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Guys, theres a movement in the community to get rid of this site which sells access to pirated paid apps. Now, this isnt to promote the site, this is to get rid of it. Please go here and sign the petition. All the information is there. Support app developers who work hard to make our phones better by helping to get rid of these pirates.
http://bit.ly/bkKwaZ
Support your community!
Also, if you follow this link: http://twitter.com/Mini_Lee/status/20682622042 it will take you to the tweet i put out with the petition link directly in it. So if you're one of those people with thousands of followers on twitter, send it out!
Done, and tweeting it.
Signed - thank you to whoever started this petition!
Been following this on Twitter today. Retweeted protests, and just signed this. I'll be honest, I pirate a lot of stuff, but I wouldn't pirate from a hard working Android dev. If pirating Android apps grew, devs might be less inclined to develop good apps for Android.
OP updated with link to RT'able tweet link.
Kusotare, what do you intend to do with the results of the petition?
I checked, their domain is registered through GoDaddy and hidden by DomainsByProxy. I sent an e-mail to DomainsByProxy to see whether they actually respond to information about illegal activity. It has been my experience that such complaints to GoDaddy will go unanswered but e-mail is cheap so I hit them up too.
But in all honesty, this will be a minor hiccup, if it gets them taken down at all. The overall IP block is owned by Worldstream out of the Netherlands (according to the RIPE branch of IANA), although some tools report the actual location as Portugal. If you run a reverse IP lookup (try a good one like YouGetSignal), the web server at the same IP is also host to a bunch of Iranian spam and piracy blogs under the vatanblog.com domain, so my guess is whomever owns the server (which isn't going to be the same as those running the network where the IP block is managed) isn't going to be too worried about the results of a petition.
But I suppose it can't hurt to hit up Worldstream, so I've e-mailed them as well.
P.S. Phromik, speaking as a software developer who has been victimized by piracy, you're a hypocritical tool.
^ really no need for that last part, though I understand why you would say it.
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^ really no need for that last part, though I understand why you would say it.
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Really no need for him to roll in here and brag about his piracy, is there?
Fighting piracy is and will always be a losing battle, but when people are actually out there profiting from other people's hard work something needs to be done.
Signed and tweeted and facebooked. I will also follow suit and send emails to godaddy and Domainsbyproxy.
Except he's not bragging... he's being honest.
srqt said:
Fighting piracy is and will always be a losing battle, but when people are actually out there profiting from other people's hard work something needs to be done.
Signed and tweeted and facebooked. I will also follow suit and send emails to godaddy and Domainsbyproxy.
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GoDaddy are the domain registrant. The actual website is hosted on a dedicated server provided by worldstream.nl so you want to be contacting [email protected] as well as the Dutch anti-piracy outfit BREIN at [email protected]
It's interesting to note that the same dedicated server is being used to host several other warez sites including some pornography forums. I'm pretty sure neither the server provider or BREIN would be happy about these.
It's interesting to note that within the last 12 hours androidplayground has been taken offline. However I suspect this was done by the owner rather than any takedown notice. He has already set his twitter account to private and one of the last tweets he sent was about having a new server ready.
To Bad google isn't jumping on this. I mean you see his lame comment on nearly every app that comes out in the market.
What confuses me is why would somebody send him money to become a member knowing he/she is a thief in the first place.
The results of the petition will be sent to the domain registrar, the host and paypal in a three way attack. If all goes well, they'll lose their domain, hosting and ability to charge people through paypal simultaneously. I have already emailed all three of the companies to let them know about the petition.
So yes, while it may be a losing battle in the long run to fight piracy, at least we can do what we can. Signing a petition or firing off an email takes the same amount of time it does to write a post here, so why not help out?
Response from Worldstream:
Hi,
The website has been taken down earlier today.
Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
Dirk Vromans
Technical Engineer
Worldstream C.V.
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Although from one of the earlier posts it sounds like the site owner was already planning to move it anyway -- which is what I was getting at earlier. The best you can hope for is to just go chasing him around endlessly.
I saw the same crap over and over in the Palm Treo software world...
The new licensing system might help. =]
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...If pirating Android apps grew, devs might be less inclined to develop good apps for Android.
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Whatever....
Without defending what I consider to be a low-life, who spams every review on the Market, most pirates wouldn't really buy most products they steal, just as most people don't normally pirate stuff they genuinely want and like.
There are a ton of pirate sources for the iPhone, yet good developers do pretty well in the App store.
