Man, I just read everything on Per-App DPI over and over again trying to understand it. Can anyone please explain it as thoroughly as you can? I'm confused as hell. =/
Wasn't it easier to just use rom toolbox to change the DPI to where you wanted it? Now, when I flash hybrid rc2 or the new alpha 3, I go to rom toolbox like I always have to change the DPI but it doesn't work anymore. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong with because of this new per app dpi, but to me all it has done is made everything EXTREMELY complicated. I'll list what I have tried:
-I flashed alpha 3, flashed the 320 zip, went into rom toolbox to change dpi to 280, 240, 220, and the only thing that changed was the lockscreen text. Everything else stayed at 320.
-I flashed Hybrid RC1.1, flashed the all-dpi zip, changed dpi in rom toolbox and everything was fine. Worked like previous roms with tablet mod.
-I flashed Hybrid RC1.1, flashed RC2, tried to change dpi in rom toolbox to 280, 240, 220, and had the same problem as I did on alpha 3.
Am I right in understanding that in order to change dpi now you have to edit the build.prop for every app you want changed? Is that what the per app dpi is? If that's the case I have no clue how that is close to being easier than using rom toolbox or lcd density from the play store.
Can someone please explain all of this to me? I would really appreciate it. Thanks so much. I'm about to start pulling out my hair lol. =(
P.S. The directions in DAGr8's thread are very minimal and not easy to follow for people who don't have the experience that he does. Its jibberish to newer flashers. It just says something to the extent of "change whatever app you want's dpi but it has to match the build prop dpi, and also the keyboards need to match" -- those instructions are a little hard to follow. So just lookin for some help.
I didn't read the whole post...kind a in a hurry but for what I know the tool box doesn't work on rc2 which is why it still worked on rc1. For what I understand, certain apps require certain dpi and people also would rather have a higher dpi for reading emails ans such but don't want to lose tab mode or they don't want to keep toggleing dpi settings in rom toolbox. So in a nut shell, this mod will allow you to set certain apps etc at what ever setting you want while keeping your phone in tab mode. I'm sure there more to kit but this is what I've gathered.
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I would really love a bit more info on this.
I run my phone (Sg3) at 240 its amazing. but dialer/camera/clock/samsung keyboard
DO NOT LIKE 240dpi. dialer and camera "work" they are just ugly.
clock crashes (using alternative for it for now)
would really like to get samsung keyboard working. the LH3 one stops crashing but its too small to be useful at 240dpi since it does not "expand" at 240.
would REALLY love app dpi but on my stock rom (I like the samsung features so I don't want to goto paranoid)
where is dagr8's thread?
or where I can get "modified" versions of these apps to be 240 compliant? bala_gamer made 240 compliant dialer but it does not work on the sprint Sg3 only the international variant.
I am wondering because I have used ROMS like "Team Insomnia's Juggernaut" which has changing the DPI to make it into tablet mode built into the rom itself. I am using kifacs OnlyOne rom now which it strives on being natural looking so safe to say there isnt a built in DPI changer in it. I am wondering if its possible to change the DPI on ANY Rom? I would like to see this ROM in tablet mode but not sure of the risks with this and or how to do it. I have heard that ROM toolbox has a way to do it. Any help and or advice would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!!:victory:
DroidXpert13 said:
I am wondering because I have used ROMS like "Team Insomnia's Juggernaut" which has changing the DPI to make it into tablet mode built into the rom itself. I am using kifacs OnlyOne rom now which it strives on being natural looking so safe to say there isnt a built in DPI changer in it. I am wondering if its possible to change the DPI on ANY Rom? I would like to see this ROM in tablet mode but not sure of the risks with this and or how to do it. I have heard that ROM toolbox has a way to do it. Any help and or advice would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!!:victory:
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Yup, ROM Toolbox Pro is the best way to do it. I have changed all the Roms i use via Rom Toolbox even though some say they have it on the rom. Plus it helps supports those developers to keep doing what they do best.
That's all I had to hear a big thanks goes to.you bro!
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Hello. Can someone help me learn about dpi settings?
I recall seeing a post in Beans thread that explained how to change the dpi globally to desired setting and then noted the app exceptions to be changed in the per app dpi; however, I've gone back 18 pages (and will continue to look) and still haven't found it.
I also titled search for dpi, read the majority of those threads and haven't found it there either.
I'd love to better understand what it does for me, such as applications opening in a tablet mode instead? I do realize it makes stuff smaller and sharper?
Thnx!
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Hello. Can someone help me learn about dpi settings?
I recall seeing a post in Beans thread that explained how to change the dpi globally to desired setting and then noted the app exceptions to be changed in the per app dpi; however, I've gone back 18 pages (and will continue to look) and still haven't found it.
