I have a couple family members who are on Verizon and want a big phone. I've mentioned the LG Intuition to them and they, of course, asked me "Is it any good?" I told them I wasn't sure of the specs and would check, and I was heavily annoyed by the conflicting information i found.
I got most all the specs figured out, the one thing i don't know is what CPU it has. All VZW says is 1.5 GHz Dual-Core, which narrows it down to about half the ARM chips on the market. Googling it, most everyone says Qualcomm, but no one seems to know (or agree on) WHICH Snapdragon it is - S3 or S4
Anyone know which it is?
This phone appears to have a Dual-Core 1.5GHz (SnapDragon S4) chip inside of it. These chips are indeed produced by Qualcomm
I'm fully aware snapdragons are made by qualcomm. The question is, S3 or S4? Because I can't seem to find any proof either way.
If it is the S4, as you say, how do you know?
It's an s3.
http://www.androidcentral.com/first-look-lg-intuition-0
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S3 not S4
www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Intuition_id7360/fullspecs
we all should be polite enough to press thanks for anyone who helped US.
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I have a couple family members who are on Verizon and want a big phone. I've mentioned the LG Intuition to them and they, of course, asked me "Is it any good?" I told them I wasn't sure of the specs and would check, and I was heavily annoyed by the conflicting information i found.
I got most all the specs figured out, the one thing i don't know is what CPU it has. All VZW says is 1.5 GHz Dual-Core, which narrows it down to about half the ARM chips on the market. Googling it, most everyone says Qualcomm, but no one seems to know (or agree on) WHICH Snapdragon it is - S3 or S4
Anyone know which it is?
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i have had the device since last friday. It has a 1.5 Snapdragon S3. It runs well on this device. Kudos to LG on this one and I am not a big LG fan. I just wanted to try something out with a big screen.
LG Intuition
android community reports it's a Qualcomm MSM8960 PC Mag says that is a Snapdragon S4
I just bought mine yesterday...I really love it. I hate the bloatware...but hopefully i can root it soon.
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I have a couple family members who are on Verizon and want a big phone. I've mentioned the LG Intuition to them and they, of course, asked me "Is it any good?" I told them I wasn't sure of the specs and would check, and I was heavily annoyed by the conflicting information i found.
I got most all the specs figured out, the one thing i don't know is what CPU it has. All VZW says is 1.5 GHz Dual-Core, which narrows it down to about half the ARM chips on the market. Googling it, most everyone says Qualcomm, but no one seems to know (or agree on) WHICH Snapdragon it is - S3 or S4
Anyone know which it is?
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I've had this phone for 4 days now and I was in love as soon as I started playing with it, I read reviews about it online and honestly I think it's Bs, I have no problem holding the phone and the squareness of it, I love.
It's fast and of course the big screen is awesome.
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Dont remove bloat on LG Intuition!!!
galaxyvibrantsteph said:
android community reports it's a Qualcomm MSM8960 PC Mag says that is a Snapdragon S4
I just bought mine yesterday...I really love it. I hate the bloatware...but hopefully i can root it soon.
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I bricked my LG Intuition and found out after that LG has a added security measure that if you remove pre-installed apps the first time you power the device off and back on it locks the device!!!!! The phone has a feature that you can disable apps you dont want wich will keep those apps from caching and using memory.
Don't think that's true bud. OP, I am 6'8" and absolutely love my intuition. I just got it successfully rooted about a week and a half ago after a LOT of researching and the first thing I did was remove all unwanted bloatware (it was killin me to see like 3 shopping apps stuck on my phone like amazon and swoops!). Haven't had a single problem since, aside from not being able to find a jb rom!
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im stuck!
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I bricked my LG Intuition and found out after that LG has a added security measure that if you remove pre-installed apps the first time you power the device off and back on it locks the device!!!!! The phone has a feature that you can disable apps you dont want wich will keep those apps from caching and using memory.
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Have you had any luck fixing the phone? I recently bricked my intuition also doing the same thing...removing extra apps.
Autogazim said:
Don't think that's true bud. OP, I am 6'8" and absolutely love my intuition. I just got it successfully rooted about a week and a half ago after a LOT of researching and the first thing I did was remove all unwanted bloatware (it was killin me to see like 3 shopping apps stuck on my phone like amazon and swoops!). Haven't had a single problem since, aside from not being able to find a jb rom!
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I've read in multiple places that removing certain Google apps does trigger the phone, on next boot, displaying "LG Security Error" (you can find the image if you poke around the filesystem). I did the same after rooting - taking out most of the apps I didn't want but I didn't touch any Google apps for fear it would break something,
I've also read in one place that another app or service actually verifies and if that's disabled, then the security check doesn't run. I have not been able to confirm yet.
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Hey guys, I've got kinda a two parter question..
