I know Fitbit doesnt list the HTC One as an official device supported yet...but I would think it should work? Anyone successfully pair up their Fitbit Flex and sync to the HTC One?
I have the Fitbit One and unfortunately under device setting there is no bluetooth syncing option. Waiting for the update because all the pieces are there for it to work.
Their Customer Service was not too helpful. I tried to ask about this but the response made no sense whatsoever.
Hi Adam,
Thank you for your interest in Flex.
Flex is sold as a complete package in Slate and Black. You can purchase additional wristbands individually, or in 3 packs of teal, tangerine, and navy from the online store. These bands are available in a small or large size.
Please let us know if there is anything else you'd like to know about Flex; we're happy to answer your questions.
Sincerely,
Otto Rene and the Fitbit Team
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Hello,
My wife and I just purchased the Flex and also Purchased new phones. The HTC one and Samsung Galaxy S4. I was just wondering since I noticed they are not yet on the supported devices list if you would be able to provide an estimate of when they may be supported.
Thank you.
I actually sent an email to fitbit asking specifically, whether they support HTC one. They replied saying they don't support it as of now.
This is the reply I got............
Fitbit trackers use the Bluetooth 4.0 spec to sync with supported devices via the Bluetooth Low Energy feature.
Fitbit is the first connected device to offer both Bluetooth 4.0 syncing to select iOS and Android devices. Syncing is available on all iOS devices after the iPhone 4S. For Android, while many phones have a Bluetooth 4.0 chip, not all are able to be accessed by apps like Fitbit.
The devices that will sync directly with your Fitbit tracker via Bluetooth 4.0 are listed here: devices section url.
Fitbit is working closely with phone manufacturers to try to develop syncing capabilities for more phones. Please check fitbit.com/device frequently to see if your device has been added. Let us know if you have any other questions about the Fitbit app; we'll be glad to help.
Sincerely,
Jason and the Fitbit Team
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sharathc said:
I actually sent an email to fitbit asking specifically, whether they support HTC one. They replied saying they don't support it as of now.
This is the reply I got............
Fitbit trackers use the Bluetooth 4.0 spec to sync with supported devices via the Bluetooth Low Energy feature.
Fitbit is the first connected device to offer both Bluetooth 4.0 syncing to select iOS and Android devices. Syncing is available on all iOS devices after the iPhone 4S. For Android, while many phones have a Bluetooth 4.0 chip, not all are able to be accessed by apps like Fitbit.
The devices that will sync directly with your Fitbit tracker via Bluetooth 4.0 are listed here: devices section url.
Fitbit is working closely with phone manufacturers to try to develop syncing capabilities for more phones. Please check fitbit.com/device frequently to see if your device has been added. Let us know if you have any other questions about the Fitbit app; we'll be glad to help.
Sincerely,
Jason and the Fitbit Team
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All we can do is hope they go ahead with the HTC one's api..
It does support Bluetooth low energy
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/opensense-sdk/partner-apis/bluetooth-low-energy/
Yea, I'm crossing my fingers on this too.
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I already returned my Flex. Work gave us free Jawbone Up so I've switched over to it. Not wireless sync but can sync with my One. It also syncs with My fitness pal that i use.
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Same here
sharathc said:
I actually sent an email to fitbit asking specifically, whether they support HTC one. They replied saying they don't support it as of now.
This is the reply I got............
Fitbit trackers use the Bluetooth 4.0 spec to sync with supported devices via the Bluetooth Low Energy feature.
Fitbit is the first connected device to offer both Bluetooth 4.0 syncing to select iOS and Android devices. Syncing is available on all iOS devices after the iPhone 4S. For Android, while many phones have a Bluetooth 4.0 chip, not all are able to be accessed by apps like Fitbit.
The devices that will sync directly with your Fitbit tracker via Bluetooth 4.0 are listed here: devices section url.
Fitbit is working closely with phone manufacturers to try to develop syncing capabilities for more phones. Please check fitbit.com/device frequently to see if your device has been added. Let us know if you have any other questions about the Fitbit app; we'll be glad to help.
Sincerely,
Jason and the Fitbit Team
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That is the exact same response I got. I have just emailed them again because the wife and I upgraded from the Zip to the Flex because I thought it would work Via NFC which the HTC One also has but it is not working there either. I supposed one must have NFC and low energy bluetooth for either to work. Sad they only concentrate on Samsung and Apple.
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After weeks of research this is the one factor I missed which would have ultimately decided whether I went the flex of something else. Made the purchase today and then discovered this. F'ing hell. Been on the tidbit website and not once have I seen this.
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After weeks of research this is the one factor I missed which would have ultimately decided whether I went the flex of something else. Made the purchase today and then discovered this. F'ing hell. Been on the tidbit website and not once have I seen this.
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They have a page where they list devices that will sync:
http://www.fitbit.com/devices
I've had a fitbit one for about six months and and i previously used it with my Note 2 which would sync fine, now that i switched to the one it doesn't sync and i'm really annoyed by that. I'm hoping that since Google is implementing low energy profile for bluetooth in Android 2.3 they will add support for it fast then any phone with 2.3 will support bluetooth syncing out the box.
