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Hi guys! I have a couple questions for anyone who can answer them.
First, is it known whether 3D is only shown when the phone is in landscape, or does it also display in portrait?
Secondly, if it is always displaying in 3D, can we expect there to be an API to convert apps and/or view current 2D apps in 3D?
EDIT:I have found several blog articles stating that it does display in both landscape AND portrait.
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-evo-3d-vs-lg-optimus-3d-taking-the-fight-to-another-dimension/
Which brings up even more questions!
Is the screen using parallax barrier technology to display everything in 3D or is this some new fangled screen.
If this is the case (i.e. parallax barrier) are we only going to see half of the 960x540 resolution (480x270) when in 2D mode? I'm asking you parallax barrier experts!
Also, still no answer to my second question, but I assume we won't know at all until the phone is actually released.
3d landscape only
Probably
The htc evo 3D can do both portrait and landscape in 3D. This feature has been used a a key selling point over the optimus 3D (which can only do 3D in portrait mode)
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a couple videos of the 3d, I've seen more but all do the same thing, to view the 3d turn it on the side, not one mention of portrait 3d or pic showing the pentile matrix "optical alignment 2d tear" if you will, which leads me to believe it is landscape only, if you can post information "outside of the optimus comparison which is full of inaccurate information" to prove 3d in portrait mode you will have my thanks because I would LOVE it more, but I can't find that information
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNZBjQbAzU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlL76qWCUjA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0l_E-sr6JY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I don't know who to believe! This is a major question and a huge selling point. For example, if you don't own any other 3D technology what else does this phone do for you than alow you to look at your pictures strictly on your device. If this is a hardware limitation, I can understand, but if they just didn't put in the effort to make the UI 3D then I will be throughly dissapointed.
superGOAT said:
I don't know who to believe! This is a major question and a huge selling point. For example, if you don't own any other 3D technology what else does this phone do for you than alow you to look at your pictures strictly on your device. If this is a hardware limitation, I can understand, but if they just didn't put in the effort to make the UI 3D then I will be throughly dissapointed.
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right now I have an optimus 3D in my possession and when you take 3D pictures it takes them in .jps format, which is essentially just two jpegs which then gets rendered by the software for the 3D. So you still get to transfer the .jps files to you computer (for backup purposes) and then on the phone convert it to 2d which will create a jpg of both frames. =)
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right now I have an optimus 3D in my possession and when you take 3D pictures it takes them in .jps format, which is essentially just two jpegs which then gets rendered by the software for the 3D. So you still get to transfer the .jps files to you computer (for backup purposes) and then on the phone convert it to 2d which will create a jpg of both frames. =)
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That's cool, I figured that would be the case. In fact, I remember on the androidandme interview, the rep told them that when you shot stills in 3D it also saves a 2D copy.
This doesn't help my question though! I'm wondering if the phone can display 3D while in PORTRAIT.
First person to give me a proven answer gets... something.
EDIT: I beat you to it. Updated OP.
reread post 4, that optimus comparison is full of inaccurate information and cannot be used as a source and is the only site stating 3d in portrait
yeah sorry, can't help w/ the issue of portrait vs landscape haha... the optimus and evo 3d screens are diff. Buuttttt just an fyi the optimus is only landscape.
In other words will recordings from the camera done in 3d be viewable in 2d?
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Yes I believe so
Eat it iPhone said:
In other words will recordings from the camera done in 3d be viewable in 2d?
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Don't have a link, but have seen youtube videos, where the sprint reps say that you can sent 3D content to devices without 3D. So yeah, it will be.
+1 I heard it will it just turns off the feed from one of the cameras
thought he meant, what happens if you sent a video made in 3d to a different phone.?
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thought he meant, what happens if you sent a video made in 3d to a different phone.?
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It would most likely be converted to 2d just as it would if you put it onto a non 3d tv or computer
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nate420 said:
It would most likely be converted to 2d just as it would if you put it onto a non 3d tv or computer
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But I am wondering if it will appear double when trying to view on a non-3d device...
I'm sure it'll look "2d" to a regular pc/phone. Gleaming from the shots that were uploaded on picasa, I'm assuming they just look like lower resolution pics to the 2d crowd.
