Though my 920 tells me the Portico update is available I cannot download it. If I try to use the OTA it keeps insisting on using WiFi, but due to various factors at home I am unable to use WiFi so I thought it would swap to the mobile network but it will not do this. I also don't seem to have the Data Sense app that I thought controlled this kind of thing. I have the Windows Phone app installed on my PC but cannot see anyway of using that to update it?
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Though my 920 tells me the Portico update is available I cannot download it. If I try to use the OTA it keeps insisting on using WiFi, but due to various factors at home I am unable to use WiFi so I thought it would swap to the mobile network but it will not do this. I also don't seem to have the Data Sense app that I thought controlled this kind of thing. I have the Windows Phone app installed on my PC but cannot see anyway of using that to update it?
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unfortunately, wifi is the only way at the moment to update, try going out to a nearby starbux or a place that offers free wifi :\ Portico update does not download over mobile data due to the size I guess, similar to how the wp app store restricts apps above 100mb to wifi only
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unfortunately, wifi is the only way at the moment to update, try going out to a nearby starbux or a place that offers free wifi :\ Portico update does not download over mobile data due to the size I guess, similar to how the wp app store restricts apps above 100mb to wifi only
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Thanks for that clarification. Just having used iOS & Android previously I thought there would be a PC update option.
As an aside should I have the Data Sense app?
at the moment, it seems no phones have data sense because it also requires the carriers to support them. the only phones that I know have data sense are on Verizon US.
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at the moment, it seems no phones have data sense because it also requires the carriers to support them. the only phones that I know have data sense are on Verizon US.
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I found somewhere to download it and have now updated. The only thing is I wonder if the place I used had traffic shaping as it took forever to download and though it's a fairly large file it wasn't as big as the length of time it took to download, or is it possible the update servers were overloaded?
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Hi guys.
I own a HTC Ultimate (HTC Titan here in Brazil) and I'm suffering for something that bothered me before in the Windows Mobile 'age'.
As the major users of smartphones, I keep my cellular connection always on and at home, or other places, I turn on my WIFI.
What happened is that, for some reason, the applications after a while stop using the WIFI connection. I know that because I often use EDGE instead 3D.
If I turn off the Cellular network, everything keeps running smooth.
Is anyone having the same behavior? I didn't see this in my HD7, as far as I remember.
Regards,
Cris
cpimentel said:
Hi guys.
I own a HTC Ultimate (HTC Titan here in Brazil) and I'm suffering for something that bothered me before in the Windows Mobile 'age'.
As the major users of smartphones, I keep my cellular connection always on and at home, or other places, I turn on my WIFI.
What happened is that, for some reason, the applications after a while stop using the WIFI connection. I know that because I often use EDGE instead 3D.
If I turn off the Cellular network, everything keeps running smooth.
Is anyone having the same behavior? I didn't see this in my HD7, as far as I remember.
Regards,
Cris
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yep, I'm in.
For some reason, apps ( and browser) use 3G over wireless! I hate it and switch data to off :|
Will contact HTC to check soon.
The same for me ! I need to turn off cellular data to use wifi connection too often. I don't like it.
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anaadoul said:
yep, I'm in.
For some reason, apps ( and browser) use 3G over wireless! I hate it and switch data to off :|
Will contact HTC to check soon.
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The Facebook is the champion. If I turn on Wifi and then open it, it will use the Wifi. If I got back and return to the App.. no more Wifi, only Cellular network.
This is the same thing on Windows Mobile. Microsoft should learn something from the competitor where they just keep one network running at a time!
What bothers me is that I don't remember this occuring in my HD7. Will put my SIM on it and try to see what happens.
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Keep us updated please on HTC's reply. My 3G consumption is soaring every day
Evidence
I got an evidence yesterday that the OS is using Cellular Data while WiFi is on.
I used all my bandwidth on my plan, so Vivo as it's customers to keep a low speed or pay by MB used. This is done through the browser.
So I found that I was using the Cellular data while wifi is on when I opened the browser and receive the page from vivo asking me to choose wherever I wanna do use.
I don't know why MS still thinking that we wanna to shutdown thinks on phone to be able to use it properly. Why not implement like the others platforms where the OS just keep 1 way to connect to internet?
Amazing how they don't know how to advertise the product but know how to take away some pleasure to use the platform.
Hope they fix this in Apollo or a new OTA update. It's about time to show the users that indeed the phone can be updated OTA.
