[Xperia S]{ICS} Does Bravia Engine work on your phone? - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

Simple question. Regardless of whether it worked in GB or not. Does Bravia Engine work on your phone with ICS
PLEASE ONLY ANSWER IF YOU ARE 100% CERTAIN THAT IT OR ISN'T WORKING, WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A COMMON FACTOR HERE.
PLEASE READ THE OPTIONS CAREFULLY.
1-YES! And I have NEVER Unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
2-NO. And I have NEVER Unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
3-YES! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
4-NO! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
Dpk1 said:
Also I would like at add to the above post, that by saying working/ not working BE the OP means only with PHOTOS or PICS viewed on your Xperia S (on ICS). It must be known to all that BE however works just fine for Videos/movies on ICS irrespective of BL status.
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technaudio said:
Simple question. Regardless of whether it worked in GB or not. Does Bravia Engine work on your phone with ICS
PLEASE ONLY ANSWER IF YOU ARE 100% CERTAIN THAT IT OR ISN'T WORKING, WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A COMMON FACTOR HERE.
PLEASE READ THE OPTIONS CAREFULLY.
1-YES! And I have NEVER Unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
2-NO. And I have NEVER Unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
3-YES! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
4-NO! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
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Also I would like at add to the above post, that by saying working/ not working BE the OP means only wrt PHOTOS or PICS viewed on your Xperia S (on ICS). It must be known to all that BE however works just fine for Videos/movies on ICS irrespective of BL status.
Btw, i voted for option 4.

NO! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.

technaudio said:
Simple question. Regardless of whether it worked in GB or not. Does Bravia Engine work on your phone with ICS
PLEASE ONLY ANSWER IF YOU ARE 100% CERTAIN THAT IT OR ISN'T WORKING, WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A COMMON FACTOR HERE.
PLEASE READ THE OPTIONS CAREFULLY.
1-YES! And I have NEVER Unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
2-NO. And I have NEVER Unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
3-YES! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
4-NO! And I have AT SOME POINT unlocked (or attempted to unlock) my Bootloader.
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Option 4: No, unlocked bootloader!
Don't forget to hit thank, if i deserve it!
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It works.
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We don't allow Q's to be asked in the general section.
But this seems to be a discussion to get members views on Bravia Engine, so I'm going ahead and removing the Q Tag from the thread's title. You guys can continue the discussion here.
Cheers !

I have 45 fw, rooted and de-bloated, locked bootloader.
BE worked on GB and has continued to work fine on ICS.
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how do you check this?

'cooleagle' said:
We don't allow Q's to be asked in the general section.
But this seems to be a discussion to get members views on Bravia Engine, so I'm going ahead and removing the Q Tag from the thread's title. You guys can continue the discussion here.
Cheers !
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Sorry! My bad.
I don't suppose it could be made sticky could it? It may help to possibly resolve this Bravia Bug that some are experiencing.

technaudio said:
Sorry! My bad.
I don't suppose it could be made sticky could it? It may help to possibly resolve this Bravia Bug that some are experiencing.
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This is a duplicate thread as we already have a thread where members are discussing on the same topic. I'm closing this thread & you can continue the same here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914364. You can also ask the OP to start a poll in that thread if you want.
Cheers !

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Some questions about bootloader and rooting

Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? Does this affect the updates in any way? If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
The main benefit of rooting your phone is you can install any software you want, some apps need root permission, you can also customize UI, tweak performance, making a better battery life, etc.
on this device, you can relock it. If you doubt about your warranty, you can use the rooting with locked bootloader method. but you still need to relock if you want to claim your warranty in some cases. I hope you will not.
my advice is just use to your phone first, you enjoy with keyboard, texting, surfing on google play, bla bla bla. You will find the answer why you want to root or not.
I already know that I want to root my phone, the main reason is to get rid of the ads.
I'm just not sure, which is the preferred method of rooting it. I'm curious what's going to happen to future updates if I root the phone (some say, that every firmware unroots the phone).
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Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything.1. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? 2. Does this affect the updates in any way? 3. If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
My opinion:
Keep the BL locked, so you don't loose the DRM Keys, and follow the Root with BL Locked Guide to obtain Root Acess...
Unless you really want to have a tweaked kernel you wont need to Unlock the BL
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
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Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
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Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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gm007 said:
Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
KlemenKosir said:
What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
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The advanced stock kernel is same as stock without overclocking,and default governor.
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So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
KlemenKosir said:
So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
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Yes. Pretty much that.
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Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
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I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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elvirag said:
I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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Well, for starters, I'm only going to root the phone. After some time, I'll maybe consider trying other ROMs.
Any ROM can be used in Locked BL (rooted)?

