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First of all, great site. Congratulations to all those involved with and to those who contribute to it.
I've owned this lill' gem for a week now and wow. I love gadgets!!
BUT...
SMS - I've checked out a Arabic/English site http://www.ppc4arab.com/~unclef/sendsms/index.html
claiming to count your charactors as you type away. Has anyone used this software or downloaded it OR can suggest a better program?? AND if I do decide to get it, find it's garbage, can I get the original software back?
Cell site - Is there a download for finding what cell site you're currently conected to? My skanky ole Nokia 3310 comes with this facility and it would make my calender year if this feature could appear on my "today" screen.
Don't be too hard on me. As I said I've owned the Qtec 1010 for a week and this is my first posting. Any advice would great.
ORIGINALLY from this thread: ( i just want to help to have more signature )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294213
http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html
To: Microsoft
This Petition aims to show the support for xda-developers.com's archive of 'ROM Images'
The Undersigned wish to notify Microsoft Corp. of their strong feelings against the recent demands to remove the 'ROM Images'. We feel that they bring more publicity and support to the 'Windows Mobile' platform and device: without this we feel they would not be as popular as they are to this date.
Please think rationally Microsoft!
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
This is an old and sensitive issue. This is not solely Microsoft's decision. Microsoft's Windows Mobile is bundled with Manufacturer's device under operators/distributors specification. This is a three-way agreement. Microsoft can not sell you the OS, because the device drivers is built by third party.
The reason for its removal from this site is the consequences of flashing an unofficial ROM. Some damn users don't know what they are doing... Flash their devices with custom ROMs, brick their devices unnecessarily, claims warranty to operator/distributor, and even sometimes demand support to an unofficial ROM.
Simply stated, if your were in their shoes, what would you do?
In the same manner, we, the users who understand the situation, are left with devices with very little or no support when new devices come out. We were sold with devices that cost like a PC, and NO OPTION to buy an upgrade from them.
And what are we supposed to do? buy again another device with the new software? That's plain bull.
So, your campaign is pointless! In the end, what really matters to them is the bottom line.
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This is an old and sensitive issue. This is not solely Microsoft's decision. Microsoft's Windows Mobile is bundled with Manufacturer's device under operators/distributors specification. This is a three-way agreement. Microsoft can not sell you the OS, because the device drivers is built by third party.
The reason for its removal from this site is the consequences of flashing an unofficial ROM. Some damn users don't know what they are doing... Flash their devices with custom ROMs, brick their devices unnecessarily, claims warranty to operator/distributor, and even sometimes demand support to an unofficial ROM.
Simply stated, if your were in their shoes, what would you do?
In the same manner, we, the users who understand the situation, are left with devices with very little or no support when new devices come out. We were sold with devices that cost like a PC, and NO OPTION to buy an upgrade from them.
And what are we supposed to do? buy again another device with the new software? That's plain bull.
So, your campaign is pointless! In the end, what really matters to them is the bottom line.
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bro this is not my campaign, im just supporting this.
Thanks for the explanation,.
Feh, Microsoft just doesn't want unsupported devices floating around. <_<
And seriously, the custom ROM excuse is... crap.
It's similar to the case of a laptop owner having his warranty voided because he ran Linux instead of Vista (he later got his warranty repair anyway).
I know it's a PDA but I expect the folks who make the stuff to be better than trying to lock people down into a walled garden. -.-"
Especially a brand such as O2 who sell the product then dont provide a decent OS or service to go with it! These are our devices we paid for them we extracted the OS's to build or rebuild a better quality rom, from what I have seen nobody has asked for money or otherwise! Lets face it MS arnt going to break their budget over a handful of ppl cooking and sharing a few upgraded roms.
This was an old thread.. Feb.
It now really does not or really concern as all the rom is for evaluation and testing. As long we agree to flash it to the so-call required version, and even it spoilt, we fix ourself
Mine's out of warranty. The only thing I wish right now is that O2 actually releases the service manual.
Dont forget someone needs to pay for the software
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homer285 said:
Especially a brand such as O2 who sell the product then dont provide a decent OS or service to go with it! These are our devices we paid for them we extracted the OS's to build or rebuild a better quality rom, from what I have seen nobody has asked for money or otherwise! Lets face it MS arnt going to break their budget over a handful of ppl cooking and sharing a few upgraded roms.
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Let's see, I have setup the download center for the XDA Atom WM6 AKU0.7 to see the statistics... as of this date, there are 3,349 downloads....
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Let's see, I have setup the download center for the XDA Atom WM6 AKU0.7 to see the statistics... as of this date, there are 3,349 downloads....
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briliant jiggs,.
Hi Guys,
Don't forget that windows mobile is a copy written bit of software. Someone needs to pay for it. Normally the vendor pays Microsoft for the license for your device. That's fine for the initial release. However notice that only products that are still being sold get an updated rom? Why's that.... Because the vendor still wants to sell that device. Once its out of production no rom upgrades... funny that. Its the trend for all consumer electronics. Its all about pushing sku's or stock unit items. Remember that all these company's are in the game to make money.