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cpimentel said:
The Facebook is the champion. If I turn on Wifi and then open it, it will use the Wifi. If I got back and return to the App.. no more Wifi, only Cellular network.
This is the same thing on Windows Mobile. Microsoft should learn something from the competitor where they just keep one network running at a time!
What bothers me is that I don't remember this occuring in my HD7. Will put my SIM on it and try to see what happens.
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I do remember having this problem on my Windows Mobile but i have NEVER faced it with Windows Phone 7 on my Omnia 7! This is something related to HTC not Microsoft.
Quick Heads up, this is my message to HTC.
NOTE: HTC TITAN is not available on the device list, i chose the RADAR as it the one that is close to it. THIS PROBLEM IS RELATED TO HTC TITAN WINDOWS PHONE 7.5.
Dear Support,
Me and a lot of others who bought the HTC Titan Windows Phone 7.5 are facing a strange problem with 3G and WiFi.
For some reason, even when im connected to WiFi with internet connectivity the phone uses the Data Services from the Mobile Operator!
The fix is simple, go to settings > Mobile Network > Disable Data.
but it is actually not a solution.
This bug doesnt happen all the time, sometime traffic goes into WiFi as it should and suddenly it stopps and starts going thorugh the Cellular network!
I would love to know the reasons behind this issue (Not only me who is having it) and how to fix it (if we can do our selves).
If it is not possible to fix by my self, when HTC is going to release a fix?
Kindly note that this is NOT a Windows Phone 7.5 problem as i DO own a Samsung Omnia 7 with OS 7.5 and i dont face this problem.
Your quick reply is highly appreceated
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I do remember having this problem on my Windows Mobile but i have NEVER faced it with Windows Phone 7 on my Omnia 7! This is something related to HTC not Microsoft.
Quick Heads up, this is my message to HTC.
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Take a look at this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/start/connecting-how-and-when.aspx
"Your phone will typically choose a Wi-Fi connection over a cellular data connection when they're both available."
I'm afraid of this "typically". In my opinion, the correct way is to choose Wifi OR Cellular Data. One network at a time.
This week I will try to run some 'tests' on my HD7. I really don't remember having to switch of the celullar data to use correctly the wifi.
Keep us updated.
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HTC Update
It looks like HTC has found the problem and is delivering an update for Titan. Can anyone confirm this?
Unfortunatly I own a Ultimate (Titan here in Brazil) and probably will take longer to Vivo test and delivery things =(
There is an update for the Titan, but I don't know if this includes the fix you are talking about, or if there will be another update?
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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HOW have you not heard of android wifi tether? One of the first reasons I had for rooting the first Android phone I got.
There's also Barnacle Tether, available on the play store.
Guess Barnacle is gone... but there are other tethering apps on the play store though.
And I'm wrong again. Barnacle is still there, but doesn't show up when I search from my phone. How curious.
Since your phone is rooted you can download wireless tether.
Google it and you will easily find the download link or even directly via the play store.
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HOW have you not heard of android wifi tether? One of the first reasons I had for rooting the first Android phone I got.
There's also Barnacle Tether, available on the play store.
Guess Barnacle is gone... but there are other tethering apps on the play store though.
And I'm wrong again. Barnacle is still there, but doesn't show up when I search from my phone. How curious.
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I appreciate the reply, but if you read my post again the issue I'm having is not an app to enable wifi tether directly on the handset, it's that the packet data is being detected as not from the phone so I get a message, on the computer, in the internet browser saying my priceplan doesn't include tethering. I cant get around this 3 website redirect. So, I need a way to tether, without the network knowing... The apps you mention work when the block is at the phone level I believe.... This is something different Three is doing..
Please correct me if I'm wrong though...
Oh, and as for the apps not showing up, the mobile phone providers asked google to block these apps for certain customers.. if you connect to a wifi network when in flight mode, and go the google market, you should still be able to see them...
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Since your phone is rooted you can download wireless tether.
Google it and you will easily find the download link or even directly via the play store.
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same issue, this app doesnt get around they way three is detecting tether usage :-(
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I appreciate the reply, but if you read my post again the issue I'm having is not an app to enable wifi tether directly on the handset, it's that the packet data is being detected as not from the phone so I get a message, on the computer, in the internet browser saying my priceplan doesn't include tethering. I cant get around this 3 website redirect. So, I need a way to tether, without the network knowing... The apps you mention work when the block is at the phone level I believe.... This is something different Three is doing..
