There and back again: A GB tale - Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro

Folks, after a long time playing around with all kinds of roms and kernels, i´ve downgraded my phone to gingerbread again.
You know, first i´ve tried the alphas of cm 9.0, then stock ics, them cm 9 again, and so on... with lots and lots of different roms, kernels, basebands and everything that comes with them, and every time i flashed a rom i saw new features and eyecandy, but in the end, my phone was not responsive as it was in the begginig, even with all the sony bloatware, and lots of apps just didnt work anymore, mainly games.
After all this i thought of comming back to the roots... good ol´gingerbread! of course, with a custom kernel and a modded rom, but roots anyway.
And i really don´t regret it... i think jb is just an amazing operating system, but lets face it, we dont have the resources on our brave little neo to run it properly, i just think without more ram( or a proper kernel) is just laggy and slow, altought we can get a little bit fooled by the ui. just wish the browsing in gb would be better, and the ui not so rough around the edges, but in the whole experience is a lot better. in jb it was lagging even to make a call! and i´m not a complete noob in this affairs, the phone was pretty much optimized, but even so, not as good as i hoped.
Anyway, just my two cents on this matter, back to gb and proud!
Any of you had done anything similar??? i´m sure i was not the only one that notice that!
cheers!

Just install CM10, the latest nightly and you will forget GB forever. I was in your position once, but you really have to try CM10. You may use JB LuPuS kernel, or the one provided in the CM10 zip.
Neo V : http://get.cm/?device=haida&type=nightly
Neo : http://get.cm/?device=hallon&type=nightly
To solve the bright button light, in "system/etc/hw_config.sh" add on the bottom of line these:
echo 0 > sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/als/enable
echo 1 > sys/class/leds/button-backlight/brightness
echo 1 > sys/class/leds/button-backlight/max_brightness
echo 1 > sys/class/leds/button-backlight/max_current
Also take a look on that to eliminate all possible lag : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
And BAM, your phone is f*cking freaking unbelievable smooth, fast and awesome.
I also recomment you use that theme : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.darkdog.theme.crystal2
Cheers!

I´ve tried, u can be sure of that...tried everything....and really, gb is still the best...also i can play modern combat 4!

I had an Xperia U and despite it having a dual-core cpu I was disappointing with the performance on ICS, when I got my current phone (neo mt15) I never tried any rom other than official CM7.2 because I knew ics/jb wont deliver good fluidity over time

