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Hi guys,I bought a Xperia Mini Pro to my girlfriend.
Like my Xperia Mini has the worst touchscreen that I ever seen/touched.
Try to play Fruit Ninja is impossible,because the touchscreen lose your fingers.
If you draw a circle very fast with a paint app,it's lose your touch.
This is annoying when I navigate on the browser or scroll contacts and music.
Why no one has noticed this problem?
The only problem on your list that i noticed is with fruit ninja but the weird thing is that it's working well with the other app called fruit slice
That's the only problem i noticed about the touchscreen in 2 month of use (sk17)
otherwise I am quite satisfied.
I have Mini Pro (SK17i) and I still get nearly 1000 points in Fruit Ninja (Arcade Mode), not too much but I think it's not bad at all.
I advice you to download "Multi Touch Paint" and you will discover how malfunctioning this touchscreen.
Use this app in "Kids Mode" and made a continuos circle very fast.
In Xperia Mini there are some disconnects.
In Xperia Mini Pro the touch screen is crazy,because the pen is going where don't touch.
I dont know why are you having hard time with screens, but my Xperia mini works perfect, never had any problems with it
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peexl said:
The only problem on your list that i noticed is with fruit ninja but the weird thing is that it's working well with the other app called fruit slice
That's the only problem i noticed about the touchscreen in 2 month of use (sk17)
otherwise I am quite satisfied.
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Because Fruit Ninja use multitouch while fruit slice use single touch.
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I dont know why are you having hard time with screens, but my Xperia mini works perfect, never had any problems with it
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I send it to Sony Ericsson Support,I hope that they can fix it.
Using an (constantly under RAM pressure) X8 at the moment I unfortunately have to agree that touchscreen responsiveness is noticeably inferior on both the mini and the mini pro. I noticed when using the device one handed, i.e. operating the screen with the thumb. Fast scrolling is nearly not possible. We're not talking about performance here, the device ist fast. It is about the digitizer being unable to register quick flings over a short distance.
To visualize this I tried Kids Paint Free. It simply draws gestures with random colors for each stroke. This is perfect to determine whether the digitizer has lost the finger: if it has, a new color will be drawn.
I drawed a couple of QUICK vertical up-down flings of about one inch length each at about four strokes per second. The X8 registered these correctly and displayed them at the given length. The mini (and also a mini pro I tried at a local store) registered only at most half an inch of the movement. If you increase gesture speed even further, some are being registered as taps (resulting in a dot being drawn)!
This is exactly what happens when scrolling around: it feels laggy, because you can't input a certain length of fling in a short time, i.e. "give power to the scroll". Occasionally you might even end up with a false tap where you actually wanted a scroll.
Another test is to start on the upper right corner an try to fill the whole screen by diagonally wiping to an fro until you reach the lower left corner. This will even end up in the digitizer not responding until you lift the finger again. It was not possible to fill the screen in one long gesture! Again no problem on the X8.
I returned my mini yesterday for this very reason, it renders the device unusable to me. A real pity, given the otherwise good specs of it.
Now: have I encountered defective devices? Can anyboy confirm? Is there a parameter to set some kind of progression like with mouse pointers on a PC?
You phone might have problem with heating and navigation keys. Keys are connected to screen, so every time you hold you finger on the screen, keys may react by themselves. Send it to service if you have warranty.
Its very strange that you have screen issues... I have sk17i and also try st15 in store. Feelings just awesome,
sensivity and speed is very good. No lag or stucks at all time. Maybe you sould return that one for warranty
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I have the very same stupid problem, is there any fix ??
I also unlocked the bootloader and installed last CM Nightly and the problem still exists !
Nope. Doesnt have this problems on my SK17i. It only happens on your device. Your made topic sounds ridiculous
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My Xperia mini pro has perfect touchscreen mayb this mans on bad luck!!
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What do you mean by writing "Xperia Xperia Mini and Mini Pro have the worst touchscreen ever seen!" ?
I'm using sk17i for about 3 months and it just worked fine,well if u dont like sk17i buy another phone then,everything have positive and negative side.
If u cant live with sk17i,i recommend u to buy another phone
No offense,just saying
Touchscreen responsiveness Xperia Mini (Pro)
Hi all,
thank you for your input. Please don't blame the thread title, I didn't choose it and just didn't want to clutter the forum with another thread on the same topic.
