Hello everyone,I am new in this forum; just joined before 30 minutes. I am a HTC one x+ user (6 days and counting).
Lets move to the topic, i am an new android user as well . Used to have a Nokia C7 for about 3 years (it was awful).
My question is: i LOVE sense which is provided with the phone international version (as living in Dubai,United Arab Emirates), I feel that it's kinda laggy or heavy on the phone. Whenever i open the page that shows how much RAM i am using , i always see it's about 750ish to 800ish. I really don't know any single thing about phones nor how to adjust them to make it faster although i am good at computers.
My question is how can i lower my RAM usage as well i would like to know how i can get the nice looking software that nexus 4 got?
Thanks for reading and any help would be appreciated.
OH one thing before i go any information about battery usage with you guys (HTC ONE X+ users)?
Mroxogen said:
Hello everyone,I am new in this forum; just joined before 30 minutes. I am a HTC one x+ user (6 days and counting).
Lets move to the topic, i am an new android user as well . Used to have a Nokia C7 for about 3 years (it was awful).
My question is: i LOVE sense which is provided with the phone international version (as living in Dubai,United Arab Emirates), I feel that it's kinda laggy or heavy on the phone. Whenever i open the page that shows how much RAM i am using , i always see it's about 750ish to 800ish. I really don't know any single thing about phones nor how to adjust them to make it faster although i am good at computers.
My question is how can i lower my RAM usage as well i would like to know how i can get the nice looking software that nexus 4 got?
Thanks for reading and any help would be appreciated.
OH one thing before i go any information about battery usage with you guys (HTC ONE X+ users)?
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Welcome to the forum. Don't worry about occupied RAM on your HOX+. That's the way the Android OS is designed. Forget all what you are used to from Windows systems. Never kill app with the task manager to "free" RAM; it makes your phone sluggish and drains often battery. When is your phone laggy? If opening apps, if swiping between home screens?
BTW before you post next time search the forum first if somebody else has the problem you are looking for. It helps you finding the right answer and it helps keeping the forum organized.
Hello et welcome to xda board
This question asked many times in the HOX+ board and the answer is:
Android (as a system and specially the last versions) treat the RAM differently as from windows or ios or even symbian.
The android have 2 golden basic when treating RAM:
1. Free RAM = wasted RAM
2. More used RAM = More system stability and free of lags
And trust me, if you leave android treat the RAM alone (without use of 3rd party task manager or any ram manager app), you will never see your system out of memory even if used multitasking with 4 or 5 app in the same time (this is according to my personal experiences with 3 high-end android devices during the last 6 years)
And to answer your question about the battery of HOX+ also in this forum you will find may discussion about this subject but all depends on pure personal experiences and how they use their devices during the day, but for the 2nd time, for me with international device i found the battery time is amazing, with over 36 hours in mild use (call, check appointments and few emails), and 22-25 hours with mild use (call++, check emails++, check this forum, internet+, and another uses) and this is my case, or about 16-14 hours with heavy uses (games).
But at last it depends on your personal uses.
Thanks and welcome agains:thumbup:
Edit: it's clear that you have the answers to your questions before me .
So this is the main purpose (and for me i called it the spirit ) of this amazing forum.
Enjoy it
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mgymnop said:
Welcome to the forum. Don't worry about occupied RAM on your HOX+. That's the way the Android OS is designed. Forget all what you are used to from Windows systems. Never kill app with the task manager to "free" RAM; it makes your phone sluggish and drains often battery. When is your phone laggy? If opening apps, if swiping between home screens?
BTW before you post next time search the forum first if somebody else has the problem you are looking for. It helps you finding the right answer and it helps keeping the forum organized.
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Thanks very much for your help! Sometimes it laggs when playing games "mostly" and sometimes swiping between screens.
Looking forward to hear other people's reviews and comments! A question which makes me worried all the time, IS rooting important for a phone? ( yes i've red many threads) but i still didn't get the right answer. The other question is, is is good to change the ROM from sense to any other kinds of ROMS?
baha76_s said:
Hello et welcome to xda board
This question asked many times in the HOX+ board and the answer is:
Android (as a system and specially the last versions) treat the RAM differently as from windows or ios or even symbian.
The android have 2 golden basic when treating RAM:
1. Free RAM = wasted RAM
2. More used RAM = More system stability and free of lags
And trust me, if you leave android treat the RAM alone (without use of 3rd party task manager or any ram manager app), you will never see your system out of memory even if used multitasking with 4 or 5 app in the same time (this is according to my personal experiences with 3 high-end android devices during the last 6 years)
And to answer your question about the battery of HOX+ also in this forum you will find may discussion about this subject but all depends on pure personal experiences and how they use their devices during the day, but for the 2nd time, for me with international device i found the battery time is amazing, with over 36 hours in mild use (call, check appointments and few emails), and 22-25 hours with mild use (call++, check emails++, check this forum, internet+, and another uses) and this is my case, or about 16-14 hours with heavy uses (games).
