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And for my 1000th post I wish to impart upon you all the knowledge I have just gained this afternoon.
If you upgrade you can keep your unlimited data if you add a home phone line for $20/mo. according the the guy at the Verizon store today.
Went in there to try to get my phone replaced under warranty, which they wouldn't do since it has a cracked screen, threatened to leave VZW and was offered an early upgrade. After I asked if my plan would change he said yes, it would go down to 2gb, but then he told me if I added a home phone line I could have unlimited. I have a home phone with AT&T so I'll just port my number over and I'll be set. (I did buy a Magic Jack that I keep forgetting to hook up but I can sell that and hopefully get a refund for the months of service I paid for.)
EDIT: The phone service is a wireless service. According to jayochs it's called Home Phone Connect.
You mean a land line?
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You mean a land line?
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EDIT: Nope. It's wireless phone for your home, you use a regular phone on a wireless thing.
I will have to do that next time
Last upgrade (when I upgraded to the rezound) my unlimited data carried over, and the lady said that she had never seen that happen before, but I will have to try this if they try to take it away)
I call fibs
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That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
chaos254 said:
That's some shady **** right there. I have unlimited and had my phone replaced under warranty with no issues. Don't go into the store when doing warranty stuff.
I wonder if Verizon is offering incentives to their store employees to get people off unlimited data. This isn't the first time I've heard of them telling ppl they won't warranty a phone if they don't switch off unlimited
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
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I dont believe it!!! I work for verizon communications (non wireless) and never heard of that. The only thing wireless does for us is fios. Was it a copper landline or fios? Either way if you kept your unlimited data, thats great! Did they give you a contract on the landline?
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I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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Sorry, didn't mention my screen is cracked. He said if he did it I'd just get charged for it later so they don't do it anymore.
I'd have to buy a wireless router/receiver(?) for $12 and the phone service is wireless. So technically I guess it isn't a land line... it's home phone service, $20/mo., call waiting, caller ID, nationwide calling...
Still thinking it through and wondering if that's better to pick up a new phone with new contract or buy a used one and keep unlimited without adding the home phone line. Plus I have to decide between the 2 phones he offered me for the same price but I don't want to hijack my own thread.
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that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
jayochs said:
that's called home phone connect. it's a little box that you can bring anywhere and it uses verizons network to make calls, but you can plug normal landline phones into it.
lol my store gives those boxes away for free. you just have to pay that 20 a month, and you get the reciever for nothin
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Well why don't you come open your damn store in Los Angeles then???
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That makes more sense than a land line! They have an ETF if you cancel before 2 years on the home phone connect right?
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yeah i think so..it's added like another line to your acct, just like a tablet/jetpack etc
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Well there goes my plan of trying to do that cancel thingy like on the hotspot and keep my unlimited. Doesn't sound like it would've worked anyway, seems any change triggers the loss of unlimited from what I've read.
cincyelite22 said:
All you need to do is an alternate upgrade then put the new device back on your line.
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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I don't understand. Can you explain what an alternate upgrade is?
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they mean if you have a family plan and another line has the upgrade, you take that, but you upgrade it on that other line...then just do an ESN change to put it to your line, thereby keeping unlimited data, but f'ing up our commissions. lol
i don't do that for customers because then i lose ALL of the commission i would've made. verizon wants you to do alternate upgrades instead of just ESN changes. my store would get charged back all that commission money from verizon at the end of the month because it's not a technical upgrade. if you can find someone who's dumb enough to do it for you, then so be it.....but when you order yourself online, you don't have this problem. only when you goto a store with a physical salesman.
I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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a store with a physical salesman.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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If my salesman gets physical he's gonna lose a hell of a lot more than his commission.
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Something tells me you can get very scary .
On a side note, I have one of these, works great. I keep a cordless phone plugged into it and I backfed it into my house wiring for another phone I have.
johnwaynegacy said:
I have read so many threads on unlimited data. Things about being able to keep unlimited on a non family plan, being able to keep it if you pay full retail, this, etc. I am confused. How do I keep it. I certainly don't want this useless box to connect my land phone to lol.
