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Yeah... I have been dreaming of the day I get my note sense I typed "tablet phone" into google this past January. In one of my random thoughts came my galaxy note dual booting ics and windows 8. I feel it would be amazing to just be able to use windows 8 in my car (maybe have windows on an sd card and Andy on the internal storage) and use the metro apps. But it would mostly be for the sake of saying I have windows 8 in my pocket. Is this possible? I know windows runs on arm now but I'm not sure if it will run on the arm 7 in the AT&T note. Thanks!
Ps. How do I do it if it's possible?
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I think it would be awesome! We'll probably see Ubuntu on it before anything else.
Wow, that would be cool, but unlikely.
Anyway, MS has being yapping about this for 10 years, about how the are going to embed Windows.
From what I remember, it will not run any normal Windows app, so what's the point?
If it ran Regular Windows apps it would crush IOS and Android, but it won't
(i'm pretty sure. Hope is fun though eh? )
well, Windows 8 is supposed to support ARM architecture, so it is technically a possibility. From what I have seen rumored however, the ARM capable W8 will only be available commercially and licenses will be strictly enforced. This makes me sad on the bright side, Im sure some employee somewhere will leak the ARM W8 for all to use. Whether or not it will be able to compile and be used on these kinds of devices is up in the air.
ARM Win8 comes with Office suite out of box. That's about most ppl uses a laptop today.
Other apps can easily be recompiled to support ARM. So given time, it won't be a problem.
Win8 is a closed source platform. Obtain source code is highly unlikely and illegal. So is porting win8 to any platform that is not officially licensed to.
foxbat121 said:
ARM Win8 comes with Office suite out of box. That's about most ppl uses a laptop today.
Other apps can easily be recompiled to support ARM. So given time, it won't be a problem.
Win8 is a closed source platform. Obtain source code is highly unlikely and illegal. So is porting win8 to any platform that is not officially licensed to.
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if windows 8 supports the galaxy note, wouldnt we be able to put it on there?
and what about the dev preview. just as a test. would that work?
I remember reading that WOA is only going to support Microsoft apps and won't support running, emulating or porting any x86/64 apps. Anybody know if that's definite?
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Orange_furball said:
if windows 8 supports the galaxy note, wouldnt we be able to put it on there?
and what about the dev preview. just as a test. would that work?
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It won't. Microsoft will require specialized hardware to use Win8 (very similar to what they did to Wp7). It already requires a UEFI secure boot on any arm tab and mandated that the devices loaded with Win8 can't dual boot Android. It's not something that you can install yourself. It requires a ROM build by OEMs.
Any public beta you will see release will be x86 version only. ARM tablet version will never be released to public even after release. OEM only.
Maroon Mushroom said:
I think it would be awesome! We'll probably see Ubuntu on it before anything else.
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will it be possible to dual boot Ubuntu and Android?
zoso28 said:
I remember reading that WOA is only going to support Microsoft apps and won't support running, emulating or porting any x86/64 apps. Anybody know if that's definite?
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It supports any app that compiles into ARM code, don't have to be Microsoft only app but x86 apps certainly won't work. Emulating x86 code on ARM is useless.
Metro apps also must be published through Marketplace. You can't install/sideload Metro apps.
Microsoft recently released a blog post about this. They do specify WOA (Windows on ARM) will not natively support x86[-64] programs, nor will they provide any support for running them; still, I can't see them trying to block third-party emulators.
WOA will also not be distributed as standalone software, so I think it _extremely_ unlikely that it will ever be ported to the Note. They state that the goal for WOA devices to be "integrated, end-to-end products that include hardware, firmware, and Windows on ARM software." So there is basically no chance of official support, and since MS won't be releasing the source for WOA, I don't really think it's possible.
teiglin said:
Microsoft recently released a blog post about this. They do specify WOA (Windows on ARM) will not natively support x86[-64] programs, nor will they provide any support for running them; still, I can't see them trying to block third-party emulators.
WOA will also not be distributed as standalone software, so I think it _extremely_ unlikely that it will ever be ported to the Note. They state that the goal for WOA devices to be "integrated, end-to-end products that include hardware, firmware, and Windows on ARM software." So there is basically no chance of official support, and since MS won't be releasing the source for WOA, I don't really think it's possible.
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well that was disappointing.
So i guess that answers my question. thanks
But it means Samsung could do it!
lte + vnc to win8 at home=win.
Here you go. Win8 "running" on G-Note via RDC.
From what I've read won't be able to run Windows 8rt on my Prime, since its not open sourced.
But is it correct that I can buy a Windows 8rt tablet, like the asus tf600 and install android on it?
The reason I ask is because I have to replace my Prime anyway and would like to get the best bang for my buck.
Thanks in advance
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I suppose there may be a method considering you can dual boot Windows and Linux. So I guess there IS hope but I wouldn't count on a method being developed quickly.