The first is this, do you think the SGS2 will be able to keep up as a leading Android phone or at least pretty high end for another year or two? Also will development keep up for much longer? Or would it be more logical to wait for the SGS3 and go for that?
And, assuming it would stay active and strong, do you think the price would drop once the SGS3 comes out dramatically? As in is it worth getting it now or should I wait for the SGS3 one way or the other.
Thanks in advanced!
The hardware of the sgs II is pretty nice. As you can see, the xperia s and the new htc smartphones (one s, one x) got sgs II-hardware.
This means our lovely galaxy will stay at top of all for at least a few more month. Then the sgs III will be released.
Thanks to apples 4s, htc one s x and the xperia s the sgs II is nowhere near being outdated.
One more thing, 4.3 inch is the limit for me! I dont see why people would buy the sgs III with a 4.65 inch display.
thats true haha, the size is the thing that worries me... however the screen covers more of the front so im thinking the actual SIZE of the phone won`t be that much greater
I can get a rooted with ICS installed SGS2 for 400$... is that good you think?
the only thing pulling me to SGS3 is how much longer itll probably last than the SGS2 just being released over a year later... but price worries me of it too since people are guessing over 800 and thats too much for me :S
Also would be nice for continued dev support
Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Try and get it cheaper without root and ICS as you can apply both of those yourself with all the guides available here. I'm not sure what the selling price is for the gs2 is in $, so the price you quoted could be cheap as it is lol
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Yeah no they're all around 400$ give or take 25, all i would need is to make sure that the screen has NO scratches and that it works XD the root and ICS was just a bonus haha
I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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I'm guessing it's probably best to get a phone that hasn't been flashed or altered. At least that way you'll know the original firmwares etc of the phone.
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That's a good point... less risky. My main thing is, is the SGS3 gonna be worth the 2 month+ wait and the extra like 300$+... waiting isn't a big deal, 300-400 dollars is XD
Pretty much in the same boat as you. My contract with Sprint will be up this Summer, so looking into a GS3 (or other quadcore handset). I've heard the GS3 may launch next month in England, though not sure about the rest of the world. I've read conflicting reports on whether there will be a unified global launch, so it's possible N. America will have to wait until Fall again.
Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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Another thing to note is that while Tegra 3 is benchmarking better than all the dual core ARM processors out there, it performs really poorly compared to Apple's A5X chip. Given this, it's probably not a stretch that SG3's Exynos 3 will outperform it as well. There's also Snapdragon, though that isn't expected until Q4.
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That's probably because the iPad 3 has a quad core gpu. Plus you have to remember Tegra 3 was already late to the game. It was supposed to be out last summer but as usual Nvidia can never deliver anything on time!
Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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One of the main reasons im considering the SGS3 is cause i think that android and apps are starting to become optimized for more than single core.
For me though the main selling point isn't actually the GPU, but rather the huge battery (anything over 2k is awesome!) and the tons of RAM, nice internal storage, SD card, and if this phone is any indication, probably good dev support I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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Also no apps seem to be using more than 2 cores. Most are only utilizing 1.
The quad Exynos will only come close to the A5X gpu performance if they use at least a dual core Mali 600.
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I would get the HTC One S if it werent for the no SD card and pretty small battery :/
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I know. The Nexus Prime has that issue as well. I'd imagine flashing ROMs would be unnecessarily complicated, since they have one giant partition.
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I'm not so sure about that, i think it wouldn't cause too much trouble, but the thing is with 16 gb of internal memory, after ICS and sense and bloat, that'll leave probably less than 10gb of actually usable memory which is too little for me in the long run :/
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Really? That's unfortunate. I thought ICS automated much of this, though I suppose it makes sense that each developer would need to add support from their end.
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I believe it is up to the developer. Same as hardware acceleration.
Hell even Adobe Photoshop only used a single core all the way up to CS5.
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I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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IamSnah said:
I would just go for the S2 as soon as the retailers in your area starts to sell them out cheap (to get rid of stock before launch of S3).
It's a great phone, still getting updates from Samsung - resulting in great mods from the XDA community.
And when the time comes that you'll be needing more power, just overclock it - extending the lifetime of it (for your use, NOT the phone itself).
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Yeah that was definitely one of things I was considering, IF the price drops by saaay.. 30%? Bring it from 600 to 400 new, I think I could go for that. But if the SGS3 is less than 800 its definitely in my radar
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This sounds very much like the deliberation I have when buying any new piece of tech, such as a laptop, always looking for the next new thing and wondering whether to wait or take the plunge now.
I would vote for an SGS2. It's a super phone with a massive modding community behind it to at least push it for another 1.5 to 2 years. I've had mine since July of last year and I'm only now seeing other phones catching up so you certainly would be behind the times with an SGS2.