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Don't do anything that modifies your contract and they won't take it away from you. Any other way will be depending on some type of promotion or special allowance. Buy a phone without using an upgrade (either by paying full price or buying used) and you'll keep unlimited data. Using an upgrade discount triggers a contract modification and you lose it.
I'm trying to help my brother upgrade from a very old windows phone to a rezound and trying to get him to keep his unlimited data plan. Our parents live in an extremely rural area that doesnt have 4g. I saw posts in the past about people being able to keep their unlimited plans if they were in 3g areas.
Can anyone help or give advice as far doing an upgrade and keeping the older unlimited plan?
Much appreciated.
I don't know anything about getting it with 3G but I do know that if you get a home phone with Verizon they will let you have unlimited on your cell phone. It's $19/mo for nationwide calling. So if you have a home phone you can port that number over and it's no more expensive. If you don't have one and have to add it well, then it's going to cost that much more for unlimited.
You can't activate a 4G phone without a data plan and they are not allowing anyone to upgrade from 3G to 4G phones and keep their unlimited data. If there was a loop hole, I'm sure it would be posted online somewhere.
yeah, there's physically no way in our system to do it..maybe if you get like 5 levels up on customer service you could try though lol
ive always wondered this, hopefully someone can answer:
If I use someone else's upgrade on my line(on same account), will their plan change?
You can on AT&T!! I've done it a few times
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OddFutur3 said:
ive always wondered this, hopefully someone can answer:
If I use someone else's upgrade on my line(on same account), will their plan change?
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nope just extends the contract
That's some bull that Verizon is pulling that crap. When I had my droid x my plan was also for 4g. You pay for the plan not the phone. I would sue them in small claims court for breach of contract.
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nope just extends the contract
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sweet, maybe ill be getting the DNA after all
OddFutur3 said:
sweet, maybe ill be getting the DNA after all
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i'd love to..but that no sd card slot..meh lol
Rockstad said:
You can on AT&T!! I've done it a few times
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Nobody here has AT&T, this is a truly non helpful post.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Nobody here has AT&T, this is a truly non helpful post.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Considering this is a global phone, you never know who might be on whatever carrier.
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i'd love to..but that no sd card slot..meh lol
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Same here. I barely have room for 8gb plus my 64gb
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A2Aegis said:
Considering this is a global phone, you never know who might be on whatever carrier.
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Global radios doesn't make it any less of a verizon phone
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nope just extends the contract
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If you are using an upgrade on your account you do not keep unlimited and it doesn't extend your contract. When you upgrade you also sign up for a new contract. You are misinformed.
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If you are using an upgrade on your account you do not keep unlimited and it doesn't extend your contract. When you upgrade you also sign up for a new contract. You are misinformed.
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You're talking semantics here and, seeing as how he manages a Verizon reseller, he probably knows what he is taking about.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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You can't activate a 4G phone without a data plan and they are not allowing anyone to upgrade from 3G to 4G phones and keep their unlimited data. If there was a loop hole, I'm sure it would be posted online somewhere.
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I got upgraded from 3g to 4g then called customer service telling her i didn't know they'd put me on tiered. She explained that for two weeks you can change things back. She did it for me. But I purchased a thunderbolt off contract and did it
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You're talking semantics here and, seeing as how he manages a Verizon reseller, he probably knows what he is taking about.
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It's not semantics, it's Verizon policy. If you have an upgrade on any line on your account and you use it, you are then signing a new two year contract. A new contract with no unlimited where you are forced into a share plan.
That isn't a guess or semantics. That's exactly how it is.
If it wasn't, then you'd never lose unlimited ever because you can just upgrade on other lines until the end of time. You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
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It's not semantics, it's Verizon policy. If you have an upgrade on any line on your account and you use it, you are then signing a new two year contract. A new contract with no unlimited where you are forced into a share plan.
That isn't a guess or semantics. That's exactly how it is.
