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The reason I ask is that I love my phone but im wondering if I should take it back and wait for a dual core for battery life reasons. I only want htc because I have had Moro and blur sucks. Plus moto seems much more crippled so to speak. I know that the ego 3d is just a couple of months off so was wondering if something might be prtletty close behind for verizon, and I font care about the 3d nonsense, I just want a disk core because I assume that it will be more battery effecient. Please feel free to correct my inaccuracies, because I do love my phone, but the battery does leave a little to be desired along with the retarded micro usb placement. That is my only two gripes with the phone. Thanks for any siggestions.
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By the time a dual core LTE phone is released by HTC, unlimited data plans will be gone.
I disabled the lock screen and turn the GPS off when not needed and my battery life has improved dramatically... worth a shot?
I think everyone's eyes are too big for their stomach. It will be a while before a dual core phone will come out, where android is optimized to use it, and apps take advantage of it. Seriously, buy the time my upgrade rolls around in January 2012, it might be there. In the meantime, lovin my TB on 4g.
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I think everyone's eyes are too big for their stomach. It will be a while before a dual core phone will come out, where android is optimized to use it, and apps take advantage of it. Seriously, buy the time my upgrade rolls around in January 2012, it might be there. In the meantime, lovin my TB on 4g.
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So the next 4G phone for Verizon, which will be a motorola phone, the bionic will be a dual core LTE phone. Not HTC but will be dual core. The main reason I think the thunderbolt isn't is that there is some kind of delay in the dual core snapdragon processors from what I heard. But I agree the biggest benefit of jumping on the thunderbolt, which a really decent phone, is to get on 4G especially while it's still unlimited.
If bat life is already bad on a single core I can't even imagine on a dual core
It wouldn't be near as bad if HTC didn't try to put the smallest capacity battery they could find in there. That said, I've had no issue getting through the day. I'm connected to wifi all day at home and work and won't have LTE in my area until later this year.
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It wouldn't be near as bad if HTC didn't try to put the smallest capacity battery they could find in there. That said, I've had no issue getting through the day. I'm connected to wifi all day at home and work and won't have LTE in my area until later this year.
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You say that, but the phone is already a beast even with just a 1400mah battery. Can you imagine how bulky the thing would be with a 2000? And if the phone is only getting 6 hours per charge now, adding another 600mah woth of battery capacity would only give you about 3 more hours. It wouldn't be worth it to me.
The problem is not the battery capacity. The problem is that 4g radio on a very limitted 4g network. So it is constantly searching for a good 4g signal. The same thing happens to me everyday at work, because the 3g at my work sux. So my phone searches all day, and uses the battery up quick. But on the weekends when I am not at work, my battery lasts much longer.
We need to be turning the 4G radio off when we are going to be in a non-4G area for an extended amount of time. And then turn it back on again later when we leave that 4g dead-zone. That would make a big difference in battery life.
Or if they could make the radio more effecient, like instead of constantly searching for a signal, maybe if there is no signal, don't search again for another 15 minutes.
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If bat life is already bad on a single core I can't even imagine on a dual core
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Dual cores are usually more power efficient as each core is running at a lower clock speed from what I have read. There are some other specifics that I cannot recollect at this point.
So just a random semi relevant question. If the EVO 3d is cdma & LTE as is rumored what would keep that phone from running on Verizon?
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I dont see how the evo 3d wpuld possibly have LTE seeing ad how sprint hasnt put up the first LTE tower, or to my knowledge even bought any spectrum.
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Yea... I think it will get better... Look at all the custom roms for the incredible and what they did for battery life...
Hang in there and it will get better. I remember owning the DINC and not rooted but now it rocks.
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I dont see how the evo 3d wpuld possibly have LTE seeing ad how sprint hasnt put up the first LTE tower, or to my knowledge even bought any spectrum.
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i-den is going down and the future lte lies there
what i saw is that it is not lte it is wimax. so no go for us.
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This phone will be very experimental in my thought its the first of the 3d and the 3d in tv's is till iffy to me so I dont know how it will be on the phone
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This phone will be very experimental in my thought its the first of the 3d and the 3d in tv's is till iffy to me so I dont know how it will be on the phone
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Seems gimmicky to me. I don't understand why any one would want this in a phone. But to each their own. Anyway, I just wish we had DC for battery life, I could careless about benchmarks, etc. The 1Ghz does more than I need it to, but I would like it to be a little bit easier on this juice.