My phone provider has a very limited selection of Android phones (one to be specific) and I simply cannot afford to buy a brand new name brand phone outright. Was wondering if anyone here has a no name phone or if I get one what the difficulties would be on the rooting/development side. I'm what you'd call a geek I guess and pretty tech savvy but this is my phone, not just a tablet or something that I can work on later if it fails. I'd still have my X10 for a backup, just don't want to pay for a dud. Here are the ones I was looking at.
http://dx.com//p/137028
http://dx.com//p/143969
http://dx.com//p/149206
http://dx.com//p/148048
The last one has me intrigued. Says no name but box says Galaxy S III and batteries and sticker under battery say Samsung and it's super identical but not exact. Maybe even close enough for development and cases?
they are all from China. And i have used one of china phone before and it's pretty bad if you ask me about the quality.
If they are from a brand like Oppo Finder or something then it's all good but when they have 2 sim slots and no clear brand then you shouldn't buy it
SumCanadianGuy said:
My phone provider has a very limited selection of Android phones (one to be specific) and I simply cannot afford to buy a brand new name brand phone outright. Was wondering if anyone here has a no name phone or if I get one what the difficulties would be on the rooting/development side. I'm what you'd call a geek I guess and pretty tech savvy but this is my phone, not just a tablet or something that I can work on later if it fails. I'd still have my X10 for a backup, just don't want to pay for a dud. Here are the ones I was looking at.
http://dx.com//p/137028
http://dx.com//p/143969
http://dx.com//p/149206
http://dx.com//p/148048
The last one has me intrigued. Says no name but box says Galaxy S III and batteries and sticker under battery say Samsung and it's super identical but not exact. Maybe even close enough for development and cases?
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Honestly, non brand names can actually be pretty good. You have to look at the specs however. MTK 6575 is a 1ghz single core and MTK 6577 is 1ghz dual core. Screen resolution is important, Chinese manufacturers like to have low resolutions on big displays (that last one, the S3 clone, has a WVGA, 800x480 4.8 inch screen! Blegh!). Also be sure to check out the Android version number, they even lie to you sometimes! I once heard about this one phone that was marketed as with ICS but was in reality a themed GB.
EDIT: took a look and found the first 3 are all WVGA on 5 inch screens which will look even more like crap and the second to last one has a MTK 6573 CPU at only 650 mhz which is very slow
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SumCanadianGuy said:
My phone provider has a very limited selection of Android phones (one to be specific) and I simply cannot afford to buy a brand new name brand phone outright. Was wondering if anyone here has a no name phone or if I get one what the difficulties would be on the rooting/development side. I'm what you'd call a geek I guess and pretty tech savvy but this is my phone, not just a tablet or something that I can work on later if it fails. I'd still have my X10 for a backup, just don't want to pay for a dud. Here are the ones I was looking at.
The last one has me intrigued. Says no name but box says Galaxy S III and batteries and sticker under battery say Samsung and it's super identical but not exact. Maybe even close enough for development and cases?
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That last one is interesting, I wonder if you could flash other stock roms onto it?
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That last one is interesting, I wonder if you could flash other stock roms onto it?
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No way, just because it looks like an s3 on the outside does not mean you can do Samsung galaxy s3 hacks onto it.
Completely different internals!
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The last one is running Android 2.3. I would expect you have 0% chance of getting anything newer running on it.
It's an obvious thing to say, but you get what you pay for. They all look sort of okay, but you'll regret not shelling out the extra for the real thing, especially with all the future development and upgrades you'll miss out on.
No problem with it but don't expect to get any Android Updates from the manufacturer or custom recovery, ROM etc from the community the best you will be able to do is Root your phone but that's about it.
Thanks for a all the replies, I think I'm leaning more towards a goophone Y5 now.
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SumCanadianGuy said:
Thanks for a all the replies, I think I'm leaning more towards a goophone Y5 now.
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Its a no name but one of the better ones (if you don't mind it looking like an iphone). The original ROM is crap with too much chinese but I found a review on youtube about a custom ROM someone made with major modifications that you can buy for $3 or something. Based on the review, the $3 is worth it
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Overall a real nice device. 4.5" wvga 1.5ghz dual core s4 1gb ram. Anyone have any plans to develop or find a root method? Thanks
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Just got it, great phone with a great price for people on 2 year contracts(30 dollars) I sent a request for a new sub-forum for it, support will come. Right now it's just a waiting game, MSM8960 S4 ftw!
I got two of them before Christmas, they seem to be very solid. Ours were 2 for $100 w/ 2yr. contract. My wife loves hers except for the battery life. I went back to my skyrocket until a root is available.
I just got this phone... I really like it.. can't wait for a new forum and be able to root.
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2000mah battery and super amoled the battery life is great for me and I am playing ps1 games on it with epsxe. I just want root and rom development to connect ps3 controller to the phone and overclock among other things like better battery life, my advice is to install apex launcher and disable every bloatware app you can .