If it wasn't, then you'd never lose unlimited ever because you can just upgrade on other lines until the end of time. You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
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You can do that, upgrade on a secondary line, transfer the phone to your line, new phone, unlimited data. You are not forced into a shared plan, you can choose an individual tiered plan. If you have another line already on tiered data or willing to give up unlimited and their upgrade, you can use it and keep your unlimited. Please stop being wrong.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
Holy hell, NO YOU CAN'T. You cannot upgrade a secondary line and still maintain your current contract. If you add a line, it's a new two year agreement. When you upgrade a line with a subsidized price phone, it is a new two year agreement. THAT'S WHY THE PHONE IS SUBSIDIZED. That is how it works.
You really have no clue what you are saying. So stop.
Edit: Also, you can't be on individual tiered data when you have multiple lines anymore. You were able to add new lines at tiered data at one point but can't do that anymore. So any new line additions or upgrades force your entire family plan into a shared data plan. See how that works?
Again, stop speaking.
So currently I have the GS3, and today I am eligible for an upgrade on one of my 5 lines, two of which my wife and I still have unlimited data (the line with the eligible upgrade is not unlimited) so I am wondering is there a way to upgrade that line and give my wife the GS3 and me get the Gn2 without me loosing unlimited?
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you cannot get a phone at discounted price and keep unlimited data. You can buy one for full retail price and keep your data or get the discount and switch to tiered data plan. Or start a business account and you would still have access to unlimited data but it would cost around 150 bucks a month per line to have unlimited everything or at least i am pretty sure business customers sill have this option. If you end up seriously considering that i can call my business rep and ask him if you want just PM me.
If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got the gn2 on that line and then preformed a hardware swap with my GS3 I would think I would get to keep unlimited or am I wrong here?
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ryhailey said:
If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got the gn2 on that line and then preformed a hardware swap with my GS3 I would think I would get to keep unlimited or am I wrong here?
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edit misread post...srry
I've read somewhere else long before I posted the message on ACForums and a Very Reliable (Laugh) rep said that unlimited data users would go to a 2GB in may.
dms76 said:
I've read somewhere else long before I posted the message on ACForums and a Very Reliable (Laugh) rep said that unlimited data users would go to a 2GB in may.
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If that happens going to dump Verizon for Tmobile and paying full for the phone full price without contract makes it easier.
Sounds like I can keep Unlimited.
Sorry for the long post but here is what I got from the Verizon rep chat. I will keep the post updated to let you all know how it worked out.
Your RealTime session ID is 589747938.
You are now chatting with 'Elisabeth'
Elisabeth: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Ryan: Ya i have a question
Ryan: So today I am eligible for an upgrade on one of my 5 lines, two of which still have unlimited data (the line with the eligible upgrade is not unlimited) so I am wondering If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got a new phone on that line and then, preformed a hardware swap with my current phone would I get to keep unlimited data?
Elisabeth: I will be happy to help you with your questions today!
Elisabeth: Yes you would be able to activate the phone to whatever number you want and not affect the unlimited data.
Elisabeth: Let's start that upgrade process today!
Elisabeth: What type of phone are you interested in today?
Ryan: The galaxy note 2
Elisabeth: That is an awesome phone!
Elisabeth: The order process is quick and easy online.
Elisabeth: And you can activate the phone yourself.
Ryan: I think im going to do it in store
Elisabeth: When you purchase the phone in store they activate it under the line that the upgrade is for.
Elisabeth: I recommend proceeding with the upgrade online today!
Ryan: Is it at all possible that i can order from you and do in store pickup?
Ryan: and still activate it on my own?
Elisabeth: I would have to see if in store pick is available where you live.
Elisabeth: What state do you live in?
Ryan: Arizona
Elisabeth: Let me check.
Elisabeth: What you can get today is free two day shipping when you order online because in store pick up is not available in your state.
Elisabeth: Would you like to proceed with the order.
Ryan: Im going to have to pass right now my wife broke her phone and she is freaking out without one on the weekend.
Elisabeth: I understand! I am the exact same way!
Elisabeth: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Ryan: No that should be it, thank you for your help i really appreciate it.
Elisabeth: Can I give you a suggestion?
Ryan: yes
Elisabeth: When you buy the phone in the store tell them it is for Christmas and you will activate it later. Then after you leave call customer care and activate the phone under the number you want.