I am considering the TB coming from a Windows HTC Imagio and just think it sucks that I would have to spend time shutting things down then bringing them back up just to save batt. life!! I haven't yet experienced an Android and just not ready to learn a new phone. Just getting sick of windows. Nothing out there for them.
BTW. Is there anyway to get Windows Media Player on the TB? I have never liked the Sense music player. You cant play an album from start to finish. At least I cant on my Imagio
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I am considering the TB coming from a Windows HTC Imagio and just think it sucks that I would have to spend time shutting things down then bringing them back up just to save batt. life!! I haven't yet experienced an Android and just not ready to learn a new phone. Just getting sick of windows. Nothing out there for them.
BTW. Is there anyway to get Windows Media Player on the TB? I have never liked the Sense music player. You cant play an album from start to finish. At least I cant on my Imagio
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How can you not play an album from start to finish on any Android phone's music app? This has never been an issue.
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I am considering the TB coming from a Windows HTC Imagio and just think it sucks that I would have to spend time shutting things down then bringing them back up just to save batt. life!! I haven't yet experienced an Android and just not ready to learn a new phone. Just getting sick of windows. Nothing out there for them.
BTW. Is there anyway to get Windows Media Player on the TB? I have never liked the Sense music player. You cant play an album from start to finish. At least I cant on my Imagio
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I get better battery life on my Thunderbolt than my Droid. So, this battery life thing isn't a universal problem. It has to do with 4G switching. Trying to connect to weak 4G signal and dropping back to 3G often is killing battery life. There isn't LTE where I live so I get great battery life.
Just look for some media player apps on the market. That's what I did. I think I use car tunes, but I would have to get my phone and confirm.
Well I've been looking at the evo 3d for a while and I've just ordered one off Amazon UK to use on my three UK account.
It is due to arrive on Tuesday can't wait.
I have a couple of questions if you can help
The 3d cameras is it easy just to point and click or do you need to take it at a certain angle ?
If I want to use 3d films which I own which is the best way to convert for the ego ?
I use to have the sensation (I change my phones like my socks as I've not found the perfect phone yet but have high hopes about the 3d) the sensation had battery problems and awful lag has this been sorted with the 3d ? You tube videos show the evo being very smooth but is it ?
How good is the camera the s2 has a perfect camera but there are also loads of negatives
Lastly and this IM sure wont be clear cut will I regret moving from s2 to there evo 3d ?
Thanks in advance
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Well I've been looking at the evo 3d for a while and I've just ordered one off Amazon UK to use on my three UK account.
It is due to arrive on Tuesday can't wait.
I have a couple of questions if you can help
The 3d cameras is it easy just to point and click or do you need to take it at a certain angle ?
If I want to use 3d films which I own which is the best way to convert for the ego ?
I use to have the sensation (I change my phones like my socks as I've not found the perfect phone yet but have high hopes about the 3d) the sensation had battery problems and awful lag has this been sorted with the 3d ? You tube videos show the evo being very smooth but is it ?
How good is the camera the s2 has a perfect camera but there are also loads of negatives
Lastly and this IM sure wont be clear cut will I regret moving from s2 to there evo 3d ?
Thanks in advance
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3D is easy to use, must shoot landscape.
Handbrake works quite well for conversion, if you want to see a movie I did with handbrake, hit me up on IRC.
Most of the ROMs have been through several revisions, I would say lag and battery are not issues at this point.
Well no camera is perfect, there have been quite a few MODs done to the E3D camera by myself and several others. The front facing camera can do 2MP now.
And switching phones... Well if you don't like regular updates, Samsung is your best best...
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3D is easy to use, must shoot landscape.
Handbrake works quite well for conversion, if you want to see a movie I did with handbrake, hit me up on IRC.
Most of the ROMs have been through several revisions, I would say lag and battery are not issues at this point.
Well no camera is perfect, there have been quite a few MODs done to the E3D camera by myself and several others. The front facing camera can do 2MP now.
And switching phones... Well if you don't like regular updates, Samsung is your best best...
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superb thanks .. Never used irc how do I do that ? How do I hit you up ? Sorry for being thick would love to get an idea of 3d and would appreciate any help you can give.
I don't mind regular updated thats why I LIke htcthey are quick to sort problems out unlike Samsung and htc is ota unlike Samsung which users buggy kies ..
