CM10 - CNA comparo - Motorola Photon 4G

Which is better/most complete? I am currently running CM10 (latest build) and before that was running CNA (couple nightlies ago). I have noticed that in CM10 that camcorder was "almost working", which is the first JB rom I've seen that on, but since CNA is built off of the latest CM10, it would lead one to think that everything working or working properly in CM10 will be working at least equally well in CNA, with the possibility of other issues resolved (since it's almost always "newer"). This make sense?
What’s the main difference’s in
CM10
CNA
Paranoid
AOKP
MIUI
Xenon
Also, I had a quick question about "webtop". I'm under the impression that the laptop docks do not function/function correctly without webtop, and that webtop is only available on stock roms. Are these two points true? Is there no way to get a properly working lapdock using CM10 or CNA?
Thanks

putergod said:
Which is better/most complete? I am currently running CM10 (latest build) and before that was running CNA (couple nightlies ago). I have noticed that in CM10 that camcorder was "almost working", which is the first JB rom I've seen that on, but since CNA is built off of the latest CM10, it would lead one to think that everything working or working properly in CM10 will be working at least equally well in CNA, with the possibility of other issues resolved (since it's almost always "newer"). This make sense?
What’s the main difference’s in
CM10
CNA
Paranoid
AOKP
MIUI
Xenon
Also, I had a quick question about "webtop". I'm under the impression that the laptop docks do not function/function correctly without webtop, and that webtop is only available on stock roms. Are these two points true? Is there no way to get a properly working lapdock using CM10 or CNA?
Thanks
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From my observation CM10 is the basic jb builds with the least amount of options and aokp , cna are almost the same with a few different features. Cna has showed to have the best battery life with aokp being the most stable from what I've heard they all seem stable as hell to me. Paranoid android is basically some options along with the ability to go into tablet mode, phone tablet mode, etc. Miui is just an iphonish type of os and xenon has bits and pieces from every ROM. Idk the answer to the web top question
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[Q] ICS Roms

Where can I get more info on the ICS Roms?
I can't tell the difference between any of them since all the threads are basically named the same.
I'm looking for a plain as possible, newest build ICS.
emptyshell said:
Where can I get more info on the ICS Roms?
I can't tell the difference between any of them since all the threads are basically named the same.
I'm looking for a plain as possible, newest build ICS.
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Well, really you only have a few options.
First of all, you have the KANGs. These are ROMs compiled from CM9's source code. These are basically the same as CM9 nightlies, but they appeared much sooner. The only other option besides KANGs and nightlies is AOKP, which is ICS with some extra modifications. Nightlies and KANGs also have the devices name in the thread (wifi only or 3g).
Since you said you just want a plain and newest possible build, you should choose either the nightlies or the KANGs, whichever is newest. And of course, you should flash the one for your device .
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Well, really you only have a few options.
First of all, you have the KANGs. These are ROMs compiled from CM9's source code. These are basically the same as CM9 nightlies, but they appeared much sooner. The only other option besides KANGs and nightlies is AOKP, which is ICS with some extra modifications. Nightlies and KANGs also have the devices name in the thread (wifi only or 3g).
Since you said you just want a plain and newest possible build, you should choose either the nightlies or the KANGs, whichever is newest. And of course, you should flash the one for your device .
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AOKP is a kang based on CM9
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Exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks guys.
Hi guys...
I've just got my Galaxy Tab 10.1 P7500 3G...
So I'm newbie to Samsung or Tablets but I have Motorola Defy and I'm quite into changing ROMs and stuff...
Can anyone here suggest me some good, stable, great battery life, awesome speed, no bugs ROM?
Are those ICS versions with working camera? As I've seen some does have camera bug.
Is it worht trying to install ICS or should I find some good solid Honeycomb instead? (recommend any?)
Tnx...
If you want a fast stable ROM I would suggest Task 14.
I've been running CM9 ICS from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425631 for the past couple days though and I'm loving it. Camera won't work in any ICS ROM. I don't use the camera though so that doesn't bother me. This ICS ROM is the best ROM I've ever used for connecting to our Cisco VPN concentrator at work.
I've had a couple app freezes and 1 random reboot but other than that I haven't seen any issues.

What are the differences between CM7 and CM9?