[Q] Xperia Ray not working properly after flashing and rooting. What to do?

Hello everyone.
I tried rooting my Xperia ray today using this guide: http://mytechencounters.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/root-your-xperia-phone-without-voiding-warranty/
Bear with me, you might find all of this tedious to read. My phone came with GB 2.3.4 build .62 which is hard to root. So as the above guide directed, I downloaded a .42 build firmware, CE(Central Europe perhaps? I don't know) and tried to flash it using flashtool. I disconnected the phone from the PC in between. My phone wouldn't boot. Then I used SUS and updated it to ICS, making the phone work. I then flashed it to GB .42 patiently, and with success. Alas, problems started immediately. Many processes such as media, calender storage, acro etc came up as stopped working. Even after selecting force close they would keep appearing. I cleared the respective cache/data and the notifications stopped. Then I rooted it using Doomlord's toolkit, and updated to .62 via OTA, keeping my root. A few things have changed. The keyboard name is the same, International keyboard, but it is different and I don't like it. Camera is not working. Screen goes blank if I open the camera. Messaging does not work and the messaging app crashes as soon as I open it. No contacts are found, despite importing them again. (They all show up when using the import from SIM option, it says importing is done but they are nowhere to be found). I called someone manually. While calling his name shows up but my contacts is completely blank. Google search is not working and it crashes too. There might be other problems, but I haven't checked. Anything in particular to check? Please help me solve all these issues. I'm glad my phone is rooted now, but it's next to useless due to all this. Please help me.
Great. Even the screen unlock security seems to not work. No slide to unlock. No pattern unlock even though I saved a pattern. I press the power button, the phone just shows the home. No security. How do I fix all this? PC Companion? SUS? And I don't want ICS so I won't use them if that's what they're going to update my phone to rather than fix it.
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
mihahn said:
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
Androman117 said:
Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
mihahn said:
No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
Androman117 said:
Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
mihahn said:
Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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For me it's better than gingerbread, but I don't often play games on phone, only somteims, but the games are going well :good:
The rom is only for unlocked bootloader and I didn't upload, but another member in development section did
No I'm not using any mods or tweaks, just sd maid to clean my sd sometimes, but jellybean is running smooth without any tweaks
Androman117 said:
Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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I think you have gotten a lot of good advice from Mihahn and I just wanted to add some suggestions before you unlock your bootloader...you probably want to get comfortable working with CWM Recovery. It has been a while since I did this on GB but there are a bunch of tools that you can use to put recovery onto GB stock roms and a good place to start is this thread in Ray Dev: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426912
Also before you decide you just gotta have a certain ROM, take a good look at the OP for the ROM....there may be something not working correctly that would be a deal breaker for you....there are some features that only work properly on a stock based ROM. This is particularly true of the Jelly Bean 4.2 build for the Ray....the 4.1 ROMs are working pretty good.....but if you absolutely love the sony camera app then you have to stay on a stock ROM.
Have fun!