Am looking forward to the 3d as I'm a real technology geek plus beauty of Amazon if I don't like I can send it back cos I'm not selling my s2 till IM 1000% sure
Thanks in advance
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I had Samesung S2 as well but had to return it to CPW as it has blue/yellow tint on the screen and red spot when taking pictures.
As for E3D's 3D camera you just point and shoot and prepare to be amazed. 2D is ok as long as you don't use the auto setting.
I use 4videosoft blueray ripper to convert 3d films. It is easy to use.
Never had a sensation so don#t know about its performance. On E3D everything is working as it should be- Fast and furious.
Be warned, there isn't a lot of preloaded 3D contents on UK's E3D. Only few pictures and that's it. No movie, no video clips, no games, no nothing. But there are tones of 3D stuff on youtube - just search yt3d. Or just go out and start shooting yourself. I still can't believe how good the 3D photos look on the phone( not too brilliant on big screen TV tho as it is only 2megapixel). 3D gaming is fun also.
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I had Samesung S2 as well but had to return it to CPW as it has blue/yellow tint on the screen and red spot when taking pictures.
As for E3D's 3D camera you just point and shoot and prepare to be amazed. 2D is ok as long as you don't use the auto setting.
I use 4videosoft blueray ripper to convert 3d films. It is easy to use.
Never had a sensation so don#t know about its performance. On E3D everything is working as it should be- Fast and furious.
Be warned, there isn't a lot of preloaded 3D contents on UK's E3D. Only few pictures and that's it. No movie, no video clips, no games, no nothing. But there are tones of 3D stuff on youtube - just search yt3d. Or just go out and start shooting yourself. I still can't believe how good the 3D photos look on the phone( not too brilliant on big screen TV tho as it is only 2megapixel). 3D gaming is fun also.
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excellent thanks good to get feedback from uk version . presume the free film green hornet which is on us version isnt on uk version ? i like the access to the sd card on uk version hot swap isnt seen on many phones .
whats battery life like ?
when u say re 2d pics whats best settings .. must admit the s2 had a superb camera but screen problems and little niggles with firmware and awful kies i wont miss
thanks in advance
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i like the access to the sd card on uk version hot swap isnt seen on many phones .
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You get access to the SD card without pulling the battery?
whats battery life like ?
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I use my phone pretty heavy and get a full day out of it. I use ViperRom but don't have it overclocked.
In the accessories forum there's some links to some decent aftermarket batteries to buy for backup.
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That's correct. But you still have to take the battery cover out, it is a bit silly really. I miss how it was designed on the Windows mobile 6 where sd card is easily accessible by place it on the side of the phone.
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presume the free film green hornet which is on us version isnt on uk version ? i like the access to the sd card on uk version hot swap isnt seen on many phones .
whats battery life like ?
when u say re 2d pics whats best settings .. must admit the s2 had a superb camera but screen problems and little niggles with firmware and awful kies i wont miss
thanks in advance
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No Green Hornet I am afraid, at least not on my phone. Battery consumption is really heavy on this phone, especially when taking 3D pictures roughly 800 -900mA because it uses both cameras. I usually only get 4-5 hours of heavy ussage. I can't not understand when people say their phone lase whole day when taking 3d photos videos and play games all the time. It is just not possible.
I went out having lunch with friends yesterday. Playing music 50 minutes , videos 5 mins and taking 25 3d photos, let m8s play with the phone for like 15 minutes. 5 hours later I have 7% battery left. If I play 3d games constantly, the battery will not last longer than 3 hours, about the same I got with Desire HD. In standby 8-15% drop over 6-8 hours period. There is not a lot of custom roms for GSM 3D to play about atm. Hopefully it will catches on.
As for 2d photo setting, sharpness + 1 helps a lot in general, under low light up the exposure rather than iso, other setting you just have to play it a bit and see what suit your taste the best. My conclusion about photo is doesn't matter how good a 2D photo is, it is never going to be as realistic as a 3D one.
Excellent thanks mine is out with royal mail this morning can't wait ... Tee the battery thats not bad for all that use s2 would last half that !
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Hi, i sold my Atrix 4g a few days ago not because it was bad but because i wanted a bigger screen, but now im undecided between the 3 phones i mention on the title. I'v been reading a lot about the specs and i see that are pretty much the same but it's always better to ask the ppl that already own the device for an advice, so which one is really the best? or ill get the same speeds from any of them?