So I bought a SG2 a couple days ago (moving from Iphone 3gS). I'm kinda disappointed in battery life and my friend recommended installing a custom rom. I have CM9 on my Touchpad so I figured I'd give it a go on my phone too. As it is, I like the look/feel of the stock device (maybe I just don't know better) so I am thinking that using something more stable like CM7 would be more beneficial. Is there any major differences?
Cm9 is based of ICS and Cm7 of gingerbread.
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Yes, I knew that, but is it worth using a more unstable build vs CM7?
mojoe_24 said:
Yes, I knew that, but is it worth using a more unstable build vs CM7?
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Cm9 isn't unstable. I'm perfectly fine on it.
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CM9 is real stable for nightly status
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In my opinion, CM9 is more stable than CM7 ever was on I9100/I777.
There's a variety of reasons for this, it's mainly that 6 months later, everyone involved knows MUCH more about the device than they did when ICS was first released and most of the CM maintainers either took breaks or started working CM9.
This especially holds true for I777 - When atinm took a break and codeworkx started working ICS, we didn't know a fraction of what the REAL differences between I9100 and I777 were that we do now. As a result the I9100/I777 device trees are MUCH closer together now than they were for CM7.
Just guessing, but I think CM9 will end up being better overall. Each version of Android brings unique challenges for the devs. For instance, CM7 on our device suffers from a Market bug that will cause periodic freezes. I don't think anyone is reporting that with CM9.
On my old phone, under CM6, they had a hell of a time getting the OS to read the voicemail number from the SIM card. When Gingerbread came out, it was never a problem from the beginning.
If battery life is your main concern, I recommend Entropy512's Daily Driver kernel. (Samsung-based ROMs only). He's working on one for ICS but his GB kernel has been used by thousands across what I guess to be dozens of ROMs.
EDIT: ^^The man himself^^
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CM9 is real stable for nightly status
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Never had a single problem with it so far. CM7 would only last 30 mins on my phone before I had to uninstall it due to stuff not working or crashing.
No clue what matters to you, but here are some specific differences as of April 9:
CM9 does not have the headphone volume bug that CM7 did, BUT...
...on CM9 the correct volume does not get restored after playback is interrupted by a notification
CM9 does not support notification LEDs, BUT...
...on CM7 Notification LEDs causes a wakelock (battery drain)
CM9 does not have as many extended features as CM7 (yet)
CM9 GPS is (at least anecdotally) not as good as CM7 (for now)
CM9 overclocking/undervolting support is brand new
Edit: CM9 does not have Theming (yet)
CM9 does not support USB Mass Storage, need to use MTP (inconvenient on Linux)
CM9 will not have Phone Goggles
The biggest factors (for me):
CM9 is ICS
CM9 has developers' attention
halfsoul said:
No clue what matters to you, but here are some specific differences as of April 9:
CM9 does not have the headphone volume bug that CM7 did, BUT...
...on CM9 the correct volume does not get restored after playback is interrupted by a notification
CM9 does not support notification LEDs, BUT...
...on CM7 Notification LEDs causes a wakelock (battery drain)
CM9 does not have as many extended features as CM7 (yet)
CM9 GPS is (at least anecdotally) not as good as CM7 (for now)
CM9 overclocking/undervolting support is brand new
Edit: CM9 does not have Theming (yet)
CM9 does not support USB Mass Storage, need to use MTP (inconvenient on Linux)
CM9 will not have Phone Goggles
The biggest factors (for me):
CM9 is ICS
CM9 has developers' attention
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Brilliant explanation! Thanks! Should be linked to by the CM9 thread!
halfsoul said:
No clue what matters to you, but here are some specific differences as of April 9:
CM9 does not have the headphone volume bug that CM7 did, BUT...
...on CM9 the correct volume does not get restored after playback is interrupted by a notification
CM9 does not support notification LEDs, BUT...
...on CM7 Notification LEDs causes a wakelock (battery drain)
CM9 does not have as many extended features as CM7 (yet)
CM9 GPS is (at least anecdotally) not as good as CM7 (for now)
CM9 overclocking/undervolting support is brand new
Edit: CM9 does not have Theming (yet)
CM9 does not support USB Mass Storage, need to use MTP (inconvenient on Linux)
CM9 will not have Phone Goggles
The biggest factors (for me):
CM9 is ICS
CM9 has developers' attention
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There is an app for USB Mass Storage. I prefer using it over MTP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24084600&postcount=113
CM9 is based on Android 4.0 ICS and is currently in the Alpha/Nightlies status.
CM7 is based on Android 2.3 Gingerbread and is currently the Stable branch of CynaogenMod
I just figured CM7 would have been more stable. Maybe I'll look into CM9 then. I plan to root my phone today. Part of the reason I wanted CM7/9 was to get rid of bloatware, but it seems a root can do it too.
mojoe_24 said:
I just figured CM7 would have been more stable. Maybe I'll look into CM9 then. I plan to root my phone today. Part of the reason I wanted CM7/9 was to get rid of bloatware, but it seems a root can do it too.
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You know there are other options than CM, right? If you aren't one of the ridiculous TouchWiz haters (doesn't seem that way since you mentioned you like the default look of the phone) then go download and install SHOstock2 from the development forum. It's fast, stable, and just flat-out works. Easily the best of the ICS ROMs, IMO. When CM9 gets to a stable release state I'll give it a try, but the AOSP ROMs (mainly CM9 and AOKP) just aren't quite ready for prime time IMO if you look at the issues/bugs that still exist in them. Some people enjoy flashing new builds all the time and taking part in the dev process...personally I just want something that works. That's not to say that SHOstock2 is a finished ROM yet, but it's way farther along than the others. Give it a try - as someone who only recently made the leap from stock, I couldn't imagine ever going back.
hbar said:
You know there are other options than CM, right? If you aren't one of the ridiculous TouchWiz haters (doesn't seem that way since you mentioned you like the default look of the phone) then go download and install SHOstock2 from the development forum. It's fast, stable, and just flat-out works. Easily the best of the ICS ROMs, IMO. When CM9 gets to a stable release state I'll give it a try, but the AOSP ROMs (mainly CM9 and AOKP) just aren't quite ready for prime time IMO if you look at the issues/bugs that still exist in them. Some people enjoy flashing new builds all the time and taking part in the dev process...personally I just want something that works. That's not to say that SHOstock2 is a finished ROM yet, but it's way farther along than the others. Give it a try - as someone who only recently made the leap from stock, I couldn't imagine ever going back.
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Ditto... I'm running ShoStock2 for the better part of two weeks and can't deny that I'm in love. Previously to that I ran UnNamed and ShoStock for GB and loved both. The best thing to do is give them a try to see what you like. Our opinion may be biased based so I suggest you give the ROM's a try so you know what you like.
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I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
mojoe_24 said:
I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
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It's built into the framework. It's not just a launcher and theme.
AOKP is pretty damn stable. The only bug is the mentioned CM9 issue with notifications lowering music volume. Also GPS is slow to lock sometimes for me. Other than that it's a great ROM. I gave ShoStock a try but just prefer the look of AOKP
mojoe_24 said:
I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
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touchwiz is so much more than a launcher
its the entire UI, the phone dialer, the contacts, the lockscreen, the SMS app, nearly everything you see on your phone is a Touchwiz UI. it is an overlay over the real android lurking below.
mojoe_24 said:
I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
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TouchWiz is a launcher and is Standard for Samsung GSII. It's all about taste if you ask me. I personally enjoy using ToichWiz or Apex launher over anything else. It's really up to you to determine what you like and how you want it to function.
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[Q] What's the difference between one JB ROM and the next?

