Getting ready to jailbreak my verizon note 2 using Adam Outler's method. I have a wubi installed ubuntu 12.10 64 bit linux system installed on a win7 64 bit machine, so both operating systems are available. I am tempted to use the linux, as there seem to be fewer problems posted on that system, but I am not sure if the wubi installation causes problems. Soooo, which os would be the best to use, that is , which would be the least likely to cause me problems.
I also have saved the first Casual file for this method (r218b), if that is beneficial.
Thanks in advance.
Considering Jailbreaking is reserved for iOS, I'd say iOS is probably a good starting point. As for unlocking, you can probably use whatever you want.
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Considering Jailbreaking is reserved for iOS, I'd say iOS is probably a good starting point. As for unlocking, you can probably use whatever you want.
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I used that term since it was what Mr. Outler used.
I thought I heard Apple pushed out an update that blocked the latest Jailbreak?
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randy6675 said:
Getting ready to jailbreak my verizon note 2 using Adam Outler's method. I have a wubi installed ubuntu 12.10 64 bit linux system installed on a win7 64 bit machine, so both operating systems are available. I am tempted to use the linux, as there seem to be fewer problems posted on that system, but I am not sure if the wubi installation causes problems. Soooo, which os would be the best to use, that is , which would be the least likely to cause me problems.
I also have saved the first Casual file for this method (r218b), if that is beneficial.
Thanks in advance.
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I use Ubuntu as my daily use but borrowed my wife Win machine to run Casual because I found it simpler to just do it that way....i wanted it done and now
Outler does call it a jailbreak under the new 2012 DMCA Excemption
Thanks! Did you run the original version (r218b), or the latest Casual?
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randy6675 said:
Thanks! Did you run the original version (r218b), or the latest Casual?
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i ran the r218b, but i did mine back in Feb. I think it is written to auto update so it might not matter
I recently received a replacement phone & used the latest CASUAL. It was very fast & easy. Easier than the original.
Thanks. Which operating system are you on, Linux, Mac, or Windows?
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Considering Jailbreaking is reserved for iOS, I'd say iOS is probably a good starting point. As for unlocking, you can probably use whatever you want.
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People have started calling it Jailbreaking when you unlock the bootloader so as to avoid confusion with unlocking the carrier (IE the illegal form of unlocking).
Morkai Almandragon said:
People have started calling it Jailbreaking when you unlock the bootloader so as to avoid confusion with unlocking the carrier (IE the illegal form of unlocking).
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That is the justification for calling it that, but I think the reasoning is still kinda dumb.
At the risk of pulling things too far off topic, unlocking was never declared illegal, despite what the media will tell you. The Library of Congress (that maintains the DMCA) stated that unlocking wasn't automatically exempted from DMCA protections, meaning that DMCA cases could be brought against people who did it. If the cases are brought up, it's up to the courts to decide whether or not it actually is illegal. Simply excluding the protections doesn't automatically make it illegal. Also, the Obama administration has already given an order that says you are protected if you are not under contract on the phone you are unlocking.
For anyone that is interested, I went with the wubi installed ubuntu, and it worked flawlessly. Now rooted, unlocked, and on Jellybeans.
I used Linux. Tried Windows 8, too many problems, booted into Linux, and got it done quick abd easy.
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What ever you are most comfortable. Win and linux are fine
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I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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really? another thread about this?
to answer this so it can be locked or merged:
1. let's stop speculating about an OS which is at least 7 months if not a year out (for ARM) techincally windows will be able to run, but getting it to run is going to depend on a lot of things we don't have details about.
2. ubuntu should be portable, it's going to depend on the bootloader to a fair degree as to how easy it is to do.
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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To be fair, you are like the 10th person to ask this question about a separate OS then the one it comes with. The answers is no one knows. Just like no one knows if Win8 will be worth a damn.
Windows 8... maybe, but there's an awful lot of unknowns there.
I'd love to have the Prime dual-boot with a Linux distro though, and that seems quite feasible (though the bootloader is an unknown; I have faith in XDA though!). That really would make it into a full netbook.
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Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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in the time it took to open this thread you could have found that it has already been covered.
in this day of instant information, it just irks me when people don't take the time to find what's already there.
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I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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Idk about win8 (like others have said there's a thread for that) but as for linux, many devices have been able to boot Ubuntu and bt5 on top with root using chroot and androidvnc. I'm sure it will work considering I've run both on my g2x. There's a thread here on xda for those but currently at work and don't have efficient access to that link. Think its in the nexus s forums?