Please correct me if I'm wrong though...
Oh, and as for the apps not showing up, the mobile phone providers asked google to block these apps for certain customers.. if you connect to a wifi network when in flight mode, and go the google market, you should still be able to see them...
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I WAS on wifi.
And did you ACTUALLY download the tether app and try, or were you using the tether built into the settings of Android? Because it sure doesn't sound like you downloaded the app...
And I don't have tethering on my carrier plan, but the tether app works just fine for me.
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I WAS on wifi.
And did you ACTUALLY download the tether app and try, or were you using the tether built into the settings of Android? Because it sure doesn't sound like you downloaded the app...
And I don't have tethering on my carrier plan, but the tether app works just fine for me.
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Initially when I first posted I was trying the built in app but I downloaded the app you suggested anyway, but it didn't work. would connect to the computer but no data connection. Unsure if its an app problem or still a three problem, but I don't see how this app would fix the three problem. Does it somehow mask the PC data connection??? I couldn't see anything in the settings or set up that suggest that it would, it just looks like a more feature rich wifi hotspot app?? In addition I found mention that that others with my issue have also tried these apps like barnacle and it didn;t resolve the problem....
helppme said:
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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They can suspend your service if they discover you are doing tethering on your device if you are not alowed in your current plan.
I Hope you wont have any issues.
Otherwise it is possible that the sim card lock the feature even on rooted phone when detect thetering or it is impossible ?
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They can suspend your service if they discover you are doing tethering on your device if you are not alowed in your current plan.
I Hope you wont have any issues.
Otherwise it is possible that the sim card lock the feature even on rooted phone when detect thetering or it is impossible ?
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yes I suppose they could do, but like I say I'm resolving this with my contract. It's more that I'm curious how they are doing it, and on principle don't like being told what I can and can't do
It can't be a sim lock.
I just tried tethering a Macbook, and amazingly that worked!.. SO, It must be something to do with the Packet Headers I'm guessing.. Or they are doing some other more detailed packet sniffing... It means there is definitely a software route around it... Need a clever developer to read this thread
I guess clockworkMod Tether might work, but I want a solution without a PC install..
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yes I suppose they could do, but like I say I'm resolving this with my contract. It's more that I'm curious how they are doing it, and on principle don't like being told what I can and can't do
It can't be a sim lock.
I just tried tethering a Macbook, and amazingly that worked!.. SO, It must be something to do with the Packet Headers I'm guessing.. Or they are doing some other more detailed packet sniffing... It means there is definitely a software route around it... Need a clever developer to read this thread
I guess clockworkMod Tether might work, but I want a solution without a PC install..
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That doesn't make any sense. If it works with a mac book, it should work with your windows machine too. Unless your windows machine has some kind of proxy?
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That doesn't make any sense. If it works with a mac book, it should work with your windows machine too. Unless your windows machine has some kind of proxy?
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no proxy.. I'm as confused as you. The headers are different on a mac though, Unix based system... Need to know how 3 detect at a network level its not phone data... this difference with a mac must be a clue...
pda net 3.50. Had to install pc software.. Is a USB tether solution.. but it works, so will do, until I get my price plan sorted.... Still would like a more elegant wifi solution though.. Come on you clever devs, .... SCRATCH that :-(((( It worked for 5 mins, now it comes up with same message in the internet Browser.. damn it!!! three are too smart :-(
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pda net 3.50. Had to install pc software.. Is a USB tether solution.. but it works, so will do, until I get my price plan sorted.... Still would like a more elegant wifi solution though.. Come on you clever devs, .... SCRATCH that :-(((( It worked for 5 mins, now it comes up with same message in the internet Browser.. damn it!!! three are too smart :-(
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Try proxoid.
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Try proxoid.
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They are blocking the port 80.. they sent you to their walled garden page. I think its on your provider proxy side now
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They are blocking the port 80.. they sent you to their walled garden page. I think its on your provider proxy side now
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Is there a way around this. What do you mean by, on the provider proxy side?
Shortly after PDA net stopped working, I was also getting the three message on the browser directly on my phone.. after about an hour, my phone web browser started working normall again :-(
helppme said:
Is there a way around this. What do you mean by, on the provider proxy side?
