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I switched over to the titan from my BB Curve that also had a 2mp camera, and the Curve took beautiful shots. But every photo i've taken with the titan looks terrible at best... unless i'm going for that modern-art-fuzzy-washed-out look... Are there any fixes/hacks/adjustments that are available to improve the camera quality? I have everything set on high, played around with the white balance, all the other settings. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I'm on DCD's 2.3.1 rom right now, but the photo quality has been poorly ever since i purchased the phone with the stock rom and all the roms in between.
I would recommend trying the touch camera. The flash doesnt work, but the pictures are a million times better.
the touch camera is included in DCD's kitchen
Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
Can I rephrase the question?
Does anyone know why the shutter speed on the titan (and the apache) are so freaking slow?
I've found that the only decent pics I can take are pics of totally stationary objects, so clearly, the shutter is just staying open for too long.
Any input? Any chance there's a registry setting we can change to speed up the shutter?
before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up.
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Like most cell-phone cameras the lens on the titan is fixed-focus [wikipedia] so the focus doesn't adjust. This has been standard for pretty much any cell-phone camera including those on HTC devices. However they put an auto-focus lens on the Kaiser. Some cameras on cell-phones are becoming more sophisticated, but that doesn't do much for us stuck with the crap-cam on the titan lol.
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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been lurkin, but here is a topic I have specific experience with...
I've just recently sold my Vogue on eBay after fenagling a $99 Mogul from Sprint. I can tell you first hand that the Vogue camera SUCKS. Every picture I took, even outside, looked like I was inside a shoebox when the picture was taken. Blurry, dreary, orange-tinted and out-of-focus pictures are the norm with the Vogue.
I can't make a comparison yet, because my Mogul won't be here until tomorrow, but I will be sure to do so once it arrives.
Not too bad for a first post, eh?
Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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Anyone............???
ertman420 said:
Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Is that Sho'nuff? I'd say you picked a pretty sweet avatar already.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
Yea, i wasn't just talking crap about the phone, i absolutely love the Titan, it just seems to me that with all the ways we've found to customize them and improve them, there HAS to be a way to improve the camera.. I mean 2MP is 2MP, there's only so much you can expect from the resolution, I understand its limited by the hardware in the end, but I'm getting circa '99 digital camera quality with my phone and i take a lot of photos for business AND personal reasons and carrying around an camera PLUS my phone seems like overkill. Anyone found that HTC Touch camera .cab?
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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No, not sure at all. I've never tried it myself. But I seem to remember dcd posting a while back (around the time that the Vogue camera first got ported) that you couldn't just drop the installation files into a ROM you were already using.
the option is in his new 2.3.2 and 1.7 roms already.
Ok, i downloaded the 2.3.2 kitchen at home installed the TOUCH cam, the improvement is... well, not enough to really call it improvement.
Any other suggestions?
this is something i know about as ive had some great cell cams until i came across the mogul.
What makes this camera so bad is a mixed between three things.
1. The shutter takes way to long
This could be un-fixable as it could just be lousy hardware.
2. The camera apps takes up to much cpu processing
The mogul is constantly trying to automatically fix the exposure/ brightness/ saturation and what not, and it never seems to stick to a setting. My best example is that when in very bright light, it doenst go through a ton of different settings.
You can test this by just cutting the camera on and going outside on a bright day, the FPS of the camera will be smooth. Then go back inside or somewhere pretty dim, the framerate will stutter as it does a bunch of constant auto settings changes.
3. The exposer just plan sucks
Theres really no excuse except this being a cell cam and cell cams generally suck.
I had a a900 and sanyo m1 before my mogul, and geez, they cost half as much and half twice the quality camera wise. The m1 practically takes studio quality shots when in the proper light (it also had auto focus ).
Ive searched the registry of the mogul hundreds of times looking for whatever is slowing the camera down, but to no avail.
I think the only thing that would give it any noticeable improvement would be something that kills problem #2, all those auto settings changes. That will speed up the shutter for sure because like i posted, when in bright light, it doesnt go through those transitions and takes higher quality and faster pics.
IMO, htc shouldve left it up to me rather i wanted brightness and saturation to fix them selfs, even if you take off the auto settings in the camera menu, they are still running.
Thats my two cents, i hope someone can further investigate
just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
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just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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no, you were right. it can't be installed via cab alone.
what i did is use a cab to put the files on the device. then i move them with resco or totalcommander to the windows folder.
see cabs can't overwrite ROM files. neither can the stock PPC file explorer, but resco and total commander can.
instructions are in that thread.
Still debating if I should go through the trouble of updating (reinstalling everything and calling verizon doesn't sound nice right now). I want to see if the improvements are big enough. Also anything you notice that has not improve or got worse. I am just talking about the official roms. Thanks!