A root method that actually works is on unlockroot.com it will install some spam toolbar crap but if you have a brain you can figure out how to remove it.
I just got one of these earlier today, brand spankin' new, not a mark on it (not even fingerprints, I swear) and did the unlock procedure which worked without a hitch, and I've been trying to hit the AT&T servers (even though I'm connected with T-Mobile) to force the Jelly Bean update and it just started a few minutes ago so we'll see what happens soon enough.
Snappy, fast, responsive, feels good in the hand, and since Samsung posted the source code I gotta wonder why there doesn't seem to be much if any interest in this device at all. It's like a dual core S3 from the specs, pretty damned close to it (and better than the S3 mini by far).
I wish I had a clue about ROM and kernel development 'cause if I did I'd get to work on it but, I suppose at some point maybe someone will create something more useful for us.
Seems like it would have just a bit more support here for some reason: a search for "samsung galaxy express" turns up only 6 threads, and this is one of them.
Maybe the bigger more talented developers just don't find such a "consumer" class device worth messing around with, I don't know, but I'd be grateful if anyone could do something in terms of a ROM, even a pure AOSP one would be worlds better than the stock AT&T bloatware.
It's rebooting and doing the Android upgrade at this moment, 83 apps to go... now to figure out a potential root.
So this device has working Jelly Bean? I was thinking of upgrading to this or a Pantech Discover, same price, nearly same specs, but I know Samsung in general has better support.
Jelly Bean 4.1.2 is available as an OTA for the Galaxy Express, mine updated yesterday and it works fine but I've noticed an issue with GPS fixing - with ICS 4.0.4 on it (factory stock AT&T ROM) the GPS would pull in like 22 satellites and that's from inside my apartment which is on the top/3rd floor of my apartment building here in downtown Las Vegas, and get a solid fix in under 3-5 seconds almost always.
Now with JB on it, I'm lucky to get 2 or 3 satellites in the first minute alone, and a fix takes a very long time so, again, I sure wish there was someone that cared about this phone. It's got what appears to be decent hardware, it's pretty damned fast, but it's all but ignored here and anywhere else that I've searched for info at.
Was hoping someone would find a way to do a backup of the pure factory stock 4.0.4 so I could roll back to that but now that's just not possible, and since this phone was given to me by a friend (at an AT&T store, even) I'm not sure if I take it in and complain that they'd replace it or flash it back to ICS if they're even capable.
But I like the phone, I really do, I just wish someone would put some interest in it. I know the source code for ICS is available but someone mentioned some parts were missing, not sure about how accurate that is, and I'm not a developer of any kind whatsoever. More than likely if I made some feeble attempt to get the SDK and then compile the source code Samsung has provided I'd just brick the thing and then be really pissed - even if I did get it for free.
So I'll just hang on to it for the moment, hoping someone decides to spend some time with it (would love to roll back to ICS, honestly, the GPS matters to me and right now not getting a fix in < 5 minutes is damned irritating.
I installed a system monitor app (nice one called - go figure - System Monitor, more info at: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.systemmonitor) and was pleasantly surprised to see it offers a cool overlay ala S3 style CPU monitor gadget (not a widget, it floats above everything else) and I started up a video with MX Player and noted that one of the CPU cores stayed offline for the entire time but the one active core never downclocked lower than 1.1 GHz.
I then cleared everything from RAM and closed all apps with Task Manager (hold Home, etc) and then ran just the System Monitor with no other apps running and just watched it for 5 minutes straight - that one active core never ever went below 1.1 GHz even though the app plainly shows 384 MHz min/1.5GHz max which is correct for the stock kernel and the Snapdragon CPU (if rooted getting 228 MHz or something might be possible, I don't know).
But 5 solid minutes I watched it and it never downclocked under 1.1 GHz, could be the reason why the battery life ain't all it should be I suppose. I disabled airplane mode for the screenshot, I don't even have service right now (getting it tomorrow on the 1st of the month) but the T-Mobile microSIM is activated and will connect to their Yahoo summary page, and it's pretty snappy but I can't run any speedtest yet.
/me hopes someone will take an interest in this rather solid device...
If it turns out to have some funky new Samsung lockdown on it or partitioning scheme, so be it, but it would be great to see what this thing can really do considering it's got real LTE support from the gitgo (and it works with T-Mobile 4G LTE here in Vegas too).
Here's to hoping... :fingers-crossed:
I was looking at the Samsung Galaxy Express i8730 as a replacement for my old Galaxy Note I (yeah, a downgrade, but since I got a new tablet, I decided my phone would mostly be that--a phone). But the lack of dev support turned me away. No ROMs built just for it, just a couple of ways to root. No ROMs, no deal. I was surprised the lower-spec'd Samsung Galaxy Grand i9080/82 had a dedicated section all its own.
