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As a new person to root I have another question that I need help with. After rooting my EVO I somehow did a factory reset and wiped all data from my phone. That gives me around 400mb. After flashing synergy rom and adding a apps I noticed my internal phone storage was 75mb remaining out of 250mb. I have no where near the amount of apps I had before with less space. So my question is, does the ROM file take up internal phone space once flashed? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks a lot for your help.
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Eros2180 said:
As a new person to root I have another question that I need help with. After rooting my EVO I somehow did a factory reset and wiped all data from my phone. That gives me around 400mb. After flashing synergy rom and adding a apps I noticed my internal phone storage was 75mb remaining out of 250mb. I have no where near the amount of apps I had before with less space. So my question is, does the ROM file take up internal phone space once flashed? Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks a lot for your help.
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On sense ROMs, more files are made in the /data partition, due to the greater amount of lib files and other things created by Sense. When you install one app it makes data in /data/data and /data/dalvik , and sense has many apps so the space used goes straight to hell in a basket. But use a Vanilla Rom, and space should go down a bit...Use disk analyses to see what's using the space.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage&hl=en
Thanks ill try that. I'll start looking for a vanilla ROM. Any particular one to use with 2.3? I just rooted with the revolutionary. Thanks again.
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Thanks ill try that. I'll start looking for a vanilla ROM. Any particular one to use with 2.3? I just rooted with the revolutionary. Thanks again.
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I don't actually know which ROMs are avail for Evo, maybe you can use MIUI/CM7 or the most popular AOSP? If you choose to use Sense, just remove some apps from the /system partition.
along with resetting the phone to "factory defaults", did you wipe cache and dalvik cache 3 times? I used CWM the other day on my phone to install a ROM and forgot to wipe cache also... kept getting "device is low on memory" errors. Wiped cache and dalvik 3 times, installed the ROM again, everything worked perfectly.
Why 3 times? Extreme redundance LOL. Once is enough. Wiped means its wiped doing it two more times is mildly retarded.
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ROM: Synergy rls318 (I want aosp)
I did wipe them before installing the Rom, yes. I just tried to make a backup last night to try some new things and my backup keeps failing now.
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Eros2180 said:
I did wipe them before installing the Rom, yes. I just tried to make a backup last night to try some new things and my backup keeps failing now.
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Could be bad blocks on the MTD/Nand chip? If the block are bad then the ROM might not be restore-able anymore. or the backup could be bad, try another ROM instead.
My SD card was full so that's why the backups failed. I had no idea the files were so big. Now still in search for another Rom. No luck with finding the vanilla Rom.
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How big should the back up be mine was 1.7gb should I factory/reset, wipe cache and Davlik then do the back up? I don't mind it being 1.7gb just want to make sure I have a solid backup before I flash a ROM?
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How big should the back up be mine was 1.7gb should I factory/reset, wipe cache and Davlik then do the back up? I don't mind it being 1.7gb just want to make sure I have a solid backup before I flash a ROM?
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Mine are typically right at 1 GB (or right below it). I'm not sure what the point of the backup would be if you factory reset prior to lol. I'm not certain what would cause one to be that large.
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Mine are typically right at 1 GB (or right below it). I'm not sure what the point of the backup would be if you factory reset prior to lol. I'm not certain what would cause one to be that large.
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If you have 300 apps like I do, that could be it
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If you have 300 apps like I do, that could be it
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That's why I question it, I have like 20 apps installed. I do have like 10 GO Launcher apps. I never did wipe cache and Davlik after installing Entropy kernel to get CWM. Is that safe to do now on a stock ROM with no boot issues?
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"Mine are typically right at 1 GB (or right below it). I'm not sure what the point of the backup would be if you factory reset prior to lol. I'm not certain what would cause one to be that large."
I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems after installing a custom ROM I don't care if it is with no apps easy to reinstall apps then reflashing Entropy Stock/Root and still having to install apps.....
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Originally Posted by Simba501
I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems after installing a custom ROM I don't care if it is with no apps easy to reinstall apps then reflashing Entropy Stock/Root and still having to install apps.....
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Why do you need a Nandroid Backup?
Ans: you already provided the answer in your post ""I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems ..."
It is for your own, you can do nb once for every hour or once a year, it's up to you.
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Why do you need a Nandroid Backup?
Ans: you already provided the answer in your post ""I just want a safe back up on my SDcard if I ever have any problems ..."
It is for your own, you can do nb once for every hour or once a year, it's up to you.
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Confused..... Please read my OP... That response was to Simba501 why I would "factory/reset" Then nandroid my first nandroid was 1.7gb just trying to figure out why it was so Big when most people's are 300mb to 1gb.