I also titled search for dpi, read the majority of those threads and haven't found it there either.
I'd love to better understand what it does for me, such as applications opening in a tablet mode instead? I do realize it makes stuff smaller and sharper?
Thnx!
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Changing the DPI of apps is what ParanoidAndroid is famous for so if you want to see it in action the easiest way to see oer app DPI settings would be to watch some PA videos about it.
As for the Beans global app DPI changes I have no earthly clue, I run CleanRom and Vanilla Rootbox mostly, but if you want to mess around with it look up the Xposed Framework and the plugin for it that allows per app DPI changes. I would install that and play around with it if it was my first time using per app DPI settings.
I wish I could be more specific about Beans but seeing as how I dont run it I have no clue about it.... Maybe someone who does will be able to help a bit more.
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shangrila500 said:
Changing the DPI of apps is what ParanoidAndroid is famous for so if you want to see it in action the easiest way to see oer app DPI settings would be to watch some PA videos about it.
As for the Beans global app DPI changes I have no earthly clue, I run CleanRom and Vanilla Rootbox mostly, but if you want to mess around with it look up the Xposed Framework and the plugin for it that allows per app DPI changes. I would install that and play around with it if it was my first time using per app DPI settings.
I wish I could be more specific about Beans but seeing as how I dont run it I have no clue about it.... Maybe someone who does will be able to help a bit more.
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Thank you. I'm familiar and have Xposed Framework installed along with App Settings and can change per app dpi. I'm just trying to better educate myself on what apps are good for "phablet" or tablet mode and how to get them there. Also, wondering about global changes. I have the below instructions but am just trying to read up what I can expect to see, etc...
"navigate to "system" and long press "build.prop", and choose to "open with - text editor". There should be 2 lines, 1 near the top, and 1 near the bottom that say something along the line of ro.sf.lcd_density=320, change that number to 240. Do that for both lines."
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Thank you. I'm familiar and have Xposed Framework installed along with App Settings and can change per app dpi. I'm just trying to better educate myself on what apps are good for "phablet" or tablet mode and how to get them there. Also, wondering about global changes. I have the below instructions but am just trying to read up what I can expect to see, etc...
"navigate to "system" and long press "build.prop", and choose to "open with - text editor". There should be 2 lines, 1 near the top, and 1 near the bottom that say something along the line of ro.sf.lcd_density=320, change that number to 240. Do that for both lines."
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As far as I understood build prop changes it for all your apps and can cause some to not work properly with the Play store hence why they came out with the work around with PA and Xposed.
A lot of apps have tablet mode that gets activated when you change the dpi, the best way is just to test really. I havent seen a definitive list of which apps work and which dont so....
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I had been running Jelly Beans V5 on my Note 2 since I had it and was problem free except for when I was in a call and hit KEYPAD. The keypad comes up but the #,0,* keys were covered my the lower menu keys.
This weekend I upgraded to Build 20 and still have the issue. I've searched for a fix, but have not found much on this. Does anyone know if I can get this corrected? I have tried different Dialers from the play store and they do not fix this.
Sorry if its a known issue or easy fix, but I could find nothing on this when I searched.
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I had been running Jelly Beans V5 on my Note 2 since I had it and was problem free except for when I was in a call and hit KEYPAD. The keypad comes up but the #,0,* keys were covered my the lower menu keys.
This weekend I upgraded to Build 20 and still have the issue. I've searched for a fix, but have not found much on this. Does anyone know if I can get this corrected? I have tried different Dialers from the play store and they do not fix this.
Sorry if its a known issue or easy fix, but I could find nothing on this when I searched.
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Are you running any DPI adjustments?
I'd try to adjust the DPI.
Are you using softkeys by chance too?
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Are you running any DPI adjustments?
I'd try to adjust the DPI.
Are you using softkeys by chance too?
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I am not using Softkeys. I'm not familiar with DPI adjustments, but I will research that. Thanks for the lead!
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I am not using Softkeys. I'm not familiar with DPI adjustments, but I will research that. Thanks for the lead!
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Solved! It was the DPI tip that led me to correcting this. I adjusted the DPI settings for the phone but didn't see a change. From what I read Samsung apps can't be changed? Anyhow, I opened buil.prop and changed the phone DPI from 320 to 280. This corrected my dialer. Then I changed Nova launcher from 280 to 320 to get my phone back to what I was use to.
I found someone that had the same issue and basically followed his steps. But it was the DPI tip that led me to that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199003
Thanks again!
Change Pixel Density for Galaxy Note 3 and Recommended DPI Settings for System Apps.
Requires Root!
Works on any Rom!
