Today I wished I had a ROM to flash that would turn my phone into a dumbphone. Something that strips almost all functionality in the hopes of extreme battery life with just telephone capabilities.
Something that only allowed for:
Phone
Text messaging
Voicemail
Contacts list
Does such a ROM exist? Would anyone else be interested in such a ROM?
Lol. Go get a dumbphone.
No really, the most stripped ROM is probably cyanogen with no gapps.
You have to renew remember. Your RAZR didn't have a dual core cpu, gpu(nerds don't shoot), proximity sensor, always on data connection, 4.7 inch touch screen, gyroscope, GPS, etc. If you turn off data and strictly use your phone for calls and text, you'll probably get 2 days out of a charge with your phone.
Unless you're a troll though, I'm not sure why you have a $550 phone when you want to turn it into a $10 phone?
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Not trolling and I wouldn't want to use that ROM as a daily by any means. I love my smartphone too much to lose all the functionality permanently. A bare bones, no frills, just phone option would be nice to have available though. However, I could see how I'd be in the minority in wanting the choice to switch back and forth.
Are you just basically wanting your phone to last a long time when you aren't going to be using it for long periods of time, like during work(no emails, notifications, etc)?
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Pretty much.
Extreme battery life at the cost of everything but the ability to use it as a phone with texting capabilities.
I think you would be surprised at how much battery you will save by turning off data. And all the primary functions will still work.
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It's very possible that the most efficient route is to just go to the toggles and just switch everything off to operate in dumb mode. It's not like dumb mode is needed all that often and if it were then a smartphone wouldn't be a good fit (as you pointed out earlier).
Exactly. Like I said before, I guarantee with no data connection, sitting in your pocket, making a couple calls, your phone will be at least 60% by the time your day is over.
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I had a customer recently that had such a thing on his phone (company supplied) it ran off of sd card
Had never seen it before nor could I find out where they got it
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louched1 said:
Today I wished I had a ROM to flash that would turn my phone into a dumbphone. Something that strips almost all functionality in the hopes of extreme battery life with just telephone capabilities.
Something that only allowed for:
Phone
Text messaging
Voicemail
Contacts list
Does such a ROM exist? Would anyone else be interested in such a ROM?
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You could install Clean ROM, which is the most stripped down sense ROM I've seen, and use titanium backup to go on an uninstall spree to get rid of everything you don't want. When you've got it the way you want it, take a nandroid and restore it whenever you wanna use it.
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premo15 said:
You could install Clean ROM, which is the most stripped down sense ROM I've seen, and use titanium backup to go on an uninstall spree to get rid of everything you don't want. When you've got it the way you want it, take a nandroid and restore it whenever you wanna use it.
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This is a really good suggestion. And you could change all your settings to bare-bones before you make the nandroid so you don't need to deal with individually them later on; bluetooth, background data and GPS off, screen on the lowest brightness, screen timeout at the minimum, etc. You'll get plenty of battery life like that.
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Hello, I wanted to find out if it is possible to load an older version of android on my phone to see If it will run faster or drain the battery even less.
I might go on a camping trip in the mountains and I want to live simpler, so an old version might work better since I won't have a charger or a need for extra bonuses in android froyo.
Thanks.
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I you can port and resize a donut rom then yes
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Hello, I wanted to find out if it is possible to load an older version of android on my phone to see If it will run faster or drain the battery even less.
I might go on a camping trip in the mountains and I want to live simpler, so an old version might work better since I won't have a charger or a need for extra bonuses in android froyo.
Thanks.
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You don't have to bring a charger if you want to live simpler don't bring your phone at all or keep it off the whole time to save battery. Or you could bring a car charger . You could also put in the development section [req] android 1.6 port?
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Do not post a request for it in the development section. Not to sound mean, but no one would post a rom that almost no one would use. If you need to save battery just turn off Data Network Mode. You'll still have calls and texts, but none of the battery wasting features.
I would be interested in something similar to this but I would not want android 1.6, I would want something even simpler yet.
