I've taken my S-ON HTC Incredible S from Sasktel (Android 2.3.X) and go it to S-OFF. I then installed Clockwork Recovery. I did a NANDroid backup to SD Card, made a backup of that just in case onto my computer.
I'm now debating between installing Cyanogen or Virtuous Quattro CFW for ICS.
The question at hand involves some information I cannot verify. I've read it is unsafe to recovery from a NANDroid backup on a different kernel version. I'm assuming the kernel has been upgraded from Android 2.3.X to Android 4.X. So when I flash the Virtuous Quattro it will effectively make my NANDroid backup useless?
If this is true then I have no good recovery protection in case this bricks my phone.
Just looking for some advice before I press the big red button.
Well I updated to CM7 nightly and then did the NANDroid restore. The phone went back to stock no problem.
I'm still concerned about trying out ICS and breaking my ability to get back to stock.
I suppose this has been a stupid question since there has been no reply.
Google search yields a good degree of random results. Some say it is safe, others say unsafe. My understanding is NANDroid is a complete backup. So I could flash anything to my device, just so long I can still boot ClockWork Recovery, I can always go back to my stock android 2.3.X ROM.
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So i factory reset my phone (on stock), made a nandroid backup, then flashed one of bionix's roms. a couple days later i want to try another rom so i went into rom manager and chose to restore and picked the backup that i made earlier while on stock. It completed the restore process and went back to the clockworkmod recovery screen, then i chose reboot. now the phone sticks at the vibrant screen, but makes the bootup sound. weird huh? do i have to use odin? or is there somehow i can still restore using clockworkmod. i am able to still get into recovery btw . if the only way to fix is thru odin, can someone link a current post with instructions? thanks peeps.
BTW i was on JI6 when backing up, and i read fusion 1.1 runs on JI2 so......help?
Feel free anyone to correct me since I'm also fairly new at this, but it sounds like you may have soft bricked your phone. The way I understand it is that you needed to flash back to a stock kernel before restoring your stock ROM backup.
Getting back to a stock kernel can be done by either flashing a ROM that uses/applies it (they usually state what kernel they're using), or just flashing the stock kernel yourself, which can be downloaded here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733792
Anyway, here is a thread that explains ODIN: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=810130
Good luck! I fear I'll be in your shoes at some point, so hopefully I helped a little.
1. What is the difference between performing a nandroid backup after booting into recovery and doing one through Rom Manager?
2. Where are the backups saved and is there any chance of them being overwritten by flashing a rom?
No difference
In the clockwork folder, internal memory.
You will not lose this because the rom's do not wipe internal, just data (apps)
I need a bit of clarification. What exactly is a nandroid...if i assume that it is a complete back up of all data and apps, would i be correct? As you can see im a bit confused. I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475&page=2 (just in case i wanted to revert back to a stock rom for what ever reason) is the nandroid used once you flash back to stock using odin to get everything back to stock or can you us the nandroid to get back to stock?
Ive searched on here and cant really find a straight answer.
Thanks for the help!
I had zero problems when rooting and flashing my G1, but now with my Vibrant I am not sure what I did.
A few excellent stickies at the top but I seem to not be making any progress.
Here are the steps I took.
I had a stock Vibrant running 2.1
I downloaded ROM Manager, installed clockwork mod.
Did a backup of my current system ( was I supposed to do a clockwork AND nandroid?)
Downloaded and successfully installed a ROM called Blackhole 1.0
it runs ok but didn't give me the option to switch from 3G to EDGE data, and then I couldn't get internet access at all so i decided to restore my original stock vibrant system.
So I rebooted into recovery, selected restore (my phone won't go into recovery anymore for some reason) and waited, it took a while, then I rebooted (forgot to wipe), but it just got stuck on the Vibrant screen. So I booted into recovery mode again and wiped just user data not cache and rebooted, same thing stuck at Vibrant.
Now i keep hearing about something called ODIN, what I can tell it is some kind of flasher program for ROMS, nobody seems to give any kind of link or anything, is it greymarket or something?
So where am I now? I think the excellent noob guide needs to be updated a bit more.
My phone can get into download mode (whatever it is for i don't know) but it won't get into recovery mode anymore.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
I have done the samething as you, coming from a nexus one it seemed easier to flash roms without worrying about downgrading kernels or what not. Recently I was on Nero froyo and flashed to a different rom, and tried to revert back but ended up stuck at the vibrant screen. Think it has something to do with voodoo lag.
