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Hey guys,
I bought this Lumia 800 a month ago after an HTC Mozart. And i absolutly love it i really do. The design is gorgeous and WP7 seems to be made for this phone. The camera is alot better than the Mozart.
But here is the thing i have some complaints about the phone:
-The screen i just beautiful when you start reading something on it. The PenTil display make every single pixel visible... And the white are the worse i've seen on a phone. So i think the Mozart screen still had some goodness on its side. But on the Nokia the CBD is just amazing...
-[This issue i maybe due to a hardware problem on mine] The camera button is a 2 stage button like every WP handset but on this one 90% of the time i can't feel the second stage... If i press a little to much the phone takes a picture. The Mozart's button was alot better.
About the power button, the jack being near the usb port etc... I got used to it so i won't complaint about them whether you like them or not it's your choice.
But these are not the issues which push me to creates this topic. I bought this phone thinking that i bought a second gen WP but the Nokia Lumia 800:
-Doesn't have FFC
I knew this before i bought the phone but i learned MS is about to release a Skype app... So Nokia knew about this when they lunched the phone...
Hell no one really uses the FFC so it's not really that big of a problem.
-The lack of gyroscope. I knew about this too but i believed that API which try to replace it with the accelerometer and the compass was well implemented by Nokia.
And that i wouldn't see Augmented reality app appear for WP before 6month a year. But they did Wikitude is out for WP and i absolutly love this app. With the NL800 it's unusable... I tougth Nokia couldn't predict these app wouldn't come so soon on the WP platform neither did I.
Surprise! Nokia publishes a video with their future Augmented Reality app. Few hours after they unveiled the Lumia 900.
-Here is the primary source of my anger and the reason i sold my Mozart it didn't had the Internet Connection Sharing and wasn't getting it because of Orange branding (BTW I'm on WP because i'm fed up with Custom Rom). I believed Nokia when they told users ICS would come really soon.
The fact is i'm still waiting and exept one Topic on XDA no one talks about the interface getting a few centimer on the right...
Here is is the conclusion: I got a Lumia 800 "The first real Windows Phone" but in the end, the only real 2nd Gen spec i got was the one i didn't needed: A faster proc.
My point is not to say this phone sucks or Nokia used us as test but, even they did i really do love it i works perfectly, it's fast and smooth. And the battery last as long as the Mozart.
I just want to know what you guys think about this. I really do love the phone and i'm not trolling i'm trying to understand. Because the new HTC and Samsung phones have the new hardware and ICS...
I apologize for my english to all of you.
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Not sure what you want people to say. The phone isn't perfect, of course. Neither is the operating system. But we didn't buy the Lumia 800 thinking that it was. You can't complain about non-existing specs if they were never advertised. You bought the phone knowing that it doesn't have a FFC or a gyroscope, or ICS. I wonder if the 800 was a rushed job of just porting WP7 to the N9.
I do agree that the camera button kinda sucks though. Too flimsy.
I compared the screen on Lumia with Samsung Omnia 7 and the Nokias whites looked much whiter.
I've read that the camera button on the 800 does not have a second click by design. It is a soft 'click' as you describe.
The reasoning for this is because the second 'click' causes your hand to shake and thus the camera to shake blurring the image.
I wish i could find the article on this...
jhughesy said:
I compared the screen on Lumia with Samsung Omnia 7 and the Nokias whites looked much whiter.
As for ICS...
"However, it doesn’t have the benefit of a year’s worth of bugfixes and thus there are times when the software is actually less stable than Honeycomb. A lot of apps have unusually long startup times and render slowly or freeze up on the screen, even if you force the GPU to render 2D operations in the “Developer Options” menu.
And then there’s the dreaded “This App is not responding” dialog which gives you the option to wait or force close the app. But sometimes you’re not so lucky and you need to shut down the OS and re-start to get a stable environment again."
On Tablets, Android 4.0 is an Ice Cream Headache
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Where you in such a hurry to spread FUD about android ICS that you didn't see the first poster was talking about Internet Connection Sharing?
Itaintrite said:
Not sure what you want people to say. The phone isn't perfect, of course. Neither is the operating system. But we didn't buy the Lumia 800 thinking that it was. You can't complain about non-existing specs if they were never advertised. You bought the phone knowing that it doesn't have a FFC or a gyroscope, or ICS. I wonder if the 800 was a rushed job of just porting WP7 to the N9.
I do agree that the camera button kinda sucks though. Too flimsy.
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I agree with you but then why Nokia didn't do a great job about replacing Gyroscope? The FFC i don't really need it... But for the Gyroscope if they were thinking that it's not something that our phone needs then why create an Augmented reality app?
For ICS Nokia representative told many and many times that it will come very very soon... Now they are only talking about battery life.
And the N9 have much better hardware exept for the processor.
Can you do me a favor? Can you try Wikitude for me? Maybe i really have a bad Lumia.
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I compared the screen on Lumia with Samsung Omnia 7 and the Nokias whites looked much whiter.
As for ICS...