But at last it depends on your personal uses.
Thanks and welcome agains:thumbup:
Edit: it's clear that you have the answers to your questions before me .
So this is the main purpose (and for me i called it the spirit ) of this amazing forum.
Enjoy it
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda premium
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Thanks so much sir! "Person learns new things every day" Now i can't worry about anythings at all. Next time i will search deeply in the forums to find my answers to my questions.
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im on a rooted phone. on accasion, i experience lags on my phone.. its annoying.. how do i eliminate them?
Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
Are there any specific situations that are lagging?
Well it depends on the parts of the phone. So many things cause lag.
First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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Well first you have to find what is causing the lag? What apps do you have running? Are you over clocked or undervolted?
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
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i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
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First of all, your CPU could be too slow, in that case you could (almost always) overclock it, so it runs faster.
NOT !!! if i do that, my battery drains big time, i aint gonna do that.
Secondly, the amount of RAM affects performance A LOT as well. As a fix you could try running less applications.
this is exactly what i do. i kill apps in task manager. and i also got advanced task manager installed.
And last, but not the least, some things cause unneeded stress on the cpu. You should really check the source of the problems.
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i wish there was a way to check for that.
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I would install an app to check how much of your memory is free. Sounds to me like you dont have much free memory so your phone has to kill processes to make room for anything you want to do. This takes time which could be causing your lag
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i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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its not the apps. and yes, im underclocked. but that isnt the reason for the lags because i overclocked and i still get lags. also, i dont want to overclock too much for the sake of the battery.
the 1st gen iphone is less powerful than my current phone, which is the htc inspire.. but it DOES NOT lag at all.. why is it that a 5 year old phone outperforms a relatively new phone?
i would say when i scroll through the home screen, it seems like the screens are struggling to scroll. and when i dial buttons on my dialer to move through the menu options on a specific call with those options. the proximity sensor takes a long time to light up my phone when i take it off my ear to dial on my dialer. the iphone, on the other hand, takes a split sec. again, why is a less powered phone smoother than a more powerful phone?
i wish there was a way to check for that.
i got lots of free memory. 326mb are used and 295mb are free.
also, i got to reiterate something i said before that deserves great attentiopn in the android community. why the hell is it that the iphone 1st gen outperforms my htc inspire which has a faster processor and more memory? this is really mindboggling. i have read many people complain about this issue before. and they use the old, 5 year old iphone as a benchmark. both phones are based on linux. i suspect that the filesystem of android is far different that that of the iphone. i think this is the problem. its not the phone, its the android o/s. its really sad that an old ass iphone kicks android in the ass when it comes to lags free and smooth scrolling.
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. Not to mention there are is alot less going on inside IOS then there is on android. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
If you need proof check out http://ipod.about.com/od/decidingwhichipodtobuy/a/iphone_chart.htm that compares og iphone with all others and see how the features and chips etc have changed...and that's in an iphone which is not as advanced as its similar priced android rivals yet iphone performance for newer handsets is worse than original even with faster cpu.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
Given you yourself said your phone slowed after messing with the kernel, the heart of the phone, isn't it better to restore original kernel to improve performance again or at least mention that issue in your post here?
Dave
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Couldn't agree more
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First off how do you know its not the apps? What rom are you running? Many things effect how fast a phone runs.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
As for the Icrap. IT is easy to make an OS run smooth on a single set of hardware. To be honest most dont really care how IOS runs. Every OS has its issues.
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1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
I have no lag on my phone what so ever
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no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
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A less powerful phone with an old os should be faster than a new phone with the newest os because the new phone has better screen res and clarity, lots of new features that use more ram and cpu, more technological features, many have powerful gpu's that do 1080p hd video etcetera and all that makes a huge impact on performance.
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thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
Another difference is the og iphone does not multitask but stops things when you interact with it which produces a smoother user experience whereas android does not work in the same way.
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exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
mistermentality said:
Just read a post where you said in another thread that your phone got slower after installing a different kernel but here you didn't mention that.
If you are experimenting with kernels and those kernels made it slower its not fair to then act as if your phone is a stock rooted android as posters need to know if you've messed with such vital part of the os in order to better reply.
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i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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its not the apps cuz i got few of them and theyre low memory. i'm running virtuous unity v2.39.