Challenge to developers

This is an open challenge for all developers.
1) They cannot make a custom kernel in FTF format.
2) They cannot unlock the boot-loader in an unofficial way only through software.
zivalarasa said:
This is an open challenge for all developers.
1) They cannot make a custom kernel in FTF format.
2) They cannot unlock the boot-loader in an unofficial way only through software.
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You challenge devs?????
I have answers.
1. FTFs are actually from pc companion/sony dev website. They are signed by Sony and we can't modify it.
2. Well, the software is made that way that without an unlock key, you can't unlock the bootloader.
Anyone is free to add on to my answer.
If devs can't do it, why not you be the revolution for sony devices and create what you asked?
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AndroidNoob69 said:
You challenge devs?????
I have answers.
1. FTFs are actually from pc companion/sony dev website. They are signed by Sony and we can't modify it.
2. Well, the software is made that way that without an unlock key, you can't unlock the bootloader.
Anyone is free to add on to my answer.
If devs can't do it, why not you be the revolution for sony devices and create what you asked?
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First FTF is just zip archive used by FlashTool,SIN files are signed by Sony with private key and they cant be modified.
Second Bootloader hashes IMEI with PUBLIC KEY,with is then bootloader unlock key.Thats why you need to enter IMEI on Sonys site.
zivalarasa said:
This is an open challenge for all developers.
1) They cannot make a custom kernel in FTF format.
2) They cannot unlock the boot-loader in an unofficial way only through software.
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1. It is way easier to copy a flashable .zip into a phone flash via cwm than to go through the hassle of installing flashtool & loads of drivers (which doesn't work on Windows 8, BTW) to flash a ftf.
2. I challenge you to break the encryption of your favourite credit card company's payment service. This is similar to breaking the encryption (128bit ??) that Sony has put into its bootloader signing mechanism.
EASY WAY TO GET ur workk
hahaha
OP any last words?
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zivalarasa said:
This is an open challenge for all developers.
1) They cannot make a custom kernel in FTF format.
2) They cannot unlock the boot-loader in an unofficial way only through software.
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Well, just have a question
YOU CAN DO THAT?
Their something maybe now can't do, but no one promise it can't begin in the future, all about the time!
And I think this thread is useless cause your what challenge to the developers is just showing you didn't respect them with their hard work!
I apologize for anything I did cause I'm just showing my idea
This thread is useless !!
why challange DEVS ??
NO kind of sense this !
Complete agree bro @Pandemic
It's no-sense to challenge devs !
You were able to modify/create ftf on 2010 phones (something was unsigned I think)
Bootloader could be unlocked without key or being allowed to unlock on 2011 phones (by a hardware hack with some cables)
Andrewasth said:
You were able to modify/create ftf on 2010 phones (something was unsigned I think)
Bootloader could be unlocked without key or being allowed to unlock on 2011 phones (by a hardware hack with some cables)
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Well of course,but our device have better security also "hardware hack' does not work on 2011 Xperias for years.
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Well First of all I am extremely sorry for hurting all of you.
Secondly, The idea behind is that I bought Xperia SOLA from a giant store in my country. The box had written VodaFone over my SOLA packing. I asked the shopkeeper and he told me your Phone will be perfectly fine with local sim cards. I came home used SOLA for a couple of weeks and hell yeah, It was ****ing slow. I couldn't believe what I have bought. Then i went to XDA for a custom rom and guess what my bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked the official way though all sims and network operators are working. Now I started searching for ROMS for LBL and coudn't find the one that fast and stable at the same time. Out of desperation, I challenged the great developers to atleast make a FTF custom kernel for me that is impossible for now. Accept my apologies every body.
zivalarasa said:
Well First of all I am extremely sorry for hurting all of you.
Secondly, The idea behind is that I bought Xperia SOLA from a giant store in my country. The box had written VodaFone over my SOLA packing. I asked the shopkeeper and he told me your Phone will be perfectly fine with local sim cards. I came home used SOLA for a couple of weeks and hell yeah, It was ****ing slow. I couldn't believe what I have bought. Then i went to XDA for a custom rom and guess what my bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked the official way though all sims and network operators are working. Now I started searching for ROMS for LBL and coudn't find the one that fast and stable at the same time. Out of desperation, I challenged the great developers to atleast make a FTF custom kernel for me that is impossible for now. Accept my apologies every body.
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Good you apologized mate!
Our devs work so damn hard each and every day just to make our phones work perfectly. Thats no way one can challenge them.
I dont know wether i should be talking about this or not because i am not a dev or anybody, but, You respect them and you get respected back! Thats the one thing i have learnt from XDA!
There is no need to challenge a dev, if they dont didnt do what you are asking is because its not possible or its very hard to do. The devs here work everyday to give us great releases, you shouldn`t make this kind of thread challenging theme, i think its useless.
But anyway, you can use custom roms, but not kernel. You can root your device and get some speed and battery. It takes time but thats why xda is here, everybody learn a lot here and use lots of stuff in config and so on. So read, learn and try...
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Best ROM for Xperia SOLA LBL
So guys what according to you is the best ICS ROM for Xperia SOLA Locked Boot-loader ?
I tried Experience 2.1 by divaksh and its not that good. Although Divaksh did Awesome work. Its the Fone that is ****ing SLOW.
zivalarasa said:
So guys what according to you is the best ICS ROM for Xperia SOLA Locked Boot-loader ?
I tried Experience 2.1 by divaksh and its not that good. Although Divaksh did Awesome work. Its the Fone that is ****ing SLOW.
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Its not the issue with the ROM's..... its the device itself which has very low RAM.....
I know many other devices with 512 RAM working great but these NovaThor devices have some issues I guess.
Very True
I might be selling my SOLA if there is no announcement for KITKAT for it in coming few months.
This is downright ridiculous.
Thread closed.