The only developers whining are the ones who have a crappy product and blame the nebulous evil of "piracy" for their lack of success.
This is outrageous!! Piracy should be free.
I mean that completely tongue-in-cheek, as I spend a LOT of money on android software. I admit I don't hate piracy in general, as a sort of try-before-you-buy system, but charging money for stolen goods is evil. These people are scum.
Former AndroidPlayground.net user
I used to use this site because I just assumed that they had an agreement with the developers. I couldn't even imagine the audacity it would take to charge people for pirated software.
One thing I do wonder, why do Android apps cost more than iPhone apps? This might be part of the reason people feel like they are being ripped off by the android developers and say, "screw you then".
NOT trying to justify it, but it is something to consider.
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One thing I do wonder, why do Android apps cost more than iPhone apps? This might be part of the reason people feel like they are being ripped off by the android developers and say, "screw you then".
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I'm just guessing, but so far all data indicates that iPhone users seem to be significantly more willing to pay for apps. I'm hoping this changes as the Android becomes more mainstream.
I'll try to cut things short and get to the point.
Google has recently announced that it is going to change its privacy policy . The new privacy policy allows Google to enhance its products by collecting data. Data that is being collected. That data is transferred via Google products (Youtube, Gmail, Google Maps, etc.). For Google to be able to collect your data, you have to be logged in into one of its products and data collecting starts.
By signing off form its products, is transfer being disabled? If you use Google search engine, is data being collected via cookies and is it the same just as if you are signed in into some Google product? That way, by monitoring IP activity it can effectively collect data just as if you were signed in into Google prods.
It looks to me that no matter what, signed in or not, Google will get those data!
Can Google collect data from my Android phone even if I am not signed in into any Google product, but simply because I am using Android?
How is it possible that no one takes interest in this matter? This sounds serious to me and it does needs some attention, at least to be informed properly. Big corporation Google is taking away privacy, by building a behaving system for each Internet user.
How come this topic, not mine but in general, is being dropped down from everyone's sight?
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How is it possible that no one takes interest in this matter? This sounds serious to me and it does needs some attention, at least to be informed properly. Big corporation Google is taking away privacy, by building a behaving system for each Internet user.
How come this topic, not mine but in general, is being dropped down from everyone's sight?
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Because its been discussed in a few threads.
And possibly because google are simply collecting all they know about you in one place.
Dave
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As long as you are using a google product, they will most surtainly be collecting data from you.
It won't matter if you are logged in or not.
It's a sad reality, but if you want privacy, don't use google products. Or facebook for that matter.
Personally i would love a OS that has privacy in mind. But i fear such a thing is close to impossible these days.
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People made a huge stink over Carrier IQ but when its Google its not a big deal. collection of personal information sucks-period. What makes anyone think that almighty Google cant be hacked by some sort of group like Anonymous? Although I see no reason at the moment for them to do it, I dont want to say its not possible. Really Google needs to be limited on what they have access too just like anybody. I love the Android platform and many of Googles products, but I am willing to pay a little to keep my information safe. Remember if you are not paying for it, you are not the customer, you are the product being sold.
Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
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- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
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Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
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I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
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You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers
Xiaomi Security issues. Xiaomi firmware has multiple backdoors So I've basically got myself in this sh*t because lack of care.. Until it pop'd and hit the highlights.
And now straight to the point. It doesn't f*ckin matters if you had a fw or not. As the backdoors are embedded in ROOT system processes.
And those where obviously white-listed as i didn't think of a nasty Chinese guy sitting in it calling back home. My friend who got the same phone found the article as i was having my vacation for a bit, so when i found out i did a bit a research of course on my device. After finding all this i e-mail'd him it and he posted it on the Xiaomi European forums. Guess what happened, it got deleted. So they know damn good what they're doing.
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When you purchase Xiaomi products or services, we’ll collect relevant personal information, including but not limited: delivery information, bank account, credit card information, bill address, credit check and other financial information, contact or communication records.
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Music app(?) connects to:
202.173.255.152
2012-12-01 lrc.aspxp.net
2012-12-01 lrc.feiyes.net
2012-12-01 w.w.w.616hk.com
2012-12-01 w.w.w.hk238.com
2012-12-01 w.w.w.lrc123.com
123.125.114.145
2013-11-27 tinglog.baidu.com
1/53 2014-07-02 12:51:01 hxxp://tinglog.baidu.com
Latest detected files that communicate with this IP address
Latest files submitted to VirusTotal that are detected by one or more antivirus solutions and communicate with the IP address provided when executed in a sandboxed environment.