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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If your a hacker or linux based nerd, then I get Ubuntu. power is king in code crunching. But Windows? Anyone needing windows on the move is 90% working. I dont think you need that much power for that.
If i could boot a windows 8 install off an SD Card in the dock i would be alllllllllllll about that.
i want to put the blackberry playbook OS on it, but emulated inside ICS, and then i can run android apps, emulated through the playbook OS, which is emulated through android. possibly while running an snes emulator.
it's going to be so meta, and you all will be so jealous. :|
There are many threads about Windows 8. The Prime has the Tegra 3 chip which will be supported in Windows 8 and most likely several Linux flavors. We'll see. No let's stop discussing this for the next couple months.
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
benzas said:
best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
Will you be able to run MS excel with VB editing and running it if/when prime gets Win 8?
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
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same here.
At the moment the solution that worked for original Transformer and phones was ok but I would love to actually boot it off a usb drive or SDcard and not have to run the GUI over VNC.
Although Backtrack devs have said that the ARM image released is only for testing and they wont be supporting it. Hopefully they start to fully support it as tablets become more powerful.
Hey does android run on this thing?
/sarcasm
Windows 8 Thread from NOVEMBER: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283
What? Microsoft missed their mark here. I don't see them making a dent on the tablet market that it's rival Google has a hold of.
I would like to develop my own application, I've gotten my feet wet in programming in java and a little c++ but I want to learn everything I can.
Also maybe are there compiling tools available directly on Android?
Can anyone get me started?
Much thanks for people who help.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
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I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
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thank you very much! i just recently decided i want to become a developer and possibly a get a degree in computer science. (im stilll young, luckily i got time to do this) and so im very new to all this. ive been rooting and flashing for 2 years, but never have created anything. so thank you for taking your time to answer me, regardless of my noobness
I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I may PM you tonight, I'll see if I can get that tip calculator to work. Thanks!
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Hi all - just signed up. I'm receiving my 10 Monday. I have an Infinity and wanted to give the Nexus 10 shot as it seems like a great tablet. I'm not likely to root either one. Is there anything you all suggest to get the most out of the Nexus 10? I'm fairly new to the tablet world although have owned an android phone for several years.
Thanks!
Welcome and congrats! Here is a link someone started that shares your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023608
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^ Great thread for starters but make sure and DO YOUR READING before you unlock and root your device -- or you will end up with a $400 makeshift frisbee disk. Unlocking your boot-loader/rooting is what makes android so much fun, I would recommend it
Derp: sounds you've rooted before, but I suppose the above statement still stands lol
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^ Great thread for starters but make sure and DO YOUR READING before you unlock and root your device -- or you will end up with a $400 makeshift frisbee disk. Unlocking your boot-loader/rooting is what makes android so much fun, I would recommend it
Derp: sounds you've rooted before, but I suppose the above statement still stands lol
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I did read that thread but as I said - I'm not likely to root...at least not right away.
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I did read that thread but as I said - I'm not likely to root...at least not right away.
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Sounds like quite a few people are unlocking / rooting and leaving the stock ROM which is likely what I will do. I like having the freedom that Root provides to install some apps etc.
Nexus 10 will be my first tablet also, so I'll be having quite a bit of fun for the first few weeks figuring out how exactly I will be using it
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Sounds like quite a few people are unlocking / rooting and leaving the stock ROM which is likely what I will do. I like having the freedom that Root provides to install some apps etc.
Nexus 10 will be my first tablet also, so I'll be having quite a bit of fun for the first few weeks figuring out how exactly I will be using it
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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From what I've gathered, and from experience, I think the benefits of Root give the user a great deal more control of what goes on with his/her device -- that is, in part, what apps are accessing resources. For example, with my HTC One XL, I was able to install an app (which requires root access) that allows me to freeze apps while they are not in use -- launch them to unfreeze and use them when I need but when I'm not using, they aren't going to automatically run processes that drain my battery. I also installed a custom Kernel, and there is a root-required app that allows me to adjust my CPU frequencies and voltages to maximize battery life and performance.
I am relatively new to rooting devices, as I started in late October, but I can tell you that I have had a ton of fun doing it.
In any event, I really dont think rooting is that valuable to mainstream users if you ask me -- If you aren't looking into flashing custom ROMs or using special utilities/apps on your device then I wouldn't bother rooting/unlocking bootloader.