Catch-22

So they are getting root for locked bootloaders over in the Z3 forum. I imagine it would work for our phones, except that to do that someone with an already rooted device would need to provide the info they need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
BladeRunner said:
So they are getting root for locked bootloaders over in the Z3 forum. I imagine it would work for our phones, except that to do that someone with an already rooted device would need to provide the info they need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
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You should probably study up a little before posting
thegrants82 said:
You shoot probably study up a little before posting
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Do you a have a point or anything constructively to add?
BladeRunner said:
Do you a have a point or anything constructively to add?
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No but obviously neither do you on bootloaders and rooting.
thegrants82 said:
No but obviously neither do you on bootloaders and rooting.
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Do you understand what I mean by a catch-22?
BladeRunner said:
Do you understand what I mean by a catch-22?
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I understand your post but you don't know what your talking about.
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I understand your post but you don't know what your talking about.
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I would say that you don't understand my post. They have found a root exploit for the Z3 (or at least certain variants of it at this point) which is exactly what we z3v owners are looking for, however for the devs to make it work for our phones someone with an unlocked boot loader and root would have to supply them with the info they need. Quite obviously we don't have an unlocked boot loader to get root hence the catch-22
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I would say that you don't understand my post. They have found a root exploit for the Z3 (or at least certain variants of it at this point) which is exactly what we z3v owners are looking for, however for the devs to make it work for our phones someone with an unlocked boot loader and root would have to supply them with the info they need. Quite obviously we don't have an unlocked boot loader to get root hence the catch-22
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Good luck.
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Good luck.
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:what:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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That's the problem here. He has no idea.
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That's the problem here. He has no idea.
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apparently you haven't been following the thread. Those that are developing the root method need the adb output from someone that already has root. Some of the Z3 variants already had root by unlocking the bootloader.
1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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The root method they are working on is for locked bootloaders, they need the output from someone that previously achieved root by unlocking the bootloader. It is beneficial on Sony devices to have root without unlocking the bootloader so you can save your DRM keys/back up the TA partion. Also rooting without unlocking doesn't disable some on the camera functions.
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apparently you haven't been following the thread. Those that are developing the root method need the adb output from someone that already has root. Some of the Z3 variants already had root by unlocking the bootloader.
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Lol I had two members msg me about how to add you to an ignore list. Didn't know about that so good luck to you and please stop posting about topics that you know nothing about. If you are wanting a high post count then just welcome new members. Judging by your posts I don't think its a secret that other members already know your deal. Later on!
thegrants82 said:
Lol I had two members msg me about how to add you to an ignore list. Didn't know about that so good luck to you and please stop posting about topics that you know nothing about. If you are wanting a high post count then just welcome new members. Judging by your posts I don't think its a secret that other members already know your deal. Later on!
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It's pretty obvious that you are the one that just doesn't get it.
1linuxfreak said:
You know doesn't make sense for someone to give adb output when, if, they already have root.
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not everyone would need to provide the adb output, just one person with the device. So, if by a miracle, one person had a z3v with an unlockable boot loader, rooted their phone and provided the adb output then they might be able to make the root tool work on the z3v's that have locked boot loaders, but since no one, afaik, has a z3v with an unlocked boot loader then we can't achieve root via the root tool. Thus the catch-22
BladeRunner said:
not everyone would need to provide the adb output, just one person with the device. So, if by a miracle, one person had a z3v with an unlockable boot loader, rooted their phone and provided the adb output then they might be able to make the root tool work on the z3v's that have locked boot loaders, but since no one, afaik, has a z3v with an unlocked boot loader then we can't achieve root via the root tool. Thus the catch-22
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Yeah I got the reference, if I had root so would everyone else here cause I would share it with everyone and claim the three thousand dollar bounty offered.
1linuxfreak said:
Yeah I got the reference, if I had root so would everyone else here cause I would share it with everyone and claim the three thousand dollar bounty offered.
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I suspect we won't have to worry about anyone collecting that bounty in the near future.
So I am npt that experienced when it comes to this stuff but im pretty sure verizon does NOT have an unlocked bootloader. I have the s4 and am looking into the z3v. I know people are still currently trying to break it. But the s4 can use towel root. Obviously its not that simple here since its not done yet. But seeing as this is still fairly new. They will have root sometime soon.
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If you had read the thread, there's no catch 22. The exploits they're leveraging were patched on the Z3v and TMo Z3 prior to release. It was stated multiple times.