3/43 2014-07-08 07:39:24 facb146de47229b56bdc4481ce22fb5ec9e702dfbd7e70e82e 4e4316ac1e7cbd
47/51 2014-04-28 09:25:27 091457f59fc87f5ca230c6d955407303fb5f5ba364508401a7 564fb32d9a24fa
24/47 2014-01-08 08:19:43 3cf0a98570e522af692cb5f19b43085c706aa7d2f63d05469b 6ac8db5c20cdcd
21/48 2013-12-02 15:15:45 7e34cb88fc82b69322f7935157922cdb17cb6c69d868a88946 8e297257ee9072
19/48 2013-12-01 20:02:32 bce4bd44d3373b2670a7d68e058c7ce0fa510912275d452d36 3777f640aa4c70
Latest URLs hosted in this IP address detected by at least one URL scanner or malicious URL dataset.
1/53 2014-07-02 12:47:57 hxxp://dev.baidu.com/
Android-system ANT HAL Service(Framework_ext.apk/jar) connect to:
42.62.48.207
VirusTotal's passive DNS only stores address records. The following domains resolved to the given IP address.
2014-04-28 app.migc.wali.com
2014-07-12 app.migc.xiaomi.com
2014-05-30 gamevip.wali.com
2014-05-30 log.wlimg.cn
2014-04-21 mitunes.game.xiaomi.com
2014-04-30 oss.wali.com
2014-05-17 p.tongji.wali.com
2014-07-13 policy.app.xiaomi.com
Latest detected URLs
Latest URLs hosted in this IP address detected by at least one URL scanner or malicious URL dataset.
1/58 2014-08-13 07:10:49 hxxp://policy.app.xiaomi.com/cms/interface/v1/checkpackages.php
1/58 2014-08-10 00:46:35 hxxp://policy.app.xiaomi.com/
1/53 2014-07-02 12:49:59 hxxtp://oss.wali.com
Messages(Mms.apk) connect to (it literary calls back home)
54.179.146.166
2014-08-12 api.account.xiaomi.com
2014-07-26 w.w.w.asani.com.pk
What it does? It sends phone numbers you call to, send messages to, add etc to a Resin/4.0.13 java application running on a nginx webserver to collect data. Checkpackages, embedded system process/app posts all installed apps to a Tengine a/k/a nginx webserver cms.
URL: hxxtp://api.account.xiaomi.com:81/pass/v3
Server: sgpaws-ac-web01.mias
Software: Tengine/2.0.1 | Resin/4.0.13
URL: hxxp://policy.app.xiaomi.com:8080/cms/interface/v1/
Server: lg-g-com-ngx02.bj
Software: Tengine | Resin
Bottom line
They don't give a single damn about your data.. All sent in plain text.
For messages APK (Mms.apk)
I don't believe it needs those permissions for normal functionalities, this is only for the extra feature let's call it bug.
android.permission.SEND_SMS_NO_CONFIRMATION
android.permission.GET_ACCOUNTS
android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE
android.permission.CHANGE_NETWORK_STATE
android.permission.INTERNET
miui.permission.SHELL
android.permission.GET_TASKS
android.permission.CAMERA
Some code ... i also attached java classes and smali dalvik jvm bytecode..
Code:
RELATED
http://apkscan.nviso.be/report/show/...0b623da712918f
http://lists.clean-mx.com/pipermail/...14/072661.html
OTHER SOURCES
http://www.newmobilelife.com/2014/08...-china-server/
http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?p=14730859
Main post and more info. All credits go to the OP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gene...oords-t2847069
zelendel said:
Xiaomi Security issues. [/URL]
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dude that is sooo old cheese already. you really seem to have a personal problem with xiaomi?
go read a bit:
http://www.cnet.com/news/xiaomi-makes-cloud-messaging-opt-in-amid-privacy-concerns/
http://www.androidcentral.com/hugo-barra-responds-xiaomi-privacy-concerns
Xiaomi has added encryption to the communication in an updated firmware, and the cloud service is now opt-in.
while i will say that unencrypted transfer is uncool, most of the stuff transferred (or actually all) has to do with their cloud service.
Apple & Google are doing the same stuff, i bet you Samsung does also.
so what is the big deal here? that it was not encrypted? or that it sends something in the first place?