1st of all (and not to defend apple), the iphone is not crap. if that were the case, i wouldnt have made this thread comparing the lag-free iphone with the cantdroid. 2nd, people DO care about smoothness.. a flood of people have complained about the lagness in android. 3rd, its NOT easy to make an o/s smooth. if that were true, this thread and people's complaints wouldnt exist. also, its a fact that android in tablet and phone are very laggy.. especially when comparing ipad and iphone to it.
i also read that the file system of android has to be rebuilt from the ground up to make it as smooth as iphone.. this is very sad.
no offense, but i dont believe you, unless you got a no-sense launcher like launcherpro or 3rd party programs that make your phone "lag-free". i quote this cuz all the android phones i tested have lags or at least shudder when you flip through the panels in the home screen. the iphone doesnt have this problem.
thats not rue for at least 2 reasons. #1, the iphone 4 has a high resolution. and its smoothness is far greater than many android phones with lower resolution. and #2, its been discussed before from the devs that android is laggy cuz of its file system.
exactly my point, which makes ios far smoother than the android despite the specs.
i installed a unity v9 kernel and it slowed my phone big time. i removed it by restoring a backup. its now as smooth as before installing the kernel - thank god. but its not as perfectly smooth as an iphone, unfortunately, which i wish it was.
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OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources. Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
Try rebooting. Always helps.
I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
Dave
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zelendel said:
OK first your running software that was not built for your phone. It was built for another then ported over. Sense has been known to lag. As for not many apps you are wrong as you are running sense so that in itself is using alot of resources.
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
Second my thought on the iPhone is that it is crap. Nothing more then a beginners smartphone. You can say its not and your have the right to your opinion.
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its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
From all of your posts you maybe better off with an iPhone as that seems to be what you want. Remember android is mainly targeted to people like developers and phone geeks that know what is going on under the hood and know how to tweak their OS to fit them.
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i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
As for my set up yes I don't run Sense. I am running a custom ICS rom. And no it doesn't lag. But then it doesn't have sense eating up the resources for no good reason.
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yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
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really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
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I have to agree with the sense comment, its notoriously slow even on some devices its designed for so can only imagine how bad it is on a device its not intented for.
Before you put custom rom on was the phone very laggy? My lg is smooth and is stock gingerbread with a delay upon opening some apps or if I have many apps open it can take time for other apps to initially respond but other than that I haven't got issues like you describe.
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yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
The problem with many roms is they are a wip so you can get lots of issues with them. If you have same issue with a stock rom then I would say an app manager would be useful so you can configure the auto start permissions as maybe it could help you.
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hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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i got to disagree with you cuz before i installed virtuous unity, the phone was still shuddering a bit as i flipped through the panels on the home screen. and no, you asked me about apps, not resources.
its not..if the iphone were crap it wouldnt be smoother than android and it wouldnt be the best selling phone on the market now. also, complaints about android smoothness abound the net. i havent read about the same issue with iphone. and lastly, another person on this thread agrees with the lagness on the android.
i think youre better off with a laggy phone cuz that what it seems you like for some unknown reason. remember that iphone is mostly targeted for people who dont want to be frustrated with issues and who dont fool themselves into thinking that their phone is perfect. and trust me, if the iphone didnt have a small screen i wouldve left android a LONG time ago.
yeah youre probly on MIUI. its a good rom from what i seen. i'll try a launcher like launcherpro and forget about sense. and i was thinking about turning my phone into an android phone 7. but if i do that, i probly run the risk of draining battery.
i'm a bit interested in MIUI but from those roms ive seen, they look butt ugly.. maybe you can recommend some MIUI for my htc inspire and themes that look cool.
really?? wowww.. you saved my life. anywayz..
yes my phone was laggy before i installed the cutom rom.
hi mistermantality.. thank you for the comments. can you recommend an app that kills the auto start permissions on apps like you mentioned?
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that. You UC the CPU and you should expect things to run slower.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
Some apps also start just because you change from wifi to 3G etc and again you can configure these apps in the same way.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
I love my android phone, I can watch a high def 3D movie on it while downloading isos or music and I can play games on it and do photo editing etcetera so I am biased toward it but ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
Dave
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Ok first no I am not on MIUI. I would never touch it. I dont support stealing someone elses work. I am running a version of a CM rom done up by my team. You may have seen some of the roms from the Collective.
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how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
The iphone is the best selling phone because it is simple. Most people dont want to mess with their phone. If you think My phone lags you are sadly mistaken.