I'm gonna pin the blame on Samsung for this one—made too many phones of similar ilk, fragmenting the already dizzying mid-end smartphone segment. Of course devs would likely just hack for the most popular phones; see no point in developing ROMs for each and every phone.
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Jelly Bean 4.1.2 is available as an OTA for the Galaxy Express, mine updated yesterday and it works fine but I've noticed an issue with GPS fixing - with ICS 4.0.4 on it (factory stock AT&T ROM) the GPS would pull in like 22 satellites and that's from inside my apartment which is on the top/3rd floor of my apartment building here in downtown Las Vegas, and get a solid fix in under 3-5 seconds almost always.
Now with JB on it, I'm lucky to get 2 or 3 satellites in the first minute alone, and a fix takes a very long time so, again, I sure wish there was someone that cared about this phone. It's got what appears to be decent hardware, it's pretty damned fast, but it's all but ignored here and anywhere else that I've searched for info at.
Was hoping someone would find a way to do a backup of the pure factory stock 4.0.4 so I could roll back to that but now that's just not possible, and since this phone was given to me by a friend (at an AT&T store, even) I'm not sure if I take it in and complain that they'd replace it or flash it back to ICS if they're even capable.
But I like the phone, I really do, I just wish someone would put some interest in it. I know the source code for ICS is available but someone mentioned some parts were missing, not sure about how accurate that is, and I'm not a developer of any kind whatsoever. More than likely if I made some feeble attempt to get the SDK and then compile the source code Samsung has provided I'd just brick the thing and then be really pissed - even if I did get it for free.
So I'll just hang on to it for the moment, hoping someone decides to spend some time with it (would love to roll back to ICS, honestly, the GPS matters to me and right now not getting a fix in < 5 minutes is damned irritating.
I installed a system monitor app (nice one called - go figure - System Monitor, more info at: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.systemmonitor) and was pleasantly surprised to see it offers a cool overlay ala S3 style CPU monitor gadget (not a widget, it floats above everything else) and I started up a video with MX Player and noted that one of the CPU cores stayed offline for the entire time but the one active core never downclocked lower than 1.1 GHz.
I then cleared everything from RAM and closed all apps with Task Manager (hold Home, etc) and then ran just the System Monitor with no other apps running and just watched it for 5 minutes straight - that one active core never ever went below 1.1 GHz even though the app plainly shows 384 MHz min/1.5GHz max which is correct for the stock kernel and the Snapdragon CPU (if rooted getting 228 MHz or something might be possible, I don't know).
But 5 solid minutes I watched it and it never downclocked under 1.1 GHz, could be the reason why the battery life ain't all it should be I suppose. I disabled airplane mode for the screenshot, I don't even have service right now (getting it tomorrow on the 1st of the month) but the T-Mobile microSIM is activated and will connect to their Yahoo summary page, and it's pretty snappy but I can't run any speedtest yet.
/me hopes someone will take an interest in this rather solid device...
If it turns out to have some funky new Samsung lockdown on it or partitioning scheme, so be it, but it would be great to see what this thing can really do considering it's got real LTE support from the gitgo (and it works with T-Mobile 4G LTE here in Vegas too).
Here's to hoping... :fingers-crossed:
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Good for you, you got to experience ICS. Mine was JB straight out of the box.
My Express can't even lock onto a single sat while indoors. It just sits there seeing 23 or 24 satellites. But while outdoors, it locks onto eighteen of them in under five minutes.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_s8-6681.php
http://www.mobilegeeks.com/lenovo-tab-s8-full-review-video/
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/
Do you guys think this device will be supported by anyone on XDA?
There isn't a trace of anything currently, which appears to be the case for anything by Lenovo unfortunately, which is a shame as this appears to be a very capable device.
I'd love to replace my N7 (2013) with one but the lack of support and being forced to use Lenovo's (most likely crap) software is a deal-breaker.
It currently costs just over £100 in the UK because of a deal with Curry's and a cashback scheme from Lenovo themselves.
Nice little tablet
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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Yea it would be nice but that's my concern.
All the "smart" people are using Nexus 7s or Galaxy Tabs and have no interest in this.
I've decided against it for now! Glad you're enjoying yours though.
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I hope this gets support!
Spec wise it's better than the nexus 7. The Intel atom 3745 is bang in the middle performance wise compared to the snapdragon 600 and 800. Got mine for 107 from p.c world, what a bargain!!!
Hope the popularity picks up and we see it get root access. Custom roms would be a huge bonus, but I won't be holding my breath!
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I too would love to see a sub-forum for this device. I've bought one and am seriously impressed with it for the price. Only one gripe is that the screen flashes once every so often. I hope it's software related rather than hardware.
Interesting, mine does the screen flashing too. It seems some apps cause it more than others.
I would love to see a forum for this device to start getting users together.
i would like to get root on this aswell, its an awesome tablet for the price but root would make it so much better
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I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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Is that a little like walking backwards? Get the device first, then hope for root and/or developer support.
