hello . i have an lumia 710 and somebody wants to change his hd2 for my phone. is it worth?
Depends of what you want.
U can do a lot with the HD2 (flash android/WP7...), but he is a bit outdated now.
i think i would keep the 710.
u can always sell it and buy a better equipment
Andrei221 said:
hello . i have an lumia 710 and somebody wants to change his hd2 for my phone. is it worth?
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I have both but and I also prefer the Lumia 710, but the HD2 is, in my opinion, the best phone ever made, if you like to try a lot of different roms on your phone you should go for the hd2, it supports wm 6.1, wm 6.5, wp7, wp7.1, wp7.5, wp7.8 android, ubuntu, meego etc ... and they are also working on porting wp8.
Hmmm, I'm not making it very easy for you...
Succes,
And what are the pros and cons ? I would like the htc for the screen and android. Wp became too limited for me. The only thing that keeps me from not doing it is the warrranty. The hd2 doesn t have one.
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Hi,
i am interested in buying an Lumia 800 but i do not have any knowledge or experience with windows phone. I just want to try this system and the Nokia devices have a very good navigation software and a good camera. How big is the chance that a WP8 Rom will come to the Lumia 800?
Normally i use a Galaxy S3 and just want to buy a second device to play around and test somthing new. So please excuse my noob question. The L800 will cost around 200€ without a contract and i think its a nice alternative to my Samsung.
thanks a lot
lumia
its not going to happen the most you will get is wp 7.8 only the new line of lumias will have w8
if i were you buy the 820 or 920
rob:good:
I would like to buy them but they are too expensive just for testing and playing around. Is it impossible because of the hardware specifications or that there will be no WP8 Source Code available which can be customized with drivers etc. ?
Not possible mate..though u can have a word around here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966327
with the devs
Hi,
Even if someone ports a WP8 for a current WP7 device he/she would have to disable all the specific WP8 functionalities which requires higher hardware specification (Dual core CPU and all) so it would be kind of a 7.8 with very marginal improvements.
So I dont think there would be much of a gain in trying to port in WP8 to 800
just my 2 cents and I can be completely wrong
Hee!,
I am an engeneering student and I do not think it is already fair to say porting WP8 will be posible, or not. It is true that the hardware of our current Windows Phone device doesnt reach the Microsoft hardware minimum for windows 8 device. Although this is their minimum, wich not only concludes the ´needings of the system´ but also ´marketings minimums´, for example: who would upgrade to a WP8 device if it is slower?
So not having the minimum hardware requirment doesnt really mean it is imposible to run WP8. Although it requirs a lot of porting and I am not sure if somebody will succees doing it.
Also one last point to mention, as you can find on the forum you can not update all Lumia 800 devices, depends on your bootloader, wich you cant know when you buy it on Ebay.
Does anybody know when Lumia 800 will get an official WP7.8 update? And will it be available in Europe?
they say , in the mittle of December...
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Normally i use a Galaxy S3 and just want to buy a second device to play around and test somthing new
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Lumia phones are mostly phones as some testing tweaking devices. So i'm wondering, what you expect, as long as 800 is flashable only with qualcomm bootloader. New ones have only Dload, which is not hacked yet. Lumias are not like androids - completly different ROMs, patches, flashable apps,... Lumias are great, fast, reliable phones. Not for messing around.
i think you will try lumia920 or lumia820/822,lumia800 only have wp7.8
Hi all, just got myself a sexy new lumia 800, but I feel like a noob coming from android, I'm used to flashing roms and major customization, now in on windows phone i don't know what there is to do lol, so could someone help me out? Id like to learn it
Cheers in advance
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Hi all, just got myself a sexy new lumia 800, but I feel like a noob coming from android, I'm used to flashing roms and major customization, now in on windows phone i don't know what there is to do lol, so could someone help me out? Id like to learn it
Cheers in advance
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welcome to the club.im in the exact same position
From what i have learned so far
there is roms to download,but not a rom that completly changes the phone. The windows platform is way more locked up than the android os, so overclocking and all this stuff is not possible. I anderstand that the windows platform is so well polished that its not nessesary to do something with it. ive just got my 800 too, and also feel like an completly noob coming from android.Good luck!
I'm new to lumia 800 too been running it for nearly a month and impressed. Started with iPhone,Android now Windows not been disappointed so far.
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I'm new to lumia 800 too been running it for nearly a month and impressed. Started with iPhone,Android now Windows not been disappointed so far.
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good to hear! think ill be satisfied as well. i dont care about the best camera,or biggest screen,or the most apps.. i use the phone mostly for browsing and sometimes games. Ive seen test where the lumia 800 have been as fast as the iphone 4s, and sometimes slower,and sometimes faster. thats enough for me I also like thath even tho the phone doesent always load the pages on the browser fastest all the time,it shows contents first and is readable first i cant wait to get the 920 later. bet the browser there is very fast
Wait a few weeks, maybe just a few days, and you'll get an update to WP 7.8.
