grrrr
The question or oddity i have is memory.
Out the box i was getting about 500 mb usage. Few task managers/startup kills downloaded and tried. Gained about 50 mb. Used fmr memory and got down to about 350 mb.
Then started trying a few apps... wifi finders. File managers. Clocks etc. Noticed memory usage up to 550 mb. Looked at a few task managers again. Killed a few things. Used fmr again but unable to get anywere near 450mb. The task manager dont show any of the new apps. Uninstalling the new apps got my memory usage back down. But why..... if the task managers ( tried the top 5-6 and inbuilt for comparison) show no additional apps in memory where is it going.
This may-be my lack of understanding of how android works. Or a failure on the compatibility of the task managers and gs3. Or maybe im using the workings of a pc and incorrctly comparing.
Can anyone explain....
Sorry about any typo's. Still getting my head round this keyboard....
Need an android qwerty in the uk... this phone will be ebayed...my tp2 died so HAD to get a new phone. Gs3.
My review
Not bad.. screen is lush... size too long (only time i had to go 2 handed with my tp2 was when using the phyical qwerty, contantly using 2 hands with this size screen. Nearly droped several times juggeling and i have man hands). Home button should be touch not phyiscal.
Accessories...moronic.
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Ive had my gs3 for a week now. Moved from my htc tp2.
Firstly the signal quality is worse. Sat in my normal place in the house and unable to hear people. Have to go to the window.....4 year newer upgrade should be a total upgrade.
Secondly my partner has a galaxy S. We've been playing uno across bt. If you haven't played it one person hosts and the other joins. My partner was contantly the host as her phone could load in and out of the multiplayer in 1/2 the time... galaxy s better then gs3...! Grrrr
The question or oddity i have is memory.
Out the box i was getting about 500 mb usage. Few task managers/startup kills downloaded and tried. Gained about 50 mb. Used fmr memory and got down to about 350 mb.
Then started trying a few apps... wifi finders. File managers. Clocks etc. Noticed memory usage up to 550 mb. Looked at a few task managers again. Killed a few things. Used fmr again but unable to get anywere near 450mb. The task manager dont show any of the new apps. Uninstalling the new apps got my memory usage back down. But why..... if the task managers ( tried the top 5-6 and inbuilt for comparison) show no additional apps in memory where is it going.
This may-be my lack of understanding of how android works. Or a failure on the compatibility of the task managers and gs3. Or maybe im using the workings of a pc and incorrctly comparing.
Can anyone explain....
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Why do you worry about memory usage if it doesnt do any harm? you can start worrying about it if your the gs3 starts to run slowly etc.
I think you are worrying about task managers and memory usage because you got used to wm This is android and gs3 is beast of a phone, no need to worry too much about closing apps or memory usage.
Home button should be touch not phyiscal.
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urgg agreed! :fingers-crossed:
coming from all touch SGS vibrant, AT&T GS2 , I feel this too. home button is bit hard to press sometimes using it single handed. But size of the phone is great for me, although I prefer more waiting for the Note 2 :fingers-crossed:
Out the box i was getting about 500 mb usage. Few task managers/startup kills downloaded and tried. Gained about 50 mb. Used fmr memory and got down to about 350 mb.
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Cache is "eating" up your RAM. Take a look at this page: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
All operating systems do it, some just don't show it that prominent because it confuses the heck out of new users.
Using Task managers actually slows your phone down since it has to load data from the SSD which is always orders of magnitude slower than RAM.
However Samsung - and if your phone is carrier-branded, the carriers too - have added a lot of crap- and bloatware to he devices. If you're rooted, you can easily freeze or remove it which should give you 100ish MB of additional RAM. It's the same as with all devices that are sold today,
I'm wondering when they will start shipping ovens with a 30day Trial of PizzaBaker Pro.
Firstly the signal quality is worse. Sat in my normal place in the house and unable to hear people. Have to go to the window
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Try another modem. That often makes huge differences. However, as usual, modems with better signal drain more battery since they send with a higher signal strength.
y partner was contantly the host as her phone could load in and out of the multiplayer in 1/2 the time
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I don't know that game and altough I've both phones (S1 and S3) sitting in front of me I'm not particularly inclined to try it out now
However there could be several reasons to this behaviour, including e.g. the game trying to load higher texture resolutions for your far larger and higher-resolution screen, the app having issues with your particular phone,....
Is your partner's S1 on Android 2.x or 4.0? On CM7 / CM9 or another ROM? S1+ CM9 is very fast and it's snapiness not far behind the S3 without CM9.
Still getting my head round this keyboard....
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Open market and get another one. Plenty to choose from
Nearly droped several times juggeling and i have man hands
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Either you're holding it wrong *g* or your hands are small. Usually only women struggle to use it one-handendly.
Home button should be touch not phyiscal.
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I disagree. It's far easier and accurate to use a physical button (you don't have to look at it to find it) than a touch button. Phones with 4 touch buttons below the screen make me want to throw the device at the next wall from frustration.