Generally, the advice is check for root and/or developer support first, then buy the device. Apart from ensuring you don't end up with a dead end device, it also ensures that your business goes to reward manufacurers that produce open and flexible devices that really do adapt to their customer's needs and usage rather than forcing customers into a strait jacket.
I would also like to gain root access for this device. If anyone knows of a way to root I'd be extremely thankful!
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Is that a little like walking backwards? Get the device first, then hope for root and/or developer support.
Generally, the advice is check for root and/or developer support first, then buy the device. Apart from ensuring you don't end up with a dead end device, it also ensures that your business goes to reward manufacurers that produce open and flexible devices that really do adapt to their customer's needs and usage rather than forcing customers into a strait jacket.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't apply to my decision to buy this tablet. It would be nice to have a root solution for the reasons I mentioned, but I knew one was unavailable when I purchased it. If we get root, great, I'll use Titanium Backup and get rid of some apps I don't plan on using. If we don't get root, it's still a great tablet with a fantastic screen, decent speakers, and solid performance for under $200. Since I'm unlikely to keep any device as my primary device for more than around 18 months (I get bored and want something shinier!), I'm not super concerned about whether or not it's considered a "dead end device" either.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't apply to my decision to buy this tablet. It would be nice to have a root solution for the reasons I mentioned, but I knew one was unavailable when I purchased it. If we get root, great, I'll use Titanium Backup and get rid of some apps I don't plan on using. If we don't get root, it's still a great tablet with a fantastic screen, decent speakers, and solid performance for under $200. Since I'm unlikely to keep any device as my primary device for more than around 18 months (I get bored and want something shinier!), I'm not super concerned about whether or not it's considered a "dead end device" either.
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It's cool that you were informed before you bought it. LG G Pad 8.3 offers similar benefits but is more open.
On these devices that can monitor ever more of what one does and report back to who-knows-where without one's knowledge or permission, one is motivated to demand more and more control that isn't possible if the devices are locked down. I hope Lenovo's lack of openness doesn't rub off on Motorola now they own it.
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For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
ThisDude78 said:
For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Did you mean this forum?
A little OT. I apologize but...
The newly released Nokia N1 seems a good, comparable device for similar outlay. Intel Atom too. Unlocked bootloader. Wifi-only though.
Sadly no word on kernel sources, 3rd party developer friendliness etc
MiyagiSan said:
Did you mean *removed* this forum[/URL]?
A little OT. I apologize but...
The newly released Nokia N1 seems a good, comparable device for similar outlay. Intel Atom too. Unlocked bootloader. Wifi-only though.
Sadly no word on kernel sources, 3rd party developer friendliness etc
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Yeah, that's the right forum.
I looked at the N1, and had it been available when my Nexus 7 broke, it would have been on my short list. My only real issue is the aspect ratio. It's unclear at this time how well apps are going to play on th 4:3 screen. I've read that a lot of stuff doesn't really look great on the Nexus 9. That could turn out to be a totally groundless concern though, we'll see.
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Yeah, that's the right forum.
I looked at the N1, and had it been available when my Nexus 7 broke, it would have been on my short list. My only real issue is the aspect ratio. It's unclear at this time how well apps are going to play on th 4:3 screen. I've read that a lot of stuff doesn't really look great on the Nexus 9. That could turn out to be a totally groundless concern though, we'll see.
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I'd bet it would be on a lot of shortlists. Nokia dropped the ball by not releasing this in time for Xmas. Would have ended up in a few stockings that may now get an Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact or Nexus 7/9 or LG G Pad 8.3 or iPad Mini...
Just trying to determine if CM11 (or other AOSP roms) can be ported to it. That would make it an awesome [almost budget] choice.
ThisDude78 said:
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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hello
Can you make calls through it? Supposedly there is an LTE version but not sure if that is just for data access or actually has cellular capability for calling. Thanks.
mac231us said:
hello
Can you make calls through it? Supposedly there is an LTE version but not sure if that is just for data access or actually has cellular capability for calling. Thanks.
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There is an LTE version (S8-50CL I think?), but mine is wifi only. I don't know if the LTE variant can make calls. To be honest, I'm not sure I've seen the LTE version available for purchase anywhere.
ThisDude78 said:
There is an LTE version (S8-50CL I think?), but mine is wifi only. I don't know if the LTE variant can make calls. To be honest, I'm not sure I've seen the LTE version available for purchase anywhere.
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thanks...i saw this one (have heard of this site before..not bad from what I have heard) (though description at bottom is for an older design, info at top is for the new design)
http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-tab-s8-50-4g-lte-8inches-2gb-ram-16gb-ram-tab_p/meri10444.htm
yes Lenovo site at
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-features
says this
"Optional LTE ConnectivityThe TAB S8 supports high-speed LTE (4G) data connectivity - enabling you to browse websites, stream movies & music, and do so much more at blazingly fast speeds. In certain regions, additional voice support is available on select models."
wonder what those select models are...
