HI! i rooted my device some time ago,when i had hboot 1.49.007 following this.after some time i had to unroot it because i had to take it into warranty(IN MY COUNTRY AN HTC PHONE IS WARRANTY VALID IF IT HAS A "LOCKED" BOOTLOADER{not relocked} AND S-ON).I simply made it "LOCKED" S-ON following this.
Now the question.My brother recently thought he wants to root but he has HBOOT 1.53.007(did the OTA).He doesn't want to lose his warranty since the phone is quite new(6 months old).As far as I seen yet there are only methods implying that you unlock the bootloader via htcdev.com .As far as I know that implies that you will have a "RELOCKED" bootloader forever.I also saw some htcdev unlock methods and after them downgrading to HBOOT 1.49.Is it possible to achive unlocked s-off and later,if he needs it,to achive locked s-on?
THANKS!
It is. Check the developement forum. Near the top there are some stickies on how to achieve s-off which is more reversible than HTCdev unlock method. Juaponutbear seems to be the easiest but that's just my opinion. As with any rooting method, these carry the risk of permanantly bricking your device. Read all the documentation before trying it.
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Desire has Downgrade HBOOT, so you can return to stock completely. How is possible with complete access to the system to have pure HBOOT, aka not relocked? Can be the same be done with E3D as well?
Terepin said:
Desire has Downgrade HBOOT, so you can return to stock completely. How is possible with complete access to the system to have pure HBOOT, aka not relocked? Can be the same be done with E3D as well?
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If by "pure HBOOT, aka not relocked" you're meaning after "relocking" the bootloader having it NOT display "relocked", this is only possible using the Revolutionary method.
The official HTC unlock method does not allow this, at least on the CDMA version of the EVO 3D. On the GSM version, the limitation of the official unlock method can be bypassed, probably very similar to the Desire method by downgrading the Hboot, then using the revolutionary method.
If that isn't clear enough, or the question is different, please add more detail.
Hope that helps clarify!
Yes, I unlocked bootloader with HTC tool, then downgraded HBOOT and S-OFFed. After using both RUU and manual update, the "relock" status was back. Why?
Terepin said:
Yes, I unlocked bootloader with HTC tool, then downgraded HBOOT and S-OFFed. After using both RUU and manual update, the "relock" status was back. Why?
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The CDMA device doesn't have this option and that is generally the crowd I hear from the most. You're the first GSM user to confirm that after downgrading and being s-off with revolutionary, once bootloader is upgraded and re-locked, it will display as "relocked".
Off the top of my head, there aren't too many divergent paths to take, but more details to your process would help.
While running Revolutionary and S-OFF, directly upgrade either via RUU or flashing an updated bootloader. At this point, does the updated bootloader show Relocked?
If not, is the internal memory still unlocked? If so, is the internal memory locked?
Depending on this outcome, we can formulate the next steps. At this point, we would want to know:
1) what is displayed on the bootloader, locked, unlocked or relocked?
2) what is the *real* status of the internal memory, write protected or write unprotected?
The question really hangs on how the latest stock bootloader determines the lock, unlocked and relocked status which it displays. This can be considered fairly low level and there is not a lot of publicly posted information or research on this specific topic.
Any feedback or testing you want to provide would be help and informative! The CDMA version of the EVO 3D can't perform these tests, only the GSM version is able to downgrade, as far as we've seen.
Hope that helps!
Version of HBOOT is irrelevant, when I replace it with ship HBOOT it says *unlocked*, yet still S-OFF. Only ENG HBOOT will remove it, but after replacing it will bring it back.
But you gave me an idea. I'm going to try to replace HBOOT, then unlock it, S-OFF again and then to re-flash stock ROM.
EDIT: I still have access to NAND memory.
Yeah, that didn't help.
I have a theory that it must be something outside HBOOT.
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HI all! I want to know if downgrading HBOOT 1.53.007 is possible.
Before I did the OTA update I was able to downgrade my 1.49.0018 HBOOT to 1.49.007 using this method and to easily get S-OFF and unlock bootloader(http://mess-hall.co.uk/2012/04/rooting-htc-evo-3d-hboot-1-49-0018/).Also it was very easy for me to obtain S-ON and LOCKED using this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710033).
Now my question/s.If I do the same thing to this 1.53.007 HBOOT(put the PG86IMG.zip in the root of the sdcard and open phone in fastboot and let it flash):
1.will it downgrade my device to 1.49.007?
2.will it brick my device?
Can you suggest something else?I mean I want to obtain S-OFF and an unlocked bootloader BUT NOT WITH htcdev.com method.
THANKS!!!
1. No
2. No
I don't think there is a way without htcdev. I had to do it last night and searched all over for an alternative. I tried what you are suggesting as well, but it runs through the flash process in bootloader then nothing.
I bit the bullet in the end and went htc dev followed by the wire trick on io. Got hboot unlocked then soff then flashed an old stock to get hboot 1.47. Just in case I accidentally s-on at some point!
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Greetings,
I'm sending my phone in for repair as bluetooth has stopped working. I am currently on the OTA ICS, S-On with a RELOCKED flag on Hboot.