Elisabeth: Do you want the number to customer care?
Ryan: yes please.
Elisabeth: Their number is 1-800-922-0204.
Elisabeth: You will be able to keep your unlimited data that way.
Ryan: Awesome. Thank you so much you are amazing Elisabeth.
Elisabeth: Your Welcome!
Elisabeth: Have a wonderful day!
ryhailey said:
If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got the gn2 on that line and then preformed a hardware swap with my GS3 I would think I would get to keep unlimited or am I wrong here?
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You are correct. This is exactly what I did. I ordered mine online but had to exchange it in the store do to slight screen seperation below the home button. I even explained what I was doing at the store and they had no problem upgrading a regular line and switching it to my unlimited one.
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Ya she was telling me it depends on who you talk to, but I'm buying at best buy and those guys are idiots for the most part Imo so I am going to do it as the Verizon rep told me.
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Use your upgrade and get the note 2. Then just swap sim cards and you will be all set. Dont need to do anything else. Thats all I did and I had to explain it to the Verizon reps that it works.
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I actually work in Best Buy Mobile. You can do what is called an alternate upgrade. You just take the upgrade from the available line and place the upgraded device on the desired phone number. I do them all the time for customers in the same situation as you.
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Apoyyo said:
I actually work in Best Buy Mobile. You can do what is called an alternate upgrade. You just take the upgrade from the available line and place the upgraded device on the desired phone number. I do them all the time for customers in the same situation as you.
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correct...the only thing you wont be able to do is use the upgrades on the unlimited lines when they are elidgeable, without losing unlimited data.
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correct...the only thing you wont be able to do is use the upgrades on the unlimited lines when they are elidgeable, without losing unlimited data.
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Exactly. You are basically postponing the inevitable to a degree, but since those lines are already on a tiered plan, you have nothing to lose. As long as those other lines don't need new smartphones soon then you are good. Just keep in mind if you ever upgrade a line that had unlimited data then kiss your unlimited data goodbye.
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dch921 said:
Use your upgrade and get the note 2. Then just swap sim cards and you will be all set. Dont need to do anything else. Thats all I did and I had to explain it to the Verizon reps that it works.
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I was thinking about this I think it may bug me that it won't change on my account. Kind of a stupid reason but still lol
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Apoyyo said:
I actually work in Best Buy Mobile. You can do what is called an alternate upgrade. You just take the upgrade from the available line and place the upgraded device on the desired phone number. I do them all the time for customers in the same situation as you.
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From what I've been hearing it all depends on the rep you talk to. Maybe I will get lucky.
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I have transferred 2 upgrades to my phone number and bought the iPhone 5(Which I sold and made about $800 on), and now the GNote, and have not lost the unlimited data even though it said I would both times.
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From what I've been hearing it all depends on the rep you talk to. Maybe I will get lucky.
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To be honest is not a matter of getting lucky. The option for an alternate upgrade is built right into our activation system for Verizon. As long as you tell the associate what exactly you are wanting to do it well be fine. Just say you want to take the upgrade on line ending in 1234 and put the new hardware on line ending in 5678 without changing the plan. I can personally guarantee it will work no problem
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I was thinking about this I think it may bug me that it won't change on my account. Kind of a stupid reason but still lol
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It does change on your account as soon as the phone activates itself on boot after sim card swap
My line is available for upgrade in January and I did not want to lose my unlimited data. So I actually purchased the GN2 on my father's account which still had an NE2 also. Once the process was complete the guy deactivated my thunderbolt and activated the GN2 on my line. The rep also setup my SIM card for recycling so If I ever wanted to activate my TBolt again I could. If unlimited data goes away maybe I'll get a Asus PhonFab over the summer and sell the GN2
Thanks everyone for the advice. Finally got myself the titanium gray GN2 so far I'm loving it. And I just did the sim swap it worked out great.
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Alright three days ago I upgraded to the galaxy note 2 from the 3g samsung fasinate and I found a little loophole while activating the phone that let me keep my unlimited data.