Since you asked risks I'll address that too: The risks are bricking (completely unusable) your device if you flash an incompatible ROM, but this is easily avoided by sticking only to flashing ROMs for the Nexus 10. You can also damage the components of your device if you overclock too much etc....Other risks are that ROMs are buggy sometimes despite the very hard work of the devs here (They are truly amazing here) but the bugs may take away from your experience potentially. There may be plenty of other risks but these are the ones I can think of so far.
I was completely unaware of root/unlock up until about 2 months ago and was completely new to the process. I was able to read great guides put together by the XDA community here that walked me through the process and I was successful in unlocking my One X and I now finally feel like I am getting the moneys worth out of my device that I payed good $$$ for.
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Rooting is quick and painless if you use the Nexus 10 Toolkit available in the development section! My Galaxy Nexus also has a toolkit from the same dev, makes things SO much easier/quicker.
The risks of rooting are almost non-existent. Really, if the procedure doesn't work for you, nothing changes & you just won't have root permissions. I've personally never had anything bad happen, but I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried some sketchy method to root...the methods here are far from that, just read up and follow the instructions.
Benefits are basically the freedom to remove system apps and make backups of any of your apps. There are also a ton of root apps that allow you to customize your device the way you like it. With root, you get full control and the freedom to tinker.
Nexus devices are absolutley meant for consumers who don't root or unlock, but what is great about them is if you want to do either of the latter..it is much easier to do.
Also, I suggest you try and personally compare your N10 and Infinity before you read any of the general comparison threads. lol
Oh and welcome to the vanilla side of Android! :good:
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Rooting is quick and painless if you use the Nexus 10 Toolkit available in the development section! My Galaxy Nexus also has a toolkit from the same dev, makes things SO much easier/quicker.
The risks of rooting are almost non-existent. Really, if the procedure doesn't work for you, nothing changes & you just won't have root permissions. I've personally never had anything bad happen, but I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried some sketchy method to root...the methods here are far from that, just read up and follow the instructions.
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Toolkits are a nice method for rooting for beginners, but (imo) it's better to learn how to flash (and do generally other stuff) without the need of a toolkit.
When I rooted my Nexus 10, I just unlocked the bootloader (manually with fastboot), restocked, installed custom recovery (TWRP; fastboot) and then flashed a SuperSU CWM-flashable package from recovery. I did a lot of messing around with flashing and stuff on my SGT7 and Nexus 7, so this wasn't really anything new or difficult at all. I started out with a toolkit on my Nexus 7, and found it very annoying after a while when trying to flash a custom recovery (generally took a while for the device to end up having to reboot and unlock, and if I already did unlock then I think the toolkit wouldn't continue on unless I selected another option, and then if drivers aren't installed properly (I switched between a few devices) then that can also cause the toolkit to mess up, drivers and adb would be outdated from the toolkit in-comparison to what Google offered, etc.).
Simply put, Toolkits might be nice in the beginning, but I wouldn't recommend relying on them forever If your only mission is to just root the device though, a toolkit can do that pretty painlessly.
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Toolkits are a nice method for rooting for beginners, but (imo) it's better to learn how to flash (and do generally other stuff) without the need of a toolkit.
When I rooted my Nexus 10, I just unlocked the bootloader (manually with fastboot), restocked, installed custom recovery (TWRP; fastboot) and then flashed a SuperSU CWM-flashable package from recovery. I did a lot of messing around with flashing and stuff on my SGT7 and Nexus 7, so this wasn't really anything new or difficult at all. I started out with a toolkit on my Nexus 7, and found it very annoying after a while when trying to flash a custom recovery (generally took a while for the device to end up having to reboot and unlock, and if I already did unlock then I think the toolkit wouldn't continue on unless I selected another option, and then if drivers aren't installed properly (I switched between a few devices) then that can also cause the toolkit to mess up, drivers and adb would be outdated from the toolkit in-comparison to what Google offered, etc.).
Simply put, Toolkits might be nice in the beginning, but I wouldn't recommend relying on them forever If your only mission is to just root the device though, a toolkit can do that pretty painlessly.
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Absolutely agree with you on that one. My first Android device was a Infuse 4G. Every root and recovery procedure was absolutely manual. Not to mention most of the methods were hackjobs from the OG Galaxy S and required some extra coersing w/ Root Explorer and a terminal lol. Once I got my GNex, I could do anything I needed to do manually; I was actually rather shocked at how simple things were w/ a Nexus device.
