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I wanna know if anyone else has this issue or not when click an app like a game it takes up to 10 seconds for it to run and after exiting sometimes the main screen is very delayed and sometimes unresponsive when scrolling left and right. I also have an issue of the phone not wanting to switch back to 4g if in 3g or 1x just stuck until I reboot or restart it. Wanna know if I should get this one replaced or not. Also GPS is horrible never accurate. It say in running little kids on the sidewalk over constantly or running threw people house. I have factory data restored it but same problem. Need to know if I need new one?
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I wanna know if anyone else has this issue or not when click an app like a game it takes up to 10 seconds for it to run and after exiting sometimes the main screen is very delayed and sometimes unresponsive when scrolling left and right. I also have an issue of the phone not wanting to switch back to 4g if in 3g or 1x just stuck until I reboot or restart it. Wanna know if I should get this one replaced or not. Also GPS is horrible never accurate. It say in running little kids on the sidewalk over constantly or running threw people house. I have factory data restored it but same problem. Need to know if I need new one?
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It does happen. Try a different kernel or over clocking.
this happens to me occasionally, usually only when the battery is hot/doing a LOT of things at once. (meaning when i'm charging and using pandora over bluetooth, wireless tether, and waze at once) the phone lags up so much that when i press the home button, the haptic vibrate stays on for about 3 seconds.... this is when i know that its happening - and i'll just pull the battery...
If you're running stock & it's been like that since day one, you might consider exchanging it. If you're running a custom rom/kernel, reflash & leave it at default settings for a few days & see if the problems resolve
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I've never had the lag issue you speak of, however, the gps issue I have seen, but has been fixed in recent custom roms and will be addressed in the update. If you are on stock, you might want to just wait it out for 9 more days till the OTA rolls out. If you are using a custom rom/kernel combo, what are you using?
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If you're running stock & it's been like that since day one, you might consider exchanging it. If you're running a custom rom/kernel, reflash & leave it at default settings for a few days & see if the problems resolve
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I also forgot to mention that i'm on BAMF 1.8 with the kernel that it comes with.
If your rooted, i'd recommend unchecking your "set at boot" and profiles in SetCPU, reboot, and see if it continues. As said above, if unrooted... a call to verizon may be in order.
My phone is not rooted every phone I have rooted besides like 2 I have bricked. But yeah I don't get why they didn't run this stupid phone a dule core. I got to play with a phone that had a dule core and response is so amazing.
Then you should take it back to verizon & exchange it for another. Your Tbolt shouldn't be like that out of the box. I've never had GPS issues, even on stock it would lock within a few seconds. And dual core is overrated unless you have apps that actually take advantage of it (not many). No wonder you were impressed with dual core phones lol. My mildly overclocked Tbolt runs Sense just as fluidly as any Atrix runs MotoBlur
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Okay thanks I have been looking for an excuse to tell them basterds off.
Would these patches work with our Fascinates?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442032
There is a google specific patch that the developer claims should work with most phones on pretty much any ROM.
What do you guys think?
FYI this is what I posted in that forrum:
Holy GPS Batman! I flashed the google specific patch in cwm and now my phone locks into my position in like 2 seconds. Also, the accuracy is up to 3 meters, which I have never seen before in my phone, the best I have ever seen is 9.
So the patch has greatly improved the gps in my phone.
Samsung Galaxy S (note is not S II, it is the first generation galaxy S) on USA Verizon Network.
Thanks for the patches!
the google one works great and cuts my lock time in half when on a stock rom...on CM or MIUI it doesn't change anything but then again i haven't had a GPS issue with them in a long time.
So would this work on teamhacksung's ICS?
used the google patch on the powerwashed gingerbread. seems to be working well so far
I dont think it would make any difference on ICS. I have had faster locks on ICS than any other rom I've used. From a clean flash I got a cold lock in around 10 seconds and was down to 2 meters in under a minute...pretty fast IMHO
"the grave will provide plenty of time for silence"
What ICS rom/kernel are you using? links please?