Question..how is the display quality? viewing angles, color, brightness and not smudgy I hope...maybe reflective guessing. any info appreciated
thx
mac231us said:
thanks...i saw this one (have heard of this site before..not bad from what I have heard) (though description at bottom is for an older design, info at top is for the new design)
http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-tab-s8-50-4g-lte-8inches-2gb-ram-16gb-ram-tab_p/meri10444.htm
yes Lenovo site at
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-features
says this
"Optional LTE ConnectivityThe TAB S8 supports high-speed LTE (4G) data connectivity - enabling you to browse websites, stream movies & music, and do so much more at blazingly fast speeds. In certain regions, additional voice support is available on select models."
wonder what those select models are...
Question..how is the display quality? viewing angles, color, brightness and not smudgy I hope...maybe reflective guessing. any info appreciated
thx
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The display is the best part of this tablet, honestly. It's bright, the colors look great (to me at least), and the viewing angles are fantastic. It doesn't collect any more smudges than the display on my G2.
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ThisDude78 said:
For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Could you upload the files mate
My current rom, sitting at 85k views, is unpolished as heck. I am concerned considering how much viewership it has gained in the past two years. I would love to fix it, but I am not sure what is left to improve on as the phone is ancient. Does anyone even sift through here anymore? Just a question before I try modding my Nexus 6p
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UltraRoboto said:
My current rom, sitting at 85k views, is unpolished as heck. I am concerned considering how much viewership it has gained in the past two years. I would love to fix it, but I am not sure what is left to improve on as the phone is ancient. Does anyone even sift through here anymore? Just a question before I try modding my Nexus 6p
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I am pretty sure that you can safely say that this phone is, not technically dead, but no one looks at xda for android for it anymore, more than likely.
There are newer better phones which are actually cheaper than the L9.
The only reason I came up here, is because I still own one, and my G3 broke down (long story) and I needed a phone to be reached on, and well as it so happens it was bricked so I needed new firmware on it.
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I am pretty sure that you can safely say that this phone is, not technically dead, but no one looks at xda for android for it anymore, more than likely.
There are newer better phones which are actually cheaper than the L9.
The only reason I came up here, is because I still own one, and my G3 broke down (long story) and I needed a phone to be reached on, and well as it so happens it was bricked so I needed new firmware on it.
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Welp. I hope you like whats out there currently because I sort of realized I hit a wall within the hardware of the L9 . My CPU quit on the day I got my Nexus 6 so I never really touched it, assuming it was gone forever. However, I received a donation phone and my old one booted up recently. Either way, I still developed for the phone but there is only so much you can do with what is available, ending my updates probably permanently. Feelsbadman
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A real problem seems to be that 1GB of RAM is apparently no longer sufficient. Except if you have Lollipop's or MM's ZRAM and paging. There still seem to be lots of cheaper phones with only 1GB. But as long as they are provided with a current OS, it's still okay.
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A real problem seems to be that 1GB of RAM is apparently no longer sufficient. Except if you have Lollipop's or MM's ZRAM and paging. There still seem to be lots of cheaper phones with only 1GB. But as long as they are provided with a current OS, it's still okay.
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I agree. It's difficult for people who couldn't get unlocked boot(like me because my phone's manufacture date wasn't in 2013.) because there wasnt a way to get to Lollipop and higher because of the security error blocking the way to Paradise. Also the cpu was -and still is- very weak. It took a lot just to get the phone to move snappily after the user added apps. I constantly self-tested the rom and even I had a hard time to get the ram and cpu to move efficiently. I hope more companies ship with 2gb ram or even 3 as the standard for low end phones as well. Opens the door for more user customization
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Yesterday i made a lil' test with Firefox.
The most demanding webpage i know is XDA's "All forums" page. Even when logged in as a user and with much of the ads removed, it crashes the 32bit FF on my desktop pc. Probably because of the 2GB ram limit for 32bit programs under 64bit Windows. (i7-2600k and 16GB should otherwise be sufficient for web browsing)
An Iphone 4s CAN display the page with FF using Apples web engine, despite only 0.5GB of ram. It should take about half an hour to scroll to the bottom of the page, though.
My Huawei Mediapad with 1GB and CM11 will crash, not only ending FF, but also many background services like Google Play Services, in the vain try to free mo' ram.
The P760 performs best of all, with CM13! No crash or FC, Browser is not very responsive, but you can scroll relatively quick, but after a couple of pages there's a pause for rendering the next section. My two Galaxies with 2 and 3GB if ram i didn't test. My Note with Lollipop may fail, but surely not the S5 with Marshmallow like the L9.