Accessories...moronic.
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If that is a killer, I recommend you don't get an iPhone. Ever. They got some pretty stupid accessories, cases and stuff.
jr_enver said:
Ive had my gs3 for a week now. Moved from my htc tp2.
Firstly the signal quality is worse. Sat in my normal place in the house and unable to hear people. Have to go to the window.....4 year newer upgrade should be a total upgrade.
Worth trying a different modem .
But if i had the negative views you have i would sell it .
jje
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JJEgan said:
jr_enver said:
Ive had my gs3 for a week now. Moved from my htc tp2.
Firstly the signal quality is worse. Sat in my normal place in the house and unable to hear people. Have to go to the window.....4 year newer upgrade should be a total upgrade.
Worth trying a different modem .
But if i had the negative views you have i would sell it .
jje
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When.. Will you learn to quote? xD
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Ram works best when it's high..
Do u have any lag? Cos mines a beast.
If u don't like Samsung. Downgrade to an HTC again.
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RAM
For RAM, read the appropriate link in my signature to give you an idea how it works and why you shouldn't care about it,
Many thanks to all the replies.
Dont get me wrong love the phone. This was a list of first week oddities. The things i love about this do outway.
I would upgrade to a high spec qwerty slide in a heart beat. But the spec would need to compaire to this phone. Screen quality is 5*. Touch sensitivity again lush. Sound... and many more great features.
Info. Gs3 is unrooted unbranded. Girlfriends gs orange latest update.
Modem..... didnt even consider it.. many thanks.
Ruchira88. You may be spot on there. Allways had to keep one eye on tm with wm6.5. Have noiced an occational lag but i was running alot.
Keyboard..... just not a huge fan of on screen keyboards.. i know many people prefer them but still prefer a qwety slide. I find it quicker and more accurate for me.
My point about the home button. I find i have to shift my hand to add presure. May be the way im holding it. First week with a phone this big. Also have sgs3 flip case. Nice but also could be an added interference
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Took me a while to get used to the screen size.. But looking at my s2 now and i wouldnt like a smaller screen
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Just what it says. I've had my Galaxy S3 for 4 days and I've noticed that I only ever have about 100mbs (out of 800) free on my phone at any one time.
On my SGS2 I have over 300mb even with many games/apps running.
Sure my SGS3 is far faster than my SGS2 but when it comes to Web surfing and watching flash videos on pages, as well as just browsing around the home screen sometimes the phone gets so low on memory that it just starts to randomly kill apps that I have open. Apps like: Avast (which I don't use for the Anti-virus but for the extensive Anti-theft protection), Viber - which I use for making and receiving VoIP calls and Tasker. Which I use for automating things.
Surely a phone like this needs RAM I'm sure. But leaving me with just 100mbs spare for everything else can't be right can it?
I don't have many things running. Just the normal stuff. The main point is that my SGS2 could easily handle all this.
Anyone else having the same problem? Is there anything I can do? I use the Opera Mobile (not lite) browser.
I'd be happy to provide more information if needed. I'm pretty gutted over this. Battery life is lovely but the phone's performance grinds to a total halt when it clears its RAM... Which I never did manually on my SGS2 because it drains battery when it caches everything instantly again anyway.
Thanks so much in advance.
P.S. I can't find a 'task manager' app anywhere. I know if hold down the home button that I can access the task manager by pressing 'task manager' but that doesn't show me anything useful like what the SGS2 does. I can't exit apps or see how much RAM and CPU they are using or anything. Does the SGS3 really not have this option??
Touchwiz for s3 is heavy! Normally you shouldn't worry about ram on Android but touchwiz is really little much... I would recommend cm9 maybe.. Lightweight and fast
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Free ram is wasted ram, that is all
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Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
Ram handling is clearly flawed in SGS 3, lets hope the is no HW bug.
Hopefully future updates will fix the leaking memory.
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
leijonasisu said:
Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
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What are you even doing here? I'm running custom rom and the killing of apps is gone.
To those people spamming about "free ram is wasted ram" that is true BUT samsung set their priorities wrong to start killing apps you use, since touchwiz is pretty big it kills the apps you need instead. On cm9 the ram can be used for cache for stuff you actually need and use. This dude having issues with multitasking due to bad priorities wich is solved by mods / custom roms.. If you not are willing to try that I have no clue why you ask in xda for help.
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leijonasisu said:
Just what it says. I've had my Galaxy S3 for 4 days and I've noticed that I only ever have about 100mbs (out of 800) free on my phone at any one time.
On my SGS2 I have over 300mb even with many games/apps running.
Sure my SGS3 is far faster than my SGS2 but when it comes to Web surfing and watching flash videos on pages, as well as just browsing around the home screen sometimes the phone gets so low on memory that it just starts to randomly kill apps that I have open. Apps like: Avast (which I don't use for the Anti-virus but for the extensive Anti-theft protection), Viber - which I use for making and receiving VoIP calls and Tasker. Which I use for automating things.