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I dont think it would make any difference on ICS. I have had faster locks on ICS than any other rom I've used. From a clean flash I got a cold lock in around 10 seconds and was down to 2 meters in under a minute...pretty fast IMHO
"the grave will provide plenty of time for silence"
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Just wanted to say that I just flashed this on my Fascinate running SC3 Milestone 2 with the 1/16/12 KGB kernel and my gps locked on to, in my kitchen, 9 birds within 10 seconds accurate to 7 ft! I can say unequivocally that this phone has never been able to do that!
Hit my thanks button man!
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Just wanted to say that I just flashed this on my Fascinate running SC3 Milestone 2 with the 1/16/12 KGB kernel and my gps locked on to, in my kitchen, 9 birds within 10 seconds accurate to 7 ft! I can say unequivocally that this phone has never been able to do that!
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Hit my thanks button man!
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I hit the button, but I can't thank you enough for finding this patch and posting it!!! It's completely fixed one of the most glaring functionality problems this phone has had since the day I got it! Now it only takes 2 seconds to lock on from inside my house! Before flashing this, it wasn't a matter of how long it would take to lock on, it was a matter of it never locking on.
Between this patch, the SC3 GB rom and kgb kernel all the gps functions now work as they should have to begin with, with no lockups and instant gps lock. Nice!
Oh man I'm so glad, I had the same issue. Darn phone would never lock into my position.
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What ICS rom/kernel are you using? links please?
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Team hacksung ICS with the kernel that comes with it. its the first or second thread over on rootzwiki
"the grave will provide plenty of time for silence"
Hasn't helped me one bit. I can't lock a single sat. Weird thing is it works once in awhile, but then quickly stops working again.
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Try the google ALTERNATE patch. That one worked even better for me.
Same thing with the alternate patch. No locks. Wiped davlik and cache. Shut GPS off and turn it back on. Nothing. I think I have bad hardware. This issue is the only one I've consistently dealt with. Might be time for a new phone.
CM 7.1 build 112
Glitch v13
EH03 radio
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Same thing with the alternate patch. No locks. Wiped davlik and cache. Shut GPS off and turn it back on. Nothing. I think I have bad hardware. This issue is the only one I've consistently dealt with. Might be time for a new phone.
CM 7.1 build 112
Glitch v13
EH03 radio
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Perhaps your phone hardware is worst than average. Our phone have poor receiver sensitivity comparing to other phones such as the Mototorola DroidX, -3dB to -6dB less in everything - Radio, GPS, Wifi... AND touch-screen phantom buttons sensitivity.
The underlaying problem is poor analog grounding causing degraded performance in multiple subsystems.
Proof - the analog ground suffered huge conductive common mode interferences whenever the USB cable get plugged into the computer, the obvious display symptom is touch screen sensitivity gone to hell from having been plugged in...
You can optimize GPS configuration all you want but if the phone can't get decent enough signals it simply will not work.
One thing you can try is finding a kernel supporting leakage compensation, tweaking leakage compensation will reduce the internal wide band noise ripples on analog ground and improve receiver sensitivity.
Wow this explanation left my head spinning!! lol.
So what rom/kernel do you recommend? I am on miui with glitch 13.1 and very happy at the moment.
beray5 said:
Perhaps your phone hardware is worst than average. Our phone have poor receiver sensitivity comparing to other phones such as the Mototorola DroidX, -3dB to -6dB less in everything - Radio, GPS, Wifi... AND touch-screen phantom buttons sensitivity.
The underlaying problem is poor analog grounding causing degraded performance in multiple subsystems.
Proof - the analog ground suffered huge conductive common mode interferences whenever the USB cable get plugged into the computer, the obvious display symptom is touch screen sensitivity gone to hell from having been plugged in...
You can optimize GPS configuration all you want but if the phone can't get decent enough signals it simply will not work.
One thing you can try is finding a kernel supporting leakage compensation, tweaking leakage compensation will reduce the internal wide band noise ripples on analog ground and improve receiver sensitivity.
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Same thing with the alternate patch. No locks. Wiped davlik and cache. Shut GPS off and turn it back on. Nothing. I think I have bad hardware. This issue is the only one I've consistently dealt with. Might be time for a new phone.
CM 7.1 build 112
Glitch v13
EH03 radio
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get a new device..my fassy locks within seconds and is accurate to 5ft running the exact same setup.