Hello people..welcome to WP! B)
Lumia 800 with HW rev 2.3 (settings>about , HW revision number) can be fully unlocked with root access , if you have one..ill help you unlock
Lumia 800 with HW rev 2.4 cannot be rooted , but there is another way to unlock it for temp you , you can PM me ill let you know since the tuto is not allowed here on XDA.
cheers
I still can't believe it myself too ...
But apparently DFT is managing to port WP8 on HD2 :
http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
http://www.wpcentral.com/against-all-odds-windows-phone-8-has-been-hacked-htc-hd2
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/windows_phone_8_ported_to_the_htc_hd2-11-29-12
"Hopefully more details will be coming out soon with an actual release because as you have probably figured out, if the HD2 can run Windows Phone 8, there might be a chance for Windows Phone 7 devices too."
I guess it is right to ask ourself such a question indeed.
I don't think HD2 has something Titan doesn't have.
Surely it would be interesting to understand what DFT really has really done.
In the meanwhile I'd like to know what our beloved Titan cookers think about this.
i hope so that windows phone 8 will port to HTC titan
Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
I don´t think, that port to Titan never be. Titan have better HW than HD2. You´ll see, port for Titan will be Now, we only waiting ...
Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
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Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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Titan isnt first series device WP, Titan and Radar are second series. First series are HD7, Omnia etc...
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
HTC Titan
HTC Radar
First Windows Phone 7.0
HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy
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sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
HTC Titan
HTC Radar
First Windows Phone 7.0
HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy
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Yes, yes, you have right ... I mean, that except faster CPU is Titan the same device as hd7, tropy etc ......... I ´m wrong wrote it. My mystake.
Moved to General as there is nothing for the Titan at this point.
Thank you,
mf2112
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Anyway, the point is the HD2 has drivers that can be worked with and a team of expert that specialize in it.
Titan has neither. Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
I found the photo of the HD2 a bit interesting; one the build number's last few digits were blacked out and did all the zeroes escape everybody? What I find curious is the Titan I is flashable, as of this typing the Titan II is not. I own both the HD2 and Titan and the Titan runs 7.8 much better than the HD2 though I have nothing but sincere admiration for the HD2; an incredible piece of hardware despite it's lack of memory.
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Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
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Do you have any proof of what you are saying ?
Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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I have to agree. I stopped flashing my smart phones for quite some time and just recently picked it up. The HD2 is that device we all wish every other device since could do. If there is to be a WP8 port, that is the device that will garner the most attention. Currently as of this typing, I have the NexusHD2 on that device. It isn't Samsung's mini-beast, the Galaxy S3 nor is it enabled with that beautiful touch screen, but the HD2 is a stud among steers. The day my HD2 is put to rest, it will be buried with honors.
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Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
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Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
Pneumo said:
Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
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Patience, patience, patience. There is rumor there is a HTC Titan III, the HTC Zenith in the pipeline. I know there are many who have this philosophy that they must get their hands on the latest and state of the art devices. I don't doubt that Windows Phone 7 should have been what we now know is Windows Phone 8. There's nothing more irritating than the inability to not run programs like Skype as they do on Android and an overall general attitude that appears contrary to customer loyalty 101. Today (as of this typing) we do not know if the SPLs on the HTC 8X, Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 and future unknown devices in the pipeline will be akin to the HTC Titan II (Radiant) which remains unlockable. It is unlikely there will never be another device like the HD2 and for me, that is what is wrong with carriers and Microsoft in regards to the devices they sell within the United States and Canada; it is internationally how different and many of us wish we had their device hardware.
I'm a former android developer away from XDA, and recently switched to WP7.5 (now WP7.8) on the lumia 800. I've looked around, and the biggest difference between WP8 and WP7.5 phones seems to be the processors...
I've done a quick comparrison and the closest match seems to be the Lumia 820 (correct me if i'm wrong) now here's the question: can the lumia 820 rom be downloaded in such a way that it can be edited freely like the android rom, if so, i'm happy to play with it to see if i can get it working. but i don't want to lash out a couple of ton on a phone if it's not going to even let me grab the rom.
What about kernel?
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What about kernel?
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aah, good point... windows isn't modular! doh!
Just wondering if this is even possible.
Would be amazing.
no... not possible... and no chance for any other OS to put on WP devices.... first, bootloader not allow this and most important hardware incompatibility, drivers not working... Lumia 920 is great device with excellent software and no need to be "cripple" with other OS...
dxdy !! men your tutorials on HTC HD2 came handy to me lots of times !!! Thanks for that !
But don't tell me it's not sad that Meego has been left behind. It was an amazing OS! I'll buy a N9 when I have the money to do so.