Surely a phone like this needs RAM I'm sure. But leaving me with just 100mbs spare for everything else can't be right can it?
I don't have many things running. Just the normal stuff. The main point is that my SGS2 could easily handle all this.
Anyone else having the same problem? Is there anything I can do? I use the Opera Mobile (not lite) browser.
I'd be happy to provide more information if needed. I'm pretty gutted over this. Battery life is lovely but the phone's performance grinds to a total halt when it clears its RAM... Which I never did manually on my SGS2 because it drains battery when it caches everything instantly again anyway.
Thanks so much in advance.
P.S. I can't find a 'task manager' app anywhere. I know if hold down the home button that I can access the task manager by pressing 'task manager' but that doesn't show me anything useful like what the SGS2 does. I can't exit apps or see how much RAM and CPU they are using or anything. Does the SGS3 really not have this option??
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Maybe free ram in android is wasted ram, but only if the ram is used for USEFUL apps. Samsung have made a lot of stupid apps run in the background at all time, like softwareupdate, Chaton, some clud service process, AllShare Service, and a lot more (google maps also run at any given time, eating 30 mb of ram). All of this apps run in the background and take up a lot of ram, even tho I NEVER use this apps. All of these running apps, prevent the apps that I USE from being kept in the ram, and thus leads to a longer load time (f.x. Handcent SMS take a sec or 2 to load if it is not already loaded in the ram). What I did was to download Autostarts from the market and prevent these apps from starting up by themself, and thus I made room for the apps I use to be kept in the ram. However, be carefull, disabling apps from starting up (especially system apps), can cause problems!
Lennyuk said:
Free ram is wasted ram, that is all
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If someone has 300MB free ram and is asking about freeing up more ram this makes sense.
If free ram is always <100mb then there's a memory management problem.
OP try disabling unused apps in the app manager, streamline startup apps and use gemini to turn off auto launching of unneeded apps.
On stock I used to have about 150-200MB free ram at boot. With CM9 and 10 i get 300-400MB free RAM at boot.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
leijonasisu said:
Hey thanks a lot for your reply!
I will never be flashing a custom Rom over this phone. I like it the way that it is. I'm using Nova Launcher not TwLauncher.
Surely touchwiz can't be that big of a RAM hog. I have 4.0.3 on my SGS2 how can 4.0.4 be so much worse?
Edit: Obviously free RAM is wasted RAM but did you even read my post at all??? My phone keeps running out of RAM and killing apps, then reloading them instantly which slows down my phone to a halt and excessively drains my battery...
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Just freeze all of the bloatware. Install a good custom kernel (eg Siyah) and move on! No one to blame but yourself for not doing that or wanting to.
Android is doing its job just fine with memory. It's just bogged down by Samsung and vendor crapware.
Be lucky you ain't in the US, DHS big brother software becoming mandatory soon lol
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tsangwc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
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mant thanks for your post, wasn't awared about this 2 topics... :good:
dfMails said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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This has nothing to do with the issues op is facing, stop spamming all these in threads without reading the op at least.. I'm not talking to you directly but to everyone that just reads topic and "free ram wasted ram!"
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norpan111 said:
This has nothing to do with the issues op is facing, stop spamming all these in threads without reading the op at least.. I'm not talking to you directly but to everyone that just reads topic and "free ram wasted ram!"
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Tell me about it. Ive been here a week n already sick of all the 'You're a noob we're better than you' bs :-/
DocRambone said:
Ram handling is clearly flawed in SGS 3, lets hope the is no HW bug.
Hopefully future updates will fix the leaking memory.
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I can see that from just normal use. If any webpage is open with any sort of flash container my SGS3 just starts killing background apps and throwing "Low RAM" errors. I wonder if Jelly Bean will fix this issue?
jnr21 said:
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
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Excuse me but not everyone who asks questions in the XDA forums are idiots. I don't know what's with the attitude here of everyone with a couple of hundred posts but I'm not impressed. Knowing how RAM management works has NOTHING to do with this thread. The complaint in question here is that my phone is constantly running out of RAM and when it does it starts to kill background apps to free RAM which in turn grinds my phone down to a halt, and drains the battery excessively. Are you just here to get your post count up or something?
tsangwc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813018&highlight=memory
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620&highlight=memory
Search a bit more next time. Read these threads and you will know why it is silly to want more free RAM.
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UGHHHH!!! READ WHOLE DAMN POST! NOT JUST THE THREAD LINE.. I don't care about if my phone has 3MB of RAM free all the time or not as long as it works without a hitch, what I care about is that my phone is killing background apps that I need open and then constantly reloading them over and over when I'm web browsing and sometimes when I'm just at the home-screen.
norpan111 said:
What are you even doing here? If you not are willing to try that I have no clue why you ask in xda for help.