Thats a good question. Will it have the red/blue double video like non glasses free 3d devices. I will have to send a 3d video from the g-slate at work to my phone to see what it looks like. Could have different settings I guess but I would think it records the video in 3d so there wouldnt be a way to format it once its recorded to 2d. Just my opinion but I will check that out tomorrow.
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to answer op's question http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/06/radio-shack-explains-how-to-turn-3d-onoff-on-htc-evo-3d.html
I'm wondering if there will be a way that I can convert my normal movies(2d) into a 3d format to watch on the phone. Anyone know of anything like this?
It is simple, If you have 3d capable you will see it 3d, if not you will see it 2d.
If you take a 3d picture and wanna share it on Facebook, it will turn
2D(I think until Facebook, make photos 3d capable on their website).
In YouTube if you upload 3d you will see it 3d. You can browse HTC YouTube site and there is The EVO 3d comercial in 2d and in 3d and you will see something like if you take the glases off in a 3d movie.
About sending 3d content I think that will depend if the phone is 3d capable or not, but if not if will convert the photo in 2d.
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Read more first, then ask questions. C'mon guy. Your smarter than this.. I know it.
To clarify, I'm not talking about sharing via a service like YouTube.
I'm talking about video and photos recorded in 3d (from the cameras) and how the original file will be viewed on 2d devices. For example from my laptop if I copy the video to it.
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There is a video reviews in Wirefly that shows a 2d computer running a 3d video file recorded from the EVO and it shows 2 videos in one window, like if you are playing a 2 player game in ps3
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The 3d videos will deff appear in a split screen look in 2d. Check the wirefly preview of the device and ffwd to about 6:15 in the video and youll see. I would assume the same would be for pictures too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=youtu.be
I found more info about this Today.
I was searching in Youtube videos Review of the EVO 3D and a found what you was asking.
The phone will have in the Share option, it will ask you if you are sharing this file to a 3D or a 2D Phone...
Is about 4:25 or 4:30...
Just one question:
Can i convert 2d videos to 3D, then transfer them onto EVO 3D for playback since it support 3D playback?
Any idea?
yao847zi said:
Just one question:
Can i convert 2d videos to 3D, then transfer them onto EVO 3D for playback since it support 3D playback?
Any idea?
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You can't make 2D content 3D and have it noticeable. Movie studios take months to do it for 2D movies and the end result is still really crappy.
yao847zi said:
Just one question:
Can i convert 2d videos to 3D, then transfer them onto EVO 3D for playback since it support 3D playback?
Any idea?
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I do not know how well it works, as I am waiting to get my 3D EVO before I try it out, but there is a video conversion program called Wondershare that claims to do just what you asked.
the most important think is can you playback 3d movies (avatar 3d)on evo 3d ? if yes how to do that, how to convert?
Well, I just find this 2D to 3D Video Converter which can convert 2D video to 3D format. So i wonder if the created 3d video files can be played on EVO 3D.
yao847zi said:
Well, I just find this 2D to 3D Video Converter which can convert 2D video to 3D format. So i wonder if the created 3d video files can be played on EVO 3D.
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somebody test!!
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You can't make 2D content 3D and have it noticeable. Movie studios take months to do it for 2D movies and the end result is still really crappy.
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What he said. I'm sure there is software out there to do it, but you're better off starting off with actual 3D content.
You're talking about taking a video shot from one perspective and somehow magically giving it depth? If there's any software to do it, I can't imagine it producing good results.
I know DvDFab does this but never tested but I will now
Well youporn has some 3D content and I doubt it was recorded using EVO 3Ds
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Well youporn has some 3D content and I doubt it was recorded using EVO 3Ds
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At least we got the million dollar question out of the way before the device even officially launched
LOL but IMHO my answer to the 2D->3D question would be simply no.
A good example of this would be the movie TRON 3D
The movie was filmed in 2D, but the 3D thing was all the craze so they added 3D in the CGI portions. With the glasses on the movies special effects came to life but the characters themselves remained dull and submersed within the screen.
You can't add depth to a flat plane. You can fake it but if the data is not there you can only imagine what would have been in it's place.
It's just like walking into a museum and looking at paintings. You're not gonna see 3D because the even though the you're using two eyes to view the image. There is no depth to interpret.
YES. you can make 2D-3D and look AWESOME
Actually you can.
I have been playing around with it for a long time now for use with the Vuzix Iwear 3D glasses.