Alright so first off my upgrade was filed through bestbuy.com I recieved my phone very fast (2days). When I recieved my phone you get everything you need to activate it your self including the 4g sim card so no need to go to a vzw store. So everthing is pretty straight forward like activating any phone on the website. Start off at your account page follow the steps for activation. Until you get to the select a new plan page in which it will say "your new device is not compatable with your current data plan" now from this you will see the current selected data plan is your unlimited. At this step without selecting any of the other data plan options (2gb 4gb and so on) just hit the select/continue option and finsh the rest of the on screen instructions. At the end of the activation you will see "congratulations your new device is activated" and a basic summary of the changes to your plan. For me the removal of 3g and the addtion of 4g.
Well I hope some of you can benefit from this....
I have a feeling you may find out in a month or so that you don't have unlimited data anymore.
I bought my note 2 in a VZW store outright. If you use a lot of data the phone will pay for its self.
Another loophole is to transfer your upgrade to a dumphone (assuming you have a dumbphone on your account), upgrade that line to a GN2, keeping unlimited on your other lines and adding a tiered plan to this line, activate, deactivate and put the flip phone back on which will cancel the tiered data plan again leaving your other lines untouched, move the GN2 to the line of your choice. You may potentially receive a months data on your next bill. Call 611 and explain the situation and you'll be credited back for the month (minus a day) on your next bill.
I've done it twice now. Enjoy!
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jmorton10 said:
I have a feeling you may find out in a month or so that you don't have unlimited data anymore.
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I just laughed out loud. Exactly what I was thinking.
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I have a feeling you may find out in a month or so that you don't have unlimited data anymore.
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Be sure to report back and let us know if you still have your original plan!
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Another loophole is to transfer your upgrade to a dumphone (assuming you have a dumbphone on your account), upgrade that line to a GN2, keeping unlimited on your other lines and adding a tiered plan to this line, activate, deactivate and put the flip phone back on which will cancel the tiered data plan again leaving your other lines untouched, move the GN2 to the line of your choice. You may potentially receive a months data on your next bill. Call 611 and explain the situation and you'll be credited back for the month (minus a day) on your next bill.
I've done it twice now. Enjoy!
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Mind if I ask a question -- after you've done that, on which line does the new two-year commitment go? The dumb line or the line with the transferred note 2? Also, how much do you pay per month for the dumb line? Thanks...
billku said:
Mind if I ask a question -- after you've done that, on which line does the new two-year commitment go? The dumb line or the line with the transferred note 2? Also, how much do you pay per month for the dumb line? Thanks...
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I'm guessing to the line where the upgrade originated (smart phone). It now has the longest upgrade availability date under My Verizon.
I have 700 minutes w/ unlimited texts. Each smart phone (except the first one) has unlimited data ($30) and $10 add on. Dumb phone is just a $10 add on.
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I'm guessing to the line where the upgrade originated (smart phone). It now has the longest upgrade availability date under My Verizon.
I have 700 minutes w/ unlimited texts. Each smart phone (except the first one) has unlimited data ($30) and $10 add on. Dumb phone is just a $10 add on.
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Thanks so much! Will try this next month to get an iPhone 5 for my wife (can't keep her on the Android bandwagon, darn it... )
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I just laughed out loud. Exactly what I was thinking.
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Well I will report back at the end of the month...
joshw0000 said:
Another loophole is to transfer your upgrade to a dumphone (assuming you have a dumbphone on your account), upgrade that line to a GN2, keeping unlimited on your other lines and adding a tiered plan to this line, activate, deactivate and put the flip phone back on which will cancel the tiered data plan again leaving your other lines untouched, move the GN2 to the line of your choice. You may potentially receive a months data on your next bill. Call 611 and explain the situation and you'll be credited back for the month (minus a day) on your next bill.
I've done it twice now. Enjoy!
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This was the trick I used to use, but according to my coworkers this stopped working. Now it supposedly gets switched automatically to a 2gb plan. I was told this last week.
Sooner or later Verizon will catch on and fix these loopholes.
AcE XBOX said:
This was the trick I used to use, but according to my coworkers this stopped working. Now it supposedly gets switched automatically to a 2gb plan. I was told this last week.
