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I thought I had seen this some where but can't find it. Has anybody heard of talk on a new backplate made of a material that would not screw with wifi and gps? Asus or third-party? Personally I feel Asus should be manufacturing them (since they will be making them for there tf301 anyways), and replace them. But at this point I be willing to pay for it, from Asus or a third-party.
I think they/we won't be able to just replace our back plates. Feel the upper left (upper right corner when viewing your device from the back) after playing some graphic intense games. It gets quite hot.
Now imagine this being plastic, which does not conduct heat that good. I guess the prime would overheat.
There are some plastics that can tolerate heat up to 347 degrees Fahrenheit such as Polymethylpentene. (Not that you need to get up that high in tolerance. You could probably be fine with something like Polycarbonate, which has a heat tolerance of up to 275 F.)
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I think they/we won't be able to just replace our back plates. Feel the upper left (upper right corner when viewing your device from the back) after playing some graphic intense games. It gets quite hot.
Now imagine this being plastic, which does not conduct heat that good. I guess the prime would overheat.
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I highly doubt whatever plastics they use would be unstable enough to melt under the kind of heat the TP puts out.
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I highly doubt whatever plastics they use would be unstable enough to melt under the kind of heat the TP puts out.
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That's not what I meant. Maybe the metal is there to actually "transport" the heat outside. Plastic would be more isolating, because it does not conduct heat very well. My fear would be the prime overheating, and not the plastic melting.
There are some seriously tough plastics now: I wouldn't worry about their stability.
The heat sink issue could be real, however, but again: there will be a margin of overload built in.
One problem could be the screening afforded by the grounded back plate which if taken away would make the device fail various EMC tests and airplane approvals, due to the emissions of "sprogs" (spurious emissions) from the motherboard and wiring. As currently made, it will have gone through many tests to quantify this, and taking away the aluminium back would screw this up.
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Is the headphone jack a bit stiff for you guys? It takes a good amount of pressure to plug in and out a headset. I also notice a golden contact inside that protrudes out a bit. Is that normal?
Wondering if I should get insurance for the phone. I don't feel like exchanging it because I haven't run into heat/screen problems at all with this particular phone.
ive noticed it being a bit stiff but didn't really think of it as being a bad thing. generally not rough with it
Cool. I like the stiffness...but just thought maybe because I saw that metal piece stick out, there was something wrong.
I felt the same way when I got mine, but I've gotten used to it.
Any thoughts or facts on this? i can't go naked because, well i drop the phone sometimes. We all know the OG gets hot after continuous use but i'm wondering if having a case on (mine is clear TPU) keeps the phone hotter than if case-less.
Found these;
http://lifehacker.com/5903080/should-i-use-a-case-on-my-phone
Heat: Nothing will kill your battery, slow down your phone, or burn a hole in your pocket quite like an overheating device, and a case is only going to exacerbate that issue. If your phone is prone to getting a little warm, wrapping it in a non-breathable case is not such a great idea. Photo by Justus Bluemer.
http://lifehacker.com/5828090/why-is-my-cellphone-burning-a-hole-in-my-pocket
Take it out of the case: This kind of goes in with the last one, but is something you can do in almost every overheating situation. If you have a case on your phone, take it off. Certain cases will insulate heat far more than others, and removing it could give your phone a chance to cool off a bit.
erwaso said:
Any thoughts or facts on this? i can't go naked because, well i drop the phone sometimes. We all know the OG gets hot after continuous use but i'm wondering if having a case on (mine is clear TPU) keeps the phone hotter than if case-less.
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read those articles and it got me to thinking. I also had a little too much time on my hands at work this morning so I tested some things out.
First, since our phones don't have cooling fans, the only way to cool them is by ambient temperatures being lower than the phones temperature. So when they use the term "breathability" in those articles it is bit of a misused term in regards to how the phone cools down. If they were cooled based on airflow and the case restricted airflow, then yes, breathability is an issue. Also the phone and case themselves are both made out of non porous materials so technically nothing is really breathing. So for our devices it is more about heat transfer and direct cooling, so technically nothing is really breathing.
So I wanted to see if the case was transferring heat or not. I had my phone in the case in my pocket for an hour without using it and i used an infrared thermometer to check the temps. The outside of the case read around 81-82 degrees. I took the phone out of the case and checked the phones temperature and it was the same. I put the case back on and let it sit for 10 minutes in a 70 degree room and the temps dropped to 75 degrees and it read the same on the phone when I took it out again. So the case is transferring heat. I would be concerned if the outside of the case was cooler than the phone itself. Then there would be a problem.