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Guide To Roms Xperia X8

There are many good Roms for our Xperia x8 in xda, But it is hard to determine which one is right for you,, when i first started i faced a lot of problems deciding on which rom to use,, eventually i found out that it depends on the user on what he wants in his rom and chose the appropriate rom accordingly, SO i am going to include all the roms i have used and give detailed information , so you can choose according to your needs
If your having a hard time finding the best kernel for your X8 as well , Check out my Guide To Kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469464
But first Read these up if you don't know how to install a custom Rom also i have included a guide on how to install a custom kernel
#Custom Rom Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921652
#Custom Kernel Guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17384177&postcount=3
#1. Froyobread : This Rom is a great choice for beginners, its stable and fast. it's core cm6. Android 2.2, a great upgrade if you are still using the 2.1 stock eclair this is the best upgrade,, many hail this as the best stable ROM there is, its full of features, it delivers smooth performance, and i have found it to be very stable. so if your new just use this, you will be satisfied
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079463
Pros : Still considered the most stable Rom, Fast and Smooth Performance, Good app Performance, android 2.2 has greater app support, most features work without any problems, little or no bugs, one of the most famous rom so if you have any problem lot of people out there to help you
Cons: Android 2.2 has become old many people prefer Android 2.3 over it. Not as Smooth as gdx when it comes to scrooling, according to some people Wifi does not work(it worked for me though)
#2.Hackdroid: A decent rom, flashy and stylish, sometimes laggy. but overall a very good room. great for starters, however many people stated this one to be a little unstable , but it really depends on what apps you run if you are looking for a good looking rom with visual features this one is a pretty good choice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914513
Pros: Very Customizable, Decent Performance, Stable if you stick to normal apps, Has more features than most Roms
Cons: A little Laggy, Sometimes Unstable, Many people have Reported bugs in this rom. Other Roms Offer Superior Performance
#3.KuyaDroid: This one is an awesome rom, solid and stable, fast performance smooth menu and everything is decent. Its a good rom if your into gaming as it has built in Overclock, Undervolt, and gesture.(note these features can be manually added on other roms too). One more noticable thing about this rom is that it's core is cm7, and android version 2.3( a big update from the stock 2.1)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109563
Pros: Very fast app performance, Smooth Scrooling, Android 2.3, Wide Range of Users so you will easily find solutions if you face any problems, Overall Solid CM7 Rom.
Cons: Lacks Features that are available on Gingerdx, Some Reported Bugs, some apps force closes
#4.GingerDX: This is A cm6 - cm7 update of the Famous Froyobread, So far its fast and stable although a few bugs have been reported but its one of the most stable and working cm7 , android 2.3 roms around. its definitely worth a try if you want a fast and smooth working rom. also it has some pretty good features more than most roms out there to exact. Many people state this is the best Cm7 rom out there
Pros: One of the Smoothest CM7 Rom i have used, Full of features, Customizable, Most apps work without any problem, Regularly Updater, Wide range of users so you will easily find solutions if you do face any problem, Upgraded Camera
Cons: People claim it to be stable but not fast(A custom kernel helps in that case), Some minor bugs still needs to be fixed, Some features and still needs to be more polished and stable, updates have recently slowed down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188486
#5.BehradGH: this one is a light and simple rom, not a bad choice for newbies but it does not have as much customizable features as the other roms, its a good rom for starters,, so if your looking for a simple rom and an upgrade from your stock rom you should try this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955467
Pros: Light Rom, Good for Average Daily apps, Simple rom without complications. Simple Upgrade from the Stock Rom
Cons: Powerful Games Such As Nova, MC Sandstorm often Force closes, Some Reported Bugs, A little unstable while Performing Certain Operations
#6.GingerCruzt: Just tested this Rom Recently , And boy was i surprised , good performance and good looks, which is something very hard to get in one rom. in some cases better than GDX, but not as stable when running apps, but for normal daily use this one beats most of the roms out there. also it has a very similar look to the stock android. so if your into stock looks, try this out. also its android 2.3 /Cm7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101691
Pros: New and fresh, Decent Performance and Features, Not bad for daily use, most apps work without problem, Android 2.3. the new look is unique(gc 8.1 and after)
Cons: The Creator of the Rom is not really Co operative since he is not really active on XDA, Minor bugs, Is not updated as regularly as other Roms, Lacks advanced Features that available on other Cm7 Roms
#7.Krauser-SROM: Recently Tested this Rom, this uses a lot of Froyobreads Features, Its fast and stable , not a bad choice if you want try something other than those famous roms, i found it to be really decent rom. Not bad for daily normal usage
Pros: Simple Lightweight Rom, Most apps work, Stable and Smooth
Cons: Some FC on apps, Community of its users is not as big as Froyobread, Android 2.2, Doesn't have much features as some of the other roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184735
#8.GingerXperia: This rom is pretty good, and i actually find it to be even faster than gdx,Yes it lacks the features which gdx offers but if you can make do without those advanced features this is the rom for you, its also reported to be stable and smooth , its not bugfree though but hopefully it will be fixed on future updates
Pros: Very fast, Simple Rom, Light weight, Good app performance, Stable Rom,
Cons: Lacks some Features, some bugs, New so the community is still small, got worse with recent updates,the rom's creator used a lot of contents from other roms without taking permission from them(The issue seems to be resolved after V017)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373679
#9.Fd xperience: One of the better new roms, it has a stock look which is sure to attract many people, if you want to upgrade but do not want tolose your stock looks and yet have a stable upgraded rom this is the rom for you, its smooth and fast better than most roms out there, But it has some bugs and support issues, and i got some fc when playing games on it , other than that its very stable and fast
Pros:Fast,Stock look, Stock apps, good app performance, Smooth scrooling,
Cons: The contacts app is very slow, The music player lacks features, Some 3d games FC, the new updates boasted looks but slowed down performance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089690
#10.Stornmix: This is a very recent rom, It has the looks. The framework is beautiful, However the visuals in my opinion has been given more importance than speed in this which makes it slow, and many people i asked said that it really lags when playing hd games. Otherwise the rom is reported to be stable soo far. very few bugs, and if your not into gaming this rom may be a good choice
Pros: Looks Awesome, Fresh Look, Unique framework, Stable, Not many Bugs, Pretty Fast for daily use
Cons: laggy for gaming, Very small community of people using, not as much customization as other famous roms, Still needs more work, camera doesnt work properly, Contact numbers are not visible