"However, it doesn’t have the benefit of a year’s worth of bugfixes and thus there are times when the software is actually less stable than Honeycomb. A lot of apps have unusually long startup times and render slowly or freeze up on the screen, even if you force the GPU to render 2D operations in the “Developer Options” menu.
And then there’s the dreaded “This App is not responding” dialog which gives you the option to wait or force close the app. But sometimes you’re not so lucky and you need to shut down the OS and re-start to get a stable environment again."
On Tablets, Android 4.0 is an Ice Cream Headache
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Is this a troll?
Boburto said:
I've read that the camera button on the 800 does not have a second click by design. It is a soft 'click' as you describe.
The reasoning for this is because the second 'click' causes your hand to shake and thus the camera to shake blurring the image.
I wish i could find the article on this...
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That's really clever didn't think about that. I believe you i didn't understand why Nokia wouldn't such a stupid thing without a reason. I was complaining because, you know, sometimes you wait for the moment to arrive and with the L800 it's hard to just focus and wait.
Boburto said:
I've read that the camera button on the 800 does not have a second click by design. It is a soft 'click' as you describe.
The reasoning for this is because the second 'click' causes your hand to shake and thus the camera to shake blurring the image.
I wish i could find the article on this...
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What do you mean?
My Lumia 800 has a distinct difference between the focus mode (half-pressed) and snap mode (full pressed). The first half is much easier to push down and the second half if harder.
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What do you mean?
My Lumia 800 has a distinct difference between the focus mode (half-pressed) and snap mode (full pressed). The first half is much easier to push down and the second half if harder.
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Harder maybe but it doesn't 'click'. My trophy camera button 'clicks' when you take a picture. The OP mentioned his Lumia didn't have this 'click' and i just said it was by design. This has nothing to with how hard it is to push the button.
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I compared the screen on Lumia with Samsung Omnia 7 and the Nokias whites looked much whiter.
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I would agree with this, I'm really not sure what people are on when they say that white is not white on the Lumia. The HD7, Arc, Omnia 7 always seemed to be more cream than white to me.
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I would agree with this, I'm really not sure what people are on when they say that white is not white on the Lumia. The HD7, Arc, Omnia 7 always seemed to be more cream than white to me.
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I was reading Anandtech's review of the Galaxy nexus and he has a big section on the screen. It seems that some peoples eyes perceive the colour of the screen differently. Some people might notice an odd colour where some people observe 'white'.
I have an old Dell 20" widescreen, their first one. A lot of people complained about a 'screendoor' effect that I don't see. A friend of mine did notice it, maybe he'd complain the lumia screen is off-white too?
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I would agree with this, I'm really not sure what people are on when they say that white is not white on the Lumia. The HD7, Arc, Omnia 7 always seemed to be more cream than white to me.
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That's strange for me it's right the Galaxy's White are cream but the HD7 and the Mozart White were really White!
When i see my Lumia's White i don't need to stare at my screen for long i saw it the second i went in Mail application when i got it!
It's really better than the Galaxy S. Maybe it's true it depends on people.
I'm interested about the anand tech review.
About the camera you guys seems to agree about the fact that the second stage is hard to push. Believe me mine is really easy to push. I experienced it today i was trying to take a picture when i pushed the button it took the photo while it was focusing without me pushing hard...
Do you guys think it's a problem? When i don't even use the button it's loose it makes noise when i shake the phone is it normal?
PS: For the Whte i checked in the Diag app if it wasn't the Mail app who had this creamy effect!
Right now I'm on my 2nd Galaxy Nexus (Samsung replaced my 1st one after much messing, it popped n died)
And while I like its vanilla ICS, I'm having big issues over usability due to nothing more than its screen size of 4.65"
On my old HTC Incredible S 4" I could "dance" with my thumb and get around the OS very very quickly.
Every time I stop by a cellphone store and play with the Lumia 800 it fits perfect and I get that "dance" feeling with the ways its in my hand and the speed I can get around the OS.
I'm liking WMP 7.5 a lot.
The sticking point.
Where I live there is no broadband, so I have the true "all you can eat" data plan from "three" that included tethering.
I also have line of sight of just over 100 yards to a celltower I know is "three" and can hit 8mbps average and sometimes hit 11mbps.
Am I being foolish on planning on getting a Lumia 800 with the WiFi tether when the updates is fullt rolled out and selling the GN?
You've got to get the phone that turns you on. Once tethering is available on the Lumia... if you're still madly in love with it and can accept its shortcomings.... then go with what you love.
I have to admit that most of the phones I've ever bought have been for their design aesthetic over their function or specs.
You're also asking this question in a forum where 95% of people here use the Lumia 800, so you are going to get a pretty biased answer. I can already tell you most people will say get the Lumia.
Get the phone that suits you. If you do enjoy Windows Phone and the Lumia 800 hardware, I see no reason not to get the phone unless there is something you need on the GN/Android that Windows Phone can't accomplish for you at the moment.
