[Q] What are your experience with ext2-ext3-ext4? - Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro

Hi,
I use ext2 on my SQ card's second partition, mainly because of recommended compatibility.
I would like to know if anyone is using ext3 or ext4 and feels any difference from ext2.

PetrGasparik said:
Hi,
I use ext2 on my SQ card's second partition, mainly because of recommended compatibility.
I would like to know if anyone is using ext3 or ext4 and feels any difference from ext2.
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For technical difference look at the Unix file system formats. There should be an explanation with difference and pros and cons for each.
For compatibility I am using fat 32 on my second partition and it works good. No issues so far.
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motorazrv3 said:
For technical difference look at the Unix file system formats. There should be an explanation with difference and pros and cons for each.
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Yes, I know
motorazrv3 said:
For compatibility I am using fat 32 on my second partition and it works good. No issues so far.
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Thanks for yourexperience.
I would like to hear from someone using ext2 versus ext3 versus ext4 on Jelly Bean OS.

Fat 32 is more stable....than ex2.
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virajbogle said:
Fat 32 is more stable....than ex2.
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What do you mean by stable?

Link2sd not working with ext2
Link2sd stopped working after jellybean update for me. It's not able to mount the partition anymore. I have to try with ext3/4

never use ext4 ,it is not secured to be used......sometimes data on it wiped without any reason....best is ext3 stable,n speedy
n stable means data is remaning secured n no fear of losing it randomly
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PetrGasparik said:
Hi,
I use ext2 on my SQ card's second partition, mainly because of recommended compatibility.
I would like to know if anyone is using ext3 or ext4 and feels any difference from ext2.
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I tried all. Ext2, ext3, ext4, ext4 no journaling. Also with cylinder alignment during formatting.
Ext2 is the best choice for a2sd and link2sd.
Ext3 is four time slower! Ext4 about three times. Ext4 no journaling about two time.
Fat32 can not be used with a2sd. And suffer of fragmentation.
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what about this: www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7208/1. I'm very confused about debate ext2 vs ext4...
1. I've installed JaggyRom v4.1 with sd-ext, ext2 fs, mounts2sd in reverse mounting and I've felt (maybe placebo, don't know) the rom a little smoother, but in Antutu Benchmark - Database IO points: ~200
2. I've installed JaggyRom v4.1 with sd-ext, ext4 fs, no journaling, mounts2sd in reverse mounting and I've felt (maybe placebo, don't know) the rom a little laggy, but in Antutu Benchmark - Database IO points: ~245
So anybody did more researche and have any conclusion?

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[Q] Questions with apps and external memory.