Bump.... Matt , Wink anyone else, can I clear cache/dalvik in CWM on my stock ROM with no problems? I'm trying to get my Nandroid under 1g? Something doesn't seem right it being 1.7gb?
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Update: After looking in the CWM backup the file sizes are.
.android_secure.vfat.tar 885mb
data.ext4.tar 322mb
system.ext4.tar 462mb
Any ideas what I can do to get the Nandroid file size smaller?
You've got 800+ mb of apps and data installed on the internal SD. The .android_secure file is well, a backup of the entire .android_secure folder. When you go to Manage Apps and tell the phone to "move to SD card" (some apps just install there on their own) this is where they go.
My backups are about the same size as yours but I've got like 102 apps installed, and quite a few are 20+ mb games.
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Mine generally run 1.2 gb. 150 apps installed.
My first backup was 730mb my latest backup is 1.58gb eel
Cwm finally put my backup on the external_SD instead of the internal USB sd
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You've got 800+ mb of apps and data installed on the internal SD. The .android_secure file is well, a backup of the entire .android_secure folder. When you go to Manage Apps and tell the phone to "move to SD card" (some apps just install there on their own) this is where they go.
My backups are about the same size as yours but I've got like 102 apps installed, and quite a few are 20+ mb games.
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I did move some games to the SD card but then I factory reset I did tick "format USB storage" before I rooted it then flashed Entroys kernel. I only have like 20 apps installed now. So I guess there are apps stored in some old folder I have searched all over for the folder or folders can't find them anywhere..... Any help where to look?
That much data with that few apps suggest maybe you have some video or music files getting lumped in there. Hard to say for sure, but I agree 1.7 seems like way too much. Try installing TiBu and back up your apps, then take a look and see how big the backups are. This might provide some more granular clues. I highly suggest the TiBu pro batch feature... Save u a lot of time in general
I am in need of freeing up space on my device. Out of the 16Gb I only have 2.xGb available now. I do have at least 2 backups on my phone, and 2 helium backups. Looking at the math, they should not take up that much room:
Stock.zip 1.7G
slim.zip 1.6G
Helium1 642MB
Helium2 733MB
= 4.65G
So that really doesn't make any sense to me. I reviewed my apps and I had a lot of google play cached, but I deleted all of that data through app management. So I can't figure what is taking up all of this space.
1. if I delete my backups from the device, which I have transferred to my computer, and then paste them back in, will they work? Will they work if I format the phone?
2. In reality I would have no problem formatting the phone to wipe everything and flash a rom again via OTG cable through CWM. However, I am at a loss as to what selection(s) in CWM I make to fix my problem.
1) there is actually only 11-12G actually available to the user, on all DNA's, on all ROMs
2) you can move back ups around. i keep a copy of mine in dropbox and on my computer, but never on my phone.
3) you have to have apps, app cache, music, pics, ect to have such little space. you need to look at your /data partition and your /sdcard partition when calculating space.
4) wth is helium?
Helium used to be carbon backup. But I'll look at my directories and review the space used
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Ok. So I was able to free up a bunch of space and removed a single backup, leaving stock.zip on board in case of crashing and need of assistance with Verizon though 99% unlikely to happen. I was having major issues finding where helium stored its data because it is blocked from the user. But luckily the Storage option in >Settings>Storage in slimbean is much greater in depth than I'm used to. So I was able to detect where a lot of my data was coming from which was various sources, but some were helium/Carbon, and also old DL files of CM that were sitting around.
But for the sake of knowing, If I did want to wipe everything through CWM and format, would I choose everything? or just a single option.
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Helium used to be carbon backup. But I'll look at my directories and review the space used
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Ok. So I was able to free up a bunch of space and removed a single backup, leaving stock.zip on board in case of crashing and need of assistance with Verizon though 99% unlikely to happen. I was having major issues finding where helium stored its data because it is blocked from the user. But luckily the Storage option in >Settings>Storage in slimbean is much greater in depth than I'm used to. So I was able to detect where a lot of my data was coming from which was various sources, but some were helium/Carbon, and also old DL files of CM that were sitting around.
But for the sake of knowing, If I did want to wipe everything through CWM and format, would I choose everything? or just a single option.
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well its been a while since i've used CMW, and im on TWRP. but it depends on how far down you want to format. if you want to just do a regular wipe, and reload a new rom then the usual wipe is your /system, /data, /cache, /dalvik, and /boot. im not sure what CWM calls them, but those are the usual partitions. just make sure you have a new rom ready or a backup. if you wanted to reformat even FURTHER than that, you could flash the stock rocovery and do a fac reset. but thats only if you are have major issue across all roms.
OK. Thanks for the response. I'm going to research why so many people tend to prefer twrp now.