If you purchased directly from fitbit, you can return it within 45 days if not satisfied. That's what I did, I had a galaxy note 2 and it worked well but not with the One. I have the new fitness tracker from withings on order now which will work with just about any android phone.
futuregerald said:
They have a page where they list devices that will sync:
http://www.fitbit.com/devices
I've had a fitbit one for about six months and and i previously used it with my Note 2 which would sync fine, now that i switched to the one it doesn't sync and i'm really annoyed by that. I'm hoping that since Google is implementing low energy profile for bluetooth in Android 2.3 they will add support for it fast then any phone with 2.3 will support bluetooth syncing out the box.
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I read that thanks but if have look here http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htcdev-ble-api/ it clearly states that the HTC One is BLE compartible.
atomicsoul said:
I read that thanks but if have look here http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htcdev-ble-api/ it clearly states that the HTC One is BLE compartible.
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Yes but it's HTC's own implementation which the fitbit doesn't support. I'm hoping that moving forward with 4.3 once fitbit adds support for that, all 4.3 devices will support fitbit syncing right out of the gate and they wont' have to add device specific support.
futuregerald said:
Yes but it's HTC's own implementation which the fitbit doesn't support. I'm hoping that moving forward with 4.3 once fitbit adds support for that, all 4.3 devices will support fitbit syncing right out of the gate and they wont' have to add device specific support.
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I guess you are right. Only problem is HTC take forever to update the devises I don't root my phones anymore. I rooted my Desire S but had to keep changing ROM's every other month coz suddenly the guy updating decides he ain't gonna bother anymore. So by the time HTC One gets the official 4.3 update I probably will be moving on to a different tracker or the other way round.
I think for keeping customers happy they should implement using HTC's own.
Agreed, wish they would do it also but what are you gonna do? btw there are several stable roms out for the htc one. You certainly don't have to update often. Honestly if we got the sense gallery with zoe support on the Google Edition roms on 4.3 then I would switch.
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Agreed, wish they would do it also but what are you gonna do? btw there are several stable roms out for the htc one. You certainly don't have to update often. Honestly if we got the sense gallery with zoe support on the Google Edition roms on 4.3 then I would switch.
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So the Flex works with my HTC One if i have a 4.3 GLE rom?
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So the Flex works with my HTC One if i have a 4.3 GLE rom?
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No. I'm using GPE HTC One and the wireless sync still isn't present in fitbit app
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CraigP17 said:
No. I'm using GPE HTC One and the wireless sync still isn't present in fitbit app
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Is there any way to spoof the device? So that the app thinks it's an SGS4?
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Is there any way to spoof the device? So that the app thinks it's an SGS4?
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OK, good news for those of us with a flex and the HTC One. If you are running a 4.3 rom you can edit your build.prop file to make the fitbit app think you are running the GS4 Google Play edition. Here are the changes:
ro.product.brand = samsung
ro.product.manufacturer = samsung
ro.product.model - GT-I9505G
make sure that "samsung" is all lower case. I don't believe you need to change both brand and manufacturer for the fitbit app, but I forget which one specifically you do need to so I did both. There are plenty of posts on the forum describing how to edit a build.prop file.
I had problems getting the build.prop to save with Android Revolution HD 4.3 rom, but have had success with Cyanogenmod as well as Insert Coin. Just make sure you are running a 4.3 rom, and be sure to reboot after making the changes then double check that they stuck. Syncing with my One has made the Flex that much better for me, I hope fitbit get around to supporting it for everybody soon.
chindoza said:
OK, good news for those of us with a flex and the HTC One. If you are running a 4.3 rom you can edit your build.prop file to make the fitbit app think you are running the GS4 Google Play edition. Here are the changes:
ro.product.brand = samsung
ro.product.manufacturer = samsung
ro.product.model - GT-I9505G
make sure that "samsung" is all lower case. I don't believe you need to change both brand and manufacturer for the fitbit app, but I forget which one specifically you do need to so I did both. There are plenty of posts on the forum describing how to edit a build.prop file.
I had problems getting the build.prop to save with Android Revolution HD 4.3 rom, but have had success with Cyanogenmod as well as Insert Coin. Just make sure you are running a 4.3 rom, and be sure to reboot after making the changes then double check that they stuck. Syncing with my One has made the Flex that much better for me, I hope fitbit get around to supporting it for everybody soon.
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How do I do that ? Or can you provide the file ?
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Hello,
Just got my Tab on Friday. Are the subject apps available? I cannot find them in the market.
Thanks!
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no on Netflix and the future of it on this tablet is quite grim too.
there's no native Facebook app optimized for tablets just yet (how silly is that), only the phone version which is not available for this device. people tend to like this as a substitute for now:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.locomolabs.facebook
or just use the browser.
i think Words With Friends is not tablet optimized either and thus not available.
mannequin said:
there's no native Facebook app optimized for tablets just yet (how silly is that), only the phone version which is not available for this device.
i think Words With Friends is not tablet optimized either and thus not available.
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There isn't even an iPad app for Facebook yet.
I use WWF on my Tab without issue
I use the Facebook app from my phone. Actually, it automatically downloaded and installed when I first logged into the tablet. It synced all my apps, even the ones that don't show up in a market search.
I read somewhwre, I believe it was the words for friends change log, that they were working on a tablet optimized version. Could be wrong though.
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I use the Facebook app from my phone. Actually, it automatically downloaded and installed when I first logged into the tablet. It synced all my apps, even the ones that don't show up in a market search.
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yeah it does that. not gonna work if you never installed it on the phone though.
mannequin said:
yeah it does that. not gonna work if you never installed it on the phone though.