I wonder how hard it would be to make a rom that would just be a phone. I am imagining something like you hit the unlock button and a screen similar to the dialer app would pop up. You would have access to your contacts and be able to place and receive calls but nothing else.
I would think this would give you super battery but it would only be worth it if you could dual boot to another rom so you could still take advantage of the camera or gps if it is absolutely necessary.
Otherwise it would be a lot simpler and easier to just buy a cheap tmobile pay as you go phone.
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Do not post a request for it in the development section. Not to sound mean, but no one would post a rom that almost no one would use. If you need to save battery just turn off Data Network Mode. You'll still have calls and texts, but none of the battery wasting features.
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yeah i suggest the same, because i'm sure no one is THAT helpful to make a rom for just 1 person, and maybe a few others that MIGHT use it, but will eventually go back to the newer roms...
Go to airplane mode when your not using your phone ( you don't get any phone calls anything )
or
If you do want texts and phone calls like vinny said, turn off data network.
P.S. i'm sure there are abilities in 1.6 that drain battery just as we have them too.
Yup shut off Network go into the phone and set for edge only, shut off GPS and USE a 2.2 rom with KA6 modem or KB1 the battery will last way longer than android 1.6 it is not that good better to stay with the Froyo rom OR get a carrier pigeon................
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Hello, I wanted to find out if it is possible to load an older version of android on my phone to see If it will run faster or drain the battery even less.
I might go on a camping trip in the mountains and I want to live simpler, so an old version might work better since I won't have a charger or a need for extra bonuses in android froyo.
Thanks.
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Are you kidding? Go buy a prepaid clamshell from Boost Mobile or something.
Buy a solar charger for the phone.
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CrazyCharlie said:
Are you kidding? Go buy a prepaid clamshell from Boost Mobile or something.
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+1 the obvious answer
Or from T-Mobile....
I have a backup flip-phone - swap SIM, good to go for hours.
-bZj
So my friend has a Thunderbolt and she complains about it freezing up when doing text messaging. She has to hit the power button and then it will come back to life. Sometimes she even has to wait a few minutes for it to come back. She has tried to restart it and even takes the battery out. She has also even having troubles with the GPS not working or taking forever to lock. Everytrail will mess up and not get her entire run, etc. I even noticed that my TouchPro2 running android will go from google maps to google navigation faster than her Tbolt. Is this poor performance common for users with the stock rom and the update?
I have no problem messing around with phones and putting custom roms, etc, etc on my phone. I would help her root her phone if its worth rooting. She was concerned it would void warranty, but I saw the thread to restore to stock. Is there anyway for them to tell you were rooted if she has a warranty issue and I return it to stock? She is obviously wanting something that will work better and faster than stock. What would be the best setup for a close to stock look and feel, but more stable and easy to use? Does a rom like that even exist? Help me out here fella's as I told her to get the Tbolt instead of another crackberry and now she is less than happy because her Tbolt sucks stock. Thanks
If i was her i would call and get a replacement and see if that helps b4 messing with the phone. A phone should work properly out of the box.
Wont they just send her a replacement that is a refurb?
They will definitely give her a refurbished no matter how much you complain.
For the gps, try download an app called GPS Status and Toolbox. It's free from the market. Turn GPS on, open up the app, and hit the menu button. Then choose Tools, and choose Manage A-GPS State. Choose reset and see if that helps the GPS lock on faster.
As for the freezing, I'm not sure why its doing that. It could be a rouge app that's hogging the CPU. Tell her to go through and uninstall any apps she doesn't use. Worst case scenario, back up everything she needs, and factory reset the phone. Is a pain, by it might be worth a try.
Rooting does void the warranty. You can return back to stock and they would never know. However, because of this, many people are bricking their phones because they don't know what they are doing and then claim warranty on them. Because of this, the OEMs are starting to lock down the bootloaders to prevent this, and carriers and pressuring them to do so as well.
I, personally, think the tbolt runs faster and has the best battery life stock than with any Rom kernel combo I have tried.
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I'd rather have a functional refurb than a broken new phone. That's just me.