Probably better to answer the question in a general forum rather than one specific to a device, but even there, you'll probably start a nice little flame war from both sides saying the other one sucks. XD
I've had iPhone 3G, HTC HD7, Galaxy S and now the Lumia in the last 2 years.
You're completely right about screen size. This must vary with the size of a persons hands but for me the maximum screen size that doesn't have usability issues is 4in like the Galaxy S.
The HD7 at 4.3in caused me the same issues as you've found.
I've had a play with the Galaxy Nexus and it's a very nice piece of kit but after using the Lumia it's clear to see that the lags are still there even on a flagship phone. The Lumia is really slick and fast. I can see why you like it. I liked it so much I ditched my Galaxy S which was running ICS.
It's the best phone I've had since my iPhone. And for my money it's a nicer piece of hardware than the current iPhone design. The OS is great too, apart from a few areas where it's lacking.
The downsides are the current issues with battery life and audio quality. You're putting trust in Nokia to sort these out with software updates. Battery life in particular is a real worry, I expect to charge every day but it's struggling to get through the day which means I don't use it as much as I'd like to.
It's not foolish to get something that will (might?) work better for you. The GN is much more powerful, but if it's too big for you to use comfortably, there is not a lot you can do.
I'm a cheap whore myself and I flop between WP/ICS/MeeGo and iOS on a daily basis. The Lumia is spectacular hardware and Mango is a fantastic OS. Grab one and play with both, each has it's own set of strengths and weaknesses.
yeah, borrowing one is the hard part.
cirian75 said:
yeah, borrowing one is the hard part.
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Ask the shop if you can test one out for a day?
they tend not to allow that
as we all know 5 minutes of fiddling in a shop is not enough
24 hours would be and ideal test.
more research required.
I've got the lumia and the GN. The form factor and build quality of the Nokia are excellent, and the interface is really smooth and a joy to use, but ...and it's a big but for me .....it desperately needs more apps. I'm not going give up on the lumia just yet, but there is no way I'd ditch my GN, or android, for the lumia at the moment.
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God i love this phone too, i used to think i might be a Android fun for a long time but i just realist that Windows Phone is good too, and the speed of Lumia 800 is really amazing.
Still no tethering
Hi all,
I agree with the previous posts. The Lumia 800 is brilliant. Smooth as silk, and quick. Software updates seem to have fixed my battery and wifi issues.
But we are now almost in March - and still no tethering, and nokia Austria says there never will be on the Lumia 800.
So you do have to factor that into your decision.
Well thats a "no" then
Silly decision
I think it is not silly.
I will quit android in the next few days (from nexus also)
Because of the apps factor, I tried to do the following:
Start to use only apps of my android (more than 200) that are in the WP market also. And I realized that I have everything I need for my work in motion.
The apps that are only in android but I want them are: skype, viber, dropbox, box.
I am sure they will be able soon, but anyway, WP has SkyDrive.
Instead most of the android apps we need just good browser.
I am sure the real software will be written for WP... soon I hope.
No Tether = no go as my tether is my broadband.
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No Tether = no go as my tether is my broadband.
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There's another post where someone said that another branch of Nokia has said that tethering will come in 2012.
So clearly, there has been no official stance on whether tethering will or won't be added to the phone, but I see no reason why it can't be added due to the phone's internals.
Nokia just needs to turn it on.
Guys im thinking of changing my phone to lumia 920 im using the HTC ONE X now... Do u recommend it?? Anyone has changed from Android to windows phone?
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I am changing (maybe)... Well I'll get my Lumia in a few days and will use it about 1-2 Weeks and then look what I like more... I'm changing from Galaxy Note. If you got any chance to buy a Lumia, with return right, than I would recommend you to do the same thing... Use it a little bit and decide yourself. Everybody has his own taste in Smartphones. So go and find yours
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As you can see from my sig I have used iOS and Android plenty. I just picked up my 920 today coming from Galaxy S3. I am happy with my decision. The 920 feels more refined, smoother, and overall a better user experience in my opinion.
The screen on the Lumia is hands down the best I have used on a smartphone. Colors are great, super bright and functional in sunlight (unlike HTC screens, and even better than Note/AMOLED screens).
The camera is awesome, software and hardware.
Nokia maps functions great so far, but I've only had the phone for 6 hours so need more time there, as well as seeing how battery and overall cell service stacks up.
So far download speeds seem to be eating my GS3 alive, but thats just from download apps so nothing conclusive.
While a little on the heavy side, its worth it. The phone feels very well constructed and SOLID.
The browser is one of the fastest mobile experiences I think I have ever experienced.
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Also you add your gmail account and it pulls in all your contacts (sync not just a copy), Gmail, and calendars. So easy as pie there.
I tried out the Note II, HTC 8X, and iPhone 5 while I was there. From research and my phone preference I pretty much had my decision down to Note II or Lumia 920 before I got there but I still gave the other 2 a little of my time as well just to be sure. The Note II looks amazing, it feels good, and is definitely a REALLY nice phone. I loved my Note but within a few seconds of holding the Note II I was sure that as much as I love the large screen, I don't really like carrying around a phone that size all the time. Also while the Note II was pretty smooth, I still felt WP8/Lumia 920 overall is a smoother experience. No lag/buggy/glitchy/etc...