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XDA isn't just about modding/using custom roms etc. There are multiple sections on the forums here for discussion about other topics. Including asking general questions about the device... I use ROMs on my other phones where I can because I love them and I don't mind the constant updating I have to do. But on this phone, I don't want to use partially-unstable roms that require me to constantly flash my phone over and over again just to get features that are already working fine in the general release version. There is no guarantee that this problem will be fixed in a rom anyway and some of us don't like breaking our warranty. Even if it's child's-play to return the phone back to stock settings and renew the warranty.
kbkrogs said:
Maybe free ram in android is wasted ram, but only if the ram is used for USEFUL apps. Samsung have made a lot of stupid apps run in the background at all time, like software update, Chaton, some clud service process, AllShare Service, and a lot more (google maps also run at any given time, eating 30 mb of ram).
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I've frozen all of these... 'Talkback, OTA Updates, Bluetooth (I never use it) as well as turned off NFC and a bunch of other things etc. etc. etc. I don't have that much running in the background but my phone still bounces between 330MBs (after killing everything) of free RAM and under >90. (2 mins later after everything has reloaded) To which it then starts throwing warnings and killing apps I need.
jbonetwo said:
If someone has 300MB free ram and is asking about freeing up more ram this makes sense.
If free ram is always <100mb then there's a memory management problem.
OP try disabling unused apps in the app manager, streamline startup apps and use gemini to turn off auto launching of unneeded apps.
On stock I used to have about 150-200MB free ram at boot. With CM9 and 10 i get 300-400MB free RAM at boot.
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^This. THANKYOU! Finally someone who didn't just read the tagline and post stupid retorts like "This isn't Windows" etc. I thought I was being plenty clear enough when I stated that the problem I was talking about was the fact that the phone goes from blisteringly fast, to painstakingly slow whilst browsing.
Disabling ALL addons (Javascript, Flash etc). from running while browsing stops this from happening 99.9% of the time. I also removed Tasker, much to my displeasure and froze a few more apps and it seems to happen less now but I'm still hovering around the 'workable' part of my phone. Which makes me feel a bit displeased because I didn't buy a phone to be limited by what I can do with it...
dfMails said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Simple question for Google
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Thanks for being another jackass who posts unhelpful crap in threads without actually reading them at all. You might think you're doing people a favor but you're not, and if that's how you roll, then forums aren't the place for you.
KMino said:
Just freeze all of the bloatware. Install a good custom kernel (eg Siyah) and move on! No one to blame but yourself for not doing that or wanting to.
Android is doing its job just fine with memory. It's just bogged down by Samsung and vendor crapware.
Be lucky you ain't in the US, DHS big brother software becoming mandatory soon lol
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It's hard to freeze bloatware when you have a bunch of people posting in forums that they don't know half of what the apps on the SGS3 do and if they are safe to freeze or not. I've done some searches but it seems that most people are generally confused about what is safe or not to freeze. Same thing happened with the SGS2. When I got it I googled (and found this place) what I could freeze and found people nitpicking over what they should, and shouldn't freeze. I have frozen everything that I've found is safe to, from multiple threads on the forums here.
I'll go and read a thread though as to why it's a good idea to flash a new kernel. I'd rather not have any restrictions as it is anyway, so that will be my next step, thanks!
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Thanks a ton to anyone who gave me the time of day and didn't just slam up some copypaste drama that has nothing to do with this thread. Free RAM is wasted RAM but when there isn't enough free RAM that background apps start getting killed (and usually instantly reloaded) then it goes without saying phone gets slower, battery drains faster, performance loss etc.
Excuse my retarded attitude but this isn't even the 10th time here I've had to dodge people who just post crap without even reading anything, and then just move on and do the same thing over and over.
I'm going to flash a new kernel, cross my fingers and freeze a few more apps, turn plug-ins to 'on demand' and cross my fingers again.
Thanks again to everyone who really helped and peace. I added thanks to you guys.
leijonasisu said:
Thanks for being another jackass......""
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Thank you, the same to you!
jnr21 said:
Does people think that android is windows, or why someone allways complain about low ram? People, please learn how android ram management really works.
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yeah. stop think like windows (even though windows 7 ram management is good). andoid load it's system/app in ram to provide faster response. but once you need it more, it will clear unused app to free more ram..not to worry about that..
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yeah. stop think like windows (even though windows 7 ram management is good). andoid load it's system/app in ram to provide faster response. but once you need it more, it will clear unused app to free more ram..not to worry about that..
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The problem begins when it start killing apps you are using instead of killing those bloated apps.
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Are you rooted?
If yes:
1 freeze all the bloatware
2 install v6supercharger and set lowmemorykiller values as low as possible
3 install hardswap script
4 you are done...
Now, make your own search, it is all in xda.
I gave you the hint, Nov it is up to you
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Does your s3 get laggy after a few weeks of usage without a reboot or killing any apps in the task manager ? It happened to me today. I tried playing dead trigger and the game was soooo laggy. At first I thought it was due to an update of the game so I decided to stop playing it. When I launched my internet, the site seemed to froze and start lagging too. I checked my ram usage and it was below 600 but I had a lot of apps in the task manager. I then decided to reboot and everything seemed fine after. Is this normal? Should I go to task manager each time and clear it after I use an app?