With the Note 3 Packing a 1920x1080 resolution, the first thing I did when I got the phone was work on taking advantage of the real estate the screen has to offer. Many of the Pixel density settings from the Note 2 work on the Note 3, but keep in mind the formula changed with the new screen size and resolution change. I'm just going to call it "Preferred DPI" as most will agree, its a comfortable viewing option.
The easiest way I have found is to change the overall layout from 480 to 320, then going in and tweaking some individual apps.
Overall most of the apps will function as normal, however some system apps will not look right, especially the Dialer and Camera/Gallery views.
Note 2:
Factory DPI: 320
Preferred DPI: 240
Note 3
Factory DPI: 480
Preferred DPI: 320
To change all apps and programs to be viewed in 320 mode is to modify the build.prop settings.
There are multiple ways to do this, but the easiest I have found is to download Rom Toolbox. The Lite version will allow you to easily edit the app. Support your devs, buy pro or donate and give credit to these app & rom creators.
Rom Toolbox Lite Rom Toolbox Pro
Step 1: Changing phone pixel density from 480 to 320
Open Rom Toolbox
Go to the Performance Tab
Select the build.prop Editor
Click the Magnifying Glass to search
Type in "Density"
Click on the ro.sf.lcd_density
Change the Property Value from 480 to 320
Click YES on reboot prompt
Step 2: Download and Install Xposed Framework and App Settings Module
Without rewriting guides that are already available, you can read the general guides here on how to install Xposed Framework.
Guide by Max from High on Android
Download Xposed Framework by Xda Developer rovo89
Download Xposed App Settings Module by rovo89 & Tunstwenty
You will need to install Xposed Framework, and the Xposed App Settings Module by clicking on the above threads. The threads are maintained and updated regularly. Xposed has the ability to update itself, and also provides updates to the modules, which is a great feature.
Once these are installed you can then begin to change apps back to 480 DPI if they don't look right.
Step 3:Recommended Apps to Revert to Stock Density
You can change any app you wish, but the ones that I recommend to keep at stock DPI mainly due to cropping issues are the dialer, contacts, camera, and gallery.
I am currently running Jellybombed Rom, so you may see some extra apps in screenshots, as well as blue text.
I also ran this on the stock rooted Samsung Rom, and the Rooted Deodexed rom before going to Jellybomb.
These are my personal preferences, and im sure I have more than I need selected, but I wanted to make sure all elements worked.
Camera for example has many sub apps such as editing and trimming.
Contacts has 4 tabs for Phone, Groups, Favorites, Contacts
Phone has 4 tabs for Keypad, Logs, Favorites, Contacts.
Bolded are the most essential, the non bolded are personal preference. Feel free to add your own.
com.arcsoft.picmovie
com.arcsoft.picturesbest.app
com.android.app.popupcalculator Calculator
com.sec.android.app.camera Camera
com.sec.factory.camera Camera
com.sec.android.app.collage Samsung Gallery
com.sec.phone - Phone
com.android.contacts - Contacts
com.android.providers.telephony
com.arcsoft.picaction.app
com.arcsoft.demo.piclear
com.sec.android.gallery3d Alternate Gallery
com.google.android.gallery3d Alternate Gallery
com.lidroid.sgs.secretcode
com.android.mms - Texting
com.android.phone - Phone Dialer
com.sec.sprextension.phoneinfo
com.sec.android.mimage.photoretouching
com.sec.android.filter
com.samsung.everglades.video - Samsung Video App
com.sec.yosemite.phone
com.lifevibes.trimapp
com.sec.android.app.storycam
com.sec.android.app.videoplayer - Samsung Default Video Player
com.android.vpndialogs
ma.wanam.xposed
com.google.android.youtube
I have not had any issues with the Android Market, and DPI settings yet, however there is a module called Play Store Fixes you can run within Xposed.
The launcher I use is ADW Launcher
The current Rom used in the screenshots is Jellybomb Domination
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This is so necessary for the note 3. Thanks for the post!!
Awesome job.
Any clue what app the pen input app is? The one you activate by clicking the pen square over inputs?
It looks like it follows the app's dpi, but wondering if that can be pegged at 480 for every app?
320 feels a tinge too small. Any idea what other settings could be used easily that aren't so small?
I just went in and changed a bunch to make it better. Thanks for the suggestion.
Do you know which is the lockscreen?
Any idea what program the sview case window is under?
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Jbroad572 said:
Any idea what program the sview case window is under?
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It's not a particular program, from what I've read you would have to leave the system at 480 and individually change apps to 320 to keep the S View Window working properly :\
datajosh said:
It's not a particular program, from what I've read you would have to leave the system at 480 and individually change apps to 320 to keep the S View Window working properly :\
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Im going back to stock deodexed this weekend to test out some things.