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no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
You say MIUI is butt ugly but it looks just like the Iphone
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you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) can you list a few cryogen roms that are best for battery and performance?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
Now there are many things that can be done to help your phone. First would be to look for what is starting up on boot. Android assistent is a good one. Could try OC. I know you said you UC to save battery and I understand that but what do you expect to happen when you try to run it like that.
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no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
Comparing Android to IOS is like comparing a Mustang (Android) to a Kia (IOS) One is meant to be tweaked and adjusted the other is just meant to be used.
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you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
As for IOS being smother what do you expect? IT has alot less going on. No widgets to update, no multi tasking and no apps updating in the background.
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exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
Now through all your posts you have come across rude out of the gate. Let me give you a bit of advice. Relax man its a phone. No need to be rude.
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i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
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Android does have issues, it's not perfect but ios has less things to handle so it should always be smoother.
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i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
If someone's having lag just flicking between screens in a launcher then there's something very wrong.
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and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
A replacement launcher can help, and configuring apps so they won't autostart will mean they will not start automatically which leaves more ram free. Use an app like gemini app manager from android market to do that.
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i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
A program like setcpu can come in handy to improve cpu responsiveness from sleep state to waking for example but if the original stock rom was laggy it may be a faulty phone as not had homescreen lag like that.
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its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
ios isn't rubbish its just not as feature rich but that also makes it smoother and at times less complex and therefore for some is a better option.
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i totally agree.
binlad said:
how are you stealing someone's work by installing miui? i came across works by the collective.. its ok.
no, the iphone is the best selling phone cuz of its originality that android has copied. youre phone doesnt lag cuz its not sense based.
you didnt post any links to themes like i asked. i'm thinking about installing either miui or cryogen. here are my questions to you about this:
1) can you install launcherpro and desktop virtualizer on a miui and cyrogen?
2) can you also turn it into an android phone 7 with these o/s's?
3) can you install any android app?
4) hows the batt life and performance on both miui and cryogen?
5) which is better? miui or cryogen?
6) what are the pros and cons of miui/cryogen compared to sense?
no, i think the best thing now is to install miui or cryogen. i'd like to know which is better for battery and performance though.
you making the comparison of an iphone (kia) to a mustang (android) makes you look like einstein's opposite. when you make comments like that it makes me question your credibility as a mod, with all due respect. everyone knows iphone is smoother and therefore faster than android. anyone can see that.
exactly my point. but no, thats not entirely why iphone is smoother. its the file system structure that android lacks that makes it smoother. but youre also correct in that theres less background noise on ios.. but again, the primary reason is the file system.
i havent been rude. its just that when i correct you with proof about this issue, youre quick to dismiss them, despite the proof. within your comments, you embed subtle disrespect. chill out dude and understand that youre fighting over a piece of metal called a phone. there are more things in the world worth fighting over than a phone.
i agree and disagree. both o/s's are linux based. but the file structure of iphone is different from android. thats why there are lags in android.
and that something wrong is called android. just look at the lag of a tablet compared to the smoothnes of an ipad and see the difference.
i will use launcherpro and desktop virtualizer.. but only if they work on miui and cryogen - i'm thining about installing either o/s's. and i tried to install gemini app manager, but the market said my htc inspire isnt conmpatible with it, which makes no sense whatsoever.
its in no way a hardware issue since i've tested out other phones of the samemodel.
i totally agree.
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Android copied IOS? Really please do tell me how? Mainly as IOS took things from android like the notifications system. As for MIUI I explained in your other thread about why. I really think you need to do a little bit more research on what your doing. The questions you are asking about installing apps is android 101.
Now After Selling cellphone and plans for the past 10 years I think I know what sells an OS and what doesnt.
You are not correcting me. You have shown me no proof about IOS. You can say its better and I can say its not. It is all about what someone wants and needs. Like I have an old 4G that my GF used as a starter smartphone that lags and sits in a drawer. No OS is perfect so there is no point in arguing about it.
Your right my phone doesnt lag due to being sense less. Not to mention over clocked to 1.2 with 30 hr battery life.
As for what are the pros and cons of each. There are many to each. Doing some research will give you all the info you know.
Now you really seem not to like Android and will never be happy with it. Nothing anyone can do or say will be able to make you happy.
Remember this is a development site so you are expected to put in a little work, like search and reading. No I will not link you to themes that are easy to find. We dont spoonfeed here.
As for me comparing the cars to the OS it is very accurate. Android is made to be tweaked and messed with. If you cant see the diff then I am sorry. Trying to insult people is really kinda pointless. Mainly when your the one asking for help. Let alone insulting someone that has been modding phones long before you knew what modding a phone was.
As for installing other OS on android. The simple answer is no. The only phone that can dual boot Different OS is the HD2 and other WM devices that can boot android.