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339823
#11.GingerXperiaRay: Another recent edition to X8 roms, Frankly i like this rom, stable, good performance, not many bugs, It's a good rom for gaming soo far i was able to run some hd games pretty well in it. The rom is smooth and maybe a good choice if your into gaming
Pros: Fast and stable, Built in ICS TRANSITIONS, Good app performance, Light
Cons: Needs custom kernel to fully work(Hopefully will be fixed soon), Needs more testing, Very new and very little users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393520
#12:LinuXperia: This is a good rom, the creator has worked a lot and improved it from what it was, however many people have reported some problems and bugs. and there are some doubt about it being fully compatible with the stock kernel
Pros:Fast rom. good gaming performance, Stable(Many said that previous versions are more stable)
Cons: According to many people the update affected its overall performance, Not as customizable as Famous roms, Needs Custom kernel to work well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363033
If anyone wants their Rom added in this thread just let me know
#13.AtiFroyo: This is Based On Minicm6,,so yeah it uses a little older version. As with all froyo roms, this one provides good gaming performance. But again as it uses older version you won't get as much functionality as Gingerbread roms
Pros: Fast Gaming Performance, Light weight smooth Ui, Stable, One of the few Froyo roms that are still updated (Mainly because it fairly new)
Cons:Quite a few bugs, According to some there are better froyo roms, lets face it Froyo is oudated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447607
#14.Mini CM: This is another Classic Xperia X8 rom , Similiar to gingerdx its very Good. One of the fastest rom out there. It provides a pretty good performance when combined with Its own custom kernel. In my opinion it provides one of the best gingerbread Experience
Pros: Fast and Smoot, Great Gaming Peformance, All apps work without any problem, Light Framework, Huge community of people to discuss probs with
Cons: Needs Custom kernel, Some people claim it to be unstable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222348
#15. Android Prime HD: Created By Haka(Who had a great amount of influence when it comes to improving Our X8) This rom is pretty good so far, the 2d and 3d performance is really good, Its new and so far it seems to be pretty stable, whatever bugs it used to have Haka is working hard and have fixed most of it, a must try for those want a clean rom
Pros: Simple and Light, Decent Fps In Games, Clean interface, improved performance, Regularly updated
Cons: OC Bug, Doesn't work with stock kernel anymore, Led notification bug, FC when multitasking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480404
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Warning: If you do anything without being sure about it you might end up with a bricked phone, and Hard bricks cannot be fixed on your own
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hero this thread is on wrong section... this is already on general section... so pls read/search before post any thing....
Agreed...but unfortunately too i've seen to many new users ask here and in general forum which one is the best rom for X8.
This one could stay here and it is stuck temporarily.
Ithunter i'm not blaming on you, you did a right observasion
ithunter said:
hero this thread is on wrong section... this is already on general section... so pls read/search before post any thing....
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don't forget about GingerCruzt, the last version add xperia active launcher
well, then let`s not forget either miniCM7-2.0.6, which, by the way, I personally like a lot, since I first tried it, I`m stuck on it!!
i posted it because many people look on the Development section,, and this thread is specially for beginners, those threads are a way more advanced and may look confusing to beginners
What would be useful is a list of pros and cons (or a list of what doesn't work) for each one.
For instance - i really like GingerCruzt, but can't get MMS to work on it.
GingerDX is an all rounder - but maybe has some battery drain issues (although Doixanh is really really improving it).
Just a thought
(and if anyone knows why MMS won't work on GingerCruzt, but works on my phone in GingerDX, please let me know!)
I have two propositions:
- tomek3pl H_Stock ROM. Has bloatware removed and contains good additions (App2SD e.g.) and a lot of people like stock
- HAKA's GingerFroyo, which is very careful with the battery.
How about SROM?
I havent really tried S rom,, i will add it after i have tested it
No ROM will beat GingerDX
Fast Stable. No bugs for me . no wifi bugs no battery drain.
i use'd this since v003 and now im running v013 it's fast run's great game's like NFS SHIFT and PES 2011 great customisation;
only thing i dont like is stock launcher (launcher pro) i much more like Go Launcher more customisations more fun bit faster and more stable
Please listen
if you got an x8. get GingerDX v013 Get OCv004 put the module in
Overclock to 729Mhz
You Will NEVER be happy with another rom once you try GDX ! ! !
Even Dox admitted there are some bugs in his roms ,, Gdx one of the best rom but still there are lot of other good roms like MINI CM7 AND GC
I was using gdx till v14. Agree with many - a great rom overall.
But since last 7 days I have used Fd v1.0.0 It has been an absolutely amazing experience. Fast, zippy, stable and I love the active launcher. I have not found a single bug, except one inconvenience that when you open contacts, sometimes it can take a little lag before opening; gardly a deal breaker !
Other than that my congrats and kudos to the developer on this amazing achievement.
P.S,: I have used maps while walking navigation last night in central london, phone was searching for signal in underground trains for 1 hour, used wi-fi and web browsing for 45 mins or so, fiddled with settings (ultrabrightness ticked), and still have got 40% left after 24 hours !
you have posted the same thing in multiple threads,, plz don't spam the same thing
hi.
sorry, i might be posting in wrong thread...
if i root my X8 and put custom ROM - will i be able to put original ROM back and unroot it?
asking cause my phone was given to me by my company and i might have to return it someday
well you should make a backup before flashing you phone with a custom rom, that ensures that if nedded you can go back to its default rom,, Use Xrecovery to do that, Just in case you havent backed up your previous data but want the default rom and kernel back, just download the newest se kernel and flash it using flashtool..
Please share a link to it
the one i found here is only for 2.3 as it states there
xmas2 said:
Please share a link to it
the one i found here is only for 2.3 as it states there
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Check ur inbox i sent a link
xmas2 said:
hi.
sorry, i might be posting in wrong thread...
if i root my X8 and put custom ROM - will i be able to put original ROM back and unroot it?
asking cause my phone was given to me by my company and i might have to return it someday
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If you just wanna try a different ROM, yes you can use xrecovery to make a back up of your actual ROM and install a new one, but
1.- it is not necessary that you flash any kernel, since there are already a lot of roms to try with no risk involved, such as unlocking bootloader etc.....
2.- at any given moment that you want to return to a brand new factory stock ROM, you just plug your phone with PC companion or SEUS and choose repair and you are done, this will unroot your phone and reset it at factory settings, any doubt just let me know
Sent from mt X8 using XDA premium
thanks everyone - will try it as soon as got some free time