It won't let me post the link so google
3DCOMBINE
and see for yourself
Richard Scullion, nice guy, in the UK, his software is AMAZING, it takes about 3 days to convert a full length movie from 2D-3D and IT IS NOTICEABLE.
His software allows you to select the amount of depth you wish, the more depth the longer and possible worse the video gets but this is just amazing software.
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Actually you can.
I have been playing around with it for a long time now for use with the Vuzix Iwear 3D glasses.
It won't let me post the link so google
3DCOMBINE
and see for yourself
Richard Scullion, nice guy, in the UK, his software is AMAZING, it takes about 3 days to convert a full length movie from 2D-3D and IT IS NOTICEABLE.
His software allows you to select the amount of depth you wish, the more depth the longer and possible worse the video gets but this is just amazing software.
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I'm totally testing it now...
Very 1st attempt with no tweaking at all.... it's eye crossing.. hmmm..
Graffiti Wall
how do you open this file?
Hi, so today has been dedicated for me to upload on youtube some videos made with fraps/3d vision on my computer, to try displaying homemade s3d clips on my Evo 3d.
So far it plays great but... with eyes reversed .... I need to flip 180 my phone to get the right image in the right eye.
Youtube 3d give or should give the ability the reverse images but it seems to be not functionnal.
Here are some links of my clips if you want to take a look.
Darksiders
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLKRB8D6bmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCyLZz3bjm4
Dragon Age 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYV3yUVwUNo
The witcher 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQUkY_XalQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4c6RohL4Gw
Proun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyFw5iFTGK4
And if you got an idea to get the movies display correctly without flipping my phone that would be great.
Looks good on the Evo3D turned to the right..Wonder why its all messed up when rotating to the left.
I'm going to try and capture Grand Turismo 5 on my ps3 with my black magic intensity pro in 3D..
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Darksiders looks incredible in 3D ... I could set up w a bowl of popcorn and just watch for hours.
Yep, 3d Vision is one of my best gaming experience on PC.
The 3d best games I played ( s3d experience) :
The witcher 2
Alice madness returns
Dragon age 1
Arcania (with community 3d patch)
Ryzom
Fallout newVegas
Proun
And more...
I'll do some clips of those, EVo 3D is a great tool to promote Stereoscopic 3D.
Awesome vids kalhohan. Makes me want to go and fork out for the nVidia 3D kit to go with my GTX 570.
Geforce 570 is what I have, and it runs smothly all the games with 3d vision in 1080p.
Just added The Witcher 2 link in first post.
Added Proun video.
I am basically writing this article to help all those who have spent time and time to buy the best 3d phone and are probably reading STEREOTYPE reviews repeating same things again and again and leaving you in a more complex state that you were before reading them.
I own an HTC Evo 3d and I also own a Optimus 3d and i also own an Acer 4738DG 3d laptop. I spent hours trying to find which of the two phones is best but i ended up buying both. Now this review to help those wanting to buy and trying to choose.
I will NOT go into details available at every other review website. I will only point out features that really matter and are not available anywhere for review.
PHONE SIZE AND FEEL
O3D is definitely not easy to hold. Its light but difficult to operate. The standby button and unlock button is at the top which makes it difficult to use, since this is the button you are likely to use a lot. The phone is lighter than EVO 3d which is an advantage.
Evo 3D is very bulky. and HEAVY. However due to shorter width than O3D it is easier to hold and grip and the unlock plus startup button is more accessible than O3D. My personal choise is Evo 3D for this round. Simply because it is easier to grip, although it is heavy.
3D Capabilities
Evo 3d is NOT a 3d phone. Surprised? Well thats the truth unfortunately. Evo 3d is a 3D camera which lets you take pictures and view them in 3d. NOT a 3d phone. I dont see any intention of HTC to make it a 3d phone as such. The only thing they have developed is a 3d camera ad a viewing screen. There is no 3d conversion as in you would have to manually covert2d pics and videos on your PC before you can view them on EVo which is useless.
O3d is a 3D phone. its a 3d camera, plus 3d interface icluding 3d channel youtube, plus 3d gallery, plus 3d menus, plus 3d application plus 3d games. Hell, it can even convert ON THE GO 2D movies and snapshots in 3D without any external software.
Go for O3d if you want a full 3d phone.