2 negative experiences with the Lumia 920 so far:
Speech to text is ... bad. I've never been a big fan anyway, but this one works worse than S-Voice to say the least.
Gmail contacts sync does not appear to sync phone numbers marked as "other". IE I had a contact named Tyler, the contact, his picture all came over, but no phone number as I had his cell saved as "other". I had to go through my contacts and change any from Other to Mobile and they all came right over.
Oh and my last complaint, they didn't get any at my AT&T store in Matte Cyan which is what I really wanted, and they didn't have the wireless charging pads in stock but ordered one for me (free) and it is being shipped to my house directly within a few days. This is my own impatience, and not relative to the phone itself in anyway, but hey it was part of my overall experience .
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I have completely moved over to wIndows phone from android and have to admit the Lumia 920 is the best out there ..
I actually got bored of android after three years of flashing and rooting and all that stuff, never seemed to get satisfied and for me camera was very important and the lumia 920 camera is just awesome.
The only thing I miss from android is a native app for google + other than that windows phone syncs all my gmail contacts and emails etc easily and I have to admit the windows phone peoples hub is the best as you can add your facebook and twitter and now linkedin as well and its so perfect that I rarely use the actual facebook or twitter apps.
To cut it short windows phone does everything quicker compared to android for me and I am totally sold. but again it all depends how you use your phone so If you can get your hands on one (maybe a friends where you can play with it at least a couple of hours ) definitely try it before you go for
I had to Galaxy S3 and moved to the lumia 920 and it's just an amazing experience. Being able to try out a different OS and also just how freaking smooth the whole thing is!
It's just amazing!
Exactly!
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Just switched today from my SGS3 to Lumia 920. So far so good. The store was out of white, so I got red.
I've had two iPhones and three Android phones. So far, I'm really happy with WP8 and the 920 and am not looking back.
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It's so tempting to make the switch. Right now I have 3 android devices in the house, and as much as I've appreciated all the wonderful customization and custom ROM's, it's getting a bit old.
The one thing that has me hesitant is the ecosystem. For example, I use memotoo for contact management, as I wanted something that supported all the standards for vcard etc. I sync everything I need to an rsync account via SFTP. Photos currently sync to my account on Photobucket...
You get the point. My stuff is all over the place, and I like the freedom to do that. Now, I imagine I can find apps for most of these things... I just don't like being locked down to a single ecosystem like "live" or "google" or whatever. This is what has me holding back... plus I refuse to give AT&T my money because of their lock policy (and I am on Tmo ).
I'm definitely moving, just tired of android and can't really handle the boringness of ios, have used both and think they already look dated, esp. iOS. My problem with Android on the other hand is the ugly lag that is present even in quad core devices, heck Engadget said even the Nexus 4 occasionally lags + it has a goddamn glass backcover which will totally prevent me from buying it..
The smooth and modern ui, great map services, great camera, great new features overall and the design + development frameworks for WP8 all made me decide to switch. The question for me is whether i should pick the lumia 920 or 820. Having used both, I have to say that I find the 820 more interesting from a design perspective + it feels more comfortable in my hand and I also get all the amazing backcovers. On the other hand I don't get pureview and the really gorgeous display of the 920. We will see :highfive: Oh, and screw HTC and the 8X, it has nothing to offer compared to the Nokia devices and HTC's marketing strategy is just ugly and plain stupid. And that comes from a longtime HTC fan.
Me too me too!
I switched from a flakey GSII on at&t...
So far it's amazing... things just work... bluetooth stays connected, doesn't decide after a while to disconnect and suddenly be unable to reconnect...
The phone just works.. with the android phones I've had things have been almost there... there was lots of tweaking going on, with the gsII sometimes I'd feel it in my pocket getting hot and have to check the task manager to see what's going on...
I use exchange for email and the integration is great with that (obviously) also, the exchange admin stuff is better.. I don't have to re-enter the password whenever I use the phone, only if it's been idle for a while (I'm not sure how long yet)... I'm still using Google voice for my voicemail and MetroTalk seems to work well with that... all the other apps I "need" are available too..
...A side note, as weird as this sounds at the moment Microsoft is kind of the lesser of 3 evils
thank u all guys for ur help it is really appreciate it
I switched, and I don't regret it.
However, it came with a bit of a shock. Basically, you know how Android pretty much allows your phone to be a computer replacement, with all sorts of features from USB OTG to a Linux terminal? Forget it. Windows Phone is actually a phone first - a tool used to communicate with people. And it is AMAZING at that - you have Skype integration, good clients for your social networks.
Of course, it's a smartphone too - so you have a great camera, with a camera button - which mean that you can always access your camera from anywhere. It has Microsoft's official office suite. SkyDrive sync.