So here is what I will say. Try them all out and make up your own mind. Now one will be able to tell you what you like and what will work best for you. Android is about tweaking and making it your own.
Buy an iPhone and stop playing dumb. You clearly do not understand, and do not want understand a single thing.
Hi guys, I am Syed Ahsan Ali Gardazi from Pakistan. Heard of this site from a friend of mine he said you guys could help.
I am really new to this Android business, so I have a Galaxy s II, with Android 2.3.5 and its model is GT-I9100T. I wanted to know that should I upgrade my android software to 4.0 or ICS? Will the apps of later versions work on the current version. Is there any difference in power or RAM consumption? What is the most optimum Android software for GS II?? And it would really help to know some good apps for the device, useful apps not games and stuff (God knows I have enough of those ). In general I want to stay up with the world and I also want the optimum for my mobile but I don't wanna slow it down.
Please I am in dire need of help!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
Stop *****ing and try reading...
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Dude search first before posting a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046748
Also note that u have a i9100T...so read before flashing I9100 stuff
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Gardazi said:
Hi guys, I am Syed Ahsan Ali Gardazi from Pakistan. Heard of this site from a friend of mine he said you guys could help.
I am really new to this Android business, so I have a Galaxy s II, with Android 2.3.5 and its model is GT-I9100T. I wanted to know that should I upgrade my android software to 4.0 or ICS? Will the apps of later versions work on the current version. Is there any difference in power or RAM consumption? What is the most optimum Android software for GS II?? And it would really help to know some good apps for the device, useful apps not games and stuff (God knows I have enough of those ). In general I want to stay up with the world and I also want the optimum for my mobile but I don't wanna slow it down.
Please I am in dire need of help!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
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You should see this post before updating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1511578.html
I updated my GT-i9100 to ICS (ice cream sandwitch) a.k.a android 4.0.x a few days ago and all my apps remained intact. Still some of them did not work anymore. Like "loops". I tried to reinstall it and it said cannot install on usb drive or sd card. I found a simple solution googleing it. Just unmount the sd card and install the app, it will work, then you can mount the sd card back. It must be a 4.0.3 issue.
You could try flashing 4.0.4 or even jellybean 4.1. If you find it works for your model.
So i havent found any app that does not work on this new version. Except for iHelicopter which has a 1 second delay on sending the control commands to the helicopter, so i cant really use it anymore, but i guess its the developers fault.
About the performance... i would say that its a lot better. A game called crime city runs a lot smoother now for example.
You should try the go launcher ex, which i use, or maybe other launchers instead of the tw launcher.
Root your phone and install super manager and os monitor or some other app of this sort to see what really goes on in the backround like running services. That way you can uninstall apps or disable services that you dont need and uselessly consume power, then you will have a fair battery life. I only have ics for a few days now and i cant really compare the battery life yet, but i dont see any drastic change.
And about the ram: unused ram is wasted ram. If you exit apps they remain in ram in sleep mode they dont consume power, but on reopening they save some startup energy needed.
Other cool apps:
Hackers keyboard
Pudding camera
Android sensor box
Sensor music player
Flashlight
Google sky
Nasa
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Thanks guys
Thanks alot guys you were great help specially you Frank, you sorted out all my problems so this morning I rooted my phone and installed android 4.0.3 on it and I love it. Its awesome. There was no differemce in the apps just the whole outlook changed. Loved almost all the apps you posted but i have a wee problem with the sensor music player: I type horizontaly and so all of a sudden music turns on. I saw that my RAM went from 250 mb to 330 when i am not using any stuff. Also I felt that the battery consumption only rose a bit. Thankn you guys you were real help. Cheers.
P.s I am a star gazer too : ): ): )
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Hi,
I've read that KitKat would need less resource compared to JB.
Since there are already ROM's based on JB for the Legend, do you think that a custom ROM will rapidly appear based on KitKat for this phone?
Thanks.
No.I don't think there are any developers left on this forum.
I too believe this won't happen, sadly. JB for Legend wasn't such a good idea, it simply can't run smoothly on that device. But, if what google says is true (about the hardware requirements), then 4.4 could be the greatest thing that has happened to this phone in a while. I still use my Legend as an mp3 player, but i would just love it if it was more functional, so i could use it in some high-risk situations (to avoid breaking my GN4). This could be Legends last chance to die with honor
Personally I have the Baked Blackbean Rom on my Legend (JB thus) and I'm rather satisfied of this Rom (thank you to the team BTW).
It lags a bit and there are some bugs but it allows me to play with the latest versions of the apps (I love the latest version of gmail for example).