Just for the right scope: my Mini did not overheat in any way, the two soft buttons worked perfectly. Also I'm not complaining about scrolling performance of the OS or the device. Once it scrolls, it does so smooth, lag-free and fast. I'm all about giving drive or momentum into quick (respectively short) strokes.
Please find two screenshots made with Kids Paint to illustrate what I mean. Sorry that I may not yet post image links. I'd be glad if anyone who is content with his or her digitizer performance could try the same on a their mini (pro)s. The APK is also attached.
Test case 1 (vertical flings):
Speed is absolutely of the essence. This screen has to be drawn in less than three seconds. There's no point in doing it slower, it will work. On the Minis I tried it was not possible to get the lines that long in the given time.
Test case 2 (screen fill):
Start at the upper right corner and fill the screen in one continuous stroke. Again, this has to be done in at most five seconds. I have not been able to do so, the Mini's digitizer lost my finger (new color drawn) and stopped completely reacting at about 3/4 of the screen.
I'd happily accept that I had devices from a defective lot and try another. I wouldn't invest time here on this issue if I didn't think that the Mini was THE phone for me (price- and spec-wise).
cmfan said:
Hi all,
thank you for your input. Please don't blame the thread title, I didn't choose it and just didn't want to clutter the forum with another thread on the same topic.
Just for the right scope: my Mini did not overheat in any way, the two soft buttons worked perfectly. Also I'm not complaining about scrolling performance of the OS or the device. Once it scrolls, it does so smooth, lag-free and fast. I'm all about giving drive or momentum into quick (respectively short) strokes.
Please find two screenshots made with Kids Paint to illustrate what I mean. Sorry that I may not yet post image links. I'd be glad if anyone who is content with his or her digitizer performance could try the same on a their mini (pro)s.
Test case 1 (vertical flings):
Speed is of absolutely of the essence. This screen has to be drawn in less than three seconds. There's no point in doing it slower, it will work. On the Minis I tried it was not possible to get the lines that long in the given time.
Test case 2 (screen fill):
Start at the upper right corner and fill the screen in one continuous stroke. Again, this has to be done in at most five seconds. I have not been able to do so, the Mini's digitizer lost my finger (new color drawn) and stopped completely reacting at about 3/4 of the screen.
I'd happily accept that I had devices from a defective lot and try another. I wouldn't invest time here on this issue if I didn't think that the Mini was THE phone for me (price- and spec-wise).
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Like i said,everything have a weakness
Like i said,everything have a weakness
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Maybe. Though I had expected SE to do at least as well as they did 1,5 years ago on the now outdated X8, wouldn't you?
Anyway, so does your comment mean your Mini Pro behaves the same way?
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Anyway, so does your comment mean your Mini Pro behaves the same way?
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My daughter's xperia mini pro behaves the same way:-( Fast swype movements are not registered or misregistered to clicks. The problem is worsening, when the phone is on the charger. Overall, I am not satisfied with it, I will exchange it to an experia pro.
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I have the same problem, and my touch buttons are not working properly either, and fast swyping is also terrible.
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I have the same problem with the screen. But is it case of warranty? Or just a feature in Apple style?
I havent face any issue yet
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hi ,
i am on android 4.1.2 leaked version
i purchased a mobile phone with broken screen and replaced it so it has been falled earlier i dont whether the magnetic sensor was working earlier or not
on android ics the autorotation feature was also not working and in jb it is also not working
before writing this thread i have already looked 50-60 of similar threads havings problems with different sensors and autorotation but didnt got solution anywhere
in *#0*# test under sensor everything is giving reading except magnetic sensor it is saying it needs calibration but where and how i dont know
if the hardware has fault in my phone than any one can please tell me where is magnetic sensor in the motherboard so i could do change it
under the motion>sesitivity in jb there is gyroscope calibration option in which its ball is not moving anywhere while moving the phone on the different axis but it is saying calibrated on putting it on flat surface and saying some file missing if we do calibrtion by putting phone in hands.........
in the application gps status each thing is showing readings only the magnetic field and the centre ball in the middle not moving
so is there is any real solution for this problem.............
irbaaz said:
hi ,
i am on android 4.1.2 leaked version
i purchased a mobile phone with broken screen and replaced it so it has been falled earlier i dont whether the magnetic sensor was working earlier or not
on android ics the autorotation feature was also not working and in jb it is also not working
before writing this thread i have already looked 50-60 of similar threads havings problems with different sensors and autorotation but didnt got solution anywhere
in *#0*# test under sensor everything is giving reading except magnetic sensor it is saying it needs calibration but where and how i dont know
if the hardware has fault in my phone than any one can please tell me where is magnetic sensor in the motherboard so i could do change it
under the motion>sesitivity in jb there is gyroscope calibration option in which its ball is not moving anywhere while moving the phone on the different axis but it is saying calibrated on putting it on flat surface and saying some file missing if we do calibrtion by putting phone in hands.........
in the application gps status each thing is showing readings only the magnetic field and the centre ball in the middle not moving
so is there is any real solution for this problem.............