Ok im still new with Android. I rooted my att aria. this is my rom version below. Ive been reading up a bit on how to use an SD card to install apps to instead of internal memory. I dont want to use it all up i hear that your phone can crash etc.
But not sure if my rom supports Using an external SD instead of internal memory. I have the app: "Rom Manager" which has those options to do with the external.
Just wondering what Roms for the aria support this . Ive seen alot of tutorials and not one of them are the same as the other. so wondering where the best spot for a tutorial would be for the "Aria"
Thanks
Rom Version: Liberated Aria Fr008 (FRF91)
pcrat said:
Ok im still new with Android. I rooted my att aria. this is my rom version below. Ive been reading up a bit on how to use an SD card to install apps to instead of internal memory. I dont want to use it all up i hear that your phone can crash etc.
But not sure if my rom supports Using an external SD instead of internal memory. I have the app: "Rom Manager" which has those options to do with the external.
Just wondering what Roms for the aria support this . Ive seen alot of tutorials and not one of them are the same as the other. so wondering where the best spot for a tutorial would be for the "Aria"
Thanks
Rom Version: Liberated Aria Fr008 (FRF91)
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That ROM has DT A2SD support, so all that you need to do is create an EXT partition on the SD card using ROM Manager and you should be good to do.
Great thanks. I hear talk that ext 2 is better than 3, an others say it the otherway around... so does it REALLY matter?
pcrat said:
Great thanks. I hear talk that ext 2 is better than 3, an others say it the otherway around... so does it REALLY matter?
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I used whatever the default in ROM Manager is.
pcrat said:
Great thanks. I hear talk that ext 2 is better than 3, an others say it the otherway around... so does it REALLY matter?
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ext2 is supposed to be easier on your SD card. ext3 uses journaling, which is said to wear down your sd card faster than normal. Not sure how much faster, or if it even has any affect on todays SD cards.
What the journaling does is it writes to the sd card on the fly so if the phone has an unexpected crash/shutdown, you have a better chance of everything on the ext being saved and less chance of any data loss/corruption. Ext2 doesnt have this protection. When I was running ext2 i never once had any problem with data loss/corruption. Rom Manager now does ext3 by default so I upgraded to ext3. If i could get ext4 support on cm7 I would upgrade to ext4.
Performance wise, there is no difference between ext2 and ext3. Ext4 however supposedly offers a performance increase. Ive not used ext4 on an sd card so I cant speak to that.
CallMeAria said:
ext2 is supposed to be easier on your SD card. ext3 uses journaling, which is said to wear down your sd card faster than normal. Not sure how much faster, or if it even has any affect on todays SD cards.
What the journaling does is it writes to the sd card on the fly so if the phone has an unexpected crash/shutdown, you have a better chance of everything on the ext being saved and less chance of any data loss/corruption. Ext2 doesnt have this protection. When I was running ext2 i never once had any problem with data loss/corruption. Rom Manager now does ext3 by default so I upgraded to ext3. If i could get ext4 support on cm7 I would upgrade to ext4.
Performance wise, there is no difference between ext2 and ext3. Ext4 however supposedly offers a performance increase. Ive not used ext4 on an sd card so I cant speak to that.
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cm7 has ext4 support in even the stock kernel
or are you talking about s2e?
drowningchild said:
cm7 has ext4 support in even the stock kernel
or are you talking about s2e?
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maybe its s2e then. I know s2e can mount my ext3 as ext4, but if I actually format to ext4 it wont mount. I thought the problem was with cm7, but I guess it must be s2e just doesnt support it.
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maybe its s2e then. I know s2e can mount my ext3 as ext4, but if I actually format to ext4 it wont mount. I thought the problem was with cm7, but I guess it must be s2e just doesnt support it.
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s2e says it has support for ext4 without journaling in the latest update
havent tried but i used DT with ext4 and it worked fine but i didnt like DT, as it caused random issues too much
drowningchild said:
s2e says it has support for ext4 without journaling in the latest update
havent tried but i used DT with ext4 and it worked fine but i didnt like DT, as it caused random issues too much
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I think that's the mount as ext4 option, which mounts the ext3 as ext4 without journaling. I just started using it a couple days ago and I haven't noticed any concernable diffrence though. Maybe ill try formatting to ext4 again and see if s2e takes it now.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
ok well, i tried the rom manager and it dont work. so i did it manually. use a partition editor. First Partition is Fat32 approx 1.6 GIGS second partition is ext2 approx. 250 MB so how do i know if the apps will install or not to the ext2?
Thanks
pcrat said:
ok well, i tried the rom manager and it dont work. so i did it manually. use a partition editor. First Partition is Fat32 approx 1.6 GIGS second partition is ext2 approx. 250 MB so how do i know if the apps will install or not to the ext2?
Thanks
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Open up the Terminal Emulator program. Grant it root access when the Super User prompt comes up.
At the # prompt, enter:
a2sd status
It will then print out the status of the a2sd application.
Ok i got it working.. but now alot of my apps dont work. and also neither does the Android market...
1.5GB Fat32 | 250MB Ext3 | 32MB Linux Swap
Try a2sd repair.it will reinstall everything again.been using dt since november and never had problems with it.
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ok i tried that that didnt work. I even did it before i put the Sdcard back in.
If I misunderstood you Im sorry.but you can't remove your SD card at all when running dta2sd.if you do it will mess up.
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Also if your using the included version of dt you might try the latest stable one 2.7.5.2 there are betas but they've always give me problems.
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ok i see. i did the a2sd while i had my sd in the laptop. its ok i backed up the rom first. just reflash and try again...
I was wondering about that..
Thanks will let ya know....
I download dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-signed but cant find it.. sorry a bit new to this still.
once i flash it in recovery mod how do ya access the dtapps2sd then?
That was the problem,, all is transfered now.
Thanks a bunch.
If you downloaded with the xda app it will be in tapatalk downloads. If you downloaded through your browser its in the plain download folder.fr008 comes with astro you can use it to move the file to your SD root if you like but you can browse folders while in recovery also
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[Q]ext3 or ext4