Give it a try if you haven't already. The Legend deserves a better end than as a mere MP3 player .
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Personally I have the Baked Blackbean Rom on my Legend (JB thus) and I'm rather satisfied of this Rom (thank you to the team BTW).
It lags a bit and there are some bugs but it allows me to play with the latest versions of the apps (I love the latest version of gmail for example).
Give it a try if you haven't already. The Legend deserves a better end than as a mere MP3 player .
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I'm also using JB on my Legend, but it is not really that stable (don't get me wrong, congrats to the developers, they did a great job), but it just feels too "heavy" on the phone. My biggest problem was the low amount of internal memory - yes, i know you can create a partition on the sd card, but i've never managed to accomplish it. Tried everything, just wouldn't work. So I really can't use the latest app version, as i can have about three apps installed at a time xD
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. The app that launches 10 sec after you put your finger on it...
For the internal storage, I use Link2SD, which actually works pretty well. When I check, it tells me that I got something like 280MB in use and still have 70MB free.
I just created like you said a second partition (using a soft [named Mini-Tool if I remember correctly] in Windows while my phone was plugged in USB) and then using this second partition to install my apps.
Are you interested in trying again ? You have another phone but, anyway...
I've been part of legend community for about 2 years now, never got into full blown deving, rather doing relatively small mods, tweeks and stuff for personal use only (read, cutting my teeth with android).
Activity in legend has unfortunately died over the past 3-6 months and I haven't seen much from our last major Dev zeubea for long time, so unless there is a skilled Dev equal or better than zeubea out there that loves the HTC legend, its not going to happen. Even then given that jb version never really got finished to stable version, I very much doubt KitKat would come anywhere near the level that jb reached simply due to lack of source code for the required harware drivers...
Ya never know your luck in a big city...
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Well, let's hope such a developer exists than...
KK has been ported to the HTC Desire so there's hope
and sorry to hijack, but is anyone willing to test some gapps? Would be appreciated, cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47101145&postcount=204
Ah cool! That's indeed a good news!
Thanks for the info.
KK was said to be optimized for devices with 512 MB+ RAM via Project Svelte. The Legend unfortunately doesn't even have that much.
But, I ask, why would everyone ideally want to have their Legends running Android 4.x? I don't understand why because although Gingerbread is now running on less than half of all Android devices, it was the last OS on our phone to run fluidly and with stability. With JB and above, Google's cramming more and more features into Google Play services, which really brings down the space the Legend has in its internal memory for apps. KK just won't run like Google intended to on this device. I just don't understand why people want the latest and greatest on a ~4 year old device. Maybe you have your reasons, and I'll respect that, but I can't think of any reason why personally.
It hurts to say, but with the Legend nearing four years since announcement, this phone isn't worth being developed for anymore. It wasn't that huge of a hit, like the original Desire or the Sensation. Therefore, it tends to be more forgotten. It doesn't have the computing power of neither of these devices, nor does it even come close to it, so while the aforementioned devices are slowly getting the bleeding edge, we'll be getting it slower, if at all.
It's a harsh reality, but if you want the best experience in Android possible, it's time to upgrade. ~Four years, that's around two two-year contracts. For Legend owners in Canada, your contract should have been up just this past summer.
This phone will always be a classic, guiding HTC through its brilliant design language with the HTC One flagship and its variants. Its legacy is shown on the devices that succeeded it. Unfortunately, I don't believe it has anything more to bring.
Hi Asovse1,
Thank you for your opinion.
You're right when you say that 4 years are an eternity for a smartphone but personally right now I can't afford a new device that would have for example the screen quality of the Legend (which has an amoled screen while even recent phone still use LCD). If I buy a new phone around 99 $ (my budget) I would have a screen with a poor resolution so the change is not worthy.
I have a JB Rom on my Legend and I can enjoy the last version of GMail for example that has really cool stuff. And this version of gmail runs rather smoothly on my phone, so why not ?
The Legend doesn't have 512MB RAM, for this reason he wasn't supposed to support ICS, but it worked, so while it works with the new version of Android, I will hope that a talented developer will build a Rom for this fantastic phone .
Or maybe I can wait just a few days ans see what the Moto G has to offer...
Cheers.
Hear hear, someone in the same boat as myself. Still using my Legend for daily use. I am on CM7.2 stable. Only GPS is not reliable. Tried a lot higher roms, never worked out well.
I am looking into importing a Chinese phone. Nice specs and an affordable price. Only risk is a broken phone within 2 years...
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Hi Wim,
Have you ever tried the Baked one as I mentioned earlier?
I have it on my Legend and use it daily without any problem. And the GPS works too, even if sometimes it needs some time to find itself, once it's done, it works perfectly.