So yeah. Windows Phone isn't meant to be a computer replacement, but a companion. And it does its job really well.
Oh, and you may want to get used to multitasking being strange. Just saying.
Ive had numerous androids and 3 iphones before...i just last week purchased the lg optimus g which was a solid phone dont get me wrong it was also the fastest phone i have ever used...but after 7 days i noticed that android just seemed boring to me as well as iphone. Heard the lumia had a lot of hype so i went to pick one up and had it for about 12 hours already and love every second of it. I was worried about the apps but i seem to be doing just fine not worried at all in that aspect. but yes much more limited app selection then android and ios. But im not looking back and im looking foward to a long relationship with my lumia 920.
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SilverHedgehog said:
I switched, and I don't regret it.
However, it came with a bit of a shock. Basically, you know how Android pretty much allows your phone to be a computer replacement, with all sorts of features from USB OTG to a Linux terminal? Forget it. Windows Phone is actually a phone first - a tool used to communicate with people. And it is AMAZING at that - you have Skype integration, good clients for your social networks.
Of course, it's a smartphone too - so you have a great camera, with a camera button - which mean that you can always access your camera from anywhere. It has Microsoft's official office suite. SkyDrive sync.
So yeah. Windows Phone isn't meant to be a computer replacement, but a companion. And it does its job really well.
Oh, and you may want to get used to multitasking being strange. Just saying.
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couldnt have said it better. That was my exact thought. I was looking for a computer replacemnt but then realized i just wanted a phone with a nice os and of course little extras. Thats why windows phone 8 nailed it.
GAPY427 said:
Just switched today from my SGS3 to Lumia 920. So far so good. The store was out of white, so I got red.
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Ill trade you my 1 day old white for your red
I personally went from SGS2 to Lumia 800 which was a good experience, really. I change phones quite often though (got SGS2 on release, then N9 on release, then won a Lumia 800 around christmas, then got the SGS3 (in... july or so? whenever it was released).
I love the SGS3. It is an AMAZING phone. Screen is great, its fast as hell, looks great, even Touchwiz is quite great on it. Camera is good, fits well in the pocket, batterylife is great... its just a really really awesome device.
However...
I sold mine today. For about half what I bought it for in july.
I love the design of the Lumia 920.
I love the fact that I can charge it wirelessly, having a pad in the bedroom and a fatboy on the armrest of my couch.
I love the fact that I will have a speaker that lets me play music wirelessly by just placing my phone on it, that also charges my phone so it wont run out of juice.
I love the fact that Windows Phone 8 will integrate deeply with Windows 8 which Im enjoying on my stationary computer at the moment, and also to see how that all plays out.
I love Modern UI as done in WP8; its informative without being intrusive, its neat and tidy without being too rigid for personalization, its aestethically nice and functional.
I love the fact that the camera has a floating lens which will make my time ahead with my kittens far more enjoyable to film.
I love the fact that despide their best efforts, none of the competing phones on either platform looks half as good as Nokias unibody design (N9/L800/L900/L920).
I love the black buttons on the side contrasting the white phone with the black screen/bezel.
I love it.
for the record.
Just got my pad today, that is a sweet added bonus. I actually forgot all about it until I got home from work today and had a UPS Delivery .
I got my Lumia 920 today in white. I have to say that I am blown away by the build quality.
Overall I am enamoured with the device with regard to its smoothness, typing on the keyboard, the fantastic camera which takes photos in near dark that look as if they were taken in a fully lit room....sadly though I will be returning the device - and it really does sadden me to do so; but here are the reasons:
Facebook and Twitter integration are fine but there is no built-in support for push notifications. I have tried the official apps which suck and pretty much need completely redoing. They just give notifications when they want to. I have found an app called Rowi which makes up for deficiencies in the official Twitter route but am yet to find anything that will give me reliable Facebook notifications or the kind of thorough features available on the Android and iOS versions. On a side note, despite having Facebook Chat integration there seems to be no way to message anyone who isn't online through the Messages app, nor any notification when someone not on my friends list messages me.
Too many missing or poor apps - yes I know this has been said before a billion times but it really hits home when you start using the OS. I don't rely on many apps but there are many I 'like' to have that just aren't there.
overall notification system is a but clunky. WP8 BADLY needs a notification centre. I suppose that would involve getting reliable push notifications working first though.
I will probably come back to WP8 and this device in the future but for now as a familiar user of both iOS and Android i just find it too deficient to stick with in its current incarnation. I am really bored of both of those OS and considered buying a tablet to compliment my 920 but then, should i have to buy other devices to fill in holes in an OS when there are other devices out there that can do everything?
On a final note, anyone who doesn't feel too bothered about the things I do will surely love this device and I'm sure it will sell by the bucketloads but I don't think I'm the only person who would struggle to move to the platform without feeling many a frustration.
Good luck with this though Nokia. I hope MS put as much effort into WP8 as you have into this fantastic device.
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I got my Lumia 920 today in white. I have to say that I am blown away by the build quality.