I love my Razr but as far as the rest of the phones depends on several things. Speed are you talking about the phone operation? Speed could depend on your area if you have 4G or signal. Are you going to root?
When i talk about speed im refering to phone speed such like games, interface, browsing, etc, also id like a phone with a good signal reception for internet.
As far as root yes, ill root and use most likely custom roms as i usually do on my phones
perviously i used photon its a good phone and now im using Razr. photon its very tuff made feels good in hand very good for playing games and wacthing movies but its screen its very blurry type pic look very bad on phone screen, some time videos look little tilt but when i install beta ics that all screen issue is gone.Razr look good in hand dnt feel tuff made screen is very nice for watching HD videos but cant play HD Games by gamloft its compitible for razr but i think it will very soon availble.
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perviously i used photon its a good phone and now im using Razr. photon its very tuff made feels good in hand very good for playing games and wacthing movies but its screen its very blurry type pic look very bad on phone screen, some time videos look little tilt but when i install beta ics that all screen issue is gone.Razr look good in hand dnt feel tuff made screen is very nice for watching HD videos but cant play HD Games by gamloft its compitible for razr but i think it will very soon availble.
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Im guessing because of the GPU?
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Im guessing because of the GPU?
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Compatibility issues with games due to them not adding that code into their games.
If you fake your phone's ID to another phone model, the games run just fine. The GPU is definitely strong enough to handle them.
You're asking about 3 different phones all on 3 different networks. Do you live in a 4G area? I have the Razr Maxx and love it. The battery lasts for forever. The screen is great. Verizon coverage is awesome. V's 4G LTE is blazing fast for me. And right now you can get 2x the data. And if you order tonight (2/29) you can get $100 off. A buddy of mine at work has the S2 SkyRocket and the battery doesn't last for crap if he is using the phone and for some reason he barely uses the phone and it chews thru the data. The Photon is on Sprint. I liked Sprint. But I like V better.
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You're asking about 3 different phones all on 3 different networks. Do you live in a 4G area? I have the Razr Maxx and love it. The battery lasts for forever. The screen is great. Verizon coverage is awesome. V's 4G LTE is blazing fast for me. And right now you can get 2x the data. And if you order tonight (2/29) you can get $100 off. A buddy of mine at work has the S2 SkyRocket and the battery doesn't last for crap if he is using the phone and for some reason he barely uses the phone and it chews thru the data. The Photon is on Sprint. I liked Sprint. But I like V better.
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Nope, i live in a 3.5g area lol, im actually planing on using the phone in Venezuela not in the states.
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Hi, i sold my Atrix 4g a few days ago not because it was bad but because i wanted a bigger screen, but now im undecided between the 3 phones i mention on the title. I'v been reading a lot about the specs and i see that are pretty much the same but it's always better to ask the ppl that already own the device for an advice, so which one is really the best? or ill get the same speeds from any of them?
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Well, the first thing i should do is ask myself, "what do i need from a smartphone?"
"What are the things i would do with either a RAZR, Photon, or S2 Skyrocket?"
"Am i a gamer? Am i a Music Lover? or simply an average user? Or i am after the looks and build of a phone?"
List them and compare with the 3 different phones you mentioned...
Then if that matches your needs, that is the time to decide if you will have it...
I am an owner of RAZR now, as i also was in a dilemma before betweem Nokia N9, RAZR, and SG Note.. Those were the things i did... And i never regret....
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mujju85 said:
perviously i used photon its a good phone and now im using Razr. photon its very tuff made feels good in hand very good for playing games and wacthing movies but its screen its very blurry type pic look very bad on phone screen, some time videos look little tilt but when i install beta ics that all screen issue is gone.Razr look good in hand dnt feel tuff made screen is very nice for watching HD videos but cant play HD Games by gamloft its compitible for razr but i think it will very soon availble.
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it's no grafics chip issue, cause RAZR is running the same chip like the google Nexus S (PowerVR SGX540). So there's a way to play the Gameloft HD Games:
root your RAZR
install a root browser (e.g. root browser lite)
go to /system
open build.prop
change ro.product.model to "Nexus S"
change ro.product.manufacturer to samsung
reboot
and so you can play gameloft hd games
i'm playing "Order & Chaos online" and "Backstab HD"
S2 skyrocket has extremely poor voice quality microphone so people at the other end have a hard time understanding you, which is never mentioned in reviews. Motorola RAZR and Motorola Defy are the two best modern phones for outgoing voice quality. This may or may not be important to you, but is the most important consideration in a phone for me.