I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
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I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
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The battery percentage isn't always accurate. Try using green power. It's a free app in the market. It an shut your data off when you shut the screen of, and turn it on when you turn the screen back on. You can also set it to turn the data on and let the phone sync. I have none set to turn the data on for 1 minute every two hours to let it sync.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
ThrottleAbuse said:
I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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Plain Jane is a great ROM. its pretty much stock only deodexed and rooted.
I'm currently running das BAMF 2.0 and its very stable and runs great.
As far as sms backup, I never back up any of my text when I flash new ROMs so I couldn't help you there.
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ThrottleAbuse said:
I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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SMS backup works fine. I don't like the HTC messaging app, mine freezes up too. Mostly when you have a ton of messages in a particular thread. Tell her to try handcent. That cleared up my messaging woes. If that doesn't do it I would tell her to go back to the store and have them replace the phone. Refurb or not it's better to have a phone that works. As far as gps that's a well known problem with this phone. I've resigned myself to waiting 90 seconds to get a fix which in reality isn't that bad. The garmin in my car takes at least that long.
Didnt realize there was a rom called plain jane. Sorry but what is deodexed?
I know she doesnt delete her texts so long threads may be an issue. I will have her look at handcent.
The length to lock isnt the biggest issue its the freezing and her missing stuff on everytrail.
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I know battery life issues have been talked to death but...Here's a new perspective:
so I have been doing some experimenting with my amaze in terms of battery life and asking my friend who works at T-mobile regarding his SGS2...He says his battery life seems to be pretty crappy too, marginally better than the amaze....so, I hard reset my phone and I did not sign into google, left my phone on airplain mode, basically I did not set up anything...I turned off wifi, and data everything was truned off...I went for 10 hours with only 2 percent battery drainage...then I signed into google....and in a matter of 10 minutes I went from 98 percent to 92... Watever is eating the battery up is not the phones hardware fault or the screens fault... I turned off background data sync and it seemed to make little difference...It seems the google programs or any program that needs internet connect regardless of syncing or not will have significant effect on your battery life...between 4g and wifi I saw little difference in battery life drainage...my phone signal is completely green so I cannot blame the signal... I cannot possibly kill gmail, market, maps etc...these are programs I use constantly...lets hope with the ICS update some of these sofware issues will resolve...
google needs to start managing applications better and not leave a bunch of applications running in the forground and background...
I've heard different theories regarding task killers...some say it actually worsens battery life since programs keep wanting to restart and some say it saves battery life...can anyone elaborate on this? I have juice defender ultimate, it seems to make minute difference in battery life as well.
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Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
I've tried juice defender, um... I would suggest you read about instructions on flashing a custom ROM I'm on quiksense and when 2.0 comes out I heard xboarder's got some really nice improvements with the 1.4.1 version I almost doubled my battery life. My phone used to go down to 50~60 idle over night, now it's about 90~ idle over night.
Teo032 said:
Display is the biggest factor obviously and then its data transfer or anything that has to do with transmitting signal.
like every other phone the 100% lasts for a long time then after it drops it drops quickly. So your analyses is flawed since it already dropped from 100% and then you switched data on. There are apps that are constantly sending data and the sense UI kills the battery a lot too. Thats why AOSP roms are better for battery life.
Juicedefender helps
setcpu helps
managing your apps helps
changing your background to black helps
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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Juicedefender did help but then I was missing all my google talk messages, google voice messages, google voice voicemails and a bunch of stuff...ever going through the settings and setting it up to recheck background data every 5 minutes did not work with J/D...so I stopped using it...I need my data to come through...whats the point of having a phone if you can't get notification and use the features meant to.... I used to be a strickly no bloatware simplistic out of the box google experience guy...thus my nexus one...I LOVED IT...then dropped it and not worth fixing. nexus S was dissapointing, so is the galaxy nexus...I hate all the bloatware, and all the customizations t-mobile makes to the phone...like t-mobile inscription on the phone, t-mobile startup screen...etc...yes I know I could root and change all that stuff...honestly I just don't feel like going through all that crap!!! and also void my warranty...I don't undestand howcome the iphone is never branded!!!???/ wtf....I buy a phone and it's mine why does it have to come with a logo of the company....IT'S MY PHONE. THEY SHOULD INSCRIBE MY NAME ON IT. as for the bloatware I figured out how to temproot and freeze programs... I don't think you can change the startup screen to the original HTC one with temp root...damn T-mobile...you used to be so much better...