ICS on this phone is still horrible.

I updated to 404, and kept it for a week. Now I'm back on GB and oh man it's so much better.
Why is ICS so freaking horrible on this phone?
Compared to GB, ICS is buggy, slow, unstable, unresponsive and prone to hang.
I don't know what you use your phone for, but with mine, I used to play games, browse the web, and listen to music, other than normal phone usage for calls and SMS.
The browser on ICS is pathetically slow and unstable compared to the one in Gingerbread. In GB, you could actually run 720p youtube videos in desktop mode page and it would actually work perfectly. If you do it on ICS you risk hanging your phone and having to remove the battery. Either that, or the browser either crashes or becomes extremely unresponsive to the point even haptic feedback on the back and home buttons becomes delayed. On certain complex desktop pages, swiping becomes unresponsive and responds up to a full second late. Try this on the youtube desktop page or any other big page. Also, the new ICS browser tends to close on it's own for no reason, and as far as I know, there is no way to go back to the home page using it. The only way is to open a new tab, go back to the tab page, close the old tab and switch to the new tab. On the old one all you have to do is simply close all tabs and the browser would automagically put you back to the home page.
Games used to run fairly well on GB but in ICS they are so much more laggy. Some games that were perfectly fluid and playable are choppy on ICS, for example, Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3 (which is unplayable), Asphalt 6. The Angry Bots tech demo ran well on GB but it lags like there is no tomorrow on ICS. Another game that used to work perfectly in GB is Riptide GP, after I updated to 404, the game tends to hang the phone after a while, requiring a battery removal.
Other than this, the ICS update has several bugs including malfunctioning led notifications, no compass in google maps (this basically renders google maps unusable), and general clunky feel when scrolling through homescreens, when in GB the whole thing was smooth as silk. Even using a live wallpaper couldn't make the phone slow on GB, while on ICS it looks like even moving a bunch of icons is too much for this phone to handle.
Sure, ICS adds some eye candy such as the NXT theme which I really like, an animation for screen rotation, but I'd rather have a functional phone than a pretty but slow, clunky, unstable phone.
Again, I have no idea why you guys love ICS so much, GB is a lot better in every way imaginable, and as an added bonus, you can use all the Xperia S stuff on it without any problem, including the beautiful new music player.
ICS is simply a slow clunky mess which barely works. I'd love to know why you think it's better than GB.
not true .. it is laggy because it runs on 1ghz .. imagine if ur phone had 600mhz .. laggy as hell but weirdly htc desire c ... can run ics
be lucky that sony actually updated ur xperia ray unlike scamsung they didnt update the galaxy s to ics because its specs cant handle it but it has same specs as our ray
hope u understandd
This is the reason Sony wont provide more updates when they see such threads.....
Remember what they did to XPeria Play users...?
Sony released a Beta ICS for Xperia play and all users started complaining games are laggy !!, it sucks!!, ICS is fail!!... the end result was Sony cancelled ICS for Play..
You are wrong ics runs super smooth on galaxy ace 800mhz older gen cpu
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This is the reason Sony wont provide more updates when they see such threads.....
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You are wrong.
The user has every right in the world to complain if something doesn't work properly. I don't think the users complaining has anything to do with Play not receiving ICS.
ICS on Ray is slow and it is much worse than Gingerbread for whatever reason. Maybe our phone is not powerful enough to run ICS in the first place?
Also, I would have preferred an update to Gingerbread with all the Xperia S stuff and gingerbread 2.3.7 to this ICS which is exactly the same as gingerbread for the most part, only much slower and buggy.
A smartphone should be all about ease of use, if I have to resort to modding and overclocking to get the damn thing running at an acceptable level of performance, there has to be something very wrong with it.
MarkMRL said:
ICS on Ray is slow and it is much worse than Gingerbread for whatever reason.
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Sony did offer an explanation for this: ICS was made for a dual core phone with 1 GB RAM
although ICS is new and compelling in many ways, we would like all of our users to make an informed decision when selecting what Android™ software to use. We are actually proud to say that our Gingerbread software is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea to stay on this release. Ice Cream Sandwich is more intensive, for example in terms of resource usage.
When it comes to ICS, it’s a major upgrade of Android™, and there are a lot of things that have changed compared to the Gingerbread release. Some of these changes affect the performance and stability of the system, for example by using more CPU power and RAM. ICS was developed with Galaxy Nexus in mind, which is based on a TI platform with dual-core processor and 1GB RAM
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Phone is phone
Game console is game console
Phone is not a game console, and you would not get same experience....ever.
ICS is overall much better and functional than GB. Who wants to use 3.3" display for gaming has some serious mental problems :banghead:
Try custom ROMs
I have SE Xperia Ray and try almost all options (rooted/unrooted with custom ROMs or not) sincerely Stock firmware a little laggy in browser or then multitasking particularlry at version 4.03 BUT at 4.04 i see it a big difference in smoothness the OS is much stable. The big problem now is 512 RAM, problem until you root your phone and install custom ROM (you need to unlock bootloader without loosing DRM data) delete aplications who work in backround you really didn't need them like update, livemanager I was very happy when i unninstaled Gmaps that all time worked in background even if GPS off, and now I use Igo for GPS Navigation. Now I have KA20.2 ROM and I can you assure the phone are so smooth and stable. My advice: root your phone, unlock bootlader with a safe method ( I used S1) a install a custom ROM, here on XDA you may found so many nice performing ROMs, and of course remove useless aplication who work in backround and eat your precious RAM. And of course before you unlock bootloader and root the phone, install cwm, read the guides, exists a risk, you know so you need to be informed how to unlock bootloader, root your phone, use fastboot and flashboot mode, of course in the case you never rooted a phone.
Best regards.
YMMV
On my device I didn't encounter any bugs, lags or poor performance with the ICS.
It's stable, runs smoothly and has the same battery life I had with BG.
One can't say for a fact the ICS don't run well on this device, since other people have different experience with it. A person my note his personal experience - and it's just fine to do so!
costicladk said:
I have SE Xperia Ray and try almost all options (rooted/unrooted with custom ROMs or not) sincerely Stock firmware a little laggy in browser or then multitasking particularlry at version 4.03 BUT at 4.04 i see it a big difference in smoothness the OS is much stable. The big problem now is 512 RAM, problem until you root your phone and install custom ROM (you need to unlock bootloader without loosing DRM data) delete aplications who work in backround you really didn't need them like update, livemanager I was very happy when i unninstaled Gmaps that all time worked in background even if GPS off, and now I use Igo for GPS Navigation. Now I have KA20.2 ROM and I can you assure the phone are so smooth and stable. My advice: root your phone, unlock bootlader with a safe method ( I used S1) a install a custom ROM, here on XDA you may found so many nice performing ROMs, and of course remove useless aplication who work in backround and eat your precious RAM. And of course before you unlock bootloader and root the phone, install cwm, read the guides, exists a risk, you know so you need to be informed how to unlock bootloader, root your phone, use fastboot and flashboot mode, of course in the case you never rooted a phone.
Best regards.
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Where i can find i go navigation? it's free?
play games on ICS? ahaha you make me laugh. small screen but still eager to play games? LOL. go get Xperia Play mate, it build for gamers. i feel sorry for you then. GB is history for me. you'll never move forward if you keep looking back. neway, enjoy your phone mate
@MarkMRL: That's been my experience too, though I don't play games.
I haven't tried the latest ICS though, which people report as being much better.
I moved to CM7.2 - it's very fast, with lots of great features the stock ROM doesn't have.
At the end of the day use what you're happy with
ICS is not buggy but it needs time.
Ok so 1.ICS is better looking cause gingerbread is a pain to ur eyes
2. Its better optimized than gb games are slightly better
3. It is not just for non rooted phones. Like it needs lots of optimiztion. Cuz stock one ahs lot of procceses and u have only 50mb ram free at all time so thats why is laggy. But if you supercharge or smurph out you ray-bam its perfeckt
I have 130 apps lots of procceses running at backround 5 HD games i play and i still
have 120 mb free ram so.. you have wrong thoughts about ics on ray...
Hey man I was in the same boat as you, when I first upgraded to ice I asked myself WTF is this **** and I really hated it, it was slow as hell and laggy but you got to know that developers know a lot more than you and that everything happens for a reason. Sorry but you come across asa huge cry baby
A few weeks back I was almost in the same mind set as you are in right now, I thought gingerbread was the best and ics was just crap but boy was I wrong
follow these steps and il bet you'l make another thread about why you love ics this time
1. Backup all your data, contacts. Msgs and pics
2. Do a factory reset/full wipe
3. Use the seus/pc companion and do a "repair"
NOW YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE COMPLETE STOCK MODE
4. Root the phone
5. Go to developer options, uncheck "dont keep apps" and "limit background processes" remember UNCHECK
6. Change window&transistion animations to .5
7. Use se tweaker to get cwm
8. Use hansip87s system ui and framework mod smooth scrolling thing (this makes some neat changes and adds notification and control and status widgets to the notification panel and you dont have to use the stupid status widget and the lame control buttons
9. There are some build prop edits /hacks thread where I saw the code for faster UI and scrolling and smoother transistions
10. If you want to use some of the awesome ROMS here by the awesome devs
11. Delete this thread
12. ??????????????
13. PROFIT!!
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I bet you your device will be faster and better than gb now, also its not the end of the world so be patient sony will make it better with each update and please, if you want to game that much why did you buy a phone with a 3.3in screen bro? Pm me if u have any problems
Oh also use root explorer or any other app similar to uninstall the se bloatware crap, I always have 150-120 free RAM always now, plus ics seems to have ajdusted the internal memory a bit
Its better than gb (coming from someone who hated ics 2 weeks back)
rikee said:
Phone is phone
Game console is game console
Phone is not a game console, and you would not get same experience....ever.
ICS is overall much better and functional than GB. Who wants to use 3.3" display for gaming has some serious mental problems :banghead:
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This is not a "phone", it's a smartphone. It should be able to run games and internet browser. And 3.3 inches is more than enough for those silly smartphone games. Every game I tried is perfectly playable and looking good too. I'm not a "smartphone gamer" (just the name makes me cringe), but I enjoy wasting some time with those little games every now and then (I also have a PSP, DS and PSVita by the way). It annoys me that I was able to play certain games before but not anymore.
The point is that I was able to do all of that when I bought it, but now I can't do it anymore.
Icel.me said:
YMMV
On my device I didn't encounter any bugs, lags or poor performance with the ICS.
It's stable, runs smoothly and has the same battery life I had with BG.
One can't say for a fact the ICS don't run well on this device, since other people have different experience with it. A person my note his personal experience - and it's just fine to do so!
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Are you telling me your Ray has fully functional led notification and compass in google maps? Or that you can watch 720p youtube videos in the browser (or equivalent heavy browsing) without the crappy thing slowing down to a crawl or locking up entirely?
And no, I'm not crying I'm just stating facts.
Also, firefrenzy, that's exactly what I did when I updated to 404. I know all there is to know when it comes to installing stuff, I have unlocked bootloader and installed a stock kernel with CWM I found on this board, and also supercharged to 100%. Still horrible. I haven't tried ICS custom roms yet.
MarkMRL said:
Are you telling me your Ray has fully functional led notification and compass in google maps? Or that you can watch 720p youtube videos in the browser (or equivalent heavy browsing) without the crappy thing slowing down to a crawl or locking up entirely?
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i dont know about the compass in the maps because i dont use the google maps ever, but i have no problems with the led notification or lag when playing hd video through browser, i have multiple tabs, of xda developers and another bodybuilding forum tabs and im using whatsapp messenger and normal messenger with my earphones plugged in listening to music altogeather at once on an almost daily basis and im having no problems, sure all that is slurping away my battery but that is understandable, only issue i had was i could not charge the phone when "switched off" the phone used to go into a bootloop, but the awesome people here fixed that too
Also, firefrenzy, that's exactly what I did when I updated to 404. I know all there is to know when it comes to installing stuff, I have unlocked bootloader and installed a stock kernel with CWM I found on this board, and also supercharged to 100%. Still horrible. I haven't tried ICS custom roms yet.
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BRO TAKE OFF ALL THAT STUFF,CLEAR ALL CACHE AND DATA AND START OVER FROM STOCK, ICS IS BETTER THAT WAY
AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN UPGRADED TO 4.0.4, SE'S OFFICIAL IS STILL 4.0.3
ICS was smooth for me & it's smoother now i'm on JJ's Hybrid ROM.
Try a custom rom...
Run on 4.0.4 Original rooted with all bloat remove, including all FB stuff. It runns realy good. Sure get a redraw some times after surfing on some heavy sites or a long driveing session with waze. But in may normal daily use, read e-mail, check calander and make phone calls it runs realy well and lag free.
But the Sony dailer is crap, I use exDailer & Contacts, much better and faster.
This toic should be moved to general. Unless it helps developers in some way which i have a hard time believing.
Sent from my Xperia ray using xda premium