Try to restart it from time to time, new update on jelly bean will come soon and things will go much faster.You can look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30626647#post30626647
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Does your s3 get laggy after a few weeks of usage without a reboot or killing any apps in the task manager ? It happened to me today. I tried playing dead trigger and the game was soooo laggy. At first I thought it was due to an update of the game so I decided to stop playing it. When I launched my internet, the site seemed to froze and start lagging too. I checked my ram usage and it was below 600 but I had a lot of apps in the task manager. I then decided to reboot and everything seemed fine after. Is this normal? Should I go to task manager each time and clear it after I use an app?
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I never tried to dont reboot the device for A FEW WEEKS....
I reboot it every 4-6 Days, because i did it in the past with all my devices and went well with it.
Reboot the device if you see slow downs and you will be fine
yea I have the same but don't think its a 'problem', you have to reboot even your computer every now and then to make it work well.
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I'm with CM9 from day 4 with my SGSIII and it never happened to me.
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I'm with CM9 from day 4 with my SGSIII and it never happened to me.
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Maybe the ROM autokills the running programs
NocNoc9595 said:
Does your s3 get laggy after a few weeks of usage without a reboot or killing any apps in the task manager ? It happened to me today. I tried playing dead trigger and the game was soooo laggy. At first I thought it was due to an update of the game so I decided to stop playing it. When I launched my internet, the site seemed to froze and start lagging too. I checked my ram usage and it was below 600 but I had a lot of apps in the task manager. I then decided to reboot and everything seemed fine after. Is this normal? Should I go to task manager each time and clear it after I use an app?
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2 or 3 times a week I use my phone until the battery is flat, then charge it overnight while off. Always helps it. Keeps the battery cells at low percentage alive as well.
My laptop was constantly on charge took it off and it died all the time, as the battery never got used.
Flashing roms every week. Really difficult not to reboot in a few weeks
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Maybe the ROM autokills the running programs
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Most likely...
Yeah, that would make sense the rom over time uses more and more ram! I had this problem and found this out quite be accident
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If anyone is experiencing this problem, I hope the following steps may help.
I would like to express my appreciation to XDA members, who have commended and helped out with this. Credits go to @LordManhattan and @abuihsan . Many thanks for your help.
1/ Do a re-flash: I always thought my device was a c6802, after I flashed c6833, it helped.
2/ Do a factory reset/ Cache wipe/ Dalvik Wipe/ in recovery or in the phone settings.
3/ Install SD-Maid and clean the mess from the programs, also take a look at APPCONTROL to see which is running. You can freeze it here.
4/ Install Performance control to Underclock your CPU. Believe me, 1.7Ghz is far too enough for all the tasks you need.
5/ Use more pwerful tool, like Titanium Backup to stop all the backgound-running apps. You just need to leave the one which were in GREEN color.
6/ Use Wakelock Detector to see which apps get your phone out of deepsleep. Mostly they are Facebook and Messenger. My advice: Disable Facebook notice and if you don't use chat quite often, don't install facebook messenger.
Hope these help.
Personally I had tried a lot of methods, including checking the processes and re-insert the memory card but no such helps. Therefore, if you need any advice or any comments, feel free to send me an PM or reply here, I will gladly help you out, like what the community had helped me our of my situation.
Hi everyone,
Recently I just bought a ZU from a local vendor here. It runs 4.2.2 with no problem. However, I want to get rid of the *new system update* and I also want to use the xperia Themes, I decided to upgrade to 4.3.
My phone model is C6802, and I chose the file here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453921
The upgrade went through fast and smooth, as I had experienced in many Sony devices.
However, after getting to 4.3, I had noticed some problems as follow:
+ Heat: Device heats up very fast, even left alone. Just imagine you have the phone on 100% battery lying on your table, a moment later it heats up and the battery drops dramatically.
+ Battery drop: Just as mentioned above, the battery drops quickly. I do not expect extreme battery life on this device, but since 4.3, it is too low, I can barely make it to 6 hours without doing anything consuming battery.
+ Process: When checking the battery, I notice that most of the process that takes up battery is Android OS, which nearly 50-60%. I use the phone frequently to answer SMS and call, sometimes play games. I think that the most used applications should be the bad-ass screen?
I am running on the 14.2.A.0.290 with R4B.
Anyone had experienced this problem before, or know a solution to fix? Will clearing the Dalvik Cache help? I had re-flash several times but the problem is still there.
Many thanks in advance.
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Sounds like somethings has gone wrong in the update process.
Have you tried backing up all your data and doing a factory reset?
I do not think clearing Dalvik will help you here, sounds like something else is acting up. You could try to install one of the apps designed to detect what is causing the wakelock.
I'm not at my Android tablet at the moment, but I think I used this when I had this problems myself on my Galaxy Note: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector
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fjevel said:
Sounds like somethings has gone wrong in the update process.
Have you tried backing up all your data and doing a factory reset?
I do not think clearing Dalvik will help you here, sounds like something else is acting up. You could try to install one of the apps designed to detect what is causing the wakelock.