Really though, I don't at all mind these toolkits, it might be important to learn what goes on behind the scripts, but lots of ppl here would have never attempted to tinker w/ android w/o some sort of script/batch automation. That said, i'm sure they cause quite a bit more traffic in the Q&A section when things to go wrong. lol
Thanks for all of the replies.
It should arrive today and I'll compare it with my Infinity first and then go from there.
Looking forward to know the N10
When I first received mine, I didnt think that I would recieve it till closer to the end of day, as stated with UPS. But it arrived at 10am! Hoping it happens the second time around for my replacement. Would love to have the whole day playing with it
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So...I just got an Android ~5 days ago. My friend told me to root the phone and get plain Android on it instead of HTC's bloated modified version of it. I'm not a newbie to SSH and managing linux via prompt (I assume rooting the phone is what that means?..) Anyway, I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been an iPhone user for...~2 years. I'm completely new to Android.
Can anyone start me on the right path, maybe give me some explanations as to what I'm actually doing? Does this void my warranty with Best Buy (probably...jailbreaking the iPhone does, but recovering from that is easy-peezy..)
I'd like to tinker with my phone, but it seems so much more complicated to fix the phone if I make an oops than doing so with an iPhone does.
Thanks in advance.
Assuming you have the DNA, as that is the section you are in, there is quite a few helpful threads already. Check the sticky posts, they usually link to helpful threads.
With the speed of the quad core phones, debloating isn't needed as much as before, but rooting does have it's ups and downs.
I found that AOSP (pure android) based roms compared to sense (HTC software) are a little mote buggy and not as fluid. They feel snappier, but really aren't.
Try some sense based roms before going full aosp on this device. Take it from me. My old devices, I would run only AOSP, but after usi.g sense 5 on this phone, it has so.e good HTC only features.
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I'll echo Uzephi, give sense a try first. If you really want to tinker make sure to make a nandroid in recovery. You will probably need to use either moonshine or rum runner to do what's called s-off your phone first. That will also root it. I've found the easiest way to do that is to boot to a live USB Linux, then you don't have to deal with driver issues. If you have windows 8 or 8.1 64 bit there have been fastboot issues with drivers seeing the phone for some users, myself included. Give us some more info on what your PC set up and phone OS versions are and we can help some more when and if you want. Have you gotten the latest OTAs.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android 4.2 is the base operating system and HTC customized it to their liking, which they call Sense, and you have version 5 of Sense.
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...I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android phone manufacturers like to give their phones a specific look and feel, which is why android phones can look so different. This modification/augmentation of the base android software environment is commonly referred to as a UI (user interface), or Skin.
The term 'skin' is a terrible over-simplification, but it gets the point across. The vanilla Android software environment is, for many, quite boring, and not as powerful as it can be. Companies like HTC and Samsung incorporate cool animations, graphics, and sounds effects, as well as software that takes advantage of their camera's capabilities.
HTC's UI is called Sense
Samsung's is called TouchWiz Motorola's used to be called Blur (don't know if it still is)
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If you're brand new to Android, I would just use the phone as it is now without rooting or putting a custom ROM on it. Once you're comfortable and familiar with Android then you can decided if you want to root and rom.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Rooting is akin to jailbreak, gaining control of your phone. You can root your phone (get root directory access) and still remain completely stock for your Rom.
I personally have had the best experience with sense based roms. Your experience may differ depending on what you use.
If you want to use mobile hotspot on your phone without paying subscription then rooting is a must.
Linux used to be a must to root. Now there are windows based options, I used moonshine.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Yes, correct, capped data is forbidden by law to charge for mobile hotspot, unlimited data is chargeable.
Edit* At OP, Sense is the king flavor of android, stick unrooted for a while as you won't really see a need for it yet, unless you want to go and throw on different ROM's and try them out, which in that case def. go and try viperDNA (best sense ROM avail.) AOSP/CM based ROM's are still a WIP and are ok to use but you will miss out on everything sense (sense apps, widgets, features, and even some hardware features)
Gaining root is becoming the sys admin of the phone, you would be able to read/write to the system partition of the phone and execute system privileged commands that are more for the hacker/modder/enthusiast (not normal user, you really wouldn't find a use for that type of stuff, the only app that would serve you good is "Titanium Backup" that does require root but it basically backs up all of the apps and their data)
I am currently in the process of building a Note 3 Rom of Ubuntu Touch. I have the experience with Ubuntu and Linux Development to do this, but I would like non-monetary support, like volunteers to find bugs. I'm using a rom based off of stock, minus KNOX (here) so it should work fine.... but that's never a guarantee. I will be testing this ROM myself, but I want to find every bug possible.