Which rom?

Hi,
Hello,
I've been trying to read around but I ended up with nothing.
Can anyone offer suggestions for which ROM i might use.
I've been on stock HC, but got bored with slow speeds and skype playing up... So I just s-off and install stock GB.
Really I want a nice smooth ROM, ideally with pen, hw buttons and root. I don't need any specific OS. But I can't seem to find many non-'stock ROMs that cater for pro-grade which is very important for me.
Any suggestions please. Its late and I've run out of steam for looking.
Thanks,
S.
I'm usually not a fan of "what is the best ROM" threads. But seeing as activity is close to nothing on this forum for some time right now, there aren't really any active threads on the topic, so it seems like a valid question.
When I first switched to HC (must have been way back in late 2011) it seemed to perform close to as smoothly as GB. Really not much different at all in smoothness (insignificant really), despite some people's claims that HC is so laggy compared to GB. Now, I feel the tablet is super laggy. But I think it has more to do with now owning a One X phone since may, which is so much faster, and much better CPU specs. Faster than any Android device on the market when it was released.
At first I thought maybe the ROM had just slowed down over time, and bogged down with processes, apps etc. So I did a full data wipe, and flashed the newest version of the custom ROM I was on. And the performance did not change. So I really do think its just a perception thing.
Now I'm digressing quite a bit from your question. I played around with a few ROMs here and there (mostly earier in the year) and settled on HoneySense. It gives you the option to turn the hardware keys back on, and some other cool features. I don't feel that it makes the tablet any less laggy, even overclocked (maybe just a tiny bit). But I did seem to have a decent gain in idle battery life, which is certainly a good thing.
HC version of LeeDroid is pretty good too. But the app drawer was just too crowded for me. I think the dev was going to make some mods for different app drawer layouts to remedy this, but it never happened AFAIK. Its just a personal taste, you might think its fine.
I also tried the Sense version of IOIDroid for a short time. It had some real potential. Not sure how the dev did it, but it seemed significantly smoother than HoneySense. But there was a few things that were deal breakers for me. It has the AOSP keyboard, (I found this choice a bit odd, since there is also a "Senseless" version of this ROM)where I really prefer the Sense one. Also, I could not get Gmail working, which is a must have for me. Wouldn't even let me install it from the Market.
I never got into the ICS or JB ROMs. Still too many things not working quite right. Development has slowed. But hopefully the dev (Dexter) has not completely left our device.
For fast, lag free and all stuff working use FlyHIGH GB rom. Ull limit yourselves with apps for HC / ICS but hell, rom runs great. I did try HC Leedroid, ICS XXL and JB, LeeDroid GB and ofc stock GB and stock HC. FlyHigh is best for mine usage since on top off all i need phone calls via BT. With good setup ull have good tab look even on GB. I also find out HW keys r awsome compare to HC/ICS/JB low menu buttons. I am missing those a lot on SGT2.
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For fast, lag free and all stuff working use FlyHIGH GB rom. Ull limit yourselves with apps for HC / ICS but hell, rom runs great. I did try HC Leedroid, ICS XXL and JB, LeeDroid GB and ofc stock GB and stock HC. FlyHigh is best for mine usage since on top off all i need phone calls via BT. With good setup ull have good tab look even on GB. I also find out HW keys r awsome compare to HC/ICS/JB low menu buttons. I am missing those a lot on SGT2.
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Is have to use Bluetooth headset for making the phone call on GB 2.3.4 stock Rom on Flyer?
Is any one use Flyer to make phone call without BT as the way cell phone did?
Is FlyHIGH GB rom still need to use the BT to make the phone call?