I'm not at my Android tablet at the moment, but I think I used this when I had this problems myself on my Galaxy Note:
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First of all, thanks for your reply and suggestion.
I had tried to flash the roms multiple times, but the problem still exists. Furthermore, I even flash back to 4.2.2 and the problem is still there. The phone heats up slowly and battery runs out pretty fast.
I had installed the Wakelock Detector on my device and I will update the situation tomorrow, I will leave it there for a night and see the status tomorrow.
Did you wipe after updating? I had the same issue when i updated to 4.3.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as he's been downgraded to 4.2.2 again, he'd have to wipe. At least that is how it was on my Xperia Z.
-KJ
this might not be related, but I've been noticing much worse battery life today than normal! i normally only drop about 50% in 24 hours, but today I've dropped 30% in just a few hours. Android OS seems to be doing it...
no real heat issue tho, maybe slightly warmer from whatever the OS is doing, but nothing too major. running stock rooted 4.3
had that on my Xperia Z on a 4.1 or 4.2 build (dunno which one). Sounds strange, but simply turning off the sync fixed the problem, give it a try :laugh:.
Hope it also helps on your XZU.
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Did you wipe after updating? I had the same issue when i updated to 4.3.
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At first I did not choose to wipe Data in Flashtool, then I flashed again, this time I checked everything.
the problem still exists.
UPDATE:
Yesterday after working hours, I had rooted and installed BetterBatteryStats, Performance Control to monitor the system. I also had WaveLockDetector and Titanium Backup installed.
It appeared that the CPU runs all the time, in the highest state (2.15 Ghz), the phone never goes to DeepSleep and Awake all the time.
On Performance control, I had underclocked the CPU to 1.5Ghz and the temperature seems to be cooler.
I had tried to freeze a lot of applications via Titanium backup but so such luck.
Still researching.
However, many thanks to your kind replies. At least I know that I'm not alone with this problem :good:
justsomebody said:
At first I did not choose to wipe Data in Flashtool, then I flashed again, this time I checked everything.
the problem still exists.
UPDATE:
Yesterday after working hours, I had rooted and installed BetterBatteryStats, Performance Control to monitor the system. I also had WaveLockDetector and Titanium Backup installed.
It appeared that the CPU runs all the time, in the highest state (2.15 Ghz), the phone never goes to DeepSleep and Awake all the time.
On Performance control, I had underclocked the CPU to 1.5Ghz and the temperature seems to be cooler.
I had tried to freeze a lot of applications via Titanium backup but so such luck.
Still researching.
However, many thanks to your kind replies. At least I know that I'm not alone with this problem :good:
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I ever had no deep sleep problem with 4.3, even in stamina and airplane mode, and with location-off too, I checked with BBS and found the 'trigger' is a process under google now app. I use GREENIFY and get the google now hybernated. Everything fines now and I still can use google now as it only hybernated when not in use : )
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I ever had no deep sleep problem with 4.3, even in stamina and airplane mode, and with location-off too, I checked with BBS and found the 'trigger' is a process under google now app.and get the google now hybernated. Everything fines now and I still can use google now as it only hybernated when not in use : )
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hey, thanks for your reply. I did the same to you, even with Titanium backup to ensure this will never shows up again, but CPU keeps throtlling at 100%. I still can not find an answer to this 100% thing. now the phone is quite hot in my pocket, I decided to put in my bag and even turn off to keep it from heating.
I will try another rom and update.
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hey, thanks for your reply. I did the same to you, even with Titanium backup to ensure this will never shows up again, but CPU keeps throtlling at 100%. I still can not find an answer to this 100% thing. now the phone is quite hot in my pocket, I decided to put in my bag and even turn off to keep it from heating.
I will try another rom and update.
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do you use any cleaner/task killer app? before trying other rom or update, maybe you need to uninstall it, reboot recovery and wipe cache and see the result.
I don't know if this is relevance but while using greenify I also uninstall the previous cleaner app and replace with another one that I think is better.
now my c6833 has great deep sleep.
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do you use any cleaner/task killer app? before trying other rom or update, maybe you need to uninstall it, reboot recovery and wipe cache and see the result.
I don't know if this is relevance but while using greenify I also uninstall the previous cleaner app and replace with another one that I think is better.
now my c6833 has great deep sleep.
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Hi, Thanks again for your advice.
Would you please give me the name of the cleaner apps that you think are way better?
Are you running on 4.3 stock or on some modified roms?
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Hi, Thanks again for your advice.
Would you please give me the name of the cleaner apps that you think are way better?
Are you running on 4.3 stock or on some modified roms?
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The thing is, you don't need a task killer/cleaner app. It was useful way back on Android 2.1/2.3, but you shouldn't use it at all on 4.0+. You're actually making things worse.
mine has been heating up as well. the battery isn't draining like how yours is, but any kind of use will heat the top back side of the phone. I checked and after killing all apps, my cpu load was still around 65%. is that normal? no custom flash here. locked bootloader. updated through pcc normally. I'd imagine this is why 4.3 isn't running as buttery smooth like everyone else.