Hello there,
I have great news for all the fans of the Legend: it might get KitKat !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905588&page=28
Let's cross our fingers !
Cheers!
It's been 5 years, any news?
As in title. Running atm stock 5.1.1 with elementalx kernel ( tried going back to stock one ). At best get 5 h SoT but mostly 4 ( from what I can see people get on average 7-8 hours. Tried clean flashing it once again, tried lollipaloza ( meh ). In addition to that I think the performance of my N9 is pretty weak ( gets laggy on home screen, switching between apps, some games ). Any suggestion about fix ( maybe matter of ROM or kernel? )In worst case scenario will probably just send it back to HTC service.
Cheers
SOT is very dependant on what else is going on with your device. I seriously doubt there is anything wrong with your device and I wouldn't waste your time or HTC's returning it. Those who are getting longer time are doing the following:
Location off
Touch sounds off
Screen dimming on manual and low
To name a few
Google battery life xda. There are many threads on how to get better battery life on XDA. Kernels and roms are not magic bullets.
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SOT is very dependant on what else is going on with your device. I seriously doubt there is anything wrong with your device and I wouldn't waste your time or HTC's returning it. Those who are getting longer time are doing the following:
Location off
Touch sounds off
Screen dimming on manual and low
To name a few
Google battery life xda. There are many threads on how to get better battery life on XDA. Kernels and roms are not magic bullets.
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Those are screenshots taken 1 min ago of my battery.
http://imgur.com/a/9sH1B
The battery isnt the biggest problem thou ( as long as it keeps 1 day on 1 charge its k for me, ofc would love it to be around 7-8 hours instead of 4.5h ) the biggest problem is my experience about performance of my N9, even thou it is supposed to be much more powerfull device than N5 it just does not feel at least as smooth as N5. It feels way more laggy than N5. Maybe this is how N9 rolls. Does yours N9 like have 2-3 sec delay after pressing home button to return to main screen? boot up 2 mins + ( everytime )? 2-3 sec delay after oppenning apps? You bassiclly feel like it is choking with simple tasks such as returning back to home screen. Cause on my N5 all of those things are instant thats why I am wondering whats a problem here.
1. Gonna try disabling location ( most of time it was on GPS only )
2. I've got touch sound off straight after took it out of box ( it annoyed me )
3. Well my screen is most of a day on like 15% of brightness and when I am in a bed it is min
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I have to ask about custom ROMs at this point. I have a Nexus 6 running stock T-Mobile firmware and it runs amazing. Very responsive...I rarely if ever touch the screen and then feel like it locked up. The N9? Not so much. I've run stock 5.x.x and I'm running the 3rd M Preview right now, and I can't say I am seeing any improvement. M seems no better or worse, except with sleep battery drain on M, which is awesomely small.
I find that the WORST app on the device is Chrome, no matter what version (stable/beta/dev). It is just touch, then wait for SOMETHING to happen. Even the loading circles and often the bottom nav bar stuff goes unresponsive. Multitasking can take several seconds to switch or start an app. It's just a stuttery, freezing mess. I don't know at this point if it's that stock Android just sucks on the N9, or the nVidia 'denver' experiment is just a total fail. To answer a common rejoinder: I have wiped the device several times and see the same crappy stuttering/lagging/freezing on a newly reset tablet.
I'm wondering if people who were in my circumstances found salvation with a custom ROM and/or Kernel. If so, is there a 'favorite' out there for compatibliity, speed and stability? Do these ROMs for the N9 truly solve the atrocious unresponsiveness of the device? I honestly don't even give a crap about battery drain at this point. I'd rather have a tablet I have to recharge all the time than one I don't even want to pick up because I can tap the screen and then go do something on my Nexus 6 while waiting for the Nexus 9 to unfreeze itself and consider doing the thing I just asked.
Any advice would be useful. I'm okay with going back to a 5.x custom ROM at this point. I am looking forward to Marshmallow, but it hasn't really solved my complaints against this tablet.
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Just found it while flicking through Q&A posts in N9 section . This is exactly what I experince.
wojwem19 said:
Those are screenshots taken 1 min ago of my battery.
http://imgur.com/a/9sH1B
the biggest problem is my experience about performance of my N9, even thou it is supposed to be much more powerfull device than N5 it just does not feel at least as smooth as N5. It feels way more laggy than N5. Maybe this is how N9 rolls. Does yours N9 like have 2-3 sec delay after pressing home button to return to main screen? boot up 2 mins + ( everytime )? 2-3 sec delay after oppenning apps? You bassiclly feel like it is choking with simple tasks such as returning back to home screen. Cause on my N5 all of those things are instant thats why I am wondering whats a problem here.