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Friendcaster isn't free but it works great. FriendMe should have a new version out next week that's more usable. And Facebook iPad is coming out soon... so maybe HC next?
Friendcaster sucks IMO. Only thing it has is the feed. You're better off using the actual website. FriendMe is a little better but its still missing some of the core features.
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Would be nice to play Words with friends on this new tablet i just bought
you guys dont have words with friends???? i have it on my tablet... and i had it on my xoom too i got it from the market
did they remove it or something??
i can post the apk
xtkxhom3r said:
you guys dont have words with friends???? i have it on my tablet... and i had it on my xoom too i got it from the market
did they remove it or something??
i can post the apk
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Yes they did during the last update. They said they are working on a Honeycomb version. The phone version does work, but it cuts off the bottoms of the letters in your tray. You can't tell F's from E's for example. Also when you use a blank tile the letter chooser is not displayed properly.
That said, it does work.
I would assume the new UI will be more like the Ipad's.
Andy
I have WWF on my phone, and it auto downloaded to my tab when I opened the market for the first time.
Suppose I have to wait since this is my first Android anything
You can sideload it: Download it here
Completely legit, use the quick download button. Install Astro before you download it, and use the app installer.
http://www.getjar.com/mobile/48090/...6j608cinkp1p03r4&c=l2guqa0e2bj1jx0713&lang=en
I've got WWF on my tab. Auto downloaded first time. It blows on the tab atm. The bottom bar covers like 20% of the letters. for some you have to drag them up to see what they are. They need a tab version badly.
Here is a great facebook app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.locomolabs.facebook&feature=search_result
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When did the phone version of facebook get changed? I was able to download it from the market when i got my tab last week.
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Just got my to.1 yesterday, I was in love with it until I found out these three apps were not available, looks like I will be returning it in the next few days, =( pretty bummed, I guess I should have researched this prior to purchasing, but they seemed like such basic app's that it never crossed my mind that they wouldn't be available
I have been an android guy for a long time ( had a g1, and now have a g2 ) and this may be what pushes me over to the Ios darkside
just spoke to a Netflix rep. to summarize, he said that they are very aware that tons of people are looking for a Honeycomb app, and that they have offered the major manufacturers (Samsung, HTC, Motorola..) the necessary things to integrate Netflix, and that it's up to the manufacturers to decide if they would like to implement the DRM needed to run Netflix. but since some of these manufacturers, Samsung for example, are planning on a media hub.. the Netflix rep said that Samsung might see it as competition to their own offerings. so we should all contact both Samsung and Netflix to let them know how badly we want Netlifx.
Netflix customer service: 1-866-716-0414
Samsung live chat: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact
Samsung customer service for apps: 1-888-899-7609
Netflix app
radiohead14 said:
just spoke to a Netflix rep. to summarize, he said that they are very aware that tons of people are looking for a Honeycomb app, and that they have offered the major manufacturers (Samsung, HTC, Motorola..) the necessary things to integrate Netflix, and that it's up to the manufacturers to decide if they would like to implement the DRM needed to run Netflix. but since some of these manufacturers, Samsung for example, are planning on a media hub.. the Netflix rep said that Samsung might see it as competition to their own offerings. so we should all contact both Samsung and Netflix to let them know how badly we want Netlifx.
Netflix customer service: 1-866-716-0414
Samsung live chat:
Samsung customer service for apps: 1-888-899-7609
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So I just finished chatting with Samsung and this is what they had to say....
Dave: Hi, thanks for reaching out to Samsung tech support. How can I help you today?
Andre: I recently purchased your new galaxy 10.1 and found out that there is no Netflix app compatible with it. why is that?
Dave: Please allow me to go through the inquiry.
Andre: k
Dave: Let me explain.
Dave: Netflix works on Silver lite to stream movies. The Samsung Tab doesn't support this Silver lite. However, Samsung and Microsoft are working to release a upgrade so that Tab will support Silver lite and then you can stream from Netflix.
Andre: how soon can we expect this?
Dave: I'm sorry; this information will be released only after releasing the appropriate upgrade for the Tab and I do not want to provide you with any false information.
Andre: are we talking weeks, months, years?
Andre: this is a big reason i purchased the tablet
Dave: I can understand your concern. I recommend you contact our phone support at 1-800-SAMSUNG (726-7864); they are available 24/7. I'm sure they'll assist you further in this regard.
Andre: k... thanks
Hi everyone, I've just notice that in the HTC evo view 4g official website, under support -> download page, a "view 4g user guide - honeycomb" was recently added on Monday, Nov 14. Does this indicate that view 4g will get honeycomb update soon?
I don't think I can post links on the board yet, sorry about that.
Hi,
Link to the document -> http://htc.com/us/content/documents/HTC_EVO_View_4G/20111020_Sprint_EVO_View_4G_UG.PDF
I guess this means we are edging closer to a release..
Cool, and there is a pic of an official Honeycomb Swype keyboard on the View in that manual. Shouldn't be too much longer.
Why no description of the Scribe pen technology ? Isn't it supposed to be systemwide in Honeycomb?
the view docs are terrible, compare them to the jetstream docs.
rbebber said:
the view docs are terrible, compare them to the jetstream docs.
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the point is that there were only a user guide for view 4g - gingerbread, which was uploaded sometime back in the summer, and now the honeycomb version of the user guide just popped up on Monday, may indicate the honeycomb update is around the corner... I do have to agree with you that the user guide is next to useless...