hi guys.Has anyone ever partitioning memory card with ext3 or ext4 format?my rom is GDX v.18 with kernel linux dx v.4 and class my memory is 4.tnx
you mean you're looking for a partitioning tool? you may try this
i used that tool when i partitioned my sdcards(class4) on my X8 and Arc, worked well for me
I have ext3 and class 10 SD, and works good
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thank you for answer .but ext2 for me is very very slow and during boot up my phone is very very very slow.Sometimes my phone Suddenly locked and restated.
ext3 and ext4 also not done .please help me
ext2 is old version of ext3.
I use ext3 with SD 8gb class4 and i donĀ“t have problems.
sorry, what benefits we get from partitioning ?
so basically what's the difference between ext3 and ext4??
Use google
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/
rav3n_pl said:
Use google
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/
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How did you partition memory card format?
xp7 said:
How did you partition memory card format?
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Use MiniTool partition wizard. It's totally free and is the best
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Ext partition

I want to make ext partition of my memory card.
Since I don't find separate guide for ext partition. They all focus on scripts more than ext partition.
I want to know which partition is good for our optimistic one?
Ext2
Ext3
Ext4
What r the advantage and disadvantage of these different partition
Which script to use?
ungaze data2sd or any other
Which apps to move?
App2sd
Link2sd etc
What data can be moved to SD?
Apps dalvic cache
Anything else
What size of ext partition to be used & what size of swap to be used. Does swap help in any way?
Does ext partition help in boosting your quadrant score?
plsss help
I have a 8gb class4 mmc.
Ungaze only moves apps to ext, doesn't move dalvik cache the ext..
Darktremors a2sd script plus a2sdgui allows you to move apps to ext2 or internal memory, allows you to adjust memory usage, and also moves dalvik to sd-ext
S2E-simple2ext moves apps and dalvik to ext2 but can only be used on cm7 roms
Ungaze script-link2sd
Darktremors script-a2sdgui
UNGAZE + DARKTREMORS - s2e
Google search the differences of ext2-4, I do know some roms might only use ext2 partitioning
When you download apps, it's using memory and space when you use a script to move apps to ext2, it takes part of that application and moves it to the ext partition.. So yes using a2sd scripts will improve quadrant scores, some users use quadrant standard and others use anututu, I've used anututu but I could care a less about scores. Im using cosmicxperia 3.4 which has alot of init.d scripts the push performance. It's a stable rom
Sorry if I couldn't help answer your question on the differences, I'm typing this from my phone
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What size to partition?
Swap-0
Partition size-512mb
512mbs is all you really need, do you honestly think you will need 1gb of ext2 space when our phones are only limited to a small ram size? The more apps you have, the more memory you'll use...
So stick to 512mb and 0 swap
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Jrhodes85 said:
Ungaze only moves apps to ext, doesn't move dalvik cache the ext..
Darktremors a2sd script plus a2sdgui allows you to move apps to ext2 or internal memory, allows you to adjust memory usage, and also moves dalvik to sd-ext
S2E-simple2ext moves apps and dalvik to ext2 but can only be used on cm7 roms
Ungaze script-link2sd
Darktremors script-a2sdgui
UNGAZE + DARKTREMORS - s2e
Google search the differences of ext2-4, I do know some roms might only use ext2 partitioning
When you download apps, it's using memory and space when you use a script to move apps to ext2, it takes part of that application and moves it to the ext partition.. So yes using a2sd scripts will improve quadrant scores, some users use quadrant standard and others use anututu, I've used anututu but I could care a less about scores. Im using cosmicxperia 3.4 which has alot of init.d scripts the push performance. It's a stable rom
Sorry if I couldn't help answer your question on the differences, I'm typing this from my phone
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Thnx bro for sharing this
On cosmicexperia which ext partition and methode u r using
Jrhodes85 said:
What size to partition?
Swap-0
Partition size-512mb
512mbs is all you really need, do you honestly think you will need 1gb of ext2 space when our phones are only limited to a small ram size? The more apps you have, the more memory you'll use...