Currently Running Jt's Awesome CM6.2 Beta, (Quick thanks to Everyone Involved in bringing this to Us)
I Have a Personal Issue and wondering if anyone feels the same or could lend me a Helping Hand in getting it fixed.
My Question, Relates to the Black and White Preview. I gotta say that as much as i tried to like it, Im just not a fan of the Black and White.
I cant seem to get good looking pictures specially in dark or low light areas. where I cant see what Im shooting.
I tried Looking at the Settings and those were only for flash/contrast/Gps/zoom.
Switching the Camera Apk from the one in EC01 Rom, as well as an ASOP one but that did not thing, well it actually just removed the camera link from the launcher and App drawer
Once again this is a Personal Preference Issue/Question, that I Figured I'd Bring up, just in case anyone felt the Same way...
Its Not meant to Bang On Anyone Related to this Awesome project
Thanks in Advance.
I'm right there with you, and with all the hope everyone has in JT, I'm sure he'll fix that as well as the camcorder issue. What I never understood (Unless I overlooked it completely), was the camera didn't have a 5MP camera option, correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, I hope Jt will get them fixed soon enough as well.
In regards to the 5MP you are correct, i didn't see an option either, which means its already set to 5, or its lower, which would explain why sometimes the pictures come out extra grainy.
Now that EDO1 came out, hopefully there some good stuff in there so that we finally see a Full CM7. But only time will tell
Hi, Apologise in advanced for a rant but, surely I cant be the only person having issues with this phone? I have black version, in UK with EE. I decided to not get the iPhone XS MAX for this, last year I had the iPhone x it was super fast and efficient. But so far ive had this device 48 hours and im guttered i bought it so far. Im having a lot of issues with fps drops, if I have apps open it goes slow, for example Pokemon go, I find just spinning the ball starts making it lag, compared to my girlfriends s8 and my old iphone, its just constantly feeling unsmooth and dropping frames.
Sometimes the keyboard lags if I have a few apps open, with the specs inside im unsure how it can be failing this bad and lagging for me. Im actually close to sending this back to EE within 14 days, if this doesnt get fixed I cant stick with this for 2 years...
Ive seen a few people talking about performance mode within battery settings but I dont see this, I also dont understand why when im on the phone, notifications arent popping up sometimes, I also have this stupid notification that I cant get rid off, about showing notifications on screen or something.
At the moment, not having a good time at all, is anyone else feeling the same? my version is EMUI 9.0.0.108(C432E10R1P16)
I just dont uderstand how a phone for this cost with the great specs it has can be failing for me so much when multitasking. Especially when watching everyones YouTube videos before launch its running perfectly smooth... I just dont understand it. Maybe its my device? Maybe its just because im used to quick and effecient iphone/samsung devices and this is lacking
Anyone else having issues?
EDIT: I don't understand why, but since making this post, I've had absolutely. No issues with the device, its ran super smooth exactly as it should. In my opinion, pokemon go has ran perfectly. I love this phone, I don't want rid of it and it has so much potential, but I need this performance consistently, not just sporadic where its good for a few hours then suddenly bad again, I've since learned I'm stuck on update 108 apparently there's already a new one out but not with EE yet, maybe they've fixed some. Issues, I couldn't find a change log anywhere
Don't see any of this. I am used to using iPhone (although not X) for work and 20 pro is so much faster
I wish it would be understood that software must settle after first setup for a few days 3-4 avg. Same goes for after a reset
You saying that is slower than S8 is VERY worrying as that phone to me was considerably slower than S9+ or Note 9 and both S9+ and Note 9 were still pretty slow and laggy for me (and a lot of dropping frames) I was expecting an upgrade in terms of speed from Note 9 to Mate 20 Pro :/. Fastest phone I've used is Oneplus 6 and it was waaay faster and smoother than Note 9.
I'll let you know next week how mine is. Did you by any chance do a clean set up (installing and configuring everything from scratch) or did you use the app/feature to clone everything from previous phone?
Same thing here
Occasional keyboard lags, touch latency lag, that annoying notification
Apart from this it's a very good phone
I really hope we can achieve root at some point soon, as now I've got this all setup, I'm starting to miss the additional features root offers....
Clean install, it's weird and this probably sounds so dumb, but when I'm outdoors on pokemon go it feels choppy compared to indoors... However maybe it's not the phone and its an issue with pokemon go. Pubg ran fine, bare in mind you can only. Use low graphics until a later update haha.
I also heard a few people saying that for some reason over a few days it gets better so see what happens
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Hi, Apologise in advanced for a rant but, surely I cant be the only person having issues with this phone? I have black version, in UK with EE. I decided to not get the iPhone XS MAX for this, last year I had the iPhone x it was super fast and efficient. But so far ive had this device 48 hours and im guttered i bought it so far. Im having a lot of issues with fps drops, if I have apps open it goes slow, for example Pokemon go, I find just spinning the ball starts making it lag, compared to my girlfriends s8 and my old iphone, its just constantly feeling unsmooth and dropping frames.