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mine has been heating up as well. the battery isn't draining like how yours is, but any kind of use will heat the top back side of the phone. I checked and after killing all apps, my cpu load was still around 65%. is that normal? no custom flash here. locked bootloader. updated through pcc normally. I'd imagine this is why 4.3 isn't running as buttery smooth like everyone else.
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No, that's not normal. Mine's around 20-30 degress celsius (depending on what i'm doing). Even streaming 1080p videos shouldn't make it hot or even mildly hot. When i had the heating problem, two cores would always be stuck at 2150 MHz. Now one core is active at 960 MHz when the screen is on. CPU load is around 20 and 60% (single core). Temperature is currently at 26 degrees. Also, stop killing apps and processes. Most of them are set to start automatically, so when you kill them over and over again, they'll start again and they'll use even more battery. Android is built to manage resources very well on its own, and it's not operating like Windows or any other computer OS. Just leave it alone unless something has gone rouge and you don't have a choice.
I'm on stock 290, rooted and extremely debloated.
- Current battery level: 88%
- Current uptime: 3 h 30 min
- Current screentime: 1 hour (browsing etc.)
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No, that's not normal. Mine's around 20-30 degress celsius (depending on what i'm doing). Even streaming 1080p videos shouldn't make it hot or even mildly hot. When i had the heating problem, two cores would always be stuck at 2150 MHz. Now one core is active at 960 MHz when the screen is on. CPU load is around 20 and 60% (single core). Temperature is currently at 26 degrees. Also, stop killing apps and processes. Most of them are set to start automatically, so when you kill them over and over again, they'll start again and they'll use even more battery. Android is built to manage resources very well on its own, and it's not operating like Windows or any other computer OS. Just leave it alone unless something has gone rouge and you don't have a choice.
I'm on stock 290, rooted and extremely debloated.
- Current battery level: 88%
- Current uptime: 3 h 30 min
- Current screentime: 1 hour (browsing etc.)
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hmm... yea that sounds like the problem i am having. im noticing two cores stuck at 2150mhz with a third kicking in here and there. how were you able to fix it? just a fresh install of .290?
so as far as the apps go, i have Du Battery Saver installed and the "optimize" button is supposed to clear up some of the background junk. are you saying that i should leave the optimize button alone and just let android figure itself out?
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hmm... yea that sounds like the problem i am having. im noticing two cores stuck at 2150mhz with a third kicking in here and there. how were you able to fix it? just a fresh install of .290?
so as far as the apps go, i have Du Battery Saver installed and the "optimize" button is supposed to clear up some of the background junk. are you saying that i should leave the optimize button alone and just let android figure itself out?
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What i'm saying is that you should uninstall that crappy app. Task killers were useful three years ago when Android devices had slow processors and low amount of RAM. What you're doing now is killing everything everytime you tap that button. WHY do you want to do that? What's the point of having 2GB of RAM when you don't want to use it? Are you always killing processes on your computer too? Would you do it if your computer had 32GB of RAM with 30GB available? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Android is a modern OS that can handle this on its own. If you only have 300MB RAM left and you want to play Asphalt 8 which requires (i'm guessing) 500MB RAM, Android will find the oldest and less frequently used process and kill it. It's that easy.
You can read more about it here and here.
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What i'm saying is that you should uninstall that crappy app. Task killers were useful three years ago when Android devices had slow processors and low amount of RAM. What you're doing now is killing everything everytime you tap that button. WHY do you want to do that? What's the point of having 2GB of RAM when you don't want to use it? Are you always killing processes on your computer too? Would you do it if your computer had 32GB of RAM with 30GB available? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Android is a modern OS that can handle this on its own. If you only have 300MB RAM left and you want to play Asphalt 8 which requires (i'm guessing) 500MB RAM, Android will find the oldest and less frequently used process and kill it. It's that easy.
You can read more about it here and here.
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gotcha. I get what you're saying.
now that that is settled, what to do about the original problem? phone is still heating up.
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ij0rgei said:
gotcha. I get what you're saying.
now that that is settled, what to do about the original problem? phone is still heating up.
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I think it'll be a little easier if you tell us what you've done till now. We have no idea what you've tried and not tried.
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LordManhattan said:
I think it'll be a little easier if you tell us what you've done till now. We have no idea what you've tried and not tried.
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ok. so I haven't done anything at all to remedy the situation. I figured I'd ask about it before messing it up myself. I upgraded to .290 via pcc. it updated fine with no errors. once it was done updating, it was hot and battery was diminished. I had seen on another thread that most people had that happened so I didn't see it as an issue, just a side effect of the update process.
I have been checking back to see if anyone was having heating issues with 4.3 after the update and didn't hear about it until I had seen this thread. the OP stated he flashed .290 on his 6802 and is rooted. I am not, so I wasn't sure if the steps he was taking were the same given my 6833 being completely stock.