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Yes, everyone experiences this unless they only have the stock GApps installed and nothing else. Eventually the device will become laggy like that after a week or two of a fresh flash of the Nexus images.
It is in my humble opinion that it is not software, but a hardware issue. The device has a 64bit CPU and 64bit OS. That in it self is a good thing, but coupled with the fact it only has 2GB of RAM is where the issue lies. If the N9 had 3GB of RAM we would not be experiencing these issues.
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Yes, everyone experiences this unless they only have the stock GApps installed and nothing else. Eventually the device will become laggy like that after a week or two of a fresh flash of the Nexus images.
It is in my humble opinion that it is not software, but a hardware issue. The device has a 64bit CPU and 64bit OS. That in it self is a good thing, but coupled with the fact it only has 2GB of RAM is where the issue lies. If the N9 had 3GB of RAM we would not be experiencing these issues.
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Yea, you are probably right. Just wanting to add my 2 cents. I've followed some of the advice found here on XDA. A lot of people recommended switching to Dirty Unicorns. So did I. Must admit that it rotated my experience by 180°. My N9 finely feels smooth.
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Yea, you are probably right. Just wanting to add my 2 cents. I've followed some of the advice found here on XDA. A lot of people recommended switching to Dirty Unicorns. So did I. Must admit that it rotated my experience by 180°. My N9 finely feels smooth.
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There are customs ROMs on many devices that can give you some visual *tweaks* to give the illusion of faster performance. When it comes down to the bottom line no ROM can add a GB of much needed RAM.
I'm not picking on the N9, I love the device and there isn't another tablet I would rather purchase. Google said they were not making a 2015 Nexus tablet which is fine by me, but it would have been nice to come out with a 2015 of the N9 with 3-4GB of RAM...
Hey Guys
Need a fast, tiny and clean launcher, anyone can give me some hints? I`ve tried Action launcher, it seems alright btw. No apus&nova please.
Thanks so much and really appreciate for your advice!!!
Google is your best friend when it comes to this subject, I have been looking for a launcher with the most customization options, so I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum your looking for, there are endless sites that have reviews of all the Android launchers. I have found a lot of random launchers by reading through all the comments people leave on the review sites. With a Lil bit of R & D, you'll find something that fits your needs buddy!
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Google is your best friend when it comes to this subject, I have been looking for a launcher with the most customization options, so I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum your looking for, there are endless sites that have reviews of all the Android launchers. I have found a lot of random launchers by reading through all the comments people leave on the review sites. With a Lil bit of R & D, you'll find something that fits your needs buddy!
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Thanks man! So i used to go with all kinds of launcher, gosh i`ve tried at least a dozen launchers so far i quite go along with Action Launcher. Actually i`ve been testing all the ones with customization and creatives with different devices, while it turns out to be not every laucher go well with all devices esp those low-end devices.
That's for sure majority are impossible to use on low end devices, I had kyocera slide, and I couldn't use any of them cause they hogged so much ram and memory, had a HTC desire 610 for a bit and it could barely run majority, which was a shame, I really like the "next 3d launcher" has great themes and one of a kind in the 3d area, at least that I have found, I had an iphone 4 for what seemed like ages, until I saved up the money to get my LG G3, which can run pretty much anything, now I have gotten into the custom roms and the TWRP recovery, and some if the roms, with out all the bloatware and all the Google Apps that are pretty much useless for me has made the world of difference. If you are a Lil tech savvy, I recommend rooting and custom roms if any are available on your device, nothing else root and delete the obsolete apps on your phone. Even disabling everything ya don't use can make a noticeable difference in performance.
Google now launcher
God of War™ said:
Google now launcher
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or nova launcher..its pretty good
Hi all ,thanks for your replying, to be honest , me and my team are working on an android launcher project after we trying out all kinds of launchers. One thing that interested us is, most people would care more about the simpleness, easy to use and less RAM consumptions rather than creative&classical design.
And this is the survey we`ve taken from around 50 ppl around the world
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MS6SZ3X
(I`m much obliged if you can take 1 minute to participate as well
As you know there are still many more users who couldn`t purchase a high-end device, which means for those low-end devices, easy. small and handy is the key features they`ve pursuit.
So considering of that, we want to devote all efforts to present a ultimately most light-weight, with lowest ram consumption Launcher. And by using it you can not only experience the same features& as others, we can help you to shut down those unnecessary running apps that may slow down your device speed. And yeah, it needs your phone rooted at first. So how do you think?
If you are still looking for one
Evie
ASAP launcher