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OK. Thanks for the response. I'm going to research why so many people tend to prefer twrp now.
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i think one of the main factors was that it works with some ROMs OTA functions, especially Viper roms, which are very popular. myself, i just wanted to try it out lol
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OK. Thanks for the response. I'm going to research why so many people tend to prefer twrp now.
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If u came from a Rom that was on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 to a Rom that is 4.2.2 then check the /sdcard directory.. not sdcard0. I think its also in data/media. Not sdcard/data/media but striaght data/media. Use a root file manager and if u still have files in there, then delete everything except the 0/ folder. Happened to me a couple times and I freed up around 2-4 gb everytime
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If u came from a Rom that was on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 to a Rom that is 4.2.2 then check the /sdcard directory.. not sdcard0. I think its also in data/media. Not sdcard/data/media but striaght data/media. Use a root file manager and if u still have files in there, then delete everything except the 0/ folder. Happened to me a couple times and I freed up around 2-4 gb everytime
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I looked into that and saw what you were referring to. My only concern is that data/media is where my stock.zip recovery is saved. I'm not sure if I'm quite ready to remove that from my device yet. Also, do I need any of the CWM stuff found in data/media still? I am not referring to data/media/0.
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I looked into that and saw what you were referring to. My only concern is that data/media is where my stock.zip recovery is saved. I'm not sure if I'm quite ready to remove that from my device yet. Also, do I need any of the CWM stuff found in data/media still? I am not referring to data/media/0.
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Update: I'm glad I checked. I performed a backup of my current rom and CWM placed it in /data/media/clockworkmod. So this is an active directory that CWM is using for my backups. So I don't believe I'll be deleting the /data/media/clockworkmod directory. But will then anything else be impacted if deleted?
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Update: I'm glad I checked. I performed a backup of my current rom and CWM placed it in /data/media/clockworkmod. So this is an active directory that CWM is using for my backups. So I don't believe I'll be deleting the /data/media/clockworkmod directory. But will then anything else be impacted if deleted?
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Oh if you still have your backups there then dont delete that cwm folder.. but try and delete anything else that seems useless. What Rom are you on now?
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Oh if you still have your backups there then dont delete that cwm folder.. but try and delete anything else that seems useless. What Rom are you on now?
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On slimbean. The remaining 4.1 files are from stock. All roms i have used are 4.2.
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On slimbean. The remaining 4.1 files are from stock. All roms i have used are 4.2.
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Alright I'm pretty sure its the data/media/android folder that has a pretty good chunk of memory. Try and delete that. It wont mess up your current setup because your android folder is on the sdcard 0
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Also if you took pictures, downloaded stuff, or have music when you were on stock, then dont touch folders like dcim, download, music, pictures, ect. I personally move all my files when I switch between 4.1 to 4.2 fro. Sdcard to sdcard0. If you want to do that use a computer to make sure it transfered right because I used es filemanager once and it said it transfered but instead all of it was lost. I think someone made a .zip file that could transfer everything but I can't remember
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Alright I'm pretty sure its the data/media/android folder that has a pretty good chunk of memory. Try and delete that. It wont mess up your current setup because your android folder is on the sdcard 0
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Also if you took pictures, downloaded stuff, or have music when you were on stock, then dont touch folders like dcim, download, music, pictures, ect. I personally move all my files when I switch between 4.1 to 4.2 fro. Sdcard to sdcard0. If you want to do that use a computer to make sure it transfered right because I used es filemanager once and it said it transfered but instead all of it was lost. I think someone made a .zip file that could transfer everything but I can't remember
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Sounds good. In regards to the pictures. I believe you posted about that somewhere else before, or someone else did. I saw the issues. I use dropbox and don't have any music on my device other than google music cache. So I cleared a lot of that stuff up. thanks for your help.
So since many ROM's have moved from Android 4.1.x to Android 4.2.x and beyond, I've decided to create this thread to aid users and stop the multiple "Where did my data go?" "Where are my files?" ect... question threads.
A very brief explanation: When Google introduced Android 4.2.x, it brought a new feature. This new feature was intended for multiple accounts on a single device and was primarily for tablets.
However the downside was that each user needed his/her own space on the device storage, so what google has done is set it up so under the "/data/media" (referred to as sdcard in Android 4.1.x) there are now additional directories for each user. "/0, /1, /2, ect...
So when YOU switched to a ROM from Android 4.1.x to 4.2.x all of your data that was under "/data/media" is still there except your phone is now pointed to "/data/media/0" which is why you can't see any of your old data.
When you look at the Storage page under Settings it will say it's full (if you had a lot of stuff already before) and only a few things under each section.
What you can do is download a free file explorer and go in to "/data/media" and move all of your old contents into the "/0" folder/directory and that will "fix" that.