Sometimes the keyboard lags if I have a few apps open, with the specs inside im unsure how it can be failing this bad and lagging for me. Im actually close to sending this back to EE within 14 days, if this doesnt get fixed I cant stick with this for 2 years...
Ive seen a few people talking about performance mode within battery settings but I dont see this, I also dont understand why when im on the phone, notifications arent popping up sometimes, I also have this stupid notification that I cant get rid off, about showing notifications on screen or something.
At the moment, not having a good time at all, is anyone else feeling the same? my version is EMUI 9.0.0.108(C432E10R1P16)
I just dont uderstand how a phone for this cost with the great specs it has can be failing for me so much when multitasking. Especially when watching everyones YouTube videos before launch its running perfectly smooth... I just dont understand it. Maybe its my device? Maybe its just because im used to quick and effecient iphone/samsung devices and this is lacking
Anyone else having issues?
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Yes I'm finding lots of issues with software too. Which is a shame because I love everything else. I'm not finding too much lag but I have notice when YouTube is in PIP things do lag.
The camera app switching between wide and telephoto lens is very laggy and hangs... It even sometimes hangs when taking a picture
3rd party launchers are pretty much a no go, there either crash and don't work at all or work with some bugs.
I sometimes get notifications for WhatsApp etc and where the body of the message is suppose to be is blank
I'm finding apps are being closed a lot and not utilising the ram.
So your not the only one, the software has a lot of jank.
Apparently the 108 build isn't the latest and theres a 202 build that's suppose to be the official release version and fixes things. Im going to wait and see if this drops in the next few days and see if it sorts it out
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Clean install, it's weird and this probably sounds so dumb, but when I'm outdoors on pokemon go it feels choppy compared to indoors... However maybe it's not the phone and its an issue with pokemon go. Pubg ran fine, bare in mind you can only. Use low graphics until a later update haha.
I also heard a few people saying that for some reason over a few days it gets better so see what happens
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Theres a good chance pokeman hasn't been optimised for emui 9 or the kirin 980 yet
I also got from EE yesterday and am slightly under whelmed. However i haven't had any keyboard lag and the phone for the most part has been fast. The facial recognition had however been hit or miss, the 4k video is abysmal and FHD isn't too great either. My previous htc u12 seems to have a much better camera for both photo and video although the Huawei had more options. The most annoying thing so far is the slide down on home screen that brings up the search bar. Rules out any scrollable widget (Google schedule or bookmarks) s it keeps going to the search function while scrolling. Going to test the camera properly at a gig in the week alongside U12. If it isn't better, it's going back I'm sorry to say. It does charge very quickly though.
The charging is fantastic, super fast... The weird thing I done a benchmark with antutu it got the top device for benchmark literally number 1. So no. Doubt the power is within the phone it just has to be the software. Again sounds dumb but since doing the benchmark the phones been perfect. Very. Smooth no. Issues it's just so hit and miss sometimes it's perfect, other times slightly slow. I noticed with the wide angle camera it. Lags when changing too
Just switched from my old S8 and I'm absolutely stunned with sleek performance of M8 20 Pro. Got my black mob from ee. However once updated I've switched Nova on and removed some unused apps. As previously said I'd performed factory reset and check all once again.
Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
I had the P20 Pro and loved the hardware but hated the software. Lots of small bugs and annoyances everywhere so after some months I could not stand it anymore. Very tempted by the Mate 20 Pro but am afraid I will hate the software once again
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Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
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Sorry but it's not whining like children. The software should be polished and work flawless just like the hardware. There's will be updates but no guarantee the bugs will be fixed
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Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
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with EE as I opened a new contract I only have 14 days, im hoping it turns out well im loving it, its just the issues I mentioned above, its weird, because sometimes its amazing, since I done a stress test on an app and a benchmark its been performing better, its weird.
Sometimes its the best phone ive had, sometimes it just lags and feels like the worst.
I would love some updates before 14 days to reassure me as I do like this phone. I was more interested if others have the same issue
Same boat here pal love the phone but the software is a let down also a lot of stuff missing like AI cinema scan thing.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Sorry but it's not whining like children. The software should be polished and work flawless just like the hardware. There's will be updates but no guarantee the bugs will be fixed
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I know. It should. In that magic place where unicorns taste like rainbows.
But we live in reality, where no phone comes up without bugs. For example, name me a phone that came out this fall and didn't need a patch after release to fix bugs?
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I know. It should. In that magic place where unicorns taste like rainbows.
But we live in reality, where no phone comes up without bugs. For example, name me a phone that came out this fall and didn't need a patch after release to fix bugs?