Gotta try this, my gps is kinda spotty
Ok results!! Not good. First up is the google specific one, no satellites found.........nothing. No matter what I tried. Second the Google alternative one. This one found one satellite after about 5 minutes, another after 3 more minutes, then another 5 minutes and it went to zero and stayed there for about 15 minutes.
Well gotta find a stock gps.config file. At least it didn't brick my phone.
BTW I used the Root Explorer method i don't like flashing unknown stuff.
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Just wanted to say that I just flashed this on my Fascinate running SC3 Milestone 2 with the 1/16/12 KGB kernel and my gps locked on to, in my kitchen, 9 birds within 10 seconds accurate to 7 ft! I can say unequivocally that this phone has never been able to do that!
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i'm still confusing , which one do you use ?
trunk 3.x 2.x ?
the Google Specific
the Google Specific Alternate*
the Google Specific CWM Flashable
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anybody have a more focus clue for our fascinate and cwm ?
Hi Guys,
Im no Genius when it comes to android, but I have done my fair share of programming before, but my SOD are killing me and a last resort is a warranty exchange as I cannot be without a phone.
So far I have been getting SOD about 5 times a day if not more, and I am one for tinkering with gadgets until i break or crash it, fix it and doing it all over again.
But anyway back on topic
I have noticed this in the build.prop
" persist.ril.mux.sleep=2 "
And so I wondered if this is causing my SOD, does anyone have any ideas regarding its uses?
Findings (as of 2155)
In my testing thus far I have changed it to "persist.ril.mux.sleep=1" using phone leaving it for an hour doing it over just for fun, And I have been SOD for 5 hours straight and haven't had any SOD or adverse battery drain
I mean this may not be the cause of the SOD for me, or anybody but I am up for trying just about anything
What is SOD?
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Sorry, Sleep Of Death
I have SOD here too. To me it's only happens when I turned off a data connection (3G or wifi).
I use LoadMonitor app as a workaround for a while, with success.
At now I'm using Neutrino 2.5 CM7 ROM with success too. I think it's more a blur rom problem than cm7 one.
Let us know about your progress.
So if you disable load manager you would get SOD?
I am making a script to update a few things so far no SOD for me, after a few tweaks
What settings are you using on load manager ?
Any info you can give me will help in me tracking down some of the errors and temporary fixes people are using to avoid the dreaded issue
Oh, THAT's what that was!
I forgot to turn the wifi back on a few nights ago when I said "Hey, let's watch some movies on netflix with my super-duper mirroring-abled phone!" So an hour into it, LBE Privacy warns me I'm about to max out my data, and I go turn the damn wifi back on but turned OFF the 3G.
Then last night I go to wake up my phone and the screen is "black but on", & took a couple of tries to wake it. I'm on Nottachtrix.
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So if you disable load manager you would get SOD?
I am making a script to update a few things so far no SOD for me, after a few tweaks
What settings are you using on load manager ?
Any info you can give me will help in me tracking down some of the errors and temporary fixes people are using to avoid the dreaded issue
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I'm a bit confused here. I don't know what "load manager" is.
What a sad is I used LoadMonitor app (from market) as a workaround.
LoadMonitor just monitor taks that are running in your device. But it have an option that claims to prevent device deep sleep. So, when I checked this option my device don't get SOD.
It's a workaround, as I sad, and I don't know how LoadMonitor do that.
What is load manager?
Thanks
I had a similar issue, I installed SetCPU and set my minimum speed to ~456(faux 1.45 Kernel).
Never had the problem since.
cldot said:
I had a similar issue, I installed SetCPU and set my minimum speed to ~456(faux 1.45 Kernel).
Never had the problem since.
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cldot do you use blur rom or cm7 one?
Thanks
My bad meant load monitor
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I tried some roms and the only one I hadn't random reboots was jokersax11 alpha7 (ICI), now I'm on beta 0.2.0 and had reboots.
I'm having the same problem. I've tried 3 different ROMs. I used Nottachtrix, following the directions to the letter with reboots and hard locks. Recently I flashed back to 4.5.91 (w/pudding) and I was having the same issues. I noticed that on the hard locks, my phone appeared to be warm, so I used SetCPU at 216MHz and still had hard locks and random reboots. I've not set the lowest setting at 301 and so far I haven't had any reboots, but its only been about 5 hours. But I was having them at least once every few hours.