The point is, there was a questiion about the pen.
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my guess is going to be that since the HTC scribe is a seperate product, they left the pen out so that they could stop including the pen at a future point if they wanted to without everyone pestering them with "but the user guide says you could".
yeah, not everyone wants or buys the pen. It's a separate product.
The manual is gone now, you can only see the gingerbread version of the manual...... maybe there isn't a honeycomb to begin with, it was just our imaginations... I need to go to the doctors, because I'm starting to seeing things...
frjj said:
The manual is gone now, you can only see the gingerbread version of the manual...... maybe there isn't a honeycomb to begin with, it was just our imaginations... I need to go to the doctors, because I'm starting to seeing things...
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It's still there, unless I'm also seeing things. :
http://www.htc.com/us/content/documents/HTC_EVO_View_4G/20111020_Sprint_EVO_View_4G_UG.PDF
frjj said:
The manual is gone now, you can only see the gingerbread version of the manual...... maybe there isn't a honeycomb to begin with, it was just our imaginations... I need to go to the doctors, because I'm starting to seeing things...
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Confirmed the manual is definitely gone. I was hoping the flyer would be something more when I bought it. Unfortunately, I was foolish to buy it for what it could be, rather what it is. I think it's going back to the store. Now I have to figure out what to do with these accessories I bought online.
jscott30 said:
It's still there, unless I'm also seeing things. :
http://www.htc.com/us/content/documents/HTC_EVO_View_4G/20111020_Sprint_EVO_View_4G_UG.PDF
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You are direct linking to the pdf file, they are not deleting the file, but the tech support page isn't showing it anymore, it was shown on that page yesterday.
frjj said:
You are direct linking to the pdf file, they are not deleting the file, but the tech support page isn't showing it anymore, it was shown on that page yesterday.
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Yes, of course. I wouldn't expect it to stay on the tech support page, though, until Honeycomb is officially released.
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Yes, of course. I wouldn't expect it to stay on the tech support page, though, until Honeycomb is officially released.
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hopefully the official release date isn't too far... maybe htc is done with the hc development, and right now it's sprint who is holding up the release, because sprint need to dump all their bloatware in first...
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cmunho said:
Confirmed the manual is definitely gone. I was hoping the flyer would be something more when I bought it. Unfortunately, I was foolish to buy it for what it could be, rather what it is. I think it's going back to the store. Now I have to figure out what to do with these accessories I bought online.
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You weren't foolish at all.
The Flyer is hands down the best built, highest performance tablet on the market until the Asus Prime Tegra 3 hits the market.
We have had virtually every tablet going - Acer, Asus, Archos, Samsung - and they all went back and the Flyer stayed
So what the Flyer is running Gingerbread 2.3.4 - - far better that than buggy and unstable Honeycomb.
Until the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 comes out - we still take the Flyer over any other 7" tablet currently available - and the Samsung 7.7 is likely to cost well over $500
matthew2582 said:
You weren't foolish at all.
The Flyer is hands down the best built, highest performance tablet on the market until the Asus Prime Tegra 3 hits the market.
We have had virtually every tablet going - Acer, Asus, Archos, Samsung - and they all went back and the Flyer stayed
So what the Flyer is running Gingerbread 2.3.4 - - far better that than buggy and unstable Honeycomb.
Until the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 comes out - we still take the Flyer over any other 7" tablet currently available - and the Samsung 7.7 is likely to cost well over $500
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Don't get me know, I like it a ton, but running 2.3.4 is severely limiting to me. I want the pen input for art apps. It's the perfect size for sketching, but until HC comes to it...it just doesn't work at that.
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Don't get me know, I like it a ton, but running 2.3.4 is severely limiting to me. I want the pen input for art apps. It's the perfect size for sketching, but until HC comes to it...it just doesn't work at that.
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I agree it is the perfect size for sketching...
We know it exists, in some cases we even know of people who have access to it, we just haven't managed to convince anyone with access to leak it.
I've been trying to find some information on getting the TrueSmart connected to my S4. I've found references to something called Osmart, and downloading additional apps from the play store, however to my knowledge Osmart does not exist and I have not been able to find any other info. Does anyone know what the status of this functionality is? Is this still being developed? is there a working solution?
Go to Omate dev on google Plus kurt is makeing the app and you have to belong to the beta group to get the app from the play store. Hope this helps.
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I've been trying to find some information on getting the TrueSmart connected to my S4. I've found references to something called Osmart, and downloading additional apps from the play store, however to my knowledge Osmart does not exist and I have not been able to find any other info. Does anyone know what the status of this functionality is? Is this still being developed? is there a working solution?
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Both apps are BETA releases right now so not all features work.
If you want to use it as a companion device you need OSmart Master (on your phone) and OSmart Companion (on your watch).
To get access to the OSmart Master app you need to join the Omate TrueSmart Developers G+ community and then sign up as a tester for the OSmart Master app
To get the companion app you need to download and install it from the OStore
I cannot find osmart in the ostore. Is there a more recent version of the ostore I need to get?
bram49 said:
I cannot find osmart in the ostore. Is there a more recent version of the ostore I need to get?
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It is currently being updated.
Lokifish Marz said:
It is currently being updated.
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Anyone know when the Osmart app will return?
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It is currently being updated.