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To ur last statement:
It seems like it's not working any longer, that's why the "ball" while calibration don't move.
After a few seconds it says calibrated because that it set the actual position as default.
That's why while a normal calibration u lay the phone on a table or kind of it - next time the point is in the middle of this position.
Hope this makes a bit clear why it seems to be defect.
Because changing anything in hardware, I can't give any reply, sorry.
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To ur last statement:
It seems like it's not working any longer, that's why the "ball" while calibration don't move.
After a few seconds it says calibrated because that it set the actual position as default.
That's why while a normal calibration u lay the phone on a table or kind of it - next time the point is in the middle of this position.
Hope this makes a bit clear why it seems to be defect.
Because changing anything in hardware, I can't give any reply, sorry.
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didnt get exactly
is hardware defect according to you????????????
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didnt get exactly
is hardware defect according to you????????????
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Yep for me it seems to be a hardware defect.
U just try to point out why
But anyway I can't help u then, sorry.
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if any one has repair solution for this than please let me know because i had visited the samsung service center and they are saying its motion ic has to change and the charges are 30$
so i am looking for a cheap way to sort it
Hi, i have had my tablet for about 1 week, straight after starting it up i had a fw update which is 17.1.1.A.0.402 which i am assuming is the latest?
anyway i have read a lot about the new fw was supposed to fix the touch issues?
I also have the z1 which i still have and is perfect. ive recently updated to 4.4.2 on that and all my issues are fine on there.
my z2 is acting very strange, if i leave it alone for a while sometimes i will go on it and everything on the screen will be frozen, i can't tap anything, i have to press the power button and then swipe to open it again, it is then fine after that.
also i have noticed, and i think its happening a lot when my tablet is a little angled using the case, the screen will be a bit jittery, where as my z1 is really smooth, and i also sometimes have to really tap icons a few times before they register.
i play clash of clans a lot and its been a bit difficult to play as troops aren't selecting as i am tapping on them.
has anyone got any advice?
I have done a factory reset to see if that would fix any issues from the fw update but its still exactly the same.
Thanks
James
anyone?
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anyone?
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I installed the new firmware yesterday. While I notice an improvement with the touch problem it's still present. Just install an multitouch app (like this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easylabs.multitouch), let your finger trail on the screen and it's definitely obvious (the number on the top right should be the number of fingers touching the screen and it's often not). I tried the same thing on my old Iconia A500 and that's the one thing where it's WAY better than the Z2.
I don't experience anything as strange as you do though, it's mostly usable and I hardly notice it with the new firmware.
I did experience something very strange just BEFORE updating with one specific charger and one specific USB cable , the tablet wouldn't register any touch at all while it's was plugged in. As soon as I unplugged it it would work. The cable was fine with another charger and vice versa;
Weirdest of it all:
This happened while I was testing the output current for each combination of cable/charger and this particular couple was the one giving the "best" results; consistently between 1.1A and 1.2A
I can't reproduce this behaviour with the new firmware. All in all, it's usable for me. Biggest bug would be it not charging while playing power consuming games.
I have found mine goes more weird when it goes to sleep and i then wake it up, the screens sensitivity seems to be terrible, i have topress the off button and then start it again then its fine.
it will then mostly stay fine until the screen times out again then the same thing will happen when i wake it.
James: Same with my 521...
Touchscreen response was REAL BAD after updating to .402, then it went better and better day by day; strange phenomenon.
I also occasionally experience some touchscreen "numbness" after waking up the table with a double-tap, sometimes touch sensitivity suddenly becomes quite low just without any reason; touchscreen has problems detecting touches near the screen corners or doesn't react to touches at all. Solution: Switch to standby, and back on.
At the same time, the Android symbols (Back, Home, last apps) again become difficult to hit.
You can test this by slowly swiping your finger up from the lower bezel towards one of the symbols: If the touchscreen is ok, symbols get highlighted right after your finger reaches the lower edge of the symbol. If the touchscreen malfunctions, you need to move your finger up to the center of the symbols to get them highlighted.