BTW - I also noticed that I only had the freezes and hard locks when the phone was running on the battery. I rarely had problems when the phone was on the dock or USB charger, however, I did have reboots when it was on the wall charger.
Another program you can try is call 'Wake Lock' available from the marketplace. I haven't used it yet, I'm still experimenting with load monitor.
Wake lock has a few different options and has some really good review.
I confirmed that Neutrino 2.5 CM7 Rom works great without reboots.
That's a patch you need to apply to correct a battery drain problem of the original version. Notorious544d are working in a 2.6 version including that patch.
To me it's working like a charm. I'm testing for two days but, of course, everyone needs to test it in your own device.
PS: Follow this instructions to install a battery drain patch in Neutrino 2.5 (or wait for a 2.6 version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23179486&postcount=4258
Update 13/03/2012: Notorious544d released Neutrino ROM 2.5p with battery patch and some other things.
See you!
what patch?
marcosvafg said:
I confirmed that Neutrino 2.5 CM7 Rom works great without reboots.
That's a patch you need to apply to correct a battery drain problem of the original version. Notorious544d are working in a 2.6 version including the patch.
To me it's working like a charm. I'm testing for two days but, of course, everyone needs to test in your own device.
See you!
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Could you point me to that patch? I can't seem to find it. Thank you
Sleep Of DEATH!!!
I was encountering that problem for a while but then I figured that something went wrong when I was flashing CM7 Beta. So I flashed Aura's ROM, and then Reflashed CM7 Beta and only experienced it once a month at most after that, Hope it helps
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Could you point me to that patch? I can't seem to find it. Thank you
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Follow this instructions (or wait for a 2.6 version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23179486&postcount=4258
Update 13/03/2012: Notorious544d released Neutrino ROM 2.5p with battery patch and some other things.
Atrix SOD & Random reboots related to Wifi?
Does anyone know if the Atrix SOD & Random reboots are related to WiFi. I've had my wifi off all day and I've had no crashes.
I'm going to run it for a few more days without Wifi and see what happens.
I don't know about other guys, but wifi and 3G was the cause of my Atrix SOD and reboot problems.
Solved it using Neutrino Rom CM7 based.
See you!
Still working on my SOD issue, but recently, I disabled most power options, turned off wifi, rebooted and I've been running for 2 days with no crashes. After day 3, I'm going to turn wifi back on reboot and see what happens.
Update 1
After 3 days with wifi disabled, I've had no crashes, no freezes or random reboots. I'm going to enable wifi again and see what happens.
Update 2
After turning enabling my wifi and using it briefly then turning it back off, I had a random reboot later that evening.
The more I used my wifi, the more frequent my crashes became.
Interesting side note
I can enable all my radios when plugged into the desktop charger and I won't experience any crashes, however, if plugged into to the AC charger, I've had reboots and freezes.
I have searched our Forum for anything on this phone overheating and there is one thread that I came across, but most people did not really have this issue at all. I mean in normal usage doing pretty much nothing my phone holds at 45-50C, given that is with all four cores operating, and if I play a game the cores have reached 70C and up, I am almost certain that is simply too high for this phone to be operating at. Also, even when I use eco mode the phone still idles around 40C and will reach temps as high as 64C. I am just wondering if I am alone or people have actually tested this also and have results similar to mine. I was hoping maybe there might be potential fixes for this or would I need to get a replacement device?
Don't have a great answer for you but I can tell you the phone has some safeguards in place. One that I am aware of is the screen brightness will self-dim until the phone temp drops.
Arlington- as in TX.?
Pony Express said:
Don't have a great answer for you but I can tell you the phone has some safeguards in place. One that I am aware of is the screen brightness will self-dim until the phone temp drops.
Arlington- as in TX.?