Okay, since Jelly Bean came to the Photon (and Electrify!), we've had nearly half a dozen ROMs pop up. Let's review, shall we?
1. Unofficial CyanogenMod 10 0.1.1 by jokersax
2. Paranoid Android 1.9.5 by Th3Bill
3. XenonHD 8.11 by Th3Bill
4. CNA (Codename: Android) 3.10 by Th3Bill
5. AOKP Build 8 by Th3Bill
...and I coulda sworn there was a second CM10 build floating around for a while.
So we have 5 of them.
Guys, what's the difference? They all have the sweet Android 4.x UI. They all have Google Now. They all have per-app notification muting. And they all have the expanded notifications, like hanging up a call or responding to a missed call with a call back or a text message.
I know Paranoid Android has the hybrid tablet stuff. That's awesome.
When I asked what AOKP did, I was told it had swagger, whatever that means. Oh, and a pink unicorn. If I were a brony, that would be my first and only choice.
But seriously, what are the differences? If you use one over the other, why?
I use Joker's CM10 right now, because presently all the other ROMs appear to be based on it.
Each ROM has their own little tweaks/added settings/perks. Like MIUI has a battery bar that can go across the top of the screen in a thin line all the way across to easily see your battery level. And most(if not all) JB and ICS based ROMS are based upon Jokers work so they all have the same base(if something doesnt work in Jokers CM9/10 it most likely is broke in all variants). Different theming, system apps, just the overall feel are found between all different ROMs. There really is no way to just pick one and say this is the best or anything, its all based upon your personal preferences. My advice would be to sit down when your bored with a while to kill and make backups and go to town flashing them all and using them for a while and finding out which one works for you the best. I personally like CM9/10 the most, but the Paranoid is pretty sweet and will most likely be my new daily ROM once MMS is up and running without GoSms.
He explained it pretty much on point and MMS is now working 100% ... from my experience JB CNA has the best battery life
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Dark Reality said:
Okay, since Jelly Bean came to the Photon (and Electrify!), we've had nearly half a dozen ROMs pop up. Let's review, shall we?
1. Unofficial CyanogenMod 10 0.1.1 by jokersax
2. Paranoid Android 1.9.5 by Th3Bill
3. XenonHD 8.11 by Th3Bill
4. CNA (Codename: Android) 3.10 by Th3Bill
5. AOKP Build 8 by Th3Bill
...and I coulda sworn there was a second CM10 build floating around for a while.
So we have 5 of them.
Guys, what's the difference? They all have the sweet Android 4.x UI. They all have Google Now. They all have per-app notification muting. And they all have the expanded notifications, like hanging up a call or responding to a missed call with a call back or a text message.
I know Paranoid Android has the hybrid tablet stuff. That's awesome.
When I asked what AOKP did, I was told it had swagger, whatever that means. Oh, and a pink unicorn. If I were a brony, that would be my first and only choice.
But seriously, what are the differences? If you use one over the other, why?
I use Joker's CM10 right now, because presently all the other ROMs appear to be based on it.
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When did we get jb?
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When did we get jb?
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We haven't gotten Jelly Bean officially. We haven't even gotten ICS officially.
What we DO have is CyanogenMod 10! Which is based off Jelly Bean. That was released for us by jokersax11 shortly after Cyanogen released preview builds of CM10.
The best part is, surprisingly, CM10 is more stable than CM9 (which is based off ICS) was for us. CM10 has working Browser rotation, working MMS, and a much more stable Camera! The Video Cam is something to be desired but a small price to pay for the latest and greatest when really tho, our Photons still only officially have Gingerbread (Android 2.3.4/5).
If your someone who has updated their Photon to 2.3.5, forget it, you're stuck with Gingerbread for now.
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[Q] Best CM9/AOSP ROM to start with?