(About two years ago i was visiting the forum via WWW with the pc, with no difficulties. Today I use Tapatalk. And even Tapatalk crashes big time every time i access the forum, on the tablet with CM11. Though i only let TT display the subscribed forums, or threads i participated. Smaller forums still mostly work.)
That was my 5 cents about ram limitations, not a bug report about the forum itself, though a more hierarchic structure of the subforums is necessary.
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Yesterday i made a lil' test with Firefox.
The most demanding webpage i know is XDA's "All forums" page. Even when logged in as a user and with much of the ads removed, it crashes the 32bit FF on my desktop pc. Probably because of the 2GB ram limit for 32bit programs under 64bit Windows. (i7-2600k and 16GB should otherwise be sufficient for web browsing)
An Iphone 4s CAN display the page with FF using Apples web engine, despite only 0.5GB of ram. It should take about half an hour to scroll to the bottom of the page, though.
My Huawei Mediapad with 1GB and CM11 will crash, not only ending FF, but also many background services like Google Play Services, in the vain try to free mo' ram.
The P760 performs best of all, with CM13! No crash or FC, Browser is not very responsive, but you can scroll relatively quick, but after a couple of pages there's a pause for rendering the next section. My two Galaxies with 2 and 3GB if ram i didn't test. My Note with Lollipop may fail, but surely not the S5 with Marshmallow like the L9.
(About two years ago i was visiting the forum via WWW with the pc, with no difficulties. Today I use Tapatalk. And even Tapatalk crashes big time every time i access the forum, on the tablet with CM11. Though i only let TT display the subscribed forums, or threads i participated. Smaller forums still mostly work.)
That was my 5 cents about ram limitations, not a bug report about the forum itself, though a more hierarchic structure of the subforums is necessary.
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See the thing is I couldn't unlock my bootloader, making what you said sound impossible imo. Crazy it can do that with cm13. Never could try it out but now I have to test this on my nexus6p! Thanks for the opinion on ram. It opened my eyes a bit.
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On most L9 models the bootloader was unlockable after a firmware downgrade. From the v10 roms only v10a had an unlockable b/l, but several of the v20 ones, I unlocked with v20c, when this rom was the latest. Only the US T-Mobile version was special. But somewhere I read that the final batch of all models have an encrypted b/l, whatever this implies...
UltraRoboto said:
My current rom, sitting at 85k views, is unpolished as heck. I am concerned considering how much viewership it has gained in the past two years. I would love to fix it, but I am not sure what is left to improve on as the phone is ancient. Does anyone even sift through here anymore? Just a question before I try modding my Nexus 6p
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:silly: what?
lecorbusier said:
On most L9 models the bootloader was unlockable after a firmware downgrade. From the v10 roms only v10a had an unlockable b/l, but several of the v20 ones, I unlocked with v20c, when this rom was the latest. Only the US T-Mobile version was special. But somewhere I read that the final batch of all models have an encrypted b/l, whatever this implies...
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I am pretty sure that this implies that encrypted b/l(on basically any batch made after 2013) means rooting is a no go. I found a way to downgrade and go to the euro version, however this never worked for me. thus, making me decide to make a locked bl rom for all to enjoy. However, this was 2 years ago, and I would have pressured people in to fixing problems with my base rom a lot more than before to make both roms a more finished product. Anyone not on p769 may or may not end up with a screen that doesnt shut off. the new Kumakan version(the one my rom is based on) has this problem and consequently, so does mine. The thing had good updates, but that glitch came out of it. No idea how to fix this myself and would need help from someone to get it fixed. now that this forum is half-dead, I half-feel like not doing it. Not sure where to go from here.
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:silly: what?
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not sure what you mean. If you are asking about what I mean, I am asking if the p76X forum page is basically a ghost town or not.
It may soon become one.
As the last remaining dev seems to have submerged, the situation reminds me of when the last active dev for my Huawei tablet got banned on XDA for selling his roms as donationware. (With the only difference that Huawei has produced about a dozen or so different Mediapads over the years, and they are all stuffed into a single subforum.)
well, I still have one and use it - so some interest is there.
Surely there are cheaper/more powerful devices on the market, BUT:
this is 4" - not much out there in that size
it consumes not much power - I use it as navigator on bike tours, providing energy about 5V 300 mA by a hub dynamo - many newer mobiles refuse to load
I would like to see some of the bugs in CM13 removed, other roms seem no option, including stock, because of the ram issues.
Nav is down on my P760 with Cm13, one of the more pressing bugs. No satfix, no compass, just coarse network based location.
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I would like to see some of the bugs in CM13 removed, other roms seem no option, including stock, because of the ram issues.
Nav is down on my P760 with Cm13, one of the more pressing bugs. No satfix, no compass, just coarse network based location.
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Test my rom! I dunno if something still works(also check if the screen stays on...if it does just dip out, if it doesn't, tell me if it needs cleaning up or just ditch it all)
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