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Yeah, I live in Arlington, TX. Yeah, I noticed the self-dim feature, but that happens way too much, and too often, I mean I rarely get to use the phone at 100% brightness and no phone should be like that in my opinion. I am just curious if other people are dealing with similar issues, but I am checking eco mode now and my temps on idle are 36C-38C, its when I actually use my phone as a quad core phone, shocking, that it gets waaay hotter. I mean its hot on the back of the phone when I touch there and when I check the temp with an app. I feel I should be able to use my quad core as a quad core when need be, not have it get so hot its unbearable to hold, plus I don't want to do any damage with it reaching 70C temps.
Me, too in Arlington.
I would definitely say based on that it would be a good idea to exchange it, those temps are a bit much.
All og's get hot like that when playing games, etc. It is just how it is designed - like it or not / love it or leave it, lol.
I would have preferred they make the phone a little thicker with more heat sink so it could run full speed all the time when needed.
But they didn't. So, oh well. Maybe my next phone will fix that someday.
Jason
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Me, too in Arlington.
I would definitely say based on that it would be a good idea to exchange it, those temps are a bit much.
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Darn, I was hoping for something else, ha. Oh well, guess I will be dealing with that then, meh.. By any chance could you tell me your temps you are getting? So, I know what is normal for the device?
With 5 mins. light use (wi-fi, web, phone call, 2 texts, no gameplay) 25.4 C
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If you are using a phone for AT&T network on T-mo, it is possible that is adding to the temp prob, not an expert here just an educated guess that the more it tries to find network signal the warmer it may get.
Pony Express said:
With 5 mins. light use (wi-fi, web, phone call, 2 texts, no gameplay) 25.4 C
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If you are using a phone for AT&T network on T-mo, it is possible that is adding to the temp prob, not an expert here just an educated guess that the more it tries to find network signal the warmer it may get.
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Yes, but this happen on wifi only with data and no sim card installed, I am waiting to get an at&t sim card, lol. Shouldn't have done it online, but it cost 99 cents, instead of $15 bucks in the store.
Good call... hope it helps !!
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Good call... hope it helps !!
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Well, the strange thing is that I reverted back to stock everything, no root, or unlocked boot loader, and my overheating issue has been solved.. Weird. I only get around 35C even doing a benchmark with all four cores running at the same time. I think the Base rom and kernels still have some bugs that need to be worked out. I idle at 22C now, woot!
Glad to hear that!! Nice work.
am using the new build from Team Nocturnal with no probs. You might want to read through the thread first as some are having issues.... point is, no overheating and battery life seems good so far.
One thing I learned by testing, even going to the extent of exchanging my phone 2 days ago - if you charge your phone while it is off and unplug the charger it will drain the battery because it does not shut down the charge animation. The workaround is to simply turn the phone on and let it boot, either leave it on or then it is ok to turn off.
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Glad to hear that!! Nice work.
am using the new build from Team Nocturnal with no probs. You might want to read through the thread first as some are having issues.... point is, no overheating and battery life seems good so far.
One thing I learned by testing, even going to the extent of exchanging my phone 2 days ago - if you charge your phone while it is off and unplug the charger it will drain the battery because it does not shut down the charge animation. The workaround is to simply turn the phone on and let it boot, either leave it on or then it is ok to turn off.
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Oh wow, I did not even know that was an issue, ha, well, thanks for the heads up on that and I think I have to send my phone off to LG sadly, according to AT&T, but when I get it back I will be looking into their new base rom, I did skim the thread a little, and I am glad to hear there is no overheating. I am not sure if it was a kernel issue or the base rom itself, which is puzzling.
You may have selected Sk8's kernel during The Base's installation. I can't speak for it myself, but it's different than the stock kernel and may have been causing the problem?
Speculation at best.
No worries, Its what I am doing right now, just speculating, I mean I actually selected both kernels in the base rom, and tested them out. I was trying to figure out what the issue was. I think it might not have left me do a clean install, as I did select Sk8's Kernel first. So, I am thinking that the kernel stuck, even when I did a full wipe, before reinstalling and using the other kernel. I also was getting Kernel crashes, and it kept showing up a kernel crash screen, and asked me to go into download mode to store the dump file on my computer. I am new to android/Linux things, I am far more familiar with Windows based things, but android is the freedom OS of mobile devices. I like the customizations and things you can do with it, lol. Its sweet, and I am learning everyday, so that I can possible become a Dev later on. I have ported some things before and I know other forms of coding, just not the required programming languages for Linux.