[Q] Best Stable ROM for x10i

Hey All,
What is the best stable (full featured) ROM for the x10i? Last ROM I installed was TEAM ROM v4.0 a year ago, recently upgraded to an S3 and am handing down old faithful to my daughter and want to get it running smoothly for her....she is technically inclined so I need something that is G2G no additional flashing or modding required. Any current recommendations appreciated...I realize that most ICS ROMS will be out of the questions...that is fine, GB = Happy. Thanks in advance.
PS - When I wiped the phone the home button lost its binding...working to wake the screen, but not as a multifunction button.
Hi bro,
if you like SONY's UI Achotjan V2 should be the best option, link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690148
Some bugs was reported (MMS on some provider, Bravia Engine) fixed, try to find it on that thread.
FYI
SFL44 said:
Hey All,
What is the best stable (full featured) ROM for the x10i? Last ROM I installed was TEAM ROM v4.0 a year ago, recently upgraded to an S3 and am handing down old faithful to my daughter and want to get it running smoothly for her....she is technically inclined so I need something that is G2G no additional flashing or modding required. Any current recommendations appreciated...I realize that most ICS ROMS will be out of the questions...that is fine, GB = Happy. Thanks in advance.
PS - When I wiped the phone the home button lost its binding...working to wake the screen, but not as a multifunction button.
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I think the best ROM is donutHD. It's smooth(highest benchmark) and very stable.everything is working
Sent from my X10i using xda app-developers app
I agree with Jakuburban. DonatHD 2.2.9 is best GB rom for X10i. Recommendations......
Sent from my X10i using xda premium
SFL44 said:
Hey All,
What is the best stable (full featured) ROM for the x10i? Last ROM I installed was TEAM ROM v4.0 a year ago, recently upgraded to an S3 and am handing down old faithful to my daughter and want to get it running smoothly for her....she is technically inclined so I need something that is G2G no additional flashing or modding required. Any current recommendations appreciated...I realize that most ICS ROMS will be out of the questions...that is fine, GB = Happy. Thanks in advance.
PS - When I wiped the phone the home button lost its binding...working to wake the screen, but not as a multifunction button.
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Hay ..
all ROM for Xperia is good, but for ICS and JB there are some bugs. For example, Video Recording. If you intend to try but note that there is a problem faced by other users who have installed first.:silly:
Cm7zmod is the best, hands down. The performance offered by ZMOD eclipses all other gingerbread roms, even donutHD.
Achotjan Stock Remplacement Rom V2 is my best rom :good:
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the best rom is donat hd
its smooth and stable and its jellybean/ics themed , its awesome
Few ROMs Usage - Comments
Hi all,
Just wanted to share a bit of my own personal experience with a few of the X10 roms i tried for some time.
Keep in mind that the daily use was more or less the same for all ROMs and is as follows:
Telephony(calls), data usage (both wifi & 3G), gaming (quite a lot actually), camera (videos + pics), music and even watching videos (rarely).
- Stock 2.3.3: used this for a long time, once it was officially released by SE. When i bought the X10 it had 1.6!! then went to 2.1.
Then i joined the xda family here. Anyways, the overall 2.3.3 rating was that UI is slow and battery drainage is high. (I even charged it twice during a single day!!!)
- CM7-ZMOD-003: used for months. Overall rating was that UI speed is noticeably much faster than stock, but battery drainage is slightly better than with stock 2.3.3.
What i did not like so much was that i had to add another launcher because most toggle widgets i use would not work on the built in loader. Don't know why.
- Then i went back to stock 2.3.3 and tried various themes, launchers (like GO EX, Galaxy S3) but this only made UI much slower (response) and battery drained faster.
The look was nice but as long as you add extra stuff, its only logic that the power drain increases and UI performance decreases.
- FeraLab*** ICS v4 (17/11/2012) - Finally, i wanted to try this (obviously)
Had to learn to unlock BL which was interesting and finally was able to do it ..(after reading carefully - many thanks to all who contribute).
Used it for a month until recently.
The major difference in my case, was that the battery drain was much much less than with any other ROM of the above. This is a major PLUS!.
The only downside was that UI is a little slower but this is expected as the 4.x OS needs more power to sustain, since the X10 was not built for 4.x OS.
Another major factor for me was that, some of the games i played on any 2.x.x OS, will not run on the 4.x OS, like Plants vs Zombies (which is one of my favorites),
I have 3 different apk's saved but either of them work on ICS. Probably they are written for 2.x OS only.
So, now i'm back to stock 2.3.3 and will try a few other candidates that are in xda and see if i finally decide to stay on one, or simply buy a newer phone and more powerful one.
Since i am rather new at all this, i would also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to xda in any way.
Just wanted to share something back.
Regards,
Eros
dta1eros said:
Hi all,
Just wanted to share a bit of my own personal experience with a few of the X10 roms i tried for some time.
Keep in mind that the daily use was more or less the same for all ROMs and is as follows:
Telephony(calls), data usage (both wifi & 3G), gaming (quite a lot actually), camera (videos + pics), music and even watching videos (rarely).
- Stock 2.3.3: used this for a long time, once it was officially released by SE. When i bought the X10 it had 1.6!! then went to 2.1.
Then i joined the xda family here. Anyways, the overall 2.3.3 rating was that UI is slow and battery drainage is high. (I even charged it twice during a single day!!!)
- CM7-ZMOD-003: used for months. Overall rating was that UI speed is noticeably much faster than stock, but battery drainage is slightly better than with stock 2.3.3.
What i did not like so much was that i had to add another launcher because most toggle widgets i use would not work on the built in loader. Don't know why.
- Then i went back to stock 2.3.3 and tried various themes, launchers (like GO EX, Galaxy S3) but this only made UI much slower (response) and battery drained faster.
The look was nice but as long as you add extra stuff, its only logic that the power drain increases and UI performance decreases.
- FeraLab*** ICS v4 (17/11/2012) - Finally, i wanted to try this (obviously)
Had to learn to unlock BL which was interesting and finally was able to do it ..(after reading carefully - many thanks to all who contribute).
Used it for a month until recently.
The major difference in my case, was that the battery drain was much much less than with any other ROM of the above. This is a major PLUS!.
The only downside was that UI is a little slower but this is expected as the 4.x OS needs more power to sustain, since the X10 was not built for 4.x OS.
Another major factor for me was that, some of the games i played on any 2.x.x OS, will not run on the 4.x OS, like Plants vs Zombies (which is one of my favorites),
I have 3 different apk's saved but either of them work on ICS. Probably they are written for 2.x OS only.
So, now i'm back to stock 2.3.3 and will try a few other candidates that are in xda and see if i finally decide to stay on one, or simply buy a newer phone and more powerful one.
Since i am rather new at all this, i would also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to xda in any way.
Just wanted to share something back.
Regards,
Eros
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If you have the money, go for a new phone. The X10 is more like a ghost these days. Or you could try CM10 by scritch007, which everyone says is really smooth. There's also donutHD, which will give a good stock-based ROM (imo not nearly as smooth as ZMOD, but has better battery life). Or you could try on of the gaming ROMs, those are sure to have the maximum free RAM available..