Sooner or later Verizon will catch on and fix these loopholes.
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Crap. Can anyone else confirm this no longer works?
billku said:
Crap. Can anyone else confirm this no longer works?
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Still worked for me a week ago.
I did it over the phone when the i5's first released and a few weeks ago for the GN2. Ask a rep, worst they can say is no. But ask 2 or 3 more before giving up until you find one that understands what you're trying to do and has done it before.
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The upgrade I plan to transfer to my dumb phone doesn't come up until end of the month, I will pray you guys are right and it's still working then...
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Crap. Can anyone else confirm this no longer works?
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I just received my Note2 yesterday and had ordered it by calling and was told specifically I would not lose my unlimited data as I have a dummy line I used for upgrading . I have yet to activate it as I have a GNex on my unlimited line now. But I will activate tomorrow when I can actually call and speak to someone and switdh the upgrade to my unlimited data line and keep the non smart phone thats on the dummy line as it is and not have to have a tiered plan for the extra line, Basically its my sons line who doesnt need a smart phone and I used his upgrade, done it before on two other lines for my daughters lines in the past without losing my unlimited. If I get a different response tomorrow when I call to do the switch and activation I have two options I can do- 1- return the note to them and stay with my GNEX unlimited plan. Option 2 would be to tell Verizon to go &%^themselves and not return their note2 and good luck getting any early term fees and go somewhere else . All depends on them!! I hear TMob will be offering a $250 mail in rebate on the Note2 next month bringing the cost to only $49 plus fees with contract-? and unlimited as well.
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I just received my Note2 yesterday and had ordered it by calling and was told specifically I would not lose my unlimited data as I have a dummy line I used for upgrading . I have yet to activate it as I have a GNex on my unlimited line now. But I will activate tomorrow when I can actually call and speak to someone and switdh the upgrade to my unlimited data line and keep the non smart phone thats on the dummy line as it is and not have to have a tiered plan for the extra line, Basically its my sons line who doesnt need a smart phone and I used his upgrade, done it before on two other lines for my daughters lines in the past without losing my unlimited. If I get a different response tomorrow when I call to do the switch and activation I have two options I can do- 1- return the note to them and stay with my GNEX unlimited plan. Option 2 would be to tell Verizon to go &%^themselves and not return their note2 and good luck getting any early term fees and go somewhere else . All depends on them!! I hear TMob will be offering a $250 mail in rebate on the Note2 next month bringing the cost to only $49 plus fees with contract-? and unlimited as well.
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Will you post and let us know how it goes? Thanks so much!
billku said:
Will you post and let us know how it goes? Thanks so much!
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For sure I will. I have done this before recently and didn't have a problem. I have 5 lines in all for my family and used one for wife's new phone, But if Verizon wants to keep screwing their long time customers (15+ years) with the bogus share everything crap, I will not have any issues screwing back! For sure ill post back tomorrow after.
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For sure I will ll. I have done this before recently and didn't have a problem. I have 5 lines in all for my family and used one for wife's new phone, But if Verizon wants to keep screwing their long time customers (15+ years) with the bogus share everything crap, I will not have any issues screwing back! For sure ill post back tomorrow after.
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Looking forward to it, thanks so much for your help!
I used a dummy phone to keep my unlimited on Jan 2nd with no problems. I have a friend who works for Verizon and he makes sure everything goes smoothly.
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Looked at all the reviews and comparisons to other phones but my focus is on the S4 but the real question is, Would you be willing to lose your unlimited data to upgrade to this phone?
You don't have to lose your unlimited to get this phone. You just have to pay full price unless your on a 3G only phone which if that's the case, you WiLL probably lose I when you get a 4g LTE phone. Now you might be able to argue to keep it, but that is doubtful.
Depending on your normal usage, only you can determine if losing unlimited is truly worth it
Just buy the phone unsubsidized and keep your unlimited data
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No phone is worth that. Are you on a family plan or a single line? If you're on a family plan, make a new line and then transfer your phone over to your main line. You'll come out about 200 dollars ahead of buying it straight up. Just be honest and let the salesperson know what you want. It's worked for me every time.