My guess would be Sk8's kernel as well, I know it has the gpu overclocked, so if you are running graphics intensive apps it doesn't surprise me that you can be getting overheating issues.
Maybe try the bootloader unlock again to reinstall the freegee kernel...
Just a suggestion.
bleached45 said:
My guess would be Sk8's kernel as well, I know it has the gpu overclocked, so if you are running graphics intensive apps it doesn't surprise me that you can be getting overheating issues.
Maybe try the bootloader unlock again to reinstall the freegee kernel...
Just a suggestion.
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v1:
- initial release
v2:
- added GPU OC and UV settings
v2.1
- revert GPU settings until i get them more stable
- add voltage control via sysfs (use system tuner to select your custom UV settings)
- fix the black screen issue for alot of users
v2.2
- fast_charge on usb (icon will still show as slow charge but it will actually charge faster)
- cpu tweak to enable use of all freqs in high stress times like games and benchmarks
^ That is the change log for Sk8's Kernel, the gpu isn't overclocked anymore, it was in the initial release. So, I know its not that, and as I stated in a previous post I tried both of them, but even when I wiped everything, I think that Sk8's kernel was sticking. The reason I say this is even after a fresh install and selecting Freegee Kernel during installation, when the rom booted back up it would show Sk8's Kernel, and I would get Kernel crashes, which would also lead to a Crash screen, asking me to go into download mode to save the dump file. Though even after messing with that and monitoring it for several days, its hard to tell what it was, but I do know I am not having the issues anymore when I brought everything back to stock, I can assume it was one of the kernels, a combination, the base rom, but I am not 100% sure.
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^ That is the change log for Sk8's Kernel, the gpu isn't overclocked anymore, it was in the initial release. So, I know its not that, and as I stated in a previous post I tried both of them, but even when I wiped everything, I think that Sk8's kernel was sticking. The reason I say this is even after a fresh install and selecting Freegee Kernel during installation, when the rom booted back up it would show Sk8's Kernel, and I would get Kernel crashes, which would also lead to a Crash screen, asking me to go into download mode to save the dump file. Though even after messing with that and monitoring it for several days, its hard to tell what it was, but I do know I am not having the issues anymore when I brought everything back to stock, I can assume it was one of the kernels, a combination, the base rom, but I am not 100% sure.
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Shows what I know, lol.
I was going by what I read for the Base ROM Aroma installer description, maybe the Base is still using an old version, but if you installed it on your own, then you should have been the latest.
Sorry, lol.
Hey folks,
New guy here, just picked up a new LG Optimus G on AT&T yesterday afternoon to replace my aging Samsung GS2. This was a somewhat quickly made decision (for me anyway) so I haven't done as much research on the LGOG as I typically do before purchasing a new device...it's quite possible I missed something stupid. If so, flame away...
As of right now, I'm stock/unrooted, with a small number of primary use apps installed. While screwing around getting familiar with the device yesterday, I noticed a high level of msm_hsic_host wakelocks, with an apparently related but smaller amount of suspend_backoff wakelocks in Better Battery Stats. CPUSpy indicated approximately 25% deep sleep for the run, which was about10 hours from purchase to going to bed - with a partial charge in the middle.
This concerned me slightly, so I let the device charge overnight, then unplugged this morning and let her go on a screen-off draindown test. Did a 50 minute run, which resulted in zero battery drain (still at 100% for a few moments when I lit the screen up at the end of the run) but ZERO deep sleep. The vast majority of the run was spent at 384 MHz, with small amounts at 1512. This run was done while on an ATT microcell for calls and WiFi on for data (set to stay on with screen off). Background data was on. While I am quite impressed that I'm seeing 1-2% drain per hour with no deep sleep, I have to believe this is not how the device is supposed to operate.