So stick to 512mb and 0 swap
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Why to use swap-0
Basically what's d use of swap
If we use some value of swap, will not be it usefull
Jrhodes85 said:
Ungaze only moves apps to ext, doesn't move dalvik cache the ext..
Darktremors a2sd script plus a2sdgui allows you to move apps to ext2 or internal memory, allows you to adjust memory usage, and also moves dalvik to sd-ext
S2E-simple2ext moves apps and dalvik to ext2 but can only be used on cm7 roms
Ungaze script-link2sd
Darktremors script-a2sdgui
UNGAZE + DARKTREMORS - s2e
Google search the differences of ext2-4, I do know some roms might only use ext2 partitioning
When you download apps, it's using memory and space when you use a script to move apps to ext2, it takes part of that application and moves it to the ext partition.. So yes using a2sd scripts will improve quadrant scores, some users use quadrant standard and others use anututu, I've used anututu but I could care a less about scores. Im using cosmicxperia 3.4 which has alot of init.d scripts the push performance. It's a stable rom
Sorry if I couldn't help answer your question on the differences, I'm typing this from my phone
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What do u mean by
Ungaze+darktremor-s2e
cure25 said:
Why to use swap-0
Basically what's d use of swap
If we use some value of swap, will not be it usefull
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Swap memory can be used as ram memory of the phone,but since our phone has lot of ram,no one recommends it.This is because using swap memory drastically reduces your sd card life span(as there are continuous read/write cycles).
ashishv said:
Swap memory can be used as ram memory of the phone,but since our phone has lot of ram,no one recommends it.This is because using swap memory drastically reduces your sd card life span(as there are continuous read/write cycles).
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Thnx. U reverted my mind
I use links2SD, which moves the dalvik, lib, and app files to the ext partition on my phone.
If you have a memory card reader for your pc, you can download a free progam called EaseUS partition manager to make and size the ext partitions on your card as EXT2 or EXT3. it's a lot faster than havign to load a custom recovery or go through scripts on your phone to do it.
I think I might of made a mistake, I don't think you need any a2sd scripts if your using simple2ext (s2e), to answer your previous questions I'm using amora recovery 3.06 with cosmicxperia 3.4 full, amora has the access to convert from ext2-ext3 to ext3-ext4 but I always just partition the card which separates a fat32 and ext2 partition with a 0 swap and 512mb ext2 size
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So use a2sd, it's beneficial for our phones, if you had a freaking sgs2 or galaxy nexus or some other phone with lots of space and memory, I wouldn't use a2sd
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Someone please tell which ext partitions is used with which mod.
Confused
Please help
cure25 said:
Someone place tell which ext partitions is used which mod.
Confused
Please help
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Is there anyone you can rephrase that? I didn't quite understand what you said
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Jrhodes85 said:
Is there anyone you can rephrase that? I didn't quite understand what you said
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I mean which ext partition (ext2, ext3, ext4) should be used with
Ungaze data2sd
Darkremor app2sd
S2e
Link2sd
To be completely honest with you I have always stuck to ext2 with everything you just said and everything was running good, although I have heard someone say they set ext4 journaling with s2e, an option you can do under settings from s2e app but if you want my opinion, stick to darktremors and a2sdgui for all non-cm7 roms and s2e for all cm7 roms but some might disagree
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Jrhodes85 said:
To be completely honest with you I have always stuck to ext2 with everything you just said and everything was running good, although I have heard someone say they set ext4 journaling with s2e, an option you can do under settings from s2e app but if you want my opinion, stick to darktremors and a2sdgui for all non-cm7 roms and s2e for all cm7 roms but some might disagree
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Can we use s2e with cosmicexperia rom
Yes, cosmicxperia is based from cm7 source
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ext4 on sdcard