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dude that is sooo old cheese already. you really seem to have a personal problem with xiaomi?
go read a bit:
http://www.cnet.com/news/xiaomi-makes-cloud-messaging-opt-in-amid-privacy-concerns/
http://www.androidcentral.com/hugo-barra-responds-xiaomi-privacy-concerns
Xiaomi has added encryption to the communication in an updated firmware, and the cloud service is now opt-in.
while i will say that unencrypted transfer is uncool, most of the stuff transferred (or actually all) has to do with their cloud service.
Apple & Google are doing the same stuff, i bet you Samsung does also.
so what is the big deal here? that it was not encrypted? or that it sends something in the first place?
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First off do I have issues with them? Sure most here do but that is a whole other matter.
This was brought to attention by another user. Had you read the post you would have known that.
The fact that they record your bank account info is cause for further investigation.
I just posted it here for users to know and look into. In the end it doesn't matter to me as Ill never use their device or OS.
Ok I get it. No discussion will come of this. Apple is doing the same and that's all right since they are 'mericans. Totally cool.
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Ok I get it. No discussion will come of this. Apple is doing the same and that's all right since they are 'mericans. Totally cool.
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No it's not. If we were and iOS forum. Then we would be calling them out as well.
Same issue, blocked me in MiUi forum!
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No it's not. If we were and iOS forum. Then we would be calling them out as well.
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I had noticed the same security issues and data leaks by Xiaomi device (note is not just MiUi but whole system) and showed them proofs, even wrote to Hugo but just after seeing my proofs they blocked me in their forum. I do use MI3 but miss the resources they have in forum. Anyway, I am just using the device without DATA or firewall app if need DATA. Hope they had played fairly with users.
Problem is deeper than this. The users instantly start screaming any one who says this mobile has security leaks (e.g me) ad asks for proofs, once I post the proofs they dont accept it and raise as whole but they get their own way to download resources from MiUi forum. I am alone but I wont surrender.
For sure they'll upload ur info. For purpose.
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I had noticed the same security issues and data leaks by Xiaomi device (note is not just MiUi but whole system) and showed them proofs, even wrote to Hugo but just after seeing my proofs they blocked me in their forum. I do use MI3 but miss the resources they have in forum. Anyway, I am just using the device without DATA or firewall app if need DATA. Hope they had played fairly with users.
Problem is deeper than this. The users instantly start screaming any one who says this mobile has security leaks (e.g me) ad asks for proofs, once I post the proofs they dont accept it and raise as whole but they get their own way to download resources from MiUi forum. I am alone but I wont surrender.
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I don't think the phone is released in Europe yet? So if you have problem with the software,flash with your own OS build or use another phone. The government tried to push everyone using true identity in case there is any cyber crime happens. Plus, did CIA,NSA or any government agency tell you when they search through your personal data? I doubt.
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xiaohan said:
The government tried to push everyone using true identity in case there is any cyber crime happens.
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And you believe that?
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And you believe that?
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Hey,who case,I don't have porn on my phone ,nor any illegal stuff stored. If u don't have something don't want to be touched,keep it in physical format and never get connected.
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xiaohan said:
I don't think the phone is released in Europe yet? So if you have problem with the software,flash with your own OS build or use another phone. The government tried to push everyone using true identity in case there is any cyber crime happens. Plus, did CIA,NSA or any government agency tell you when they search through your personal data? I doubt.
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What? Brother I am from India. To clear my situation more My banker sends me a highly secured one time password through message each time I try to access their online services. Now this MI3 is leaking (have proofs) and redirecting SMS (with one access notification which is not clear enough) its a security breach and case of international cyber crime. But in India, politicians has nothing to do with such issues, officers have "more important" things to do and Banker said me to change my mobile. So such is the case when you are in not developed country. Here even if some gets killed then police comes after all has been settled down let alone a security breach. It just and just a very "minor" or not an issue at all.
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What? Brother I am from India. To clear my situation more My banker sends me a highly secured one time password through message each time I try to access their online services. Now this MI3 is leaking (have proofs) and redirecting SMS (with one access notification which is not clear enough) its a security breach and case of international cyber crime. But in India, politicians has nothing to do with such issues, officers have "more important" things to do and Banker said me to change my mobile. So such is the case when you are in not developed country. Here even if some gets killed then police comes after all has been settled down let alone a security breach. It just and just a very "minor" or not an issue at all.
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You know once you use a public service ,there is no privacy right? People can spy on you using your cellphone,not even a smart one and listend to whatever youare talking about next to your phone even it's off as long as the battery is not taken off. What does this mean to your bank's highly secured one off password for your online banking?