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Unfortunately, Kurt been trying to get his updated version into OStore for the last 2 months without any luck. I got his latest copy before X-mas (he emailed it to me). As far as I can tell there are still issues, and I wasn't able to get it to work reliably with my Note 2. Some notifications get displayed, others don't, and often I had to reboot TrueSmart to restart the app to continue working. It's a bit disappointing but you have to keep in mind that Kurt is doing this in his spare time out of the goodness of his heart. Omate original intention for TrueSmart is to have standalone watch used with SIM or wi-fi, not bleutooth tethered like Pebble or MetaWatch.
Now with a larger worldwide deployment of TrueSmart, they will be more focused on support of main TS functionality rather than "bonus" bt tethering, I'm afraid...
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Unfortunately, Kurt been trying to get his updated version into OStore for the last 2 months without any luck. I got his latest copy before X-mas (he emailed it to me). As far as I can tell there are still issues, and I wasn't able to get it to work reliably with my Note 2. Some notifications get displayed, others don't, and often I had to reboot TrueSmart to restart the app to continue working. It's a bit disappointing but you have to keep in mind that Kurt is doing this in his spare time out of the goodness of his heart. Omate original intention for TrueSmart is to have standalone watch used with SIM or wi-fi, not bleutooth tethered like Pebble or MetaWatch.
Now with a larger worldwide deployment of TrueSmart, they will be more focused on support of main TS functionality rather than "bonus" bt tethering, I'm afraid...
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I just find it all extremely disappointing. Kurt should NOT have to develop this on his own in his spare time. Omates backers deserve better. I backed this campaign not only because of its independent functionality but because of the promise Omate made that this watch will work as a companion. It's there in black and white and color for all to see, in fact it's the first thing you see when you view the kickstarter page:
Omate® TrueSmart™ truly standalone water-resistant smartwatch, works independently from and with all smartphones. 3G, Voice & Gestures!
I'm not sure what you're source for this information is, but I truly hope you are mistaken otherwise the list of broken promises grows as this was never considered a bonus feature by us backers.
Would like to point out a couple things;
Work with far more devices than the Gear. (when you can find the app)
Is one of a very few Android based smartwatches that supports a companion mode. The AW-420 and other x201 don't even offer this as a possiblity.
Is the only watchphone that I know of that even supports a companion mode (a there are a ton of these around).
Kurt is an employee of Omate.
And this is all with BETA apps on a BETA device that has not even reached the retail market yet.
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I just find it all extremely disappointing. Kurt should NOT have to develop this on his own in his spare time. Omates backers deserve better. I backed this campaign not only because of its independent functionality but because of the promise Omate made that this watch will work as a companion. It's there in black and white and color for all to see, in fact it's the first thing you see when you view the kickstarter page:
Omate® TrueSmart™ truly standalone water-resistant smartwatch, works independently from and with all smartphones. 3G, Voice & Gestures!
I'm not sure what you're source for this information is, but I truly hope you are mistaken otherwise the list of broken promises grows as this was never considered a bonus feature by us backers.
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Kurt is contracted to make these apps.
Good luck getting any non-Samsung phone to work well with the Gear.
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Kurt is contracted to make these apps.
Good luck getting any non-Samsung phone to work well with the Gear.
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Contract or not this was a core feature for many backers, Nobody should be developing this app in their spare time.
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What part about contract work are you unfamiliar with?
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Since my last communication with Kurt was before x-mas and my info about Omate priority of TS being standalone device came from video interview given by Laurent to Smartwatchfan website during CES, obviously my info is not up to date, so I would listen to Kuronosan update as an official confirmation.
You fund the development of a product and join a developers forum and then complain about a lack of final run features.
If you want a final product, go to Best Buy. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, Kickstarter and XDA-Developers are your friends.
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marsonist said:
You fund the development of a product and join a developers forum and then complain about a lack of final run features.
If you want a final product, go to Best Buy. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, Kickstarter and XDA-Developers are your friends.
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Spare me that old song and dance. I think that lone has been plagiarized enough. Perhaps if you bothered to read my posts you would understand. I have no issues with the availability of these features at launch. I do, however have issue when a company that raised over a million dollars hires one guy to develop a core feature in his spare time. I also have issues when SD cards and spare batteries are sent separate from a device with a note basically saying if you install them you will void your warranty. Perhaps in backward world this makes sense, but not in this one.
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What part about contract work are you unfamiliar with?
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I'm well famiar with contract work, that doesn't mean that I agree with how omate is handling the development of this core feature.
By your logic simply because I understand what the NSA is doing I should agree with it.
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So a BETA device that is not even been released to retail has no relevance? I am on xda right?
I agree with Loki; hw is finalized and the SW is still in beta testing. That is a whole idea of KS/IGG project deadline to get hw in the hands of backers. SW can be updated with yet another patch, hw fixes are much harder to handle. BUT, at the same time I'm happy to see current TS owners voicing their opinion about importance of Companion app. For a lot of us, a basic smartwatch principle has been defined by Pebble/Metawatch notification model. TS is a fantastic standalone device, especially if you are not on Verizon (lol!!!). But for a lot of other people who find their Pebble/Metawatch to be limited, myself included, we are looking for TS to be a super smartwatch to take us there.
As long as Omate guys are not dropping a ball on bt tethering (for notification purposes), we need to wait until they prioritize their work to get there. And if we still talking about this 6 months from now, then you have all the rights to get pissed
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I'm well famiar with contract work, that doesn't mean that I agree with how omate is handling the development of this core feature.