Overall I am enamoured with the device with regard to its smoothness, typing on the keyboard, the fantastic camera which takes photos in near dark that look as if they were taken in a fully lit room....sadly though I will be returning the device - and it really does sadden me to do so; but here are the reasons:
Facebook and Twitter integration are fine but there is no built-in support for push notifications. I have tried the official apps which suck and pretty much need completely redoing. They just give notifications when they want to. I have found an app called Rowi which makes up for deficiencies in the official Twitter route but am yet to find anything that will give me reliable Facebook notifications or the kind of thorough features available on the Android and iOS versions. On a side note, despite having Facebook Chat integration there seems to be no way to message anyone who isn't online through the Messages app, nor any notification when someone not on my friends list messages me.
Too many missing or poor apps - yes I know this has been said before a billion times but it really hits home when you start using the OS. I don't rely on many apps but there are many I 'like' to have that just aren't there.
overall notification system is a but clunky. WP8 BADLY needs a notification centre. I suppose that would involve getting reliable push notifications working first though.
I will probably come back to WP8 and this device in the future but for now as a familiar user of both iOS and Android i just find it too deficient to stick with in its current incarnation. I am really bored of both of those OS and considered buying a tablet to compliment my 920 but then, should i have to buy other devices to fill in holes in an OS when there are other devices out there that can do everything?
On a final note, anyone who doesn't feel too bothered about the things I do will surely love this device and I'm sure it will sell by the bucketloads but I don't think I'm the only person who would struggle to move to the platform without feeling many a frustration.
Good luck with this though Nokia. I hope MS put as much effort into WP8 as you have into this fantastic device.
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From what I understand, all that you listed as your reasons are known shortcomings that have been stated will be addressed. I can completely understand where you are coming from though.
It is frustrating as much as anything especially since they haven't said when those problems will be fixed.
I currently have an Atrix with AT&T. While the phone is a good one, I just can't find a rom I am happy with and Moto has dropped support as well so we are kinda SOL. I have pegged the 920 as my next phone and have been reading extensively about it for weeks and weeks.
My wife (currently on an iPhone 4) and I plan to swap over to the 920 during the BlackFriday specials. I hope much of that is fixed by then, but I think that is wishful thinking....
It is good to hear what people don't like about the phone as well, as so many are still "high on the new device" that the dislikes are not too well known yet.
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The only thing I miss is the tight google integration and apps. Its a hard choice between my one x on cm10 with 4.2 gapps.
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I have a Lumia 900. It's a great phone but it is just not feeling the WP8 love.
One of the things that concern me is the larger size. The 900 is already a heavy phone. Another is the reports of camera issues.
The last thing is simply the differences between WP7 & 8, are there enough improvements to justify the swap. I already know that the one app I use most is no longer available on 7 or 8 so I’m wondering what other adjustments are in store.
Anyway, has anyone else made this swap or simply have some constructive input on this phone?
For what it's worth I couldn't get hold of a 920 so got an 820 instead, There are minor improvements over the 900 and although I consider it an upgrade from my 900 I don't think it is warranted at this time for you to switch,
Yes the 920 of course is heavier and has a bigger screen and has a higher resolution so this does sway most people along with the fact it has an amazing capable camera, The OS does not really differ much once you get past the tiles, I personally think a few more firmware updates should solve any problems for the camera and any other issues etc,
Remember this is still the first batch and it really needs ironing out and polishing before it is worth upgrading,
That aside the OS does show promise and I am sure it will eventually be able to do everything we need and more, Try one out before you decide of course.
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For what it's worth I couldn't get hold of a 920 so got an 820 instead, There are minor improvements over the 900 and although I consider it an upgrade from my 900 I don't think it is warranted at this time for you to switch,
Yes the 920 of course is heavier and has a bigger screen and has a higher resolution so this does sway most people along with the fact it has an amazing capable camera, The OS does not really differ much once you get past the tiles, I personally think a few more firmware updates should solve any problems for the camera and any other issues etc,
Remember this is still the first batch and it really needs ironing out and polishing before it is worth upgrading,
That aside the OS does show promise and I am sure it will eventually be able to do everything we need and more, Try one out before you decide of course.
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I completely disagree... and respectfully disagree. I had a 900 and switched. The improvements are subtle yet all over. Like the predictive keyboard is spot on. Voice to email... Voice to text anything is slightly more accurate. THE CAMERA! Lenses, etc. The wieght is a non issue. The camera, oh and lets not forget the camera. At times the battery life, I have an app that leaks.
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I have a Lumia 900. It's a great phone but it is just not feeling the WP8 love.
One of the things that concern me is the larger size. The 900 is already a heavy phone. Another is the reports of camera issues.
The last thing is simply the differences between WP7 & 8, are there enough improvements to justify the swap. I already know that the one app I use most is no longer available on 7 or 8 so I’m wondering what other adjustments are in store.
Anyway, has anyone else made this swap or simply have some constructive input on this phone?
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Honestly if you already have a 900 I would not bother with a 920 at the moment, IMO you won't see a major difference between 7.8 and 8 yet.