3D Camera Quality
Evo 3D captures stil photographs in 3d format at max 2MP. Video is at 720p. The camera is pretty basic with regular Htc options and only one option of 3d width adjustment. The camera in 3d mode has flash. Horizontal viewing is best. Vertical although supported is hardly noticeable in 3D. 3d Depth is not as cool as O3d but the pictures come up nice and bright.
O3D captures stil photographs in 3d format at max 3MP. and video at 720p. There is no flash for 3D stills or movie which is a HUUUGEEE drawback. The 3d camera is very smart and allows many 3d options like side by side, vertical cuts and other depth adjustments. The depth of 3d pics is better than Evo3d. but the picture quality itself is not that great.
If you operate in a bright environment go for O3d. If not go for HTC cuz flash is a huge advantage. The low resolution of HTC is compensated by the fact that it has flash.
Pre Bundled 3D software
HTC Evo3D = None
O3D = 4 games in 3d, Separate 3d gallery, 3d stuff accessible from LG 3d store which has movie clips and other apps plus games.
UPDATES
O3D is promised by LG to be updated to Gingerbread in October alongwith more 3d applications and 3d interface. LG has a 3d STORE from where you can download 3d videos and clips, free plus paid. Means you dont have to dowload, crop, resize and then somehow make them work on HTC evo3d.
HTC Evo3D from what i have learnt is not getting 3d updates from HTC. It is left to the developers for that.
ROOTING
Both can be rooted.
Volume Rocker
Volume rocker key in both devices is a pain to use. Its so much embedded kind of inside the phone.
Battery
O3D battery lasts for atleast 4 hours more than Evo 3d.
The other stuff is pretty basic. So if anyone is looking for a 3d phone this review may help him.
I have been an HTC fan throughout. But honestly LG has come a long way. I have the LG app files so if anyone interested in porting them to HTC evo 3d that would really be great.
If this helps, just say thanks.
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So... Did the LG win the "Updates" part based on promises on adding an update that's been out for months? Frankly it should have shipped with GB. Kindof ridiculous that it didn't...
Also, converting videos and pics on the go doesn't seem all that convenient if the camera can just take 3D videos and pics. Why take a 2D anything and convert? The conversion won't be even half as good as the real deal.
EVO 3D does videos and YouTube in 3D.
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The Evo 3D comes with the green hornet 3D at least with sprint, and spider man 3D demo.. how does that not count as 3D content? also as the user above said, we can watch 3D youtube videos as well...
Not sure I can take someone serious with a review that spells "because" with "cuz". Not being rude, just saying :/
And Zook!? What's up son?!
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My Evo 3D came with The Green Hornet 3D and Spiderman 3D. It also came with that 3D Games, but I wouldn't really call that one software though.
First of all thanks for the replies.
This guide is not basically to support one phone over the other. Point being whats good in 3D.
Lemme answer few of the posts so far,
Auto 2d to 3D conversion. Well this feature is kinda handy. With a 3D phone in your hand, you have the new camera to take 3d pics but what about your old collection. Do you want to boast off the 3d and enjoy the same pic with 3d content? Well then LG is your choice cuz (because) the phone can do that.
The result is not that bad actually. I remember when i first laid hands on my Acer 5738dg 3d laptop i converted a lot of 2d content. Never liked it. But this new screen concept of without the glasses does a pretty decent job.
I can say this cuz i HAVE TESTED it on O3D. I would suggest someone else to test and say if its that bad or ok.
The games that come with HTC EVO 3d are standalone games available in sprint version. I am talking about sim free versions of both phones. PLUS O3D has a 3d interface from which you can actually use and launch the game.
Lastly, LG promised an update in august and they delivered. I think the gingerbread update is coming in October, but what I am more interested in is the promised development that LG stated that this update will enable 2D games to be viewed in 3D as well. That is what i meant with when i said its a true 3d phone.
I will probably keep both phones till either HTC gets a port of LG 3d interface or LG gets an update for camera 3d flash. After that I will sell one of these.
Meanwhile, if anyone wants a hands on comparison of any feature please post here and i shall help to the best of my knowledge.
BTW someone mentioned youtube? Well when i meant youtube built in O3D i mean a real 3D youtube app. Maybe i need to post a video to let you guys have a look. Youtube in 3d is accessible by adding ",yt3d" to any search. But thats not what i meant.