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I usually do not root my tablets, but I am thinking about rooting my nexus 9. I really enjoy nexus products and I love htc products so I thought the Nexus 9 would be great, but the lag that this tablet has is horrible. I read that it might be hardware issue, since the processor uses denver, but I also heard it might be software related. So I want to ask if the guys who have rooted their tablet experienced less lag or not? If you happen to experience less lag then I would be more inclined to root the tablet. Thanks.
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Rooting is not going to change wether it lags or not.
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jd1639 said:
Rooting is not going to change wether it lags or not.
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OK maybe I should have been more clear... I want to know if some people who had rooted and flashed a custom aosp room noticed less lag or not... Is the lag driven from a software issue or because of the new architecture of the processor?
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cables2590 said:
OK maybe I should have been more clear... I want to know if some people who had rooted and flashed a custom aosp room noticed less lag or not... Is the lag driven from a software issue or because of the new architecture of the processor?
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Ok, it helps to be clear. Rooting and flashing are two different things. You can flash a rom without rooting. I'm on stock and have not noticed any significant lag. When you have lag check in developer options, process stats. See where your memory is. If it's in critical clear out open tabs.
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Ok, it helps to be clear. Rooting and flashing are two different things. You can flash a rom without rooting. I'm on stock and have not noticed any significant lag. When you have lag check in developer options, process stats. See where your memory is. If it's in critical clear out open tabs.
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OK that does make sense and I'll keep an eye on that, but when I checked now, my memory is in normal condition... However, it is on the closer side of critical though, so that might explain that I experience lag when I open a bigger app... I'm not completely used to the way lollipop multitask
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This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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Okay, I guess here's something wrong with your device. My N9 never takes this much time to return to the home screen. Occasionally there are some short breaks when returning to the home screen of approximately 2 - 3 seconds...
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This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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Yeah that don't sound right Currently mine lag for 2 seconds the most... I just feel like it should not lag... It does seem however that putting a custom rom helps a little... Just my two sense
I have a lot installed on my nexus 9 but my nexus 6 has the same apps and even more installed. The Nexus 6 is instant and buttery smooth. My nexus 9 also can take a while to screen rotate.
The Nvidia chipset is very driver dependent, therefore software dependent. Read the Anandtech reiew article and it will clarify why there are short pauses/freezes sometimes with the N9.
Let's hope 5.1 fixes this...
you want nasty lag, goto htc's N9 web page.. I've not seen a poorly coded webpage with that type of lag in ages.
I know, its not the lag you are talking about , but I had to say something about it someplace ?
http://www.htc.com/us/tablets/nexus-9/
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I don't notice lag on my N9, but I just came from using my N7 2012. Its horrible, so my 9 seems supercharged. I do have freeze ups in Chrome occasionally, but that's about it. I must not max out my memory enough.
Wiping the cache seemed to help a little. I'm going to sell my Nexus 9. For a flagship reference there shouldn't be any lag. I'm sticking to Qualcomm chip set for now.
I have never rooted my N9 and got my device in Nov. I'm running the latest 5.01 and started to notice lag creeping in every 30 - 45 seconds (for no apparent reason). It wasn't very noticeable surfing the web or navigating the tablet but became very apparent playing games. Power cycling the device did nothing.. I was hoping the 5.1 update would solve the problem but grew too impatient waiting for it to arrive so I decided to flash the stock 5.01 image onto my device (from google site). All the lag is gone now, games that were previously unplayable due to the lag are now buttery smooth again. Not sure what caused the lag to begin with but stock 5.01 image reflashing solved my problems.
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I have never rooted my N9 and got my device in Nov. I'm running the latest 5.01 and started to notice lag creeping in every 30 - 45 seconds (for no apparent reason). It wasn't very noticeable surfing the web or navigating the tablet but became very apparent playing games. Power cycling the device did nothing.. I was hoping the 5.1 update would solve the problem but grew too impatient waiting for it to arrive so I decided to flash the stock 5.01 image onto my device (from google site). All the lag is gone now, games that were previously unplayable due to the lag are now buttery smooth again. Not sure what caused the lag to begin with but stock 5.01 image reflashing solved my problems.
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Yeah a few people has mentioned that flashing the stock image helped out quit a bit, but I'm running a rooted version of 5.1 and it's running great... Which I think means it's the memory leak causing the issue, and even though there is still a memory leak on 5.1 it's much better...
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In my case I don't think it was the memory leak issue causing the lag. If that was the case then power cycling the device would have resolved the issue momentarily. But it did not. The lag was consistently present regardless of the numbers of power cycles and clearing of all "recent apps".
I can understand the frustration some have voiced in the forums making it sound like the N9 is plagued with issues. Re-flashing stock 5.01and bringing back my tablet to the same state (reinstalled all apps again) it was in solved my problems. Hopefully the 5.1 OTA fixes whatever lag has been introduced with previous updates.
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Which I think means it's the memory leak causing the issue, and even though there is still a memory leak on 5.1 it's much better...
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The lag is getting annoying.