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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use JD ultimate and set the apps to work with screen off.
you can get a telus or wind model without the tmobile branding
i think you can change the bootanimation with temp root because it's just a file? I'm not exactly sure about that one though.
apple sells their iphone to ATT
as htc sells their phone tmobile
tmobile probably request a branding on it with a higher cost.
att probably reject the higher cost because they're already losing money when buying the iphone from apple (i think i remember i read it awhile ago) and make money off data plans.
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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I did use JD ultimate with those apps enable, NO GO, MAYBE I SHOULD RESTART AND GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY...its only when that program requests it that it can initiate the data line, otherwise if someone sends you a text i will not get it since both wifi and data line are cut off permenantly during screen off that is how it saves battery....enabling programs are good for things such as pandora etc...once they end a playlist or something it automatically turns off....this is what I understood from the explaination...i temp rooted and removed some bloatware...hopefully I can change the startup screen as well, perhaps through adb push
P.S. where do I download the original HTC boot animation and sound and what folder is it in to push into? thanks
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
You may want to try an AOSP based rom, (if you rooted)
I was getting 18 hours of use with 36% left, Medium usage (ie browsing, texting)
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for JD you want to click on the app thing twice so it goes to enable/screen off not just enabled. But yeah i noticed that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
not sure where the bootanimation and sounds is it at, i never played with it. You should check out the themes section, you can download the zip and browse through where it goes.... other than that there might be other threads with the instructions on where it's at.
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ya i clicked twice enable/screen off...still no go for those particular programs i tested and tested it....oh well..my batterly life is not bad at all...besides I have a car kit which charges it in the car. once i started using the thing tho, battery drains fast...its no mystery its got a big screen bigger than my old N1 which used to be amoled and this is lcd...also this uses 4g which consumes significantly greater battery...faster processor etc....its not a mystery!!! they need to come up with a new battery technology soon!!!!
My phone started dieing overnight and I was really confused because I could've sworn I had a lot of like left when I went to bed. So I did a test tonight...
Charged to 100% at 10:30pm
All background application closed, ram cleared
Wifi and GPS off
Results: after 8.5 hours of doing nothing, I lost over 75% battery.
Screenshots are below...WTF is happening with my phone?
Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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Like this?
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Looks like something is keeping it from deep sleep. Download cpuspy and see if that is the case. When you click on phone stand by what does it say?
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It just says Time on 8h XXm XXs
Looks like Google talk is keeping it awake. Never used GT before so not sure if that is normal. I am having similar (but not as drastic) with ms exchange keeping mine in awake state. I am using ics alpha 2 Rom and did not have this issue on stock GB. What Rom are you using?
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
I use the ICS -1 Click Odin leak (In progress of getting a better ICS loaded) but I have noticed that I run into a lot of Battery life problems when I am sleeping... If I leave my phone unplugged overnight it always dies, I have to charge it. It's weird... Because I can be on it all day with amazing Battery life, then it just dies over night with a full charge of not even being in use...
I probably need to run some analytics to see what is killing it in the first place... I always force close my apps though...
This happens on any OS, GB, or ICS...
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I noticed the Google Talk but I never use it, and it's installed on my phone, but I can find a way to uninstall it anywhere. It also doesn't give me an option to log out either.
Oh and I'm running the ICS alpha 2 ROM. I don't recall having this problem with GB.
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I had the same problem which is why I went back to GB. Remember this is an ATT leak of an unfinished ROM. they have all sorts of unfinished code and debugging running that it's bound to cause these issues.
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It also looks like your cell signal isn't all that great so it's constantly pinging. Not sure about that though. Do you need data all the time? I use 2x battery so it severs data. Saves a **** ton of battery life.