I wonder how serious MS is about WP 8, things like Skype aren't great & a good RDP client is from MS is still missing. The fact that I can have a better remote desktop experience on Android is bad, same goes with Skype.
I own a 920 and it is a nice device but its shortcomings start bugging you over time. Also the Nokia Play To DLNA app is still not ready for WP 8.
Thanks Everyone.
It looks like my wife is going to move to an 820, she prefers the size, so that will give me some insight into WP8. The kid’s mode in one of the features she’s looking forward to.
I haven’t received 7.8 on my 900 yet but I’m only keen on some of the home screen changes.
The camera on the 900 has been a disappointment, my old focus took better pics and video.
For me RDP from phone is something I did 5 years ago that doesn’t really have any value for me. A VPN client with a file explorer would be a different story though.
I use Skype on WP7 and it works pretty well, I find it less annoying than the Android version on my Flyer.
Something that caught my eye yesterday were the rumors about an aluminum version of the Lumia coming out this year. If it is anything like the N8 it would certainly have my attention.
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iam rly confused between those 2 phones
any1 tried them both? tell me ur opinion plz
thanks
I have both. I decided to get the Note 8.0 and stick with the 920 as my daily driver. There are things I love about both wp8 and the samsung note series. This allows me to have both.
If I had to choose, I would still likely choose the 920. Overall it is just a better device IMO. Of course, if apps a a serious requirement for you, android obviously still has more selections. I just find windows phone has the best UI. There was a exclusive Halo app announced today for Windows Phone 8 and RT though.
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in my opinion i choise Note 2 . Reason is Android.
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I have both. I decided to get the Note 8.0 and stick with the 920 as my daily driver. There are things I love about both wp8 and the samsung note series. This allows me to have both.
If I had to choose, I would still likely choose the 920. Overall it is just a better device IMO. Of course, if apps a a serious requirement for you, android obviously still has more selections. I just find windows phone has the best UI. There was a exclusive Halo app announced today for Windows Phone 8 and RT though.
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thanks for ur answer
can u tell me more about why u say lumia 920 better? is its screen big enough or small?as i will use it for reading e-books and surfingh the internet..is the fnt readable? and writing alot...iam not intensive gamer so it doesnt matter...........thanks in advance
The screen on the Lumia is large enough for me. The Note II screen is obviously larger but I believe the PPI is higher on the Lumia. The Lumia is the best in direct sunlight for sure, if that is a consideration.
I think if reading is your biggest concern, the note II is larger but the Lumia is sharper. Also, obviously the Lumia is more pocket friendly.
There are so many considerations that it is impossible to recommend either 100%. I have no bias toward either Android or WP8. To me, pick the best tool for the job.
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I'm not sure I would like to read eBooks on either one of them - I think both screens are too small for that use case but that of course is just my personal opinion. For surfing the internet and reading articles I never had any issues with the screen size of my 920. I prefer the 920 over my Ativ S (basically an SGS3 with WP8) for reading because the PenTile display in the Ativ S makes white backgrounds look grainier/dirtier than the RGB LCD in the 920. Of course the Note 2 has an RGB AMOLED so this might not be an issue there (never did a side by side comparison).
Battery life seems to be better on the Note 2 though - at least in standby.
What are your other requirements? Would you use the stylus on the note for drawings or writing notes? Are you into photography so that the superior camera in the 920 would be of benefit to you? Nokia has true offline navigation capability if you are traveling a lot abroad but Google Maps on the Note II has a better POI database according to many.
While i only have tried Galaxy s3, note 2, and various other "modern" android Devices only for a short time, i prefer the lumia 920.
Androids play store is a bit bigger, but that is no real problem, as wp is coming along nicely.
In daily use, you will notice that android is really lagging, and also that apps is crashing.
This is not something I have experienced with my Lumia 920.
Furthermore, Nokia provides here maps and here drive+.
These programs gives you offline maps and turn by turn navigation for most of the world.
Another advantage with wp8 is skydrive.
The phone uploads all my pictures and videos to skydrive, and on my computer and tablets, which all is running windows 8 and windows rt,
The pictures appear instantly.
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in my opinion i choise Note 2 . Reason is Android.
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i choose Lumia 920... reason is Android
I have both as well.
Note2: +: Big screen, sd card, removable battery, tons of software in android, highly customizable interface, rootable and customs roms
-: a bit unwieldy, tough to see in sunlight, looks kind of cheap, no camera button
Lumia 920: +: Premium feel and design, smaller screen if you want that, don't need to mess around with settings much, simpler interface, better camera
-: Limited software, heavy for some, no sd card, no removable battery, camera button, all buttons on right
Do you want it as primarily a phone or as a phablet is the question.
I'm finding the limitations of wp8 becoming increasingly annoying. You may want to consider the galaxy s4 and the htc one which are closer in size to the 920.
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You may want to consider the htc
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i choose Lumia 920... reason is Android
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Nice one. I agree.
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Nice one. I agree.