So it smells like a software issue.
Touchscreen problems usually occur two to three times a day of normal use; so I regard it as acceptable - but the problem still isn't fully solved.
I would say it's a hardware issue which Sony attempts to counterbalance with software patches.
Just like on the Nexus7 (2013). There sfhub released a touchscreen fix which made the problem bearable for most users (with some experimenting with different versions of the fix, because each device is different).
I wrote a PM to sfhub asking him whether he could disclose how his fix works so that Z2 Tablet users perhaps could apply a similar, variable, tailor-made fix to their individual device.
No response, unfortunately.
Perhaps some of you could send the same request to him, and perhaps then he reacts?
every now and then, after double tap to wake, the tablet is extremely unresponsive.
I also just sleep/wake up again via power button and it's fine after that.
So my but feeling it's a software issue, not hardware issue.
- Frank
I never had touch problems but after updating to the latest firmware, the tablet is unusable from time to time
what's annoying me is that Sony wont seem to admit that there is an issue, i was talking on their live chat to support and they said that's the first time anyone's mentioned that and isn't on any list of any known issues
Which doesn't fill me with confidence on how quick this may get fixed.
The speed in which is gets fixed may determine if i just send the tablet back to Amazon for a full refund, unfortunately i have bought the Sony case and magnetic charger now as well
I'm just really puzzled what to do, what can i do apart from sent it back if Sony wont even acknowledge they are aware of the problem and will release a fix soon
The only thing is because i have now bought the charger and case, i kinda want to keep it.
It was a direct replacement for my Z1 which i still have, and that is also updated to 4.4.2 now, but that shows no touch issues at all.
What's very interesting and revealing:
When Sony was addressed a few days ago regarding battery problems on Tablet Z and a few phones after the Kitkat update, they immediately reacted!
They readily explained that it is a problem with the Google Play Services running amok and that a fix will come.
But it seems that just because this here is a Sony problem (and not one for which another company can be blamed like in the above one), Sony simply doesn't react at all and obviously orders the service employees to lie and say that they haven't heard at all of a touch problem.
Boooo, Sony, shame on you!
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what's annoying me is that Sony wont seem to admit that there is an issue, i was talking on their live chat to support and they said that's the first time anyone's mentioned that and isn't on any list of any known issues
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HAHA ! Exactly the same in Germany. Even after talking about that issue with the SAME person three days in a row, I still was told the problem was totally unknown.
Later, I had a more private talk with one of the support guys. He revealed to me there was an order from Sony to tell callers exactly that.
Ah, as I thought.
This is abysmal behavior by Sony, period.
Also on the Sony support forum, none of the official support staff has replied to any of the topics about touch screen issues. It seems they are just completely burying their heads in the sand...
FW .402 didnt fix the touch screen issue. It is noticeably better than any FW from before.
Gosh, the touchscreen keep going back to home when i'm in a middle of fb conversatuion.
I was testing with chromecast +youtube: those swibe action to enlarge or fade out afe 99% imprecise...
Really wondering if I can return the item to amazon to fix this problem...
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Gosh, the touchscreen keep going back to home when i'm in a middle of fb conversatuion.
I was testing with chromecast +youtube: those swibe action to enlarge or fade out afe 99% imprecise...
Really wondering if I can return the item to amazon to fix this problem...
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Are you sure you're not just accidentally touching the home button while typing? That happens to me from time to time, which is a downside of having the navigation buttons centered compared to having them in the corner like on pre-4.4 Android tablets. I actually think Google should add a setting to choose if the navigation buttons on tablets are in the left corner, centered, or in the right corner. Having them centered also makes it awkward to reach these buttons when holding the tablet with two hands.
I did a search for "screen lag", but didn't find anything like what I'm seeing...
I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that works FINE (at least as well as most anything) with Helicon Remote. Had a charging problem and bought a Nexus 9. One of the things it has to do is work properly with Helicon Remote. HR takes the feed from the camera live view and lets you do camera control, select focus points, and so on.
Unfortunately, when connected to my Nikon D810, if I move the camera, only the far right edge of the screen updates. Then after several seconds, the rest of the screen finally updates. When zooming, you get the right edge updated, and tiles displaying and sitting and flickering on the screen. Again, after several seconds the screen finally updates.
Since it works fine with the Nexus 7, I presume there's some difference in the 9 that's having a problem. I don't know if Helicon Remote needs some update, or if its the tablet. I posted the problem to the Helicon Soft forum, but I suspect they're blocking posts that show problems 'cause it still hasn't shown up after a day.