According to Gizmodo in their HTC One X review, the phone had issues playing 3D games. They specifically mentioned Temple Run, and the phone not picking up certain inputs due to the CPU being overloaded or something. Sounds iffy to me, so I'm seeing if anyone is able to replicate this kind of thing with the LTEVO, thanks!
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According to Gizmodo in their HTC One X review, the phone had issues playing 3D games. They specifically mentioned Temple Run, and the phone not picking up certain inputs due to the CPU being overloaded or something. Sounds iffy to me, so I'm seeing if anyone is able to replicate this kind of thing with the LTEVO, thanks!
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When playing Temple Run, I notice an occasional blip where it hesitates for just a moment. Enough to make you smash into a tree though if you're not careful. Doesn't happen often thought, and I can't find a pattern of when it happens.
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Playing Stair Dismount on mine there is a lot of slowdown
Def not bc of lack of power I'm sure they just need to be optimized for the EVO..
If you think about it, there are only three Android phones with HD screens on the market right now. Most games are probably not yet optimized for that resolution as well. Even Apple doesn't have HD screens in their phones yet. Handset HD rendering is a rather novel feature.
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
Both dead space and mass effect (EA)
fc on my phone after intro splash screens.
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I remember when I bought the OG Evo, it seemed to everyone like it was underperforming in the game department. People said it would be fixed with updates and it didn't work because of this or that, but eventually we just realized the hardware wasn't up to snuff. I don't want to make the same mistake with my next purchase, so how bad is it really? Are there any high-end games that run perfectly? How does shadowgun play?
I've played all those games on my 3d ..and they played great..so with a greatly improved CPU and a oc-d gpu its def not hardware ...the s4 is top notch..and ur not go.na have too choice since almost all high end phones coming to the US will utilize the s4
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I've played all those games on my 3d ..and they played great..so with a greatly improved CPU and a oc-d gpu its def not hardware ...the s4 is top notch..and ur not go.na have too choice since almost all high end phones coming to the US will utilize the s4
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I agree but something is wrong I am having small issues with many games that ran fine on the 3d and OG. For instance just downloaded Nba Jam tonight and it studders and lags the whole time un playable. This game was running pretty good on my EVO last week.
So I agree it is not the hardware but something needs fixed. Sounds like the HD screen issue may be to blame
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I'm.having similar issues mostly with sound etc..but it will be fixed..eventually
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So I agree it is not the hardware but something needs fixed. Sounds like the HD screen issue may be to blame
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Any mention of this in the GNexus or Rezound forums?
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Any mention of this in the GNexus or Rezound forums?
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I will go check it out. I am not saying that it is the issue but someone mentioned it and it sounds possible that these may not be optimized for our screen yet I know when qhd was first hitting the market some apps had trouble with it. It has to be something though because there is no way this hardware cannot run apps that ran fine on my OG it just doesn't add up.
Any one get Demolition Inc working on this thing yet?
Shadowrun plays nice and smooth no issues with that game.
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Possible Fix
I don't have the 4g LTE yet I am a current 3D owner. Am trying to decide between GNex and LTEvo but that's another topic...
From what I've read somewhere else (can't quote where from) the fix was to bump your minimum cpu speeds up a notch and will probably fix most/all your lag. Use Antutu or other choice program (rooted only of course) and bump your min clock speed up one or two spots and I bet you don't run into issues.
If this doesn't work then ignore...thanks!
Shadowrun plays really smooth, and I'm amazed with the graphics. Looks sweet!
I was hoping this phone would game better than my gnex but so far it's not doing what I had hoped for. GTA3 has awful audio quality and I have to turn the settings down to low and lower res and other settings to get it to play lag free. I don't think it's any better than my gnex was. I am hoping the game needs an update.
Well I'm disappointed that a lot of the best looking 3D games do not work.
Not Working:
All Gameloft games EXCEPT Order & Chaos (but it still crashes some)
Even the brand new N.O.V.A. 3 doesn't work
Mass Effect Infiltrator
Dead Space
Field Runners
Working:
GTA III
Shadowgun
Minecraft
Deer Hunter Reloaded
Galaxy on Fire 2
Gentlemen, the phone has not even officially been launched yet.