Shortly after PDA net stopped working, I was also getting the three message on the browser directly on my phone.. after about an hour, my phone web browser started working normall again :-(
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When you use thetering, you embark to the provider internet network.
for example my provider is Bell Canada and their proxy is web.wireless.bell.ca
this one is for the device internet
for the thetering one they use another configuration settings when i connect my device to the computer.
What happen is when you plug your device to the computer, a signal is sent to the provider stating you entered in thetering mode. You don't have access to thetering so your internet connection is limited to the walled garden of the provider stating you are not subscrided to the service. Thats why i think they blocked the port 80 on your device and redirect you to that page.
Now for the Macintosh story.. It is not impossible that you can connect without problem with a mac and safari. I know a lot of people emulating a handled device with the Mac and the safari browser and those peeps didnt had a thetering plan.
The differences came with the drivers installed. Mac OS one are quite different in term of functionality than windows, thats why maybe the provider is able to sniff more easily people using windows but i am not a senior programmer. I am currently taking courses to become one but for now it is only suppositions. If i am wrong feel free to correct me but I am quite sure about what i am saying and that's why you dont have issues with a mac
jsmasterx said:
When you use thetering, you embark to the provider internet network.
for example my provider is Bell Canada and their proxy is web.wireless.bell.ca
this one is for the device internet
for the thetering one they use another configuration settings when i connect my device to the computer.
What happen is when you plug your device to the computer, a signal is sent to the provider stating you entered in thetering mode. You don't have access to thetering so your internet connection is limited to the walled garden of the provider stating you are not subscrided to the service. Thats why i think they blocked the port 80 on your device and redirect you to that page.
Now for the Macintosh story.. It is not impossible that you can connect without problem with a mac and safari. I know a lot of people emulating a handled device with the Mac and the safari browser and those peeps didnt had a thetering plan.
The differences came with the drivers installed. Mac OS one are quite different in term of functionality than windows, thats why maybe the provider is able to sniff more easily people using windows but i am not a senior programmer. I am currently taking courses to become one but for now it is only suppositions. If i am wrong feel free to correct me but I am quite sure about what i am saying and that's why you dont have issues with a mac
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This sounds correct to me. I'm pretty annoyed though. Only had the contract a month, I was told I could move onto a more expensive plan within contract if I needed more allowance etc.. Phone up 3, not only do they not let you PAY MORE for a different plan, but they also don't let anyone shift onto the one plan ever, unless its a new contract.. So basically **** them... so even if I want to pay extra for tethering I can't... absolute nonsense...
I had the same issue with three. I downloaded masqued crusader from play store. Activated it and then started wireless/usb tether. It worked. That was a while back tho. On a payg sim card on a galaxy s on gb. Its worth a try though.
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Coming from android and a limited data plan. I miss my 3G watchdog. With this new phone Lumia 920 on WP OS I have no idea if im using my 4G or my wifi so i am paranoid and turn of my data unless i really need to download when i am on the move
Anyone, knows of an app similar to the 3G watchdog from android.
Thanks in advance
HA! Windows Phone 8 = good luck finding apps.
Even if it did exist, MS dont allow 3rd party apps to mess with system settings.
Welcome to your closed but slightly more open than apple garden.
thanks
liqn7 said:
HA! Windows Phone 8 = good luck finding apps.
Even if it did exist, MS dont allow 3rd party apps to mess with system settings.
Welcome to your closed but slightly more open than apple garden.
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Thankyou for your valuable comments
It seems like they got Wi-Fi usage right in WP8. If Wi-Fi is connected it will go over Wi-Fi unless someone were to code an application to specifically use just the phone modem (haven't seen that).
Problem is when your phone sleeps it automatically switches from wifi to mobile data.
No way to keep wifi on except leaving an app to constantly send data to maintain the wifi connection... thats a fail in my books
MJCS said:
It seems like they got Wi-Fi usage right in WP8. If Wi-Fi is connected it will go over Wi-Fi unless someone were to code an application to specifically use just the phone modem (haven't seen that).
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Well, almost right. I'm told that when on Wifi, and streaming music, and the phone goes to sleep, the WiFi will indeed shut down. And the streaming music will then revert to data. Upon waking, the streaming won't revert to WiFi.
This is one of the things that @JoeB from MS mentions will be fixed quickly.
Then WiFi will be better :victory:
Checkout Nokia Counters, you should see it in the Nokia Collection area of the marketplace
LE: I don't own an 920, my wife has an 800 on which I installed Counters, don't know if it's available on WP8 now
goixiz said:
Coming from android and a limited data plan. I miss my 3G watchdog. With this new phone Lumia 920 on WP OS I have no idea if im using my 4G or my wifi so i am paranoid and turn of my data unless i really need to download when i am on the move
Anyone, knows of an app similar to the 3G watchdog from android.