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BINGO!!! Just checked some screen capture from battery stats from GB and my cell strength was no ways near as bad as it is on ICS. Need to see if any fixes are out there. It almost all tan for signal strength on ICS vs all green in GB. Same locales for both samples.
by the way, i was getting between 1 day to 1.5 days on rooted GB oc'd to 1.84 with 4 hours screen time. Did not ever see exchange using any noticeable % of battery. Now getting 15 hours with 2 hours screen time and exchange using 6% of the battery. Not going back yet because the pro's out weigh the con's.
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Well that would suck if the ICS radio is a step backwards over the GB radio....
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Yep, it seems like the partial wakelocks are getting you.
It will go into deep sleep but then go up to 384 off and on.
Gtalk looks like the biggest culprit.
Like I said if data is off it shouldn't have wakelocks.
Another test you could do tonight is the exact same but put it in airplane mode.
It shouldn't budge much.....
I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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I managed to find a way to log out of google talk, so I'll test it under the same conditions tonight to see if that changes anything.
Airplane mode overnight is not an option for me since I need cell service in case of emergency calls. Generally, I do notice slightly worse reception of the previous GB ROM, so the modem might be questionable.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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Understood about the calls. You can get calls and texts without data though. That's why I was recommending 2x battery which is like juice defender I think. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.aDataOnOff&hl=en
I realized I really don't need data unless I 'want' data. I do push my emails but they won't push until I turn on data. Saves a lot of battery, especially when on LTE.....
It works well for me because you can set a delay for the data. So you can turn on your screen (not unlock) and see if you got any new texts. If not, put it back in my pocket. All without data coming on. I do these quick checks all time...
Then there is a delay time you can set after you unlock.
I have mine set to 3 min. If I do get a text, I will unlock, read it and maybe respond quickly, then put it back in my pocket. As long as its not mms that's all done without data.
If I need to get data prior to the 3min there is a notification to connect the data.
I'm coming from the thunderbolt and we had to REALLY find all the tricks to save battery life. As it given to us by HTC and Verizon it was unacceptable.
At any rate, sorry for the wind there. If you're wondering, I have no association with 2X battery. I just like to spread the word when I find an app that is useful and has helped me out.
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I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
jjc5891 said:
I used to use juice defender but a couple things were a deal breaker for me:
1) First was that it rendered Cerberus almost completely useless. I could not get the phone to connect using the web interface at cerberusapp.com since the phone had no data with the screen off. Sure I could have used the SMS method of activation, but I don't have another phone to text from and it just isn't as flexible as the website.
2) Every time I unlocked the phone, I had to wait 10+ seconds for data to fully reconnect before I can start using stuff. When I unlock the phone, it's usually to check something very quick, and if I'm stuck waiting, I'd rather suffer the battery loss than to wait a bunch of times.
I suspect every battery saver app has this issue, and they can probably be configured to work to my needs, but I just don't have the time and patience to be tinkering with stuff like that.
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JD Ultimate has an option that allows foreground apps to force enable/disable data, which is an easy thing to set. Also, my experience with JD is that data reconnects as soon as I unlock the phone and before I can launch an app. Battery saver apps are definitely frustrating, but I find that the correct settings fix 95% of the annoyances.
I hear ya on the time thing. Just thought I'd over up that tidbit. I don't seem to have much of a delay. 2x does allow for whitelisting apps you want to run like Pandora.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Google Talk is like any other VoiP service, it will have a heartbeat that needs to talk back to the mothership every so many seconds.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Yup, that's exactly why I don't want it. If I rarely/never use the app, I don't want it constantly connected wasting my battery and data. I wish there was an easy way to turn that off. I've been reading on Google and there were posts from 1-2 years ago that said signing out of gtalk doesn't help with the wakelock, so we shall see tonight when I test it again.
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Actually, there is (sort of). Purchase an app called Autostarts on the market. Open it, wait for it to finish loading, hit the menu button, then tap the 'group by application' option.