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From what I've read won't be able to run Windows 8rt on my Prime, since its not open sourced.
But is it correct that I can buy a Windows 8rt tablet, like the asus tf600 and install android on it?
The reason I ask is because I have to replace my Prime anyway and would like to get the best bang for my buck.
Thanks in advance
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I wouldnt count on it until you have seen it happen.
Don't get an itchy trigger finger based on a what if
I dont think it would be possible. Microsoft locked their tablets down pretty hard. I would be surprised if you could install open software on it, without using exploits and stuff. But i'm no expert
On the other hand, why would you want Windows RT anyway? If you need office look into softmaker office for android Its really good.
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
Or Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Linux --> x86 Processors
clouds5 said:
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
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I´m not a expert, but this is possible! I have on my wetab (x86) the android x86 version.
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You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
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this is more interesting and I ´m looking how to become android (like tf300 or tf700) on my tf 600.
Yeah me too
maybe if you got one with Windows 8 Pro (like the surface Pro) you could run Bluestacks on it. That will run Android apps, just not the whole operating system.
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I dont think it would be possible. Microsoft locked their tablets down pretty hard. I would be surprised if you could install open software on it, without using exploits and stuff. But i'm no expert
On the other hand, why would you want Windows RT anyway? If you need office look into softmaker office for android Its really good.
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
Or Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Linux --> x86 Processors
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There are Linux distros for ARM processors.
SecureBoot
Now that linux can get past SecureBoot, this seems vaguely possible. I'm no expert though.
sa- said:
Now that linux can get past SecureBoot, this seems vaguely possible. I'm no expert though.
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The main issue is still that W8 is closed source software as well as paid software. It would technically be illegal
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McJesus15 said:
The main issue is still that W8 is closed source software as well as paid software. It would technically be illegal
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When has something being illegal stopped anyone? :highfive:
hey guys does any of you out there know and can leave me a comment about if there is a windows for tablet ? eee pad transformer prime tf 201
doesnt matter which windows either xp or 7 or 8
ill be glad to see a comment in the near future
Only Windows RT can run on the TF201, and that is only if Asus lets us by providing the Windows installer customised for the Prime complete with bootloader, which is pretty unlikely. XP, 7 and 8 cannot run on the TF201 because they require the x86 architecture, whereas Windows RT runs on ARM.
That said, porting *may* be possible since our device is quite close to reference Windows RT tablets - Tegra 3, 1GB RAM, the works.
yo check this out
http://kat.ph/windows-7-professional-x86-by-rt-seven-lite-t6018593.html
i found some thing with "RT" tell me if it works
PS : i had no idea what you were talking about but yet just tell me if there is any available windows for the transformer prime
Thank you for your help )
i also found this !!
http://thepiratebay.se/search/windows 8 rt/0/99/0
check it out !!
tell me if any of it work will you ?!!
madshark2009 said:
i also found this !!
http://thepiratebay.se/search/windows 8 rt/0/99/0
check it out !!
tell me if any of it work will you ?!!
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Thats windows 7 RT. Its made for x86 / x64 architecture. Our devices use Arm based architecture. As stated in many other "windows 8 " threads on here, it is not possible as windows 8 requires a license for one ( making it illegal to port ), but also that it requires a different bootloader which we dont have access to for our device.
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what @pandaball & @pyraxiate said is true... the only Windows version capable of running on our devices is Windows 8 RT... but Windows 8 RT requires an encrypted and Microsoft-signed bootloader to run... so unless Asus releases such a bootloader for the Prime (which is very unlikely), the chances of getting Windows on this device are extremely slim and next to none...
Also, it would be illegal to port and share Windows, especially given that Windows 8 RT is not commercially available for purchase and will only come pre-installed...
That said, you should not be posting like to warez sites and link to torrents sharing illegal software here... it is against the rules!!
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what @pandaball & @pyraxiate said is true... the only Windows version capable of running on our devices is Windows 8 RT... but Windows 8 RT requires an encrypted and Microsoft-signed bootloader to run... so unless Asus releases such a bootloader for the Prime (which is very unlikely), the chances of getting Windows on this device are extremely slim and next to none...
Also, it would be illegal to port and share Windows, especially given that Windows 8 RT is not commercially available for purchase and will only come pre-installed...
That said, you should not be posting like to warez sites and link to torrents sharing illegal software here... it is against the rules!!
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Glad to see you are still slumming in the tf201 forums
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I'm sure some people wouldn't have an issue paying for the Licencing if it came down to it, making it legal..... Surely the Asus Windows RT tablet would have something that we could take?
Microsoft won't do that - the device is unlockable so anyone coult try to decrypt their bootloader /bios - definitely bad for them. Apart from lack of Windows button there are plenty of incompatibilities - video card have to be DirectX 10 capable. AFAIK DirectX 11 may be supported from Tegra 4.