Thanks in advance
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Checkout Nokia Counters, you should see it in the Nokia Collection area of the marketplace
LE: I don't own an 920, my wife has an 800 on which I installed Counters, don't know if it's available on WP8 now
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It's not on WP8 yet.
There should be one
Coming from a Dev's perspective, I'm not sure why there isn't one.
There is a VERY easy set of methods/classes to use to check this kind of thing. I guess I'll have to put it on my list of things to do...
Its *supposed* to be built in - bit doesn't seem to be there on EE either - http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8/start/use-data-sense-to-track-data-usage
So just recently, my school re-did their whole Wifi, following this, they restricted access on almost everything, but their home website. I know you can get around this sort of thing using a VPN. However, I've tried a few VPN's and it seems they don't work because the VPN's API isn't availible? I assume this is because I'm running a custom ROM. So I was wondering, since I am running a custom ROM, is their a alternative thats possibly even better than using a VPN? I really can't just use mobile data since I've got a limit per month and its getting to that limit quickly.
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So just recently, my school re-did their whole Wifi, following this, they restricted access on almost everything, but their home website. I know you can get around this sort of thing using a VPN. However, I've tried a few VPN's and it seems they don't work because the VPN's API isn't availible? I assume this is because I'm running a custom ROM. So I was wondering, since I am running a custom ROM, is their a alternative thats possibly even better than using a VPN? I really can't just use mobile data since I've got a limit per month and its getting to that limit quickly.
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There are quite a few ROMs that still support VPN connections. But honestly, you're in the same boat as most corporate employees.
What most of us do? Use mobile data, wait until we go somewhere with free wi-fi or home.
Hi all
A while since posted but grateful for all info Ive learnt from this site re rooting etc.
Anyway my query...
What is different about these two settings?
first the background.....
I have a Nexus 4 with a contract that includes unlimited data and up to 4GB of tethering.
My provider has a website that shows a live figure for the amount of data ive used
Now the issue/question....
when I use the "portable wifi hotspot" on Kitkat I can tether my laptop or ps4 to it and it never registers any tethering use... Fantastic!
Then I updated to Lollipop and tried the same and it registers/uses all tethering unfortunately!
Not happy with this I rooted my nexus4 and reinstalled the official kitkat4.4 from the google developers website and thankfully its gone back to my network provider not being able to monitor my tethering use.
So what has changed?
Is there a way around this?
Im tempted to buy the samsung note 4 whilst its still on kitkat4.4 just purely for my tethering benefits but will there be software on that allowing the monitoring?
Thanks in advance for all/any help
Do you want to monitor the data which consuming from your device ?
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Do you want to monitor the data which consuming from your device ?
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No I dont want to monitor the amount of data Im using.
I want to continue tethering my laptop to my phones data plan without my network provider knowing, as I can with Kitkat4.4 but not with Lollipop5
Oh, I think it's cavity "lake" in kitkat an Google fixed it, in lollipop so you have to try finding a new method to do that. If you can explain more how you did that, I will try to help you.
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Oh, I think it's cavity "lake" in kitkat an Google fixed it, in lollipop so you have to try finding a new method to do that. If you can explain more how you did that, I will try to help you.
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Sorry Im not sure what cavity lake is.
As for how I did it. its simply the option in settings; wireless&networks; More; Tethering & portable hotspot; Portable Ii-Fi hotspot; Then I just ticked the box and it works perfectly, no method or extra apps required.
Its a UK issued nexus4 from google on a uk network if that makes any difference
Thanks
Maybe you should to install a hotspot app such as this app : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.core.technology.wifi.hotspot&hl=en .
msmlz said:
Maybe you should to install a hotspot app such as this app : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.core.technology.wifi.hotspot&hl=en .
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Thanks for the suggestion, luckily ive rooted my phone back to 4.4 so all is working OK I'm just interested to know why, maybe a change in monitoring/tracing software by google?
Anybody else have an idea?
Or advise if Sammy note4 works OK?
Hey, late reply but what network was able to monitor your usage after upgrade? I'm on UK network and my Xperia has just been offered the 5.0 upgrade but I don't want to upgrade if it will limit my tethering.