Just wanted to gauge what people on XDA thought was the best CM9/AOSP rom was to start off with. I was looking through development, and it seems like the "le noob" one is the only one available, but after reading through the developer thread and general thread, it sounds as if there are other builds that are floating around, mainly Gray The Wolf's build. Out of the 3 Android phones I've owned (OG Droid, Droid X and the Rezound), this will be the first time I will be running CM9. I just want to know which build is the best to start off on. I am currently on Vigor360 and love the ROM, but wanted to try something new and definitely wanted to try a more stock Android experience.
Thanks for any feedback/insight.
All the CM9 builds are more or less the same. The only difference with antp's "le n00b" build is a different boot animation and the inclusion of Google Now, neither of which affect the core OS. I think Grey The Wolf's build is pretty much straight stock, but I haven't tried it. I think his might have the new drivers and the Torch fix baked in as well, but those should be coming to antp's build soon as well. Anything labeled as CM9 is going to be basically the same experience. Neo is doing AOKP nightlies right now and they're good, but because of the wifi bug, I don't think they're quite ready for prime time yet. AOKP is a lot more customizable than CM9 out of the box, but it's not quite as stable right now, though I probably will be running full time once a couple more of the wrinkles are ironed out.
I'm running antp's CM9 now, and I'll probably stick with it until AOKP is ready unless something significantly improved comes out.
Do any of these roms have functioning bluetooth for calls? I know that media works, but the last build I tried from antp was just static on calls.
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Do any of these roms have functioning bluetooth for calls? I know that media works, but the last build I tried from antp was just static on calls.
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I dont believe bluetooth for calls is working on any aosp based rom yet there close.
as for other rom choices all the cm9s are basically the same minus ants boot animation and google now but another choice is miui. if youve enver tried it its quite a refreshing take for aosp
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I dont believe bluetooth for calls is working on any aosp based rom yet there close.
as for other rom choices all the cm9s are basically the same minus ants boot animation and google now but another choice is miui. if youve enver tried it its quite a refreshing take for aosp
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I haven't been able to confirm yet, but antp121's "le noob" ROM thread says Bluetooth is functional as of 9-10.
Bluetooth for media and file transfer is working. Bluetooth for calls is not.
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
My build is straight from what Chad puts out. He sends an update and I usually build that same day.
Antp121 adds some frilly things.
Everything works on my build , including torch, except for Bluetooth calls. Media works.
I like the Miui Rom. The toggles for the quick settings are very intuitive and you can just long press to go into extended settings. Neat features like that are great. I can't seem to get the voice search and speach to text to work though.