Then, scroll thru the list to Google Talk and tap it. This will expand a bunch of different conditions that Google Talk automatically starts under. Disabling every condition will cause the app to never automatically start in the background (but the app will still launch if you manually launch it). Since I dont currently have root, I cant see what the conditions are, but you might need to leave one or two enabled if you need to receive incoming calls.
Reboot your phone after making any changes.
I should also mention that if you manually launch the app, you need to remember to manually close the app if this is what you assume is causing the battery drain.
If nothing else, you can use Autostarts to help determine if Gtalk is what is causing the issue by just disabling everything for it and watching battery drain rate.
I also use another app called Battery Widget Pro by 3c which will tell you everything about the battery and what exactly is causing it to drain.
What I would do is disable everything unless it looks like its something for receiving calls (if you need to receive calls that is) and reboot the phone, then test it by using another phone to call your Google # and make sure it works.
The point is tho to disable everything you can. I personally use Autostarts to disable every user app that doesnt either have a widget or a scheduled process that needs to run in the background to perform its task. Helps a crap ton with battery life.
So looks like signing out of google talk did not help anything looking at more detail in the better battery stats it might be google maps that's causing all the wakeups
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(I hope the long time users here will bear with me while I restate something that is I think needs to be said. I see a lot of posts that either directly or indirectly reverence battery use. Here is what I do. )
I've had my amaze for a while and it has a real problem with battery use. I realized one day that I really only needed my data connection when checking, email or weather. So I now shut off the data confection unless I need it . My battery now goes all day on about 25%. I realize that some people need more frequent data, but if you are a light user, it might be worthwhile to keep data off.
I've considered buying an app that automatically turns the data on every hour our so, but haven't wanted to bother.
Note that playing games also burns through battery (due to the large screen and high processor use), but there is little to be done about that. I'm not a gamer, but when my son get ahold of my Amaze, I often bring out my spare batteries!
I'm on NRG with S-On.
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Check out juice defender. The paid version has tons of options on when to turn data on or off..like screen off turns data off, screen on turns data on...etc.
I just use a toggle widget. Most times I'm reading ebooks or PDFs, and don't need data anyway
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Green power premium.. Fantastic app
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ce3jay said:
Check out juice defender. The paid version has tons of options on when to turn data on or off..like screen off turns data off, screen on turns data on...etc.
I just use a toggle widget. Most times I'm reading ebooks or PDFs, and don't need data anyway
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Actually I own it. Maybe I'll give it another try.
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if you don't mind tinkering and know some programming, Tasker is pretty good too (you can create scripts that toggle off data/syncing based on your own criteria)
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if you don't mind tinkering and know some programming, Tasker is pretty good too (you can create scripts that toggle off data/syncing based on your own criteria)
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Yeah, I thought about Tasker. I already own JuiceDefender, and I'm too cheap to spring for Tasker! But I may think about it, depending on how well JD works.
Back when I had my galaxy s 4g, all my old devs built this feature right into their roms. All of their custom roms on xda since gingerbread came out in fact. They would automatically shut off the phone's data completely when you turned your screen off for more than 10 seconds. And then, automatically turned it back on when you unlocked your phone. It doubled battery life easy with regular use. Even more because it was built in and didn't waste processing power running an app to do it instead.
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Back when I had my galaxy s 4g, all my old devs built this feature right into their roms. All of their custom roms on xda since gingerbread came out in fact. They would automatically shut off the phone's data completely when you turned your screen off for more than 10 seconds. And then, automatically turned it back on when you unlocked your phone. It doubled battery life easy with regular use. Even more because it was built in and didn't waste processing power running an app to do it instead.
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I'm on my first day with JuiceDefender. The nice thing about JD is that it can be set to turn on the data periodically (I use once per hour). That way all the sync can occur while the phone is still off. So my weather and facebook stay up to date, but the data is mostly off.
System app built into Rom or separate app, still uses the same resources. It's not going to use less memory or processor because it's in the Rom. Just comon sence
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*Common Sense; FTFY. And you're right. Now that I think about, I believe it was kernel based. Which is why it was across roms.