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Yes we also live in a reality where some people don't want to spend £1000 on a product that doesn't work properly, and lose the opportunity to either get money back or try something else on the off chance it might be fixed in the future.
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Same boat here pal love the phone but the software is a let down also a lot of stuff missing like AI cinema scan thing.
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Have to agree the phone is great but the missing software features (ai cinema, 3d scanning) are annoying. Neither are essential but when a product is launched as including them and a fair chunk of the launch event was devoted to showing how they work id at least expect them to be present!
I've been using the phone for 24 hours and my feelings are mixed. I love the design and size of the device, battery is amazing but the software seems like prerelease.
I've had random sound pops when the phone is on silent, can't use launchers properly with the gestures (stock launcher is terrible), no notification settings for gmail so I can't see how many unread emails I have, no thought on how notifications will show with the notch and zero customisation of the status bar to make more space, it's like the notch has wiped out a feature of android displaying your notifications, no video effects, seems bad to me that review units had it to sell the phone but its not on retail units. I know updates will come but they have to be checked by the carrier which could take a while. At this point I'm not sure whether to stick with it or admit the phone isn't for me.
Right now I'm struggling really hard to find a new phone I want, and realistically none meet my standards due to low battery, or bad camera specs and software support. However I keep finding myself wanting the Xperia line of phones, and I strangely really want to get this phone but I hear and know of many cons already. Heating issues, and in a year or two it's going to lose software support right?
However would rooting it, or people who have rooted the phone solve the issues regarding the phone themselves? Like was the os optimized better for thermals, or is there a good line of custom roms that can securely update the phone that way instead? Was it worth it to go through the hassle, or is bricking a strong issue and unable to be dealt with.
Cuz honestly I just want a decent phone of 5000MAH, great camera, and good dual speakers tbh. It'd be cool if it'd come with a headphone jack too, and if micro sd was an option but honestly I only use about 80gb of storage anyway.
101% i love my with root
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101% i love my with root
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Mind telling me what you did that fixed the stock flaws? I got my heart set on one of the Xperia phones lol. Tje 1V looks amazing but I wanna wait for the 5V at the same time too lol
5v wont be relased until september or maybe later.. they tend to follow yearly schedule
and if u like the notification LED better hurry caus i red some information about its no longer at the X1 V
and if this happens 8 bet same will happen at the X5 V
I haven't needed to fix any flaws really, but still rooted to remove bloat, block ads, access app data, improve privacy etc.
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I haven't needed to fix any flaws really,crooted to remove bloat, block ads, access app data, improve privacy etc.
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ShatteredSpider exactly this! I've done all that and tbh so far (4 months), have not an issue to shout about. Perhaps its by removing the bloat, thoough very little compared to some phones, having a rooted ad-blocker makes my phone run flawlessly so far without no crazy heat issues. Of course there have been some official updates, mostly security but they may have tinkered around with the initial heating issue too. Battery life is great, magisk+modules run perfectly and banking apps work fine too. So far, my best and easiest rooted phone experience so far with some great cameras/software, plus I've got Gcam/revanced running too as a plus. New phone sensor does sound great, not sure I need to jump to it, especially as gcam night images work pretty well for me and even for general snappy images.
@davestuarts Was there anything root-related that you had to do to get GCam working properly? I had a hard time with it initially though it did take pictures and then it stopped working entirely, possibly due to a system update.
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@davestuarts Was there anything root-related that you had to do to get GCam working properly? I had a hard time with it initially though it did take pictures and then it stopped working entirely, possibly due to a system update.
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I don't think Gcam technically requires root, there's nothing I can remember that suggests it, as I remember testing Gcam when I first had the phone and was untouche/not rooted.
I've had Gcam 8.1 installed since (with a profile) and it's been running fine, mostly photos and occasionally videos.
I've updated the rom about three times, though manually as it's rooted, but Gcam continues to work. I've tested other versions of Gcam but they either didn't work or crashed. That's all I can say. Any further questions, I'll try and answer if I know.
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I don't think Gcam technically requires root, there's nothing I can remember that suggests it, as I remember testing Gcam when I first had the phone and was untouche/not rooted.
I've had Gcam 8.1 installed since (with a profile) and it's been running fine, mostly photos and occasionally videos.
I've updated the rom about three times, though manually as it's rooted, but Gcam continues to work. I've tested other versions of Gcam but they either didn't work or crashed. That's all I can say. Any further questions, I'll try and answer if I know.
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Oooo please send what kind of photos you take on the phone, i wanna see the quality!! To me it seems like the perfect mid tier phone, but I wanted to see the stock photos, pro photos and possible gcam but haven't reliably seen results only a few reviews. I also wanna try to work it into being a professional webcam when I'm home for motion tracking but afraid of bad quality?