My next step is going to be repeating this without the phone in the case at all.
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The case will have a measurable impact, dependent on the material, thickness, etc. However, similar to the RF transparency of the material, I'm not sure it would be noticeable in real life.
Several factors will also mitigate this, including the processor being near the camera (which is usually uncovered on a case), and also that the case normally only covers the back of the phone (which in this instance is the same material as the front).
So in short, my opinion is no, (but yes, a bit!)
I'd say the extra heat generated is less danger than one serious drop.
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One of my cases I had made the phone overheat a lot more then it being naked. (it was the rubbery material and plastic two part case)
My new diztronic tpu case has been much better with heat though.
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Was the overheating one the body glove by any chance?
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Snow_fox said:
Was the overheating one the body glove by any chance?
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No it was one of the cheap-o ones on ebay.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?index=0&sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=281045922178
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I would have to say that it depends on the thermal conductivity of the case. If it has low thermal conductivity, the case would end up acting as an insulator and trap heat in. If it has high thermal conductivity, the case woul act as a heat sink and move heat away from the phone body.
Just my two cents.
NamDark said:
I would have to say that it depends on the thermal conductivity of the case. If it has low thermal conductivity, the case would end up acting as an insulator and trap heat in. If it has high thermal conductivity, the case woul act as a heat sink and move heat away from the phone body.
Just my two cents.
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What lg could have done, was put an aluminum heatsink that had a thin fin that spread to all four sides of the phone that would dissipate the heat from the center. Then again, I haven't ripped my phone apart. It may have that already.
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What lg could have done, was put an aluminum heatsink that had a thin fin that spread to all four sides of the phone that would dissipate the heat from the center. Then again, I haven't ripped my phone apart. It may have that already.
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I've ripped it apart a few times, no fin, but there is enough clearance to do so, I might give that a shot just because.
Not sure of the potential interference to cell signal though..
Good idea regardless, even aluminum foil at that close proximity with maybe thermal compound or a pad would do more than nothing, in theory.
If you are concerned about trapping of heat, another option would be the stick on covers. The bodyguardz http://www.bodyguardz.com/armor-carbon-fiber-lg-optimus-g-p970.html seems like a possible option. More grip, less slip!
Of course the whole debate is ignoring the biggest issue, holding the device in your hand.
So I've come to the conclusion that using the new G2 would/ a case isn't an option. It just gets too frigging hot. That in mind. Do I want a hard shell or tpu case? I'm thinking a hard shell would be best. Trouble is, I'd like it to be as thin as possible. I'm using the high gloss case from Verizon now and it def helps, but I'd prefer something thinner...and less ugly, LOL.
I would agree heat kills batteries like no ones business
- but a saved screen from a drop with a solid case is worth the tradeoff imo.
Every phone case has a low thermal conductivity, cause all of them are obviously made of plastic having to absorb and to be elastic
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I think the simplest solution is to get a normal tpu cover and make holes in the back as much as you can to maintain the integrity of the cover, cause the main problem is to expose the phone but to keep it safe
This is really easy to make.
The raw materials are:
aluminum flatbar
3m automotive mounting tape
electrical tape
plastic cabinet support
I am not positive about that last item. I believe it is a drawer or cabinet fastener of some kind. I have no idea what it came with. It was just something I found in my junk drawer.
I trimmed it down, sanded the edge. Then I cut a piece of aluminum flatbar to about 4". I bent it about 30 degrees or so. Used the 3m tape to mount the flatbar to the back of the controller, and the plastic channel to the flatbar. Then I wrapped it in electrical tape to make it black. Kinda ghetto, but I don't like painting. The thickness of the channel just happened to be perfect for holding the Shield when it's in the Fintie case.
Yes, it's a little on the heavy side. You won't want to marathon game this way. But it works. There's really no other way for me to prop the tablet up on my lap when I am sitting on the couch or in bed.
Anyway, just wanted to share the idea with ya.