Question Xperia 5 IV Model Decision - XQ-CQ54 vs XQ-CQ72

As someone living in the USA and using T-Mobile as a provider, is there a significant difference between the XQ-CQ54 and XQ-CQ72 models? If so, which one should I go with?
I will not be using the XQ-CQ62 (US version) because the bootloader cannot be unlocked and I would like to use a custom ROM.
You can unlock the bootloader on 62 but it cost about 20 bucks..its a recent hack ... Xda isnt allowing guides with money involved so that's why theres none posted here.
Other then that i think 54 version aka european is way better then chinese 72. Just for esim alone
viper. said:
You can unlock the bootloader on 62 but it cost about 20 bucks..its a recent hack ... Xda isnt allowing guides with money involved so that's why theres none posted here.
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Would you be able to provide a link to the service or at least a name for the website? I'd like to try that one but I'd also like to not download a virus.
I havent tried it but there are reports of it being a legit thing. I ll send you a pm so you can look into that thread.
Morcleon said:
Would you be able to provide a link to the service or at least a name for the website? I'd like to try that one but I'd also like to not download a virus.
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would love to hear about your experience with the tool
I have the US version and found out the hard way that its bootloader can't be unlocked. I've always had a rooted phone, BUT I would say this phone has everything that I want and need. And Android 13 now has features that I used root phones to get. On the flip side, I have seen people that have the 1 iv US version and they've used the mentioned tool, and were able to change the no to a yes. As long as Sony keeps pumping out updates, I'm good for now on stock, but I may revisit the tool if updates stop.
jonchance_84 said:
I have the US version and found out the hard way that its bootloader can't be unlocked. I've always had a rooted phone, BUT I would say this phone has everything that I want and need. And Android 13 now has features that I used root phones to get. On the flip side, I have seen people that have the 1 iv US version and they've used the mentioned tool, and were able to change the no to a yes. As long as Sony keeps pumping out updates, I'm good for now on stock, but I may revisit the tool if updates stop.
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Don't post nonsense. Bootloader unlock is possible.
Kevbodian said:
Don't post nonsense. Bootloader unlock is possible.
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All that I was saying is that I may be open to trying the "workaround" to enable bootloader unlock on the US version later on. Please explain to me how that is nonsense. Or if you know of a way to change the no to a yes on these locked down versions, I'm all ears.
I have the US version and found out the hard way that its bootloader can't be unlocked
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That's a pretty direct statement which is made up of nonsense.
No to yes and unlocking the bootloader is possible. See the thread about the so-54c or check my posts.
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That's a pretty direct statement which is made up of nonsense.
No to yes and unlocking the bootloader is possible. See the thread about the so-54c or check my posts.
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That's all you needed to say. I was only verifying that I ran into the same situation. I'll check out your posts, and read up. I haven't had an Xperia in almost 10 years, so I'm getting caught up.

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