Once game devs figure it out the games will run fine on our hardware. It is fact that our phones are more powerful than the 3D or the Gnex so it just needs to be optimized. On top of that, imagine how our phones will fly on a nice aosp Rom...
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How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
I've had both and TBH with my Flyer being overclocked to 1.84 GHZ I can notice no difference between the two in smoothness when browsing, tweeting, reading..etc
That said though, JB and quad core does make a difference ofcourse, especially when games are concerned.
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How much faster is Nexus 7 compare to HTC Flyer for real world usage.
I've been using Flyer for about a year now and it's seem to be very slow to me, especially when surfing websites.
Can Nexus handle flash better with Quad cores and all?
I want to know if it worth giving away my Flyer and buy Nexus 7. If it's not too much different, then I'll just keep the flyer.
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I don't know about the Nexus 7, but for your Flyer, you may want to try the Puffin Browser off of the Android Market/Google Play before you buy another tablet. It sped my web surfing up tremendously. The company suggests trying the free version of the app first.
Also, u may want to search Nexus 7 + flash. I've read that it doesn't natively support flash (not certain), but hopefully that's nothing that a downloaded app can't fix.
I have great browsing with Boat browser.
Trust me its a huge speed difference. You guys saying its barely noticeable are just lieing to yourselves. Its like comparing choppiness to butter. Yea there similar alright. Cmon now.
Aside from speed the flyer has a full 7 inch screen in complete use (gingerbread only) and a nice pen function going for it.
yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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yeah gotta agree with you. nexus 7 is faster. That feeling when I use my brother's Nexus7 and then i go back using my flyer ><
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Im in the EXACT situation haha
Flyer good...Nexus incredible!
I've had my Flyer for over a year and have been fighting rom issues since then, it is workable (except GPS...Shame on you HTC for not fixing this!). Side by side -I've had my Nexus for 3 days now, the nexus screen is brighter,better contrast- whites now look slightly yellowed on the Flyer. Nexus speed is much better(expected), BT, GPS, & WiFi all operate flawlessly. I am using a usb adaptor cable from Amazon ($2.00)! to further expand storage and also connects to other devices for file transfer and viewing.Battery life on the Flyer was a solid 4.5 hours with constant video loop running- I expect 2/3 to twice the run time with the Nexus. I have a rooted-32g Nexus...couldn't be happier at this point!
Final note- I side loaded Flash and it works well with Firefox Beta.:fingers-crossed: Update:Boat browser is very fast and stable, I usually have to reboot my Flyer a couple of times a day due to lag or sometimes freezing...not so with the Nexus.
The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
Oh, and as far as media consumption goes, the N7 can actually handle everything I throw at it. I can't even watch my vulkano in anything more than low res on the view. But the N7 I can put it to it's highest quality setting and it works great. Same with Hulu, and Netflix. As well as streamed content from my HTPC.
I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
1454 said:
The two aren't even comparable. The N7 blows the flyer/view4g away in every aspect. I have the Veiw4g and the N7, and I don't even use the view anymore. It's so slow and crappy, it's not even worth it. If you are thinking about getting the N7, just do it. The flyer is dated now, and it's not going to get any fast no matter what you do.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
So that means:
limited to no small amount of space
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect...
Less screen
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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You sir are corect N7 blows but not Flyer away but simply BLOWS; with no SD card, no stereo sound, no vibra, no front camera, no pen, no HW buttons; so wjhat extra from cpu and scree is there left at all? No sim?
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right? The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both. Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet? And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls. HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity. The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought) The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
So that means:
limited to no small amount of spaceYou are not limited, just not as easy to add storage as with the flyer/View
Cant do videocalls (good luck with mirrors)This is just flat wrong
No silent alert wheil in classes, meetings ect... Really? It doesn't have a LED, but it does still "alert", just on screen. How many alerts do you have set up on your tab? I have almost none. Mostly calendar appt's and such.
Less screenHow? If there is a difference(16:9 vs 16:10) its a matter of a .1 inch or so.
ect ect...
For mine usage of device it BLOWS unlike Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 wich is quite nice; more up to date device then Flyer and has that "magic" JB/ICS, wich Flyer doesent; but even with the JB ports we do have for Flyer we have more working hardware then Nexus have. And good luck with rearlly suported tegra games.