Just use another one if you are not happen with it. E.g. iPhone which slightly record your real time geo information since iOS7 update without telling the users and even theIR staff don't know anything about it.
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xiaohan said:
You know once you use a public service ,there is no privacy right? People can spy on you using your cellphone,not even a smart one and listend to whatever youare talking about next to your phone even it's off as long as the battery is not taken off. What does this mean to your bank's highly secured one off password for your online banking?
Just use another one if you are not happen with it. E.g. iPhone which slightly record your real time geo information since iOS7 update without telling the users and even theIR staff don't know anything about it.
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Have your heard of "boiling water and frog's" story? I already said we dont raise our voice against such crimes adjust ourselves saying "ohh very minor", "doesnt affect me much" or "others do it too". Just show me that Apple's product steals your SMS and I will agree with you, if you cant then either raise your voice with me or just get boiled like a frog in adjusting.
This is a technology forum, politics problem is not interested here I guess. Surely, sending sensitive data back to the server initially was suspicious,but the security issue has been patched,if you have a lot of security concern, don't use a smart phone.
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I use a Mi3 in India
Well if you're online chunks of your data is always going places you don't know. AFAIK, India too has a PRISM like setup and your calls, call logs & SMS are stored. No idea how much data is shared by companies. Seems like people believe that only in US & Europe you're data is used without your knowledge.
The US based companies came public on data collection thanks to Mr.Snowden only.
Last week a US court ordered Microsoft to disclose data in their servers in Europe.
If you're concerned about privacy don't use smartphones. Or don't use a phone at all. Safest way keep your privates stuff private. Don't save those nude pics on phone or cloud or anything connected. Use long complex passwords, encrypt.
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ramanvemman said:
I use a Mi3 in India
Well if you're online chunks of your data is always going places you don't know. AFAIK, India too has a PRISM like setup and your calls, call logs & SMS are stored. No idea how much data is shared by companies. Seems like people believe that only in US & Europe you're data is used without your knowledge.
The US based companies came public on data collection thanks to Mr.Snowden only.
Last week a US court ordered Microsoft to disclose data in their servers in Europe.
If you're concerned about privacy don't use smartphones. Or don't use a phone at all. Safest way keep your privates stuff private. Don't save those nude pics on phone or cloud or anything connected. Use long complex passwords, encrypt.
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It is known all countries do this. This issue is what these country the info goes to.
Hey,if you have problem, don't use it. Not posting any xiaomi product forums, I guess you don't own all the models you posted in the forum to.
I believe people come to here are not idiot. You mentioned the OS has issue you have concerns is enough, people make their own judgement and decisions.
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Been a national news for us android lovers here in Indonesia. Luckily enough, i never bought their products (quite popular here). OP, you sounds like you're really against Xiaomi, though. You ever been in something with them?
Xiaomi is an arrogant company. Until now they have not released the kernel for mi3 despite of Barra's commitment. All their forum threads so stupid like "give ideas and win bunny" "give suggestions and win a fcking phone". MIUI will never ever ever get stable. It follows iOS design principles. When I gave a negative feedback, I was banned from miui forum. Freakingly selfish mindset stupid copycat company.
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jothiprasad1984 said:
Xiaomi is an arrogant company. Until now they have not released the kernel for mi3 despite of Barra's commitment. All their forum threads so stupid like "give ideas and win bunny" "give suggestions and win a fcking phone". MIUI will never ever ever get stable. It follows iOS design principles. When I gave a negative feedback, I was banned from miui forum. Freakingly selfish mindset stupid copycat company.
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Kernel Source has been realeased today
https://github.com/mi3-dev/android_device_xiaomi_cancro
https://github.com/mi3-dev/android_device_xiaomi_msm8974-common
https://github.com/mi3-dev/proprietary_vendor_xiaomi
We have been through five phones -Samsung Galaxy, then Motorola, two internet providers two cell phone providers, made so many calls I have lost count. He uses Chromebook and a Motorola Droid phone. He has even hacked my old home phone, tv, you name it, he has tried to own it . Oh, I forgot-my home security and ring doorbells also. I can change an app permission and I can see him go right in and change it back. I am sure he lives close in the neighborhood How do I get rid of this horrible person?
He grays out permissions, default apps, etc., Which keeps me from being able to delete an app, or change someone being able to access in the background. He has confiscated our emails (Gmail), prevents us from sending or receiving ones he doesn't like. He uses email for email on the web, advertising, chat, and many other things. He listens to phone calls steals all photos, maps addresses to companies or people in contacts, uses maps for ?? Xxx an anyone help me, or at least tell me how to reverse graying out on apps? This has become unbearable! Thank you!