Anyways I had to use Odin with the no brick froyo off ebproductions. Ran that and uploaded clockwork, reinstalled voodoo lag fix and was able to nandroid back to my Nero set up. Somewhat of a pain but once you've done it, no need to worry about bricking
xtone said:
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
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So the steps that are in this page?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
GreggoryD502 said:
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
Powered by Axura with a dash of Voodoo
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Well as long as I can use Odin if I f-up royally like above then I might give it a shot.
Need to read about downgrading kernals or whatever. Might just wait for Cyanogen 6.1
Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
thegreatcity said:
Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
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OK I will just do the long way from now on. I use this phone on AT&T, I was worried that I flushed $500 down the toilet but ever since i modded my first phone way back in the day i've been addicted.
Running Odin and my phone is in download mode, about to flash this b**ch.
wish me luck.
I flashed Odin on my phone to revert to stock. Re-Rooted it but now I can't flash Clockworkmod. Please help D:
use the update.zip posted here. You want B.
My question:
Is it ok to recover a Nandroid backup that was created on a "Stock Samsung" ROM (meaning right out of the box) while you are currently running a Custom ROM? Or do you have to flash a Stock ROM first?
Same question goes for vice-versa.
Here are the details and why I am asking.
I searched and found an answer, but the poster was not 100% sure.
I have a stock 2.2-based Nandroid backup.
I flashed Biffmod ROM.
I realized I wanted to make a backup of one of my apps from my stock environment.
So, I recovered my stock 2.2 nandroid backup.
Recovery failed in the middle, and "soft-bricked" my phone. << this is why I am asking
I don't know if that is the correct term, but it wouldn't get past vibrant screen and couldn't get into recovery mode.
Incase you're curious, I was able to get into download mode just fine so no actual Bricking here.
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My question:
Is it ok to recover a Nandroid backup that was created on a "Stock Samsung" ROM (meaning right out of the box) while you are currently running a Custom ROM? Or do you have to flash a Stock ROM first?
Same question goes for vice-versa.
Here are the details and why I am asking.
I searched and found an answer, but the poster was not 100% sure.
I have a stock 2.2-based Nandroid backup.
I flashed Biffmod ROM.
I realized I wanted to make a backup of one of my apps from my stock environment.
So, I recovered my stock 2.2 nandroid backup.
Recovery failed in the middle, and "soft-bricked" my phone. << this is why I am asking
I don't know if that is the correct term, but it wouldn't get past vibrant screen and couldn't get into recovery mode.
Incase you're curious, I was able to get into download mode just fine so no actual Bricking here.
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you should be able to
im guessing it 'didnt work' because nandoird doesnt back up the kernel i dont think so you'll need to flash a compatible kernel seperatly after for the rom you backed up
You need to odin back to stock when coming back from a CM based (biff mod). I would suggest odining this JK2 rom.
http://eb-productions.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=samsungsgs&action=display&thread=3
This is 2.2 based and already comes prerooted and has busybox. Then restore your nandroid.
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Is this possible? The full details are I had my phone stolen, and got a new one with android 4.0.4 on it. I have on my computer a copy of my latest backup of my old cognition gingerbread rom. Can I just use CWM to recover to my old rom, or do i need to first downgrade to a gingerbread rom, and then recover?
Thankyou very much for assistance
Edit: Also, I don't actually want to use the old rom, I just need the contacts it saved, afterwards I'll wipe everything and install a clean ICS mod. In case there's any way of doing this without having to revert
You'll probably need to restore the backup with a version of CWM close to the one the backup was made with, you can often have problems restoring if you're using a CWM version a lot (say 12 mths or more) newer than the one you made the backup with.
So I'd probably go GB/with a rooted GB kernel first, restore the backup & go from there. I mean, it could work first try with an ICS kernel that's running a recent CWM build, but there's a fair chance it won't.
Edit - And be really careful with stock 4.0.4, don't do a wipe while you're running that.
Wow. I just... wow.
Ok, so I did the stupid thing and just tried to restore my old backup without doing proper downgrading first and it ended up soft bricking my machine, couldn't get recovery mode up, but I got into download mode. So I downloaded my country's stock gingerbread rom from samsung's site and flashed it with odin just to see what happens, and somehow my old rom was working again, and I have all my contacts and data. saved everything up to google, upgraded to ICS, import.
Everything went better than expected.
Thanks for the help
Told you Important thing is you managed to fix it yourself without asking silly questions in Q&A. Not many people seem to be able to do that these days.
Well done. I'm glad you got it sorted
Edit -You're welcome