Any questions are welcome.
youngsinema said:
my evo 3d came with the green hornet 3d and spiderman 3d. It also came with that 3d games, but i wouldn't really call that one software though.
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exactly what i meant.
I have all apks from LG plus the .dm video files.
Someone will need to work to port.
This article blows....
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
Worst review ever.
Lets wait until O3D get ripped, and all that software, app, and other goodies will be in my rooted HTC (better than LG, and prettier than O3D) Evo 3D as well
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this article blows....
My "du4l c0r3 sh00t3r" shot you down in 3d! -security off-
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+1........
Bababooey!
yahya.hamid said:
exactly what i meant.
I have all apks from LG plus the .dm video files.
Someone will need to work to port.
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?..... How is that exactly what you meant?
You said the evo3D has no bundled 3D content. He was stating "yes, it did" your on the UK evo3D. You must be.. I read that didn't get 3D content.
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In.
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making popcorn....
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Scoot over bro.... This is getting good.
BABABOOEY!
yahya.hamid said:
First of all thanks for the replies.
This guide is not basically to support one phone over the other. Point being whats good in 3D.
Lemme answer few of the posts so far,
Auto 2d to 3D conversion. Well this feature is kinda handy. With a 3D phone in your hand, you have the new camera to take 3d pics but what about your old collection. Do you want to boast off the 3d and enjoy the same pic with 3d content? Well then LG is your choice cuz (because) the phone can do that.
The result is not that bad actually. I remember when i first laid hands on my Acer 5738dg 3d laptop i converted a lot of 2d content. Never liked it. But this new screen concept of without the glasses does a pretty decent job.
I can say this cuz i HAVE TESTED it on O3D. I would suggest someone else to test and say if its that bad or ok.
The games that come with HTC EVO 3d are standalone games available in sprint version. I am talking about sim free versions of both phones. PLUS O3D has a 3d interface from which you can actually use and launch the game.
Lastly, LG promised an update in august and they delivered. I think the gingerbread update is coming in October, but what I am more interested in is the promised development that LG stated that this update will enable 2D games to be viewed in 3D as well. That is what i meant with when i said its a true 3d phone.
I will probably keep both phones till either HTC gets a port of LG 3d interface or LG gets an update for camera 3d flash. After that I will sell one of these.
Meanwhile, if anyone wants a hands on comparison of any feature please post here and i shall help to the best of my knowledge.
BTW someone mentioned youtube? Well when i meant youtube built in O3D i mean a real 3D youtube app. Maybe i need to post a video to let you guys have a look. Youtube in 3d is accessible by adding ",yt3d" to any search. But thats not what i meant.
Any questions are welcome.
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Converting arbitrary 2d images into 3d w/o the actual physical 3d data is stupid.
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?..... How is that exactly what you meant?
You said the evo3D has no bundled 3D content. He was stating "yes, it did" your on the UK evo3D. You must be.. I read that didn't get 3D content.
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You dont call 2 3d videos and 1 game 3d interface or software.
What i agreed with the author of that post was that its not 3d software.
The 3d videos are bundled by sprint not HTC.
In O3D, LG has worked to make it a 3d phone.
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Converting arbitrary 2d images into 3d w/o the actual physical 3d data is stupid.
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Kind of right, but what about for example
Cyberlink powerd dvd 3d conversion, dvd FAB, stereoscopic viewer and tridef.
These are all 3d converters and players and pretty decent ones and trust me they are making a lot of money for these features cuz large public wants it.
Anyways, the 3d conversion on O3D is not bad actually, its good. Not excellent and not at all like actual. but good.
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Lets wait until O3D get ripped, and all that software, app, and other goodies will be in my rooted HTC (better than LG, and prettier than O3D) Evo 3D as well
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YUP. thats what we all want.
HTC rocks as far as this forum is concerned. Best support and best people ever.
I can post a dropbox link of all apps and vidos in .dm if any one wants to try.
yahya.hamid said:
You dont call 2 3d videos and 1 game 3d interface or software.
What i agreed with the author of that post was that its not 3d software.
The 3d videos are bundled by sprint not HTC.
In O3D, LG has worked to make it a 3d phone.
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Oh.. OK, didn't get that is what you where talking about.