You'll have to keep that other line going for ten a month for the contract period, and you gotta put a dumb phone on it.
I'd wait for the Note 3 if even considering this, otherwise buy a used phone from Craiglist or full price subsidized.
You could do the twelve month installment plan. Need to do this at a corporate store.
If you use much data, no device is worth losing unlimited.
I currently have a galaxy nexus on a single line plan.
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You could do the twelve month installment plan. Need to do this at a corporate store.
If you use much data, no device is worth losing unlimited.
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I average about 4-7GB a month, so a 6GB plan might work.
You don't have to lose your data package. Regardless of your current phone. It is all a matter of talking to the right rep for an alternate upgrade (extending the contract of another line on the plan) or paying full price.
I went from the iPhone 4 to the S4. Paid full price, but you can still get discounts as referred to above. Verizon tries to tell retailers to not allow for it but most use the eRoes system and I know for a fact after using it for nearly 5 years that it can be done. Verizon just doesn't make as much money.
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I average about 4-7GB a month, so a 6GB plan might work.
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The 6GB "Share Everything" plan (the new plans) come out to be $120/month for one smartphone. What are you paying now? If you are paying less than $120/month, consider that in your decision.
You may save money in the short term, but if you're paying $100/month right now and upgrade at the discounted S4 price to the 6GB Share Everything plan (and keep that plan for the full 24 months), you'll be paying an extra $480 over the life of the contract, not including any overages you may get (since you said you average up to 7GB).
I'm not sure what the current S4 upgrade price is, but I paid ~$650 full retail for mine. Had I upgraded at a discount and got the data plan that I would feel comfortable with, I would have ended up paying at least $30 more over 2 years then my current single line plan with unlimited data (assuming that I didn't need to upgrade to a higher data plan!). Not much, but every little bit counts.
I pay about 92.00 with my discount through my job.
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Here's my suggestion. Go to a best buy Mobile (I work there) and buy the phone outright but make them price match a Verizon corporate store (new corporate policy "low price guarantee"... And BBM sells the phones at a higher outright price) and get a best buy credit card. You will get 18 months to pay the phone off with no interest (payments will be lower than VZW installments).
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Looked at all the reviews and comparisons to other phones but my focus is on the S4 but the real question is, Would you be willing to lose your unlimited data to upgrade to this phone?
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Nevermind I should read the first page before I start talking.
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If you have an old basic phone, open a line for it, $9/mo. Transfer your upgrade to that line. Activate new phone on that line. Transfer phone to your unlimited line. Activate basic phone back on the 9/mo line.
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Might buy a cheap basic phone and try that.
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If you have an old basic phone, open a line for it, $9/mo. Transfer your upgrade to that line. Activate new phone on that line. Transfer phone to your unlimited line. Activate basic phone back on the 9/mo line.
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No. I came from sprint and now I am sad.
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It was for me. I didn't want to lose Unlimited but I never go over a gig, so I figured why pay full price and bother try to hold on to something I don't really need? Paying $160 for this phone and keeping my existing monthly payment seemed like the smarter decision for me.
Verizon is smarter than you guys give them credit for. First, a couple of years ago they started calling around "secretly" telling people that if they want a smart phone to do it now because unlimited data was going away. Then, after they get you hooked, throw away the Grandfathered customers and hook you onto a tiered plan. Whats the next step? http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/leadership/area/index.html
Now, to save money on phones you get an LTE only (ie. all data) phone for everything. What can you do? Nothing really, but you can let yourself be heard.
http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/leadership/area/index.html
Find your regional VP and tell them how disappointed you are in the treatment if the loyal customers. Be courteous, but firm in your disappointment.
I considered ditching my unlimited data plan since I never came close to using it... but that's because my last phone (an original Motorola Droid) was so laggy that I couldn't take advantage of unlimited. Now with my S4 I'm doing a lot of stuff that wasn't possible or realistic on my older phone and I can easily blow through a gig over a weekend. Glad I bought mine used.
Yeah, don't ditch unlimited. The more super BA your phone is, the more data it will consume. Going from a 3G to a 4G phone my data doubled.
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