[Q] CM10

Hey guys,
Since it came out, I've been wanting to give CM10 (or any JB rom) a try, but the fact that this vibrant is my only phone is keeping me from doing it. So now, after a few months of development, my question is: Would you say the latest CM10 is at least as stable as CM9? I've been running CM9 as my daily driver for the past several months and have had no problem big enough to make me go back to froyo. I understand neither of these is considered "stable" yet, but if it does at least as well as CM9 (which is pretty stable other than GPS) then I want to give it a try.
I would appreciate it if you could also take the time to point out any potential deal-breakers on CM10, or any specifics that I (average guy who follows step by step instructions) should be aware of before flashing it.
Thank you.
Other than the obvious GPS and possible 911 issues, all the vibrant JB Roms are solid IMO.I tried cm10 preview, before the official+nightlies were released. It was decent then so I'm sure its even better now. I used HB for awhile with no issues. Now I'm on on Paranoid Android, this ROM is gangbusters sick. Very fast and has awesome features. Slimbean has had a lot of great reviews but I haven't tried it.
I don't think you'll will be disappointed with any of them.
Paranoid, sitting in a deep sweat...
I agree. I was on a few of the Helly Bean builds, and was quite happy with them. On a tip I decided to try Paranoid Android, and it's fantastic.
I suggest you do some reading up on each of the options available for our Vibrant. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at just how well your Vibrant runs with JB.
Thanks guys. Do you know of any specifics I should watch out for when flashing (other than the potential EU bug)?
Maelstrom08 said:
Thanks guys. Do you know of any specifics I should watch out for when flashing (other than the potential EU bug)?
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There haven't been any reports of EU bug with JB, its only an ICS thing.
Paranoid, sitting in a deep sweat...
You might want to check out the euroskang version of CM10 and AOKP.
Maelstrom08 said:
Hey guys,
Since it came out, I've been wanting to give CM10 (or any JB rom) a try, but the fact that this vibrant is my only phone is keeping me from doing it. So now, after a few months of development, my question is: Would you say the latest CM10 is at least as stable as CM9? I've been running CM9 as my daily driver for the past several months and have had no problem big enough to make me go back to froyo. I understand neither of these is considered "stable" yet, but if it does at least as well as CM9 (which is pretty stable other than GPS) then I want to give it a try.
I would appreciate it if you could also take the time to point out any potential deal-breakers on CM10, or any specifics that I (average guy who follows step by step instructions) should be aware of before flashing it.
Thank you.
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Ive tried CM10,paranoid and now im on slimbean. I like slimbean the best. Its really all having to do with personal preferences. All 3 are great ROM's for the Vibrant.
*UPDATE*
Just wanted to share my experience on JB roms after having flashed CM10 a couple days ago. To answer my original question, it is just as stable (probably more so) as CM9 and other ICS roms. Literally everything works perfectly (again, from my experience) except for GPS, and even that has been reported to be better than on CM9 roms. Google now, expanding notifications, project-b and everything else works just as snappy as you would expect.
btw, I assume all other JB roms are this stable, not only CM10 (personal preference).
You might want to try the GPS hardware fix to get it working, I'm getting GPS signal fine with JB. Although ICS do get faster locking.
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