hi everyone
sorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to use the ext4 format on a sdcard on cm7.2?
btw: i have already used the searchengine and found nothing...
sorry for my bad englisch
emyaz said:
hi everyone
sorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to use the ext4 format on a sdcard on cm7.2?
btw: i have already used the searchengine and found nothing...
sorry for my bad englisch
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Its possible but not advisable to use a journalled file system on sdcards / usb sticks and their like.
pkfox said:
Its possible but not advisable to use a journalled file system on sdcards / usb sticks and their like.
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Hmm.... could he mean creating an ext4 partition and if its compatible with CM7? That was my first interpretation of the question.
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Hmm.... could he mean creating an ext4 partition and if its compatible with CM7? That was my first interpretation of the question.
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Oh, I didn't see him mention Cm7 ! But my reply still stands
yes its imposimble
No, its possible, you would need to write a script which automounts the ext4 partition at boot as vold won't do that and fixes permissions, as you would get lots of fcs without.
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Yes it is possible. U need to install data2sd (flash from cwm/any custom recovery) or link2sd available in android market.
Search for link2sd and data2sd in google or here in xda.
finance.resat said:
Yes it is possible. U need to install data2sd (flash from cwm/any custom recovery) or link2sd available in android market.
Search for link2sd and data2sd in google or here in xda.
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i think he talks about formatting the whole sdcard with ext4 and mount that partition as sdcard for performance purposes. Correct me if i'm wrong, but thats how i understood that post. I actually tried the same a few months ago, there really seems to be increased perfomance of the sdcard and using fat32 on a linux devices doesn't make too much sense for me anyways.
Matze5800 said:
i think he talks about formatting the whole sdcard with ext4 and mount that partition as sdcard for performance purposes. Correct me if i'm wrong, but thats how i understood that post. I actually tried the same a few months ago, there really seems to be increased perfomance of the sdcard and using fat32 on a linux devices doesn't make too much sense for me anyways.
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yes thats my question...
I always try and use ext4 in my sd cards. Performance seems to be better. The only reason I ever use FAT32 is so that I can view content in Windows.
No sir. U have to use a partitioning tool to format your SD vard. I am a noob. Learned this technique in xda. It's called a "minitool partition wizard home edition". U can create different number of formats all primary though. I used ext4 for a long time. But now I use ext2. The computer only recognises the first primary partition. So the ext2/4 will not be recognised by the pc and with the help of link2sd or data2sd U'll be able to use it as your internal memory if your phone memory is really tiny. It's related to performance but first its related to expanding your internal memory.
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finance.resat said:
No sir. U have to use a partitioning tool to format your SD vard. I am a noob. Learned this technique in xda. It's called a "minitool partition wizard home edition". U can create different number of formats all primary though. I used ext4 for a long time. But now I use ext2. The computer only recognises the first primary partition. So the ext2/4 will not be recognised by the pc and with the help of link2sd or data2sd U'll be able to use it as your internal memory if your phone memory is really tiny. It's related to performance but first its related to expanding your internal memory.
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I know . I am using link2sd but i want to format the whole sd card with ext4 because ext4 is faster than fat32 but if its not possible then i let it...
Sorry for my bad englisch...

ext4 partition

Hi,
is there a way to use my 16 GB internal storage and 64 GB external storage completely as ext4 ?
I have a linux based system on one of my PCs and it wouldnt do any problems for me. I just thought it would improve the speed of my storage.
There was an option for the motorola droid to use a ext4 partition as app space btut i want everything on ext4 when it would improove the speed of my fisk activities.
Using CM10 on S3.
PS: I found some threads but they are not for the S3
If i am not mistaken, Google has forced Samsung to use EXT4 on stock ROMs and AOSP ROMs which used YAFFS2, just as fast or faster and stable.
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