If any developers would like to get some addons in here, pm me. I would like to make this as useful as possible.
When CM11 100% functional source code is released, I will rebuild this off of it. I do want to include the best I can into this.
This will be based off of MJE, so, if there could be a person or two to hold back from updating, and trying this out, I would owe you sooo many cookies. I mean, MOUNTAINS of cookies. This voucher is redeemable, alternatively, for a lake of Caramel or an Ice Cream Storm.
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The Cyan text is invalid. Upon rereading sources, it will not matter what rom I use.
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This project will be postponed until the completion of the CM11 Note 3 source code.
I would love to help test!
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I would love to help test!
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please don't take offence, but have you played with custom roms before?
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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Thank you! Would you mind listing some Ubuntu apps you would like to have included in it? I will already include a couple for testing purposes, but I want to make this enjoyable and useful, after testing
As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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Also will this be the dualbootable android and ubuntu touch buikd?
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As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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well, unfortunately, I can't build it yet, unless you don't mind not having root. I know where to download the stock source code, but I found out that root access would not be a given, even with as little Ubuntu takes from Android. Not to mention, it's a lot easier with the CyanogenMod source.
I will make sure to get all the extended basics. Notepad++, Terminal, basic utilities, media utilities, a file manager, and others. I'll put an app of my own for feedback purposes. Ubuntu Touch is supposed to have the Play Store, so, if I miss something you want, no problem.
I think, when I have my first completely stable build, I'll move on to building a developer's build, including support for programming environments. Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
If anyone can build an app, I have an idea for the way the interface designer would work. PM me.
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Thank you for asking. That sparked the thought on how to re-package this for distribution. Before, I was going to have everyone adb it into their phone, as per the documentation that exists for Ubuntu Touch. However, it would be easy to just zip it all, then transfer and install. To adb it is to just make sure it's clean, but I can make sure that it happens clean via certain adjustments.
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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ktetreault14 said:
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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I'll go ahead and start building it then. I was thinking that there would be not-so-much interest in a non-rooted version. As far as using the CM code, that would give root and the most ease of building. Using Stock gives a guaranteed driver support, however, I am not too sure if KNOX is integrated into the parts that Ubuntu would take from the code. I'll have to research it a bit. I won't bother if KNOX will be pulled in too.
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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ktetreault14 said:
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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No need, and it wouldn't work anyways. All CM11 source is currently not 100% stable, therefore, I don't know if it will work properly with Ubuntu. I'm grabbing the source directly from Samsung.
Oh I see. Will this build be able to switch between android and ubuntu, or was that only for Nexus?
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Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
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We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
Frank
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Frank Westlake said:
We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
Frank
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Would it be too much to ask to make 1 build of old and new and then continue building on whichever you see like to more? Just to try it out, lol if its to much dont bother
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Ubuntu Touch Dying???
I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back. Maybe we could turn Ubuntu into a Powerhouse Platform, by creating Ubuntu apps that utilize the power of the Note 3.
N3 has the power to run a sql server and apache, if it's only for a small network. Imagine, being able to make a site for your your friends only, and being able to manage it like a full server, however, you'd have no fees (unless you want a domain, but even then, there are free domains).
Going on this idea, if a sql db is on a mobile device, there is less risk and more ability to control access (ie. turn on airplane mode to disable it)
The N3 could be used as a file distribution spot. You could have an automatic broadcasting of a particular file. All newer galaxy phones could just access it from the wifi direct menu. What an easier way to hand out flyers?
We need to think of ways to utilize the power of the N3 and the simplicity of the Ubuntu Touch SDK. A dump trucks can carry a lot of feathers.
I, personally, dislike using C++ for app development (Thank GOD for Java), but I will do it for this project.
I need more ideas, but please take time to make a list, instead of 1/post
mobile-power-monger said:
No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Eerrrmm... I'm a 100% sure that Ubuntu touch uses the cm kernel. That's why you need a Developer edition device. It's the only one that can flash kernels So if the following statement is true. Then this can't run the 99% of the Verizon note 3s correct?
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mobile-power-monger said:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Awesome. Im ready to start flashing, im gonna start reading up on my ubuntu touch and check it out. Also does abyone knkw if im in ubuntu touch and I hook up hdmi out to my tv does it go into desktop mode? Or is that onky with a dock
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mobile-power-monger said:
I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back.
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I read (on Android Central, I think) that Ubuntu Touch development was being suspended for all devices, except Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (original). Maybe that's why......