I had some issues with editing pictures ( mainly getting the redeye tool to work with pinch to zoom) so Im going to go back to "as close to stock" as possible to rule out any theme/app settings from Jellybombed.
Ill try to play with the factory apps a bit to get a better list.
Im one of those .. "as soon as i get a phone I root, change dpi, then freeze or remove every system app with "samsung" or "sprint" on it.. and this time around its knox to add to the list.
Then again thats what I done with hundreds of computers for the last 15 or so years, so the habit kind of carries on =)
Not a fan of bloatware =)
rawdikrik said:
320 feels a tinge too small. Any idea what other settings could be used easily that aren't so small?
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I would love to see more screenshots. I had rooted and went to 240dpi on my original note, and love the way that looks. Still on the fence with rooting my note 3. Haven't read enough about knox, even though I know there are ways to root without tripping knox now. But I m itching to change my dpi
Thanks for the guide. I put mine at 370 dpi, which looks good for me, without being too tiny
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anyone tried changing DPI to "Android System" and "System UI"? I had this changed on my Note 2 (to 240) so that the settings and overall UI was smaller. I tried changing it on the Note 3 to different DPI to test out but it seem sto leave a small border right under the status bar. I tried 320, 350, 370, 400 .. I'm using Nova Launcher btw. (JellyBombed ROM)
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anyone tried changing DPI to "Android System" and "System UI"? I had this changed on my Note 2 (to 240) so that the settings and overall UI was smaller. I tried changing it on the Note 3 to different DPI to test out but it seem sto leave a small border right under the status bar. I tried 320, 350, 370, 400 .. I'm using Nova Launcher btw. (JellyBombed ROM)
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Hmm surprised since your running Nova. . I thought only stock launcher did that. .
Speaking of which. . Anyone thinking about redoing the stock launcher to handle the better dpi?
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cherylbaker said:
Hmm surprised since your running Nova. . I thought only stock launcher did that. .
Speaking of which. . Anyone thinking about redoing the stock launcher to handle the better dpi?
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yea specially since it looked fine on the note2. Perhaps it's the higher res of the note3?
Does the lockscreen have a separate package? Or is it part of a larger package?
Im trying to change the phone dialer back to stock, but despite the changes it stays the same at 370. What am I doing wrong?
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Im trying to change the phone dialer back to stock, but despite the changes it stays the same at 370. What am I doing wrong?
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Try checking all 3 of these settings to 480
com.android.providers.telephony
com.sec.phone
com.android.phone
You can set them manually to 480 (stock)
If you set your overall DPI to something like 370 you need to make those apps bigger individually to 480
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Hmm surprised since your running Nova. . I thought only stock launcher did that. .
Speaking of which. . Anyone thinking about redoing the stock launcher to handle the better dpi?
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I use a scaleable launcher ( ADW EX) for that reason.
In the past when I tried to modify the stock launcher or system UI, it would cause all kinds of force closes..
The primary reasons i believe is due to how Touchwiz integrates its widgets- like clock for example
Changing just systemUI or Launcher but not changing all the other components manually that are linked to it can trigger "Unfortunately System UI Has stopped Working" errors.
The keyboard is another one thats tied in, as well as the lockscreen.
I haven't gotten around to trying to do all of that, or learning how to yet.. which is why i made the guide with the already available apps.
By changing the overall system UI and using a different launcher, you can have the smaller slim status bar, without having everything else break, since all of the DPIs match. Then finding different processes to tweak with "App Settings" allows you to experiment safely without risking breaking everything.
One super annoying issue i had back when I did DPI tweaking on my Note 2 was if you didnt flash a replacement keyboard in recovery, you would have to setup android by continously tapping the error message all the way through phone setup until you could get to the settings screen to change the samsung keyboard to a different one. Samsung's keyboard dosen't like dpi changes on the note 2. But so far no issues personally with the note 3.
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Try checking all 3 of these settings to 480
com.android.providers.telephony
com.sec.phone
com.android.phone
You can set them manually to 480 (stock)
If you set your overall DPI to something like 370 you need to make those apps bigger individually to 480
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Along with a hunch, I found another thread that stated to change contacts and contact storage as well as dialer storage. That fixed it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440365
Quick question can u provide more detailed instructions to reverting those apps u listed back to stock dpi...I try to do it through xposed app settings but the corrections aren't taking
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Quick question can u provide more detailed instructions to reverting those apps u listed back to stock dpi...I try to do it through xposed app settings but the corrections aren't taking
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Nvm phone dpi and contacts dpi both have to be changed at the same time
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Does anybody else have an issue when they change there dpi where whatsapp wallpaper changes to a standard white background?
Any way around it?
its annoying and i have been researching for days and cant seem to find anything to fix it.