By your logic simply because I understand what the NSA is doing I should agree with it.
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Your logic is terrible, and so are you.
Just leave. Please. Everyone here is already tired of your bad inferences and faulty logic.
Go complain on the Cyanogen or OMNI topics about how "X feature isn't implemented wtf" and see how quickly you're laughed out of the topic. You clearly have no clue how development works.
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Your logic is terrible, and so are you.
Just leave. Please. Everyone here is already tired of your bad inferences and faulty logic.
Go complain on the Cyanogen or OMNI topics about how "X feature isn't implemented wtf" and see how quickly you're laughed out of the topic. You clearly have no clue how development works.
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This is my thread, I'm not going anywhere. You clearly can't handle what I have to say for whatever reason. It's like having a conversation with a 5 year old. You run out of things to say so you resort to name calling and saying go away.
For the mature people here, I'm not going to debate whether this device should be considered a beta device or not, or whether the fact that it's a kickstarter automatically renders it so. I will, however state that I have read every bit of information available on the truesmart and at no point does it state that this is a beta watch. Some of you might argue that it's a given considering it's a kickstarter. Well then, at what point is a kickstarter device deemed ready to release? At hardwares completion? Once an os is installed? Perhaps once the device meets all its advertised specifications? None of the above? We could debate this for days. However, this thread has gotten so far off topic at this point, I'll leave it at that.
Does anyone know where I can find a standalone email .wgt (I don't want to connect to my phone... it's apple... don't kill me)?
Also, an android launcher .wgt like nova launcher would be really cool! (I don't care about battery life if I'm running this)
The main reason my wife bought me this watch was so I could be sneaky and check my emails while I'm in meetings... that way I'd have more time to spend with her at home rather than answering emails until 8pm... I'm pretty much screwed either way, but my inner geek wants to make this work, and I don't like Samsung limiting what my property can do.
This watch can be a completely stand alone device, but Samsung has crippled it's capabilities in an attempt to force us to buy one of their smartphones. I'm not a big fan of these marketing tactics, and have made it my mission to make this watch do what I want it to do, and know it can do. I will not buy a Samsung phone just so I can play with my watch.
I'm a complete noob at this, but thanks to this forum, I've been able to learn quickly. I've been able to root the watch and sideload all of the apps i can find (and think are useful).
I still don't have access to download registered apps, since I didn't cave in and buy a samsung phone. I'm sure there are a lot of good apps that help increase the functionality of the watch.
I'm hoping there are some geniuses out there who could help me out with the email and android launcher questions.
Email/apps
I'm in the same boat as you are. Not spending the extra cash on an additional phone has left much to be desired with the watch. Being a standalone device I thought I would have at least been able to get emails, so a new app is much needed.
Btw I did several searches but could find how to Sideload apps onto the gear s...do you happen to have a link? What apps were you able to find, and can you post them? Thanks, like you I'm very new but willing to help in any way I can.
Now if we can figure out the pit file/ full android I'd be set!
Thanks again!
weedenrw said:
Does anyone know where I can find a standalone email .wgt (I don't want to connect to my phone... it's apple... don't kill me)?
Also, an android launcher .wgt like nova launcher would be really cool! (I don't care about battery life if I'm running this)
The main reason my wife bought me this watch was so I could be sneaky and check my emails while I'm in meetings... that way I'd have more time to spend with her at home rather than answering emails until 8pm... I'm pretty much screwed either way, but my inner geek wants to make this work, and I don't like Samsung limiting what my property can do.
This watch can be a completely stand alone device, but Samsung has crippled it's capabilities in an attempt to force us to buy one of their smartphones. I'm not a big fan of these marketing tactics, and have made it my mission to make this watch do what I want it to do, and know it can do. I will not buy a Samsung phone just so I can play with my watch.
I'm a complete noob at this, but thanks to this forum, I've been able to learn quickly. I've been able to root the watch and sideload all of the apps i can find (and think are useful).
I still don't have access to download registered apps, since I didn't cave in and buy a samsung phone. I'm sure there are a lot of good apps that help increase the functionality of the watch.
I'm hoping there are some geniuses out there who could help me out with the email and android launcher questions.
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I just bought a cheapo compatible sammy.
Buy a used galaxy running 4.3 (s3 mini on ebay, used ~$50-70) and use it as a relay. Just copy all the apps and mail accounts from your daily driver onto the S3, connect to Wi-Fi, set the notifications, disconnect from Bluetooth, and use the remote as the tether.
crazyshakespeare13 said:
I'm in the same boat as you are. Not spending the extra cash on an additional phone has left much to be desired with the watch. Being a standalone device I thought I would have at least been able to get emails, so a new app is much needed.
Btw I did several searches but could find how to Sideload apps onto the gear s...do you happen to have a link? What apps were you able to find, and can you post them? Thanks, like you I'm very new but willing to help in any way I can.
Now if we can figure out the pit file/ full android I'd be set!
Thanks again!
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Hopefully someone will come up with a standalone_email.wgt soon.
Right now I'm looking into the feasibility of flashing an Android ROM onto my Gear S.... if that's even possible. Given the limited apps available for Tizen, and all of the built in mess that samsung has provided with this phone, I'm thinking that is the way to go. But, I'm a noob, so haven't had a chance to work with ODIN too much on the ROM flashing side of things.
this is by far the best guide on sideloading apps for Gear S (for your average noob like me):
denvycom.com/blog/how-to-install-wgt-files-gear2
A few wrinkles they don't go over:
Make sure your Java is up to date. If it isn't, Tizen won't install. However, more problematic for me, was getting the developer.samsung.com website to work correctly with my default browser. I uninstalled it and re installed it (and all versions between 6 and 8) quite a few times. If you have the same problems and the website isn't loading java correctly, it's going to be virtually impossible to get your author cert or device profile licenses. I hope you don't run into this problem.