How can o2 make any money by making a rom upgrade available to a new OS when they need to pay Microsoft for the OS and they cant make any more money as the unit is out of production.
I think the whole thing is silly. I have an atom exec that is still faster than many of the "new" mobile 6 devices with older processors but no officially upgrade option. I am not going to dump my perfectly good atom exec to something else for no reason but I want mobile 6.
What needs to happen, so everyone is happy and gets their $$ is that o2 should offer an upgrade service. I'd be happy to pay for an upgrade rom that way both O2 get their slice and Microsoft get their $ for the software.
*We should be pushing o2 to offer an upgrade service with a price tag to produce the new roms. Its never going to happen for free.* Microsoft don't give software away for free if you haven't noticed. It should be much cheaper than buying a new PDA with pretty much the same(or lower) specs as they haven't really moved in hardware they just keep moving buttons around.....
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Boy. HP used to do this before wm2k3se to wm5. How I wish it existed, then I didn't get to waste 5 mos of my life just to make the upgrade myself. BUT, the bottom line is much better with the new devices...
How much percentage of users really do flash their devices with the 'test' ROMs?
Just that the guy who quoted the above would know... the official wm5 ROM for the Atom really sucks!!!
Hi Everyone,
Please comment and contribute to the poll.
Question is whether you would pay £5 to recieve a windows 7 upgrade for HTC HD2
This poll and the comments made are going to be used as a petition to try and get HTC to release an upgrade for all us HD2 owners.
I'm pretty sure that HTC would release an upgrade if people paid for it so please comment and answer the poll
Thanks Everyone
i voted NO because i hate an os that doesn't let you change stuff ( at least thats what the latest news was on that )
after 6.5 i'll turn to Android
As long as I can still hax it and have Android.
webjunky said:
i voted NO because i hate an os that doesn't let you change stuff ( at least thats what the latest news was on that )
after 6.5 i'll turn to Android
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Indeed, someone would have to pay me a heck of a lot more than £5 to have WP7
I'd say no on the basis they've stated it won't happen, I'd imagine it'll cost more than £5 per user at their end also
first of all I voted no! even if HTC will pay me 600€ ,I don't will WP7
Fore doing what? first of al I don't like the UI (if we can speak of a UI)
secondly it's to limited.
ow fore give you a answer, HTC wouldn't release a official ROM update fore the HD2 To WP7! It's not authorized by Windows. there are strict ruels.
But you will find cooked roms here.
i dont see whats so special about W7
I had alredy paid 755€ why should I pay 5€ more or should not
but I prefer to donate 10€ to XDA when NAND is realised. (I'm likly hearing your voices -why 10€- because I'm just a simple student)
You REALLY think HTC will take notice of a little petition like this - especially when they've just announced their line of WP7 devices? lol
Really, what is the point of this thread.
If you're that desperate to have 7 on your HD2, just wait for a hacked ROM to appear (then enjoy it's limited functionality!)
No never
Why?
Because i didn't have a credit card lol
And 1thing
U know ,actually i'll be going to NAND Android
WP7 is bull****
if they let me dual boot back to WM 6.5.x yeah
Aditya7 said:
Hi Everyone,
Please comment and contribute to the poll.
Question is whether you would pay £5 to recieve a windows 7 upgrade for HTC HD2
This poll and the comments made are going to be used as a petition to try and get HTC to release an upgrade for all us HD2 owners.
I'm pretty sure that HTC would release an upgrade if people paid for it so please comment and answer the poll
Thanks Everyone
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No. More than one reason, but one of the main reasons is: TETHERING
tethering is supported
No tethering in WP7
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tethering is supported
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Not according to this post on CNET...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20017576-56.html
I would pay. I don't see how so many can be against an OS they've never used. You've seen videos. That's it. I liked WM 6.5. I didn't like Android until I thoroughly used it. I'll invest $8 to give a new OS a shot.
However, this exercise is moot. If HTC released this on HD2 they would have to support it.
Microsoft would never license it on a phone that doesn't meet Win Phone 7 specs.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
I wouldn't.
I don't trust MS enough that they will support this OS for more than a year or two.
Android has support across the world.
what? no multitasking? no nothing i should say, i thought microsoft would do something extraordinary with WM7 to catch up with android, instead they copied and pasted the 1st iphone version.
Finallt i say WINDOWS MOBILE IS DEAD, LONG LIVE ANDROID.
definitely yes
I absolutely would pay 5 pound to upgrade my HD2
As long as it will not effect on the android Os.