Prior to buying the LGOG, while looking at the forums here, I noted that Jank4AU was here - a name I recognized from the Aria and SGS2 forums. He provided an excellent overview of the device (via PM - Thanks Jank4AU) and mentioned the need for rooting to disable fast dormancy, which apparently AT&T, in their infinite wisdom, left enabled by default, to improve battery life. My limited experience with chasing wakelocks indicates that HSIC is likely radio related. Is this msm_hsic_host wakelock triggered by the fast dormancy system? My searches have turned up little to indicate either a yes or a no...
forum search turns up this (partially related??): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144927&highlight=msm+hsic+host
Google search turns up a bit more, but very Nexus 4 focused (I realize they are similar devices -- possibly similar fixes??):
https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mobile/jO65dcM7J2Y[1-25-false]
On the sprint version (wifi related for us too? WiFi off drain test is next for me I think.): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106529
It looks like Thracemerin is chasing it in kernel development for 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102986 Is this less of an issue on JB than on the stock ICS for our devices?
At any rate, I'm still digging though the ROM threads, but will likely be rooted and maybe off stock by the end of the day today. I'm looking forward to spending some time with the LGOG community, and hopefully I'll be able to contribute meaningfully at some point!
Sorry for the great wall o' text...
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Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
gunnyman said:
Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
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Interesting. Can you elaborate on what may be different, set up wise, between yours and your wife's phones? Particularly radio/Wi-Fi settings or presence/absence of Wi-Fi use environments?
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Nothing different between our phones bloatware frozen. She spends a lot more time away from wifi than I do. I just disabled fast dormancy and installed better battery stats on both of our phones. I'll keep an eye on things and compare both at the end of the day
I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
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Thanks for the input folks, looks like it's time to root for me. FWIW, I tried running with wifi off, and saw small (8ish) percentage deep sleep.
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I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
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Hmmmm...if I understand you correctly, you're seeing the opposite behavior of those two above? I am also in a Non-LTE area...be interesting to see what I see.
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Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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Sweet. I'm missing Google Now an awful lot...I'm thinking a switch to the SnowJB ROM might be in order...appears that has "built-in" fast dormancy "fix" - I assume this means it's disabled by default on that ROM.
Got revert to stock all set up on my PC, so now I get to go root. This will be the soonest after purcahse I've rooted a new device (previous quickest was 4 days for the SGS2). Thank you all for the warm and helpful welcome to the LGOG device forums!
Edit: just out of curiosity, what do you guys typically see for deep sleep percentages? On the SGS2 85% or so was about my average on ICS with my full complement of apps and background data running. That dropped to 75-80% with Google Now running in the background.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050582
The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
I am seeing the opposite of some of the others in a way.... I can't say that disabling FD hurt me and I can't say that enabling it helped me. All I can say for sure is in my case it doesn't seem to make any difference one way or another.
Also, the FD toggle app doesn't require root. Not that you shouldn't root, just that you don't need to in order to try this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050582
The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read this I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read thCFC I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
Edit: OK, first dumb question of my time here (won't be the last): Is there a key combo to get into recovery? Google pointed me to either vol-/power or vol+/home/power. Neither of these worked for me, all I can seem to get with keys is fastboot. Had to ADB into recovery to make my backup...gonna flash SnowJB once that's done.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Good deal, that SnowJB is pretty smooth.
Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Gotcha...thanks. I have quickboot now, so all good. knowing that combo is nice in case I get in a pinch sometime though and am working from stock without ADB available (hopefully that never happens ). Is that button combo/hidden menu stuff posted somewhere? If so I missed it. Might be a good thing to add to one of the "read me first" kinda stickies (assuming it's not already there and I missed it)...
Edit: And first short duration drain test after root/unlock/SnowJB1.1 is giving me 68% deep sleep - with GNow enabled and full complement of apps (a bunch more apps than previous test).
Edit 2: Initial 3 hour test after SnowJB install - 5% total battery drain over 3 hours, including 20 minutes screen on for browsing. 70.4% deep sleep, with minimal (1min 30sec) running at max CPU. I'm used to seeing 5% drain just from that much screen on time, so this is excellent performance in my book!
Oddly enough,my phone was kept awake by msm_hsic_host wakelock for over 7 hours last night. I'm abroad at the moment, with my phone in airplane mode all the time, wifi was turned off during that time, and the fast dormancy toggle was doing its thing. Weird. I'll see if it happens again tonight.