I took some video showing what it does, and can post it if it's useful, but can anyone provide ideas for getting rid of the huge screen lag? Is it possible to change (reduce) the resolution of the Nexus 9 (presuming the problem is because of the higher resolution than the Nexus 7)? Or do I just mark this as a bad experiment and dump it back at the retailer where it was purchased?
Please note this is my first thread and not dwelling deep in to the techs of the phone.
Amazon kindly delivered my Xperia 10 Plus this morning and like a little child at Xmas, couldn't wait to unpack and power on.
Now my current status is I have been running on Xperia XZ Premium for last 18 months and decided to see what the deal is with the larger screen X10 plus.
First glance, it's tall, big a just a tad slimmer, suppose that'll be for the one hand use.
Installation of micro sd card and memory card a breeze and since I opted for the dual sim, the sim tray can handle 2 sims easily.
Pros
OS seems to be quicker but the boot up time isn't
Camera capture has improved compared to XZP and will need to check this tomorrow on daylight
The little widgets like side sense is a good way to use phone on handed
handset in one hand feels comfortable and very light but still purchased a case for the phone for the additional protection
Cons
Took a while to remove the google search bar on home screen as OS 9 seems to do this differently when it comes to removing (had to Google it)
Charging time does take a little longer in my experience but this could be down to battery care and stamina
You can't customise what screen is your home screen so if you have 3 screens, 1st screen is your home screen, This is issue for me since I like my icons/apps setup in a way makes to easier for me. Could possibly not be setting the home screen correctly
Had a strange issue with restore from my Google account and it placed two icons for each app downloaded so ended up factory reset and seems to resolve the issue
All in all, still early days as not much time to fiddle with the phone as I required to setup again and juggle the icons on home screen as sadly this didn't do on backup from old phone.
I'll add more comments when I have managed to play with the phone more.
Thanks.
Well, been a few days using the phone and so far had the following as issues or switched off.
1. Camera seems to crash twice on use where app opens but buttons doesn't respond until you have the crash notification. Albeit camera quality is very good compared to XZP.
2. Switched off the Swipe up on home button as it seemed to get messed up with me wanting to access all apps from swiping up from the bottom of phone.
3. As someone else mentioned before, games touch screen buttons not optimised as some games buttons are low right side and makes it very awkward to use when playing.
4. Couple of times you press an icon on app and doesn't seem to launch or takes a while to do anything. One app i remember is launching the messenger app for FB from the FB app. Did sod all and restarted handset to fix it.
I would take some quality pics but where I live is a bit trashy so nothing good atm and will wait for weather to improve.
Just hope others who have the same phone report on same issues for Sony to fix
anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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I think you need to open the Xperia Launcher settings. Just hold down your finger on one of the homescreens. The 2nd or 3rd option should give you the old navbar back
thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
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thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
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My bad it's in the display settings under advanced. "Swipe up on home button". Don't have my phone right now, had to send it in so i couldn't say for sure. Thought it was hidden quite well :/
perfect, thanks!
How's low light recording and pics ?
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
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Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
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Camera2 API Probe reported no.
I have no issues with my Sony Xperia 10 Plus after 4 months so far. It's fast and smooth in my use. I can take great pictures and videos. 21:9 experience is great and amazing!
How is battery life and sot?
I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
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I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
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Performance on XZ premium is better compared with Xperia 10 plus. Xperia 10 plus is sluggish en general use. I think there is a problem with the launcher optimization. The only way that i founded to acelerate the smartphone is to deactivating "Animations". After that, the Xperia 10 plus beahvior, results in a great performance, smooth. If you install a 3rd party launcher, the sluggish problem appears again. This phone definitively needs software optimization from Sony. I waiting android 10 fix this situation. I want to highlight that the sound quality from bluetooth is amazing, i thinl is better that xz premium, XZ2. I dont know if Sony increase the audio quality in this model.
I bought this phone yesterday from best buy and to me what a pile of junk, the screen just above the power button actually is separating from the plastic frame, I hear faint pop like sound and I start pressing on the edge of the screen I heard the sound again, on further inspection looks like the adhesive tape they must use to attach the screen to the frame is letting loose from the main frame, this thing is slow and very sluggish. I would advise people not to buy this phone, for the price..... you can buy a older flagship phone or even a oneplus 6t or 6 for less used and runs circles around this sony phone.