So summing up - no chance, even for hackers I think
Hey guys.
I have neither Windows RT device nor Chromebook but I know that both of them are based on ARM architecture. What is more, I read from news that certain developer of Google installed Ubuntu on Chromebook to enlarge the latter's offline features.
So my question is: is it possible to make a Windows 8 RT ROM for Chromebook?
It's a big challenge but will be very useful, especially for those geeks who have Chromebook and wanna try Windows.
Don't laugh if it sounds silly.
And thank your for your joining the talk.
right now, no. Later down the road?...maybe
Apparently the BIOS is a huge problem.
I heard Ubuntu runs great on it though.
Not legally... Windows RT is only being released as an OEM-install version, which means someone would have to mess around with the files that already exist on a pre-installed RT device, drivers at the present time are unable to be compiled nor installed on Windows RT due to Microsoft's adoption of the Apple ecosystem, and the bootloader would also be an issue. But, I have seen someone get the HD2 running it, it was news like a month ago http://blog.laptopmag.com/hacker-gets-windows-rt-running-on-old-school-htc-hd2-phone , but it's horribly laggy and slow.
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right now, no. Later down the road?...maybe
Apparently the BIOS is a huge problem.
I heard Ubuntu runs great on it though.
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You're right. Just be patient and be confident in hackers lol
bal01 said:
Not legally... Windows RT is only being released as an OEM-install version, which means someone would have to mess around with the files that already exist on a pre-installed RT device, drivers at the present time are unable to be compiled nor installed on Windows RT due to Microsoft's adoption of the Apple ecosystem, and the bootloader would also be an issue. But, I have seen someone get the HD2 running it, it was news like a month ago http://blog.laptopmag.com/hacker-gets-windows-rt-running-on-old-school-htc-hd2-phone , but it's horribly laggy and slow.
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Thanks for the reply. Yea I agree with your point. But developers are always making the impossible things possible, aren't they?
Actually HD2 isn't the only android device that can be installed Windows RT/Windows Phone 8. I saw in other forums that ZTE Blade CDMA2000 version+ (N880E) also has similar hardware environments that enables Windows Phone rom installation. So a Windows ROM for Chromebooks is worth expecting!
Yah thats right ubuntu runs good on it.Try out once!!!
Thanks for asking this question I always wondered myself too just never brave like enough like you to ask.
I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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Funny how Google makes an open source smartphone OS but their OS for laptops is closed source. [emoji17]
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AndroiderShomette said:
I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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Why not install Linux and then switch from Linux to windows? Would it work?
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TheJerwin said:
Why not install Linux and then switch from Linux to windows? Would it work?
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How ? Vm? What r u talkin about
that would be wonderful . but no
Dual boot
Dual boot?
is it possible to buy any chromebook and than convert to ubuntu?
i want to have a full system.
Hello my friends
Excuse me I have a question
If win phone8 will hack,
Is it possible that custom Rom of Win phone 8 will run on Titan??
driftking132 said:
If win phone8 will hack
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Hacked must be bootloader - not OS. Actually WP8 phones have secureboot.
Is it possible that custom Rom of Win phone 8 will run on Titan??
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No.
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Counterquestion:
What is the aim of using such big letters? Poor eyesight?
AndrewSh said:
Hacked must be bootloader - not OS. Actually WP8 phones have secureboot.
No.
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Counterquestion:
What is the aim of using such big letters? Poor eyesight?
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WHY is that???
Even 50% is not possible
driftking132 said:
Hello my friends
Excuse me I have a question
If win phone8 will hack,
Is it possible that custom Rom of Win phone 8 will run on Titan??
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Windows Phone 7.x is CE kernal based; Windows Phone 8 is NT like Windows 8. Microsoft has plans to introduce Windows 8 Phones in the near distant future. The HTC Titan I (Eternity) was the last Windows Phone that the bootloader could be HSPL, nothing since has been successfully "hacked," though there is some talk the Huawei model has made some progress towards that goal. My only beef with the HTC Titan are the mobile data speeds seem to be throttled at Cat 8 not Cat 10 and Skype not being able to run in background; other than that, I'm happy with the device.
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Windows Phone 7.x is CE kernal based; Windows Phone 8 is NT like Windows 8. Microsoft has plans to introduce Windows 8 Phones in the near distant future. The HTC Titan I (Eternity) was the last Windows Phone that the bootloader could be HSPL, nothing since has been successfully "hacked," though there is some talk the Huawei model has made some progress towards that goal. My only beef with the HTC Titan are the mobile data speeds seem to be throttled at Cat 8 not Cat 10 and Skype not being able to run in background; other than that, I'm happy with the device.
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What are the insights now after 2 years. Still no options to boot/install windows phone 8 to an htc titan? What about nokia apps and the here suite for windows phone 7.8 on the titan?