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet. I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
Snow_fox said:
I've played with the N7 at stores and it's pretty nice.
If Someone gave me one for free, I probably would use my flyer drastically less.
However, as much as I want project butter on my flyer I find that it would probably be a waste of money for me to personally upgrade. I'll still do the same stuff with either device.. Browse web, facebook, read books, and avoid pulling out a netbook when I can. So it raises the question why upgrade if I have a perfectly working device?
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Umm, they are coming out with a 3g N7, you realize that, right?
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cool but there is still non so it even lacks on 3g wich i didnt listed...
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The sound between the two is comparable, as I HAVE both.
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is comperable ofc but when u cant hear diference between stereo and mono i would recomend some examination of hearing
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Is having vibrate really necessary on a tablet?
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yes i need it badlly as i use mine 7'' tab for phone functionalities as well
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And it has a front camera, just no rear camera? I'm beginning to wonder if you have even used the device. It has a front camera specifically for video calls.
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I dont owe device i used it once when i was deciding wich second tab to buy and i decided for Samsung Galaxy 2 7''. Sorry since i forgot wich camera it does not have; but point stays - lacks on camera. Now ask me if we need it.. Do we need a tab?
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HW buttons are a matter of preference, but not a necessity.
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As nothing is NECESSERY - i simply love them and missing them on SGTAB 2. Hiting HOME when u in full scree app helps a lot with time and pressing.
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The pen I will give you, but when you can't even get HTC to FIX the crap they broke with the update, IT"S NOT WORTH DEALING WITH IT. I will never own another HTC device after HTC screwed us over on the tablets. (not to mention the year wait on getting ICS on my old Tbolt, or 8 months for the rezound I bought)
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U think i am happy with that?
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The SD card missing is a downer, but there are many workarounds that it's not a total loss. There is WIFI storage sharing (so I can use the 80GB I have on my phone between it's 64GB sd and 16 internal) Then there is USB OTG.
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Workaraund - i have superfast internet wire and PC to browse fast... What has that to do with mine Flyer or N7?
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I don't play games, but I haven't seen anything it can't do yet.
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I cant give u sdcard to share u mine documents with is prity common on all mobiel devices. U cant film your gf or take pic of her, u cant draw or handwrite, no way to listen to quality music since onlly suporting 1 chanel insted of minimum 2 for stereo.
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I would like to know how you figure there is more working hardware on the JB ports to the flyer/view than the N7? You have a rear camera/SD card. that's it. I have both. (actually, I have all three. View/Flyer/N7. The flyer is my Fiancees. and I have the View/N7.
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CORECTOMUNDO - u did figure it already with rear camera working SD slot but u forgot the pen and hw buttons we have stereo sound as well on JB and vibra working. All this is working on Flyer loaded with JB and is something N7 wont EVER have. Never Ever.
All i am saying is for what i need tab N7 sucks. Now if your onlly use of tab is a bit faster browsing i guess N7 is a winer buy. I unfortunally expect more. And there is much N7 does simplly not offer. Its not cheap for no reason I wont go into ghosting and cracking screens...
Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Right under his name it says "Location: Velenje"
I'm guessing his main language isn't english.
Pro-tip: Don't ask him to fix his english.
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i am in the same exact situation. i have a device that serves my needs (well i could benefit from bluetooth on the JB rom) and i keep looking for reasons to justify upgrading
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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Fix your English before you try to argue with a whole essay.
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Not arguing just saying mine points about flyer and n7 since some overrating and only a few good points about n7 beeing presented wheil only bad ones about flyer beeing pointed out. Looking forward to hear from you and where i posted any missleads or lies or non valid points.
As for mine english : yes i could put more time into what i am posting but hey looks like u understand right. Hows your Slovenian? I did something in mine life to understand u, what u did to understand me?
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Yeah, I still honestly love the build quality on the flyer and it still has a relatively nice screen.
Since you are on the JB rom, I need to ask did they get the screen to turn off properly yet? That was the only thing holding me back personally. As long as it has good battery life I am really considering using it.
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if you are referring to the backlight remaining on after locking the screen - it still occurs quite often. however, if i turn it on and off a few times it eventually completely turns off (can be quite annoying) i am really not sure of the battery life as i basically keep the flyer charged.
P.S. I recently had a few random reboots ( but only once while I was actually using it ) and it won't play HD YouTube - not that big o f a deal to me
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