Official 4.0.4 for Ray question

Hi there,
So 4.0.4 build ICS 4.1.B.0.587 has been out for Ray for quite some time now and I cant seem to find any topic, video, ANYTHING about how good it actually is?
Going to Sony forums is quite a hassle since most users there arent that tech savvy and you get puzzled answers at best...
So Im asking you guys, have you tried it, how good is it and is it worth upgrading over the old GB?
Specifily Id like to know about these things:
- HD Video recording still lags, stutters?
- Dialer opening up in this century (or is it taking 5 s still)?
- Overall smoothness any better?
Thanks, peace out!
Laggy, mono sound, led notification bug, call menu bug, worse battery life.
It's a downgrade not an upgrade.
Since I don't have xperia ray so I used my frnd's for some days and I used it first in gb, then in ics..
-I hardly suffered any faults in hd video recording(except that while starting the recording it took a bit time,nearly 4seconds for it to start)
-For dialer, I didn't found any flaws, lags etc.
-Smoothness for better in gb(as expected)
Going on gaming the smaller games worked fine...but as soon as I downloaded some big games they took sometime before starting and during playing too I experienced some lags...
Overall I would like to say that,
GB: Smooth, good for gaming, fast
ICS: Nice looks, more apps supported, more features(some features that u may not find in gb)
But this is my review and further the choice is yours. Using gb or ics depends on the purpose you're using your mobile.
If u like mah review, Press thanks,
Regards,
Abhinav
Sent from my Xperia Mini Pro using xda premium
Really appreciate both posts Would like to hear more opinions if there are any...
It seems most opinions about the new ICS build are totally contradictionary which is weird :cyclops:
Oh and how is the camera quality? Im guessing its still compressed heavily?
Well, make a backup and try it by yourself. I've only lasted 10 minutes with ICS on my phone, buggy and slow.
No way to backup / restore back from ICS to GB without voiding the warranty right?
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No way to backup / restore back from ICS to GB without voiding the warranty right?
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Root your phone and install CWM recovery... Without unlocking bootloader...
Rooting doesn't void warranty but unlocking bootloader does...
Then make a nandroid backup by CWM recovery
If it's not too late already, you don't need CWM.
You'll only need your stock rom (installed on your phone), Sony Update Service, and FlashTool. You'll be able to backup your stock ROM into a flashable FlashTool image.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB77gWRUI_A
I extremely appreciate all the replies
Due to some GB problems that persisted I decided to take a leap of faith on this one and install the official ICS.In time I`ll write down my experience so that anyone with questions will finally be able to get some straight answers without hopping from forum to forum... Till then here are my initial thoughts:
So far I can list some general pros and cons
Pros: Sleek interface with new options, far better multitasking, gingerbread bugs fixed, better camera settings and handling
Cons: Hiccups during usage of a lot of applications, Sony specific bugs (as in Mono video recording, turning off sound doesnt work on unlock screen), extremely slow stock android browser (opera for instance is butter smooth, smoother and faster than in GB)
To say a few quick words, interface doesnt lag (dialer for example comes up in a microsecond) and is generally smooth but applications like facebook tend to have hiccups that can be disruptive if you enjoy smoothness. There are some weird bugs aswell which I dont really mind since they aint that important and should be easily addressed with the new update (hopefully). All in all im happy I upgraded. GB had connectivity dropoffs for me and the 3G or HSDPA wasnt really all that - but it is a lot better on ICS. All in all if I try to be objective ICS on Sony feels a little BETAish, I think its not optimized as it should be with the hiccups since in some areas they are quite heavy while in other scenarios during hard multitasking you cant notice any hiccups or lag at all - super smooth... Optimization would be the key word here Havent tried WiFi so no comment on that since I dont use it.
Bottom line, Im happier with ICS than with GB but not everyone would be. Especially if you value the "complete feel"

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