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I bought my wife the HTC One (M7) and I don't regret it being her 1st Android device...it runs flawless and the display is the best I've ever seen on any device and her being in the medical profession Android's apps in her field made sense. As for me, I don't play games and I am a full-time college student and Windows Phone does exactly what I need it to do and despite it's limitations there isn't a 3rd party or Homebrew app that did a lesser job than the branded apps. We have T-Mobile where our kids live and barely an AT&T signal and where we live right out no T-Mobile whatsoever and Straight Talk (AT&T) HSPA+ in a place I thought we'd never get it, so VoIP is important which is my one pet peeve with WP. Skype gets it done but it just pisses me off that the brain trust at Microsoft failed and betrayed those who grew up with Windows Mobile through the WP7.x upgrade and left us in the cold with only a Start Menu and dead development today. It's easier said than done to buy a new smart phone every year.
Over the last years, I usually have bought 3-4 smartphones each year, one iPhone back in 2009, and after that, several android phones.
My first android phone was the htc desire, a phone with 150 Mb internal memory.
I regret ever buying it. I also had a lg optimus 3d, a phone with several nice features, but it still had that poor operating system called android.
So, eventually I got the Lumia 900, a wp 7-phone. I really got to enjoy wp, so now I have the Lumia 920. This phone is simply the best phone I ever had. I am now waiting for the rumoured Nokia eos.
I am convinced that it will be worth the waiting.
But for now, I am convinced that my 920 will suffice,
And I will without hesitation recommend this phone to anybody who is asking.
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Over the last years, I usually have bought 3-4 smartphones each year, one iPhone back in 2009, and after that, several android phones.
My first android phone was the htc desire, a phone with 150 Mb internal memory.
I regret ever buying it. I also had a lg optimus 3d, a phone with several nice features, but it still had that poor operating system called android.
So, eventually I got the Lumia 900, a wp 7-phone. I really got to enjoy wp, so now I have the Lumia 920. This phone is simply the best phone I ever had. I am now waiting for the rumoured Nokia eos.
I am convinced that it will be worth the waiting.
But for now, I am convinced that my 920 will suffice,
And I will without hesitation recommend this phone to anybody who is asking.
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I will suggest Lumia 920, and if display size is not a concern go for iphone it has apps and performance.
Don't go for Android, i have S4 even it lags a lot of times and Random reboots comes free with Android, but i never had any lag in my lumia 920 or iphone 5
WP8 is far better then Android
I've owned a Galaxy SI, SII and SIII (which I still use). I picked up a 920 for testing apps my company is developing on W8, and although initially I enjoyed the 920, it now spends most of its time in my computer bag, while I'm back to using the S3. Why? Severely limited apps, especially in the tools/utilities area, infuriating restrictions on music player apps and supporting utilities, no call blocking apps, etc.
I like to tinker- this phone is not for my kind of consumer. It's great for those who have no desire to customize- smooth as butter and easy to use interface, great camera, competent music player, excellent battery life. But I want more than that- I want, for example, an app with a 4-band parametric EQ, a themed, customized UI, ROM control and a custom kernel to overclock/undervolt/manage memory, wifi tethering, etc...
I have both. Would never replace Note 2 with any phone. I like huge display. Note 2 offers me better readability, easier documents handling, editing and sending. I like the fact that I can customise keyboard (using SwiftKey), widgets, fast access to applications.
Lumia 920 has great navigation. Great camera.
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Note2 is good but android is still buggy
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I have both and chose the 920 for two reasons: email on WP much nicer and I am now bored with flashing custom roms and tweaking launchers, too much time wasted. Android has a way of sucking you into endless process of perfecting your phone (so much so you forget why you need a phone in the first place!)
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I have both and chose the 920 for two reasons: email on WP much nicer and I am now bored with flashing custom roms and tweaking launchers, too much time wasted. Android has a way of sucking you into endless process of perfecting your phone (so much so you forget why you need a phone in the first place!)
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I very much agree with you, if you have a lot of spare time or if you just want to kill time and if your phone is everything for you then go for Android, if you want a smartphone that works as a smartphone out of the box go for WP8 or iOS
abokorayem said:
hi
iam rly confused between those 2 phones
any1 tried them both? tell me ur opinion plz
thanks
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GO for Lumia 920. I recently switched form Galaxy note 2 and i am really enjoying it. All the necessary applications are available in WP8 and most importantly i am impressed with the smoothness and lag free interface of wp8. The lumia 920 is handy and you can use it one hand only , while with note 2 you have to use both hands.
If you ask me , go for lumia 920 !
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tangiers said:
I have both and chose the 920 for two reasons: email on WP much nicer and I am now bored with flashing custom roms and tweaking launchers, too much time wasted. Android has a way of sucking you into endless process of perfecting your phone (so much so you forget why you need a phone in the first place!)
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Exactly true. thats the reason i switched from note 2 to lumia 920
Why not have both. I use lumia 920 for day to day activities n note2 for the browsing fun games etc...
Jotted from Note II near you.