Question: How many people would bother with rooting, s-off, just to relock without the flag?
In theory, because I went through HTCdev, they should already know this...right?
Thanks.
Mark
Most would say to be completely sure they don't give you trouble about it being unlocked go ahead and s-off so you can get it back to saying locked instead of relocked. Personally I sent my first Rezound back unlocked and didn't have a problem. I actually don't know if Verizon gets the info about you unlocking through htcdev or even checks. If you were going through HTC then that would be different.
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I just successfully performed S-off but my bootloader changed to "locked". Is that normal?
Also, I declined to install jp modified hboot because I was not sure what it was. Do I have to install another hboot after S-off?
S-OFF > unlocked bootloader. You don't need an unlocked bootloader when you are S-OFF.
With a stock locked bootloader you won't be able to use most fastboot commands. That's the purpose of the jpbear hboot. It allows you to use them without unlocking. However, if you ever go back S-ON, you have to have a stock bootloader or you'll brick, so you should only use a modded hboot if you need the fastboot commands. Otherwise, stock is just fine.
I read a lot about this subject in this thread last night:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852228
Could give you some useful info on the pros and cons of flashing the j-nut hboot or not and keeping locked or unlocking.
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S-OFF > unlocked bootloader. You don't need an unlocked bootloader when you are S-OFF.
With a stock locked bootloader you won't be able to use most fastboot commands. That's the purpose of the jpbear hboot. It allows you to use them without unlocking. However, if you ever go back S-ON, you have to have a stock bootloader or you'll brick, so you should only use a modded hboot if you need the fastboot commands. Otherwise, stock is just fine.
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Sorry for the noob questions. I don't know much about the tech, I can only follow the instructions. So, do I need a modified bootloader if I want to flash Rom that require S-off or is the stock bootloader OK? I want to flash a Rom for which I need to be S-off and on the latest RUU.
I'd guess that 99% of people who do the jbear s-off procedure take the modified hboot as an uniformed choice. They figure if jbear provided this, then it must be great.
If you do not install the jbear hboot, you should unlock your bootloader using htcdev unlock bin file. You will have the following benefits with s-off, stock unlocked hboot:
o can ruu with unlocked bootloader. you will never need to relock before performing an ruu.
o install ROMs easier without the need to install kernels via ph98img.zip. method
o able to fastboot flash recovery and boot/kernel
o less bricking risks in the future
being s-off with the locked jbear modified hboot has the advantages of:
o displaying Locked, but can do everything an unlocked bootloader can do.
o makes it easier to lie to Verizon that you never tampered with the phone, never unlocked, never ROMed, it is not your fault the phone is bricked.
o able to fastboot flash recovery and boot/kernel
o able to fastboot flash hboot/bootloaders and some other fastboot commands that no developers are using.
One guy went so far as to hexedit his hboot to display "s-on" and "locked" to hide the fact that he is s-off and unlocked. He bricked his phone on his first attempt. got phone insurance to replace his phone. Then he got others to test his later attempts which work and didnt brick. So if you want to lie with impunity to Verizon, don't use jbear hboot, instead use this guy's hboot. you'll find it in the developer's forum.
Personally I take great care and deliberation about what changes I make to my phone because I do not plan on lieing to get someone else to pay for my mistakes.
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I just successfully performed S-off but my bootloader changed to "locked". Is that normal?
Also, I declined to install jp modified hboot because I was not sure what it was. Do I have to install another hboot after S-off?
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Yes it is normal....see what the other guys say about jb hboot.....for me, since I haven't and don't plan on having to use fastboot commands, I just left it locked with stock hboot.
How can I reunlock mine? S off locked bootloader
An old HTC Incredible 4G
EzraDi said:
How can I reunlock mine? S off locked bootloader
An old HTC Incredible 4G
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This is the Rezound forums. You should find the Incredible forums and ask there, although I think a lot of Rezound users used to have Incredibles, but it's pretty dead here now that the phone is 4 years old.
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This is the Rezound forums. You should find the Incredible forums and ask there, although I think a lot of Rezound users used to have Incredibles, but it's pretty dead here now that the phone is 4 years old.
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Thank you
Ok so i just got the One yesterday and im not really sure that much about it. Im going to root it soon, but i see S-Off and S-On everywhere. What Exactly is S-Off and S-on?Thanks in advance
JDT283 said:
Ok so i just got the One yesterday and im not really sure that much about it. Im going to root it soon, but i see S-Off and S-On everywhere. What Exactly is S-Off and S-on?Thanks in advance
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The S equals "Security." So, S-OFF is "Security Off", meaning you can flash every aspect of your device -- from Radios to Bootloaders (not that I'd recommend doing that). S-ON just means that you can only flash custom recoveries, ROMs, and kernels. If you have S-OFF, you effectively have an unlocked bootloader, just more freedom. S-OFF also allows you to relock your bootloader (and have it say LOCKED), whereas relocking your bootloader on S-ON relocks it to RELOCKED. Hope that answers your questions