Amazon link to the Fintie case: http://www.amazon.com/Fintie-NVIDIA...Smart+Shell+Case+Cover+For+2014+NVIDIA+Shield
btw, I think it would be much less unwieldy if the channel was right on top of the controller. Unfortunately, that would prevent access to the charging port. I might get a 3" OTG cable with a right angle connector that can stay there permanently, then shove the channel as close to the controller as possible.
Nice work mate
holy ****... i didn't believe it would be possible but nice job man LOL
How long can you hold it for before your arms need a break? That's the only thing I'm thinking off when I see that.
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holy ****... i didn't believe it would be possible but nice job man LOL
How long can you hold it for before your arms need a break? That's the only thing I'm thinking off when I see that.
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It's a little on the heavy side for sure. I had it resting in my lap.
I actually just sent my tablet back today. With the screen off, it went from 82% battery to dead in just a couple hours. Plus the flaky wifi I was getting, I got tired of messing with it. So if anyone wants the mount, let me know.
shapeways.com/model/2843532/nvidia-shield-tablet-and-controller.html?materialId=25
I'm thinking im going to take the plunge and try and replace the battery in this thing. Battery life is certainly sub par 14 months in with moderate to heavy use. Does anyone have any recommended kits or places to buy the tools needed for the job? I've looked at various tear downs and it doesn't seem terribly hard to do. Is the stuff from iFixit any good?
https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B01MSZQBLP/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought this one and seems to have all pieces... A smartphone repair tool kit on Amazon will be ok, they are the same for every smartphone I think
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I'm thinking im going to take the plunge and try and replace the battery in this thing. Battery life is certainly sub par 14 months in with moderate to heavy use. Does anyone have any recommended kits or places to buy the tools needed for the job? I've looked at various tear downs and it doesn't seem terribly hard to do. Is the stuff from iFixit any good?
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The main things you'll need is a small phillips head screwdriver, a precision razor blade, and a heat gun or hair dryer to heat the back. The rest can be done with old gift cards or playing cards. You may also want to order a new back cover with the top and bottom strips if you are picky about small dings. It's difficult to remove the back without leaving small dings at the injection site of the razor blade. Replacement backs are only about $25.
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The main things you'll need is a small phillips head screwdriver, a precision razor blade, and a heat gun or hair dryer to heat the back. The rest can be done with old gift cards or playing cards. You may also want to order a new back cover with the top and bottom strips if you are picky about small dings. It's difficult to remove the back without leaving small dings at the injection site of the razor blade. Replacement backs are only about $25.
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Thanks - that's not too terrible. Dings I'm not THAT concerned about unless I royally mess this up. For the most part my phone is in a slim rubber case so I'd never see them. I'm still enjoying this phone aside from battery life so definitely looking to expand its life another year at least. Nothing thats out now really meets the quality and features of the 6p for me yet.
blow dryer, hobby blade kit, playing card, phillips screw driver, patience and a brain! its super simple to do... i was sweating up a storm and then realized it wasnt hard at all. the glas on the back panel is harder than you think... and if it breaks they sell aftermarket ones for like 7 bucks.... i
cdgtcc said:
I'm thinking im going to take the plunge and try and replace the battery in this thing. Battery life is certainly sub par 14 months in with moderate to heavy use. Does anyone have any recommended kits or places to buy the tools needed for the job? I've looked at various tear downs and it doesn't seem terribly hard to do. Is the stuff from iFixit any good?
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This website might help you out.
https://www.etradesupply.com/blog/replace-huawei-nexus-6p-battery-7-steps/
Sweet - thanks everyone for the help. Anyone have any trust worthy battery sources for an OEM battery?
I saw many vdo clips about this many times , but I am not sure about my skill. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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I saw many vdo clips about this many times , but I am not sure about my skill. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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It's not that hard. You need patience before any tools, mostly to open the camera glass, then it's super easy. And if you crack it, the replacement is going to cost less than 10 bucks, so it's not a big deal, don't worry!
Saw a couple of people used a hair dryer instead of a heat gun. Did it work out ok? Id rather save the $ for a product I likely won't get much use out of. But remember reading elsewhere that a hair dryer is a bad substitute... maybe for this particular job its ok?
Would someone please post source/links for oem replacement parts? Back, glass, bottom piece...
Swapping battery I'm guaranteed to break something.
Tks
Born<ICs said:
Would someone please post source/links for oem replacement parts? Back, glass, bottom piece...
Swapping battery I'm guaranteed to break something.
Tks
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Some information here