Once you get all of that working, you can scour the Gear S and Gear 2 forums for .wgt files (these .wgt are the "application" files that Tizen uses). There are a lot here on this forum. just download them, copy them to the SDB folder, open up your CMD prompt, find sdb foler, type sdb install xxx.wgt, the press enter.
I'm still not happy with what I've been able to find, pretty much the only .wgt files I've found that are nice are opera mini and a few calculators. Opera mini can't even load flash, so kiss listening to Pandora over your Bluetooth headphones while running.
which brings up another good app request... if anybody is listening... a pandora.wgt would be really really cool!!
Hope this helps
mghtymse007 said:
I just bought a cheapo compatible sammy.
Buy a used galaxy running 4.3 (s3 mini on ebay, used ~$50-70) and use it as a relay. Just copy all the apps and mail accounts from your daily driver onto the S3, connect to Wi-Fi, set the notifications, disconnect from Bluetooth, and use the remote as the tether.
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That's called "getting tricked by the biz"! It's like buying a $50 t-shirt! At least you can wear the t-shirt
Sorry man, not trying to be negative, I know it would be easier to do it this way. The fact that they're making me buy one of their phones to make my watch work makes me want to buy a Samsung even less!
weedenrw said:
That's called "getting tricked by the biz"! It's like buying a $50 t-shirt! At least you can wear the t-shirt
Sorry man, not trying to be negative, I know it would be easier to do it this way. The fact that they're making me buy one of their phones to make my watch work makes me want to buy a Samsung even less!
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Not saying I don't disagree with you. It's a real BS game these guys play! These two devices are the first and only Sam tech I have, and never found their forced ecosystem tactics tasteful. In the end, i REALLY did try to find a possible alternative...From LG to Umeox to ZGPAX. I struggled with an Omate TS for almost a year...to get what the S does out of box (w/compatible Sam, or course) and more.
For me...i needed a reliable device...function beat out emotion and personal feelings in this case.
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Hopefully someone will come up with a standalone_email.wgt soon.
Right now I'm looking into the feasibility of flashing an Android ROM onto my Gear S.... if that's even possible. Given the limited apps available for Tizen, and all of the built in mess that samsung has provided with this phone, I'm thinking that is the way to go. But, I'm a noob, so haven't had a chance to work with ODIN too much on the ROM flashing side of things.
this is by far the best guide on sideloading apps for Gear S (for your average noob like me):
denvycom.com/blog/how-to-install-wgt-files-gear2
A few wrinkles they don't go over:
Make sure your Java is up to date. If it isn't, Tizen won't install. However, more problematic for me, was getting the developer.samsung.com website to work correctly with my default browser. I uninstalled it and re installed it (and all versions between 6 and 8) quite a few times. If you have the same problems and the website isn't loading java correctly, it's going to be virtually impossible to get your author cert or device profile licenses. I hope you don't run into this problem.
Once you get all of that working, you can scour the Gear S and Gear 2 forums for .wgt files (these .wgt are the "application" files that Tizen uses). There are a lot here on this forum. just download them, copy them to the SDB folder, open up your CMD prompt, find sdb foler, type sdb install xxx.wgt, the press enter.
I'm still not happy with what I've been able to find, pretty much the only .wgt files I've found that are nice are opera mini and a few calculators. Opera mini can't even load flash, so kiss listening to Pandora over your Bluetooth headphones while running.
which brings up another good app request... if anybody is listening... a pandora.wgt would be really really cool!!
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the advice...hopefully I can get to installing some later today. After purchasing the gear and soon learning all its limitations I went to Walmart and purchased a prepaid Samsung phone for the first time pairing before returning the phone. While I managed to get a few apps I quickly found out that most are useless without a paired device.
I do have opera install but found after rooting the gear the app opens to a black screen and that's all.
Long story short, until a new rom is created I'm pretty much stuck with a phone and messaging device (which is nice and all...but not for the price we paid)
Thanks again for all the info!
mghtymse007 said:
I just bought a cheapo compatible sammy.
Buy a used galaxy running 4.3 (s3 mini on ebay, used ~$50-70) and use it as a relay. Just copy all the apps and mail accounts from your daily driver onto the S3, connect to Wi-Fi, set the notifications, disconnect from Bluetooth, and use the remote as the tether.
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thanks for the info
mghtymse007 said:
I just bought a cheapo compatible sammy.
Buy a used galaxy running 4.3 (s3 mini on ebay, used ~$50-70) and use it as a relay. Just copy all the apps and mail accounts from your daily driver onto the S3, connect to Wi-Fi, set the notifications, disconnect from Bluetooth, and use the remote as the tether.
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Hi there!
I am in the same boat as you. iPhone 6 is my primary phone but i also have a twin SIM card that i want to use with the Gear S (standalone). However i still need a (cheap as it can get) Samsung phone for setting up the watch, installing apps and the remote connection.
Can you please confirm that the S3 mini is indeed compatible with the Gear S; What version of Android does it have? Can you post the exact FW name? I was not sure it supported BT 4.0 hardwarewise.