How do you know it's a he?
It's always the girl next door.
Lol! I cannot prove it, but the big gamers nextdoor moved in when this started happening. Their best friend is an experienced IT guy who only appears when I have gone in and changed things. In those days, new changes happen, such as Ring doorbells hacker, etc. Not blaming, but coincidence?
blackhawk said:
How do you know it's a he?
It's always the girl next door.
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Sorry. See reply in post.
Bro, I'm so sorry. My husband has been going through this VERY thing for the past year. They don't mess with mine. I just wanted to let you know even though I don't have any resolve for you, I hear you and know that it's not phony and we totally feel for you. Seriously, maybe you and my hubby can talk. I'm so sorry that you're going through it. Feel free to message me.
This sounds like a great fan fiction and will bookmark this to see how the story develops. Thank you for putting this in Moto G Power section right where it belongs!
Sounds like you might need to invest in a router with better security features.
Moosetears said:
This sounds like a great fan fiction and will bookmark this to see how the story develops. Thank you for putting this in Moto G Power section right where it belongs!
Sounds like you might need to invest in a router with better security features.
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Definitely not fiction. It is a nightmare and could REALLY use some advice!
gunnshot81488 said:
Bro, I'm so sorry. My husband has been going through this VERY thing for the past year. They don't mess with mine. I just wanted to let you know even though I don't have any resolve for you, I hear you and know that it's not phony and we totally feel for you. Seriously, maybe you and my hubby can talk. I'm so sorry that you're going through it. Feel free to message me.
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It has been a nightmare! They started with mine, and have now invaded my husband's phone also.
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It has been a nightmare! They started with mine, and have now invaded my husband's phone also.
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Why are you posting on XDA? If you are this convinced that someone has unauthorized access to your devices, you need to be talking to law enforcement. The best advice we can offer you is to change all your passwords immediately, enable 2 factor authentication, and if possible seek a restraining order. XDA is a smart device hacking and development community, not a private investigation service.
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Why are you posting on XDA? If you are this convinced that someone has unauthorized access to your devices, you need to be talking to law enforcement. The best advice we can offer you is to change all your passwords immediately, enable 2 factor authentication, and if possible seek a restraining order. XDA is a smart device hacking and development community, not a private investigation service.
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I didn't think you were a p.i. firm. Obviously, I am not tech savvy. A little kindness please? I simply want to know how to ungray grayed out app permissions. I have searched on my own and cannot find the answer. I have reported it to local police, state police, Motorola, Samsung, Verizon, Xfinity, metronet, on and on and on. No help from anyone. I don't have $2,500.00 to just put down a retainer for a p.i. I knew someone on this forum would know the answer I am searching for and might kindly tell me. Thank you.
Scammed said:
I didn't think you were a p.i. firm. Obviously, I am not tech savvy. A little kindness please? I simply want to know how to ungray grayed out app permissions. I have searched on my own and cannot find the answer. I have reported it to local police, state police, Motorola, Samsung, Verizon, Xfinity, metronet, on and on and on. No help from anyone. I don't have $2,500.00 to just put down a retainer for a p.i. I knew someone on this forum would know the answer I am searching for and might kindly tell me. Thank you.
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Well, it can be hard to distinguish the difference between reasonable concern over privacy violations vs unwarranted paranoia, and you aren't the only one who's come to XDA with this type of story. Most of your assumptions are likely mistaken and can be simply explained by the nature of Android itself.
Remote intrusion of mobile devices is actually pretty rare. The most common ways bad actors get ahold of sensitive user information are: phishing, user-approved permissions on questionable apps such as TikTok, and "connected" social media accounts, where users allow websites and apps access to their social media profiles, or use their social media as a login.
Regardless, to the technical point of the matter, grayed out app permissions are not the result of hacking or surreptitious malfeasance, but rather the nature of the "rules" inherent to Android - you can't remove system apps or disable system-controlled permissions without root.
If you still think you have reasons for concern, this is my only suggestion:
Change your phone number
Immediately change all relevant passwords - minimum 10 characters, a mix of upper case, lower case, numbers, and special characters, do not reuse them
Enable 2 factor authentication on all accounts, ensuring your 2nd factor is something that you and only you have access to
Once done, sign out all devices signed into those accounts
Perform a factory reset on your device; even better, reflash factory firmware. Keep bootloader locked.
Do not use questionable apps