5 pound would be nothing comparing to have a completely new OS.
always trying new thing is good. so, Why Not ????????
n_god said:
I had alredy paid 755€ why should I pay 5€ more or should not
but I prefer to donate 10€ to XDA when NAND is realised. (I'm likly hearing your voices -why 10€- because I'm just a simple student)
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1.5 milyar'mi, oha. Türkiye pahalli be kardes
OT: This thread is totally useless, do you really think HTC will consider this? Devs are currently working on it, so you'd better ask whether people would donate developers if they would have managed to get WP7 working on the HD2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSRFA4eYhw8
Maybe if Microsoft received a few emails that most HD2 users will jump to android then maybe they will think twice about it and force HTC to do a free upgrade. Regarding £5 its not too much to pay but it should be free.
Hi guys,
I'm new on Java. But I'm good a bit on Linux. So I can develop nice tools for Android like overclock tools, backup restore tools etc.
I want to sell paid apps on market. But my country is not supported by google to selling apps.
Should I wait or switch to Windows Phone development?
How can I be sure if my country will be supported next days?
Really confused.. Waiting for your comments.
I had no coding experience at all, but I wanted to learn Windows Phone app development, so I headed to their website, installed some program on computer and then took some guides on their website, and it was actually pretty easy. There were tools and shortcuts and many guides on Windows website. Also WP is a very simple yet beautiful OS.
Also Windows Phone is rising fast, already 100 000 apps, and looks really, so you could earn a lot.
I suggest you try the Windows Phone development and see for yourself. Though if you don't have a Windows Phone wait til WP8 is released since they can't upgrade WP7 to WP8 and it's always good with the latest.
I don't know where you can see which counties will be supported for Play Store but I'm sure Google has it somewhere. You could try Amazon App Store (coming to EU soon) and sell your apps on there.
Does this mean you can't have ads in your apps too?
I know everyone hates ads but if you put them in the right places they can be really nice to watch more than a pain. Like when the app is buffering/loading there could be ads.
That's all I had to say, thank you for listening.
(after a month of just playing around with no progress at all I quit, but that doesn't belong to here I'm just very lazy and I didn't have any real ideas back then, though after the summer I'm gonna learn coding and then I will make my own WP apps again)
I have been out of the Windows development scene since Windows Mobile 6.5 and have just picked up a Nokia Lumia 920 and am itching to jump back in with augmenting the app availability. I trolled through the Microsoft WP8 site and am ready to pull the trigger on their dev program.
Before doing that, I wanted to check in here to see how other's foray into this has gone, since WP8 is so new. I have my Windows 8 Pro PC setup with VS 2012 and am in the process of pulling in the SDK.
Any words of wisdom, gotch yas, etc. from folks already down the rabbit hole?
liquidcaffeine said:
I have been out of the Windows development scene since Windows Mobile 6.5 and have just picked up a Nokia Lumia 920 and am itching to jump back in with augmenting the app availability. I trolled through the Microsoft WP8 site and am ready to pull the trigger on their dev program.
Before doing that, I wanted to check in here to see how other's foray into this has gone, since WP8 is so new. I have my Windows 8 Pro PC setup with VS 2012 and am in the process of pulling in the SDK.
Any words of wisdom, gotch yas, etc. from folks already down the rabbit hole?
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I am sorry I don't have any words of wisdom for you, but if you do find yourself developing apps etc.. I would certainly be willing to show my gratitude with some small donations here and there should I decide to go this route.
Thanks in advance!
charlatan01 said:
I am sorry I don't have any words of wisdom for you, but if you do find yourself developing apps etc.. I would certainly be willing to show my gratitude with some small donations here and there should I decide to go this route.
Thanks in advance!
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I'm hoping to get involved in Windows Phone 8 development myself since the app market seems brimming with opportunity, although I was a bit disappointed that it seems like you have to have windows 8 to use the windows phone 8 SDK (unless there is another version I couldn't find). I'll have to wait until my next pay check before I can purchase a new copy of Windows 8.
In the meantime, has anyone been able to get the tethering option working on a locked off contract at&t phone? I'm using mine with Straight Talk, which allows tethering, but the ROM loaded on my AT&T nokia blocks users from tethering. Is there anyway of bypassing that via hack, or by loading firmware from a different region?
beebop483 said:
I'm hoping to get involved in Windows Phone 8 development myself since the app market seems brimming with opportunity, although I was a bit disappointed that it seems like you have to have windows 8 to use the windows phone 8 SDK (unless there is another version I couldn't find). I'll have to wait until my next pay check before I can purchase a new copy of Windows 8.
In the meantime, has anyone been able to get the tethering option working on a locked off contract at&t phone? I'm using mine with Straight Talk, which allows tethering, but the ROM loaded on my AT&T nokia blocks users from tethering. Is there anyway of bypassing that via hack, or by loading firmware from a different region?
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You shouldn't wait too long to upgrade to Win 8. They have some pretty awesome deals right now.
Here's a tip. Get the Windows Phone 8 Development Internals (preview) book before Dec. 18 for only $20 (You've missed the $10 deal). http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0790145373342.do Get dirty and share your apps