Thank you so much!
gidi said:
Hi there!
I am in the same boat as you. iPhone 6 is my primary phone but i also have a twin SIM card that i want to use with the Gear S (standalone). However i still need a (cheap as it can get) Samsung phone for setting up the watch, installing apps and the remote connection.
Can you please confirm that the S3 mini is indeed compatible with the Gear S; What version of Android does it have? Can you post the exact FW name? I was not sure it supported BT 4.0 hardwarewise.
Thank you so much!
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Ah, this is a great one. Did this for a friend a few weeks ago...an iPhone 6 playing nice with a Samsung! (Think I heard something about Hell and freezing on this subject But all kidding aside, she does get a lot of comments about the phone/watch combo.
To be honest, I think there's a lot more phones that are compatible with the S that Sammy is letting on. At our Main OFFICIAL AT&T store...their little tablets show maybe 7 or so Samsung models that are "officially" compatible. However, I've heard, and read of some folks trying cheap, simple pre-paid models...and all is working.
After doing some quick research, it seems that it's more important to have Android 4.3 or higher to ensure full functionality. It's the additional Gear Mgr software that will handle the S's functions... And their 4.3+/TouchWiz combo seems to be the key.
Hope this helps... Good luck!
Oh, and BTW, I don't have an iPhone... I do have an android based phone, the HTC One M8. I just have never cared for TouchWiz, nor Samsung's designs.
(Please no OEM wars, just stating my personal opinion)
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Hello Guys! I've seen a lot of frustrated guys out there that were disappointed that Pioneer won't update their 4000nex units to support Android Auto. I saw this posted and wondered if this guy can do it so quickly, surely someone here could accomplish the same. I'm tempted to purchase his solution. Anybody have any thoughts as to whether this is safe?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-4000NEX-ANDROID-AUTO-FIRMWARE-4100-4000-NEX-/271816740040
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Hello Guys! I've seen a lot of frustrated guys out there that were disappointed that Pioneer won't update their 4000nex units to support Android Auto. I saw this posted and wondered if this guy can do it so quickly, surely someone here could accomplish the same. I'm tempted to purchase his solution. Anybody have any thoughts as to whether this is safe?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-AVIC-4000NEX-ANDROID-AUTO-FIRMWARE-4100-4000-NEX-/271816740040
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this would be pretty freaking rad. the two head units from what everything is pointing to, are identical aside from the software. i would like to believe this is legit. i have been eye balling a 4000. the android auto would be a nice feature to have but it is lame on their part to not do a firmware update.
I have loaded it into my head unit. The program loads but right now there is no audio for android auto. Im waiting for an update and will give it a try at that point. I wish I were savy enough to know what to do but unfortunately I'm not. I have the firmware and can upload it if anybody who is interested wants to take a look.
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I have loaded it into my head unit. The program loads but right now there is no audio for android auto. Im waiting for an update and will give it a try at that point. I wish I were savy enough to know what to do but unfortunately I'm not. I have the firmware and can upload it if anybody who is interested wants to take a look.
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I designed something myself as for a firmware interface to work with the 4000NEX. If you don't mind though, I'd like to take a look at what you have to see if mine is exactly mirrored or a bit different. Two things I noticing here is when it was posted he said he couldn't get the bluetooth to work for it, which I have rerouted a fix for that. But as for the audio not working for android auto, I want to see what is different on what you have and what I have. Mine worked fine when trialled, but it could be because of my current system already having bluetooth in the truck. If you don't mind, can you upload it here or email it to me? jared.balsor at gmail dot com
It would be great to get AA on the 4000NEX.
Hopefully someone here can get the firmware to work 100%. I'd be willing to donate.
flash150xlt said:
I designed something myself as for a firmware interface to work with the 4000NEX. If you don't mind though, I'd like to take a look at what you have to see if mine is exactly mirrored or a bit different. Two things I noticing here is when it was posted he said he couldn't get the bluetooth to work for it, which I have rerouted a fix for that. But as for the audio not working for android auto, I want to see what is different on what you have and what I have. Mine worked fine when trialled, but it could be because of my current system already having bluetooth in the truck. If you don't mind, can you upload it here or email it to me? jared.balsor at gmail dot com
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By chance are you making any progress or updates on this? I would love to get a copy of the firmware with working bluetooth audio streaming.
a guy on avic411 has been making some real good progress on this as well.
mptrh336 said:
I have loaded it into my head unit. The program loads but right now there is no audio for android auto. Im waiting for an update and will give it a try at that point. I wish I were savy enough to know what to do but unfortunately I'm not. I have the firmware and can upload it if anybody who is interested wants to take a look.
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Any chance you still have it and can upload it?
I also will be willing to donate for a copy of of that firmware that can enable android auto and still have Bluetooth capabilities.
slbailador said:
I also will be willing to donate for a copy of of that firmware that can enable android auto and still have Bluetooth capabilities.
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Yeah same here. Pisses me off that I only bought that head unit a year ago, and they updated the firmware for apple carplay but not android auto.
Firmware for NEX4000 to make it useful, please
I'm so irritated at Pioneer i could spit. I've updated to 1.11, got the MHL HDMI to usb adapter for my Galaxy Note 4, and then found out that i bought the crappy 4000NEX. The 4100? Son of a *****.
So, sell me 1 of your lauded & much praised firmware please, good sir. ☺