I deleted my entire storage and that freed it up. It also got rid of all the crap that I had and didn't even need or use. If you don't mind losing your data you can do that as well.
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I deleted my entire storage and that freed it up. It also got rid of all the crap that I had and didn't even need or use. If you don't mind losing your data you can do that as well.
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Hi I'm new here on xda and new to the DNA how do I delete my storage?
I figured it out!! thanks for the help
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I figured it out!! thanks for the help
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would y mind sharing how to delete the memory on the dna? ive factory reset and nothing gets deleted of my internal sd.. I have no problem stating from scratch just cant figure out how to do that im having an issue it says I have 4.6 gigs of misc. where is it?? any help will be appreciated. I flashed from stock to viperDNA and idk if I just didn't notice it before but I only have like five gigs of available space.
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would y mind sharing how to delete the memory on the dna? ive factory reset and nothing gets deleted of my internal sd.. I have no problem stating from scratch just cant figure out how to do that im having an issue it says I have 4.6 gigs of misc. where is it?? any help will be appreciated. I flashed from stock to viperDNA and idk if I just didn't notice it before but I only have like five gigs of available space.
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I booted into recovery and went to the wipe/wipe internal sdcard then reboot the phone.
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New builds are finally up. Instead of posting links to each build I'm sharing the entire folder. Builds starting from today have their md5 sum text file uploaded because I just discovered it was there
It's just the usual omni sync. For 3G users, this is probably the first *working* build with the tinted bar feature that omni put in the rom.
Enjoy everyone.
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Thank!
Keep up the good work!!
I've edited the thread settings so anybody can post even if you have less than 10 posts. I don't think the 10 post rule was in effect when I first joined. However, at that time you had to register to download... which is what my account was originally for.
OK. I have one I posted elsewhere, but let's see if I can get an answer here.
My cache is full. All 450(ish)MB. I can clear cache but it just fulls up again. I have a lot of apps, but after about 1/3 of them are installed the cache gets full and I get Package file invalid errors.
Is it just because I have a lot of apps or is something else going on? Is it possible to repartition (with or without data loss, I don't care) or should the cache be clearing itself out?
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OK. I have one I posted elsewhere, but let's see if I can get an answer here.
My cache is full. All 450(ish)MB. I can clear cache but it just fulls up again. I have a lot of apps, but after about 1/3 of them are installed the cache gets full and I get Package file invalid errors.
Is it just because I have a lot of apps or is something else going on? Is it possible to repartition (with or without data loss, I don't care) or should the cache be clearing itself out?
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You need to delete the init.d script that moves dalvik cache to /cache, then wipe cache and dalvik and let your tab rebuild the dalvik cache in its original place. This is because you have too many apps and the dalvik cache has completely filled the cache partition.
I found system/init.d folder with some files in it. Where is the actual script file? I have hidden files enabled in ES Explorer.
Or am I deleting the scripts in that folder?
Is there a longer term fix? I've never run into this before. Not that I'm an expert, but I've loaded custom ROMs on various Nooks and never had this issue even with all the apps. Is it just because MONI uses a different partition scheme?
There is a file named along the lines of dalvik cache or dcache in /etc/init.d, I forgot the actual name. You can open the script and check if it contains something like
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bind /cache /data/dalvik-cache
Delete that file.
The reason is that because our tab has an extra chunk of space in /cache just sitting there collecting dust, AAcount decided to move the dalvik cache there to save a few hundred mb of space in /data. It won't do any harm for tabs that doesn't have that many apps. But for your case, you had too many apps and used up all the space in cache, therefore you have to move them back to the original place.
This is just a personal addition from AAcount, you won't find this script in other ROMs.
Once everything is done you can check the size of /data/dalvik-cache if you're curious to know your dalvik cache's size.
#!/system/bi/sh
rm -r/data/dalvik-cache/*
busybox mount -o bind /cache/dalvik-cache /data/dalvik-cache
Thats 98dcache file
And that didn't work. I will look at more files tonight when I get home.
Got it. I guess ES Explorer couldn't delete the file. I used Root Browser to delete the file and cleared the cache and it worked.
Thanks so much!
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Got it. I guess ES Explorer couldn't delete the file. I used Root Browser to delete the file and cleared the cache and it worked.
Thanks so much!
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Yeah, not having much luck. It's probably something I'm doing, but the performance is awful now. I swear it wasn't bad before. Is it possible that mapping thing was to help performance and that's why it's not working well now?
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Yeah, not having much luck. It's probably something I'm doing, but the performance is awful now. I swear it wasn't bad before. Is it possible that mapping thing was to help performance and that's why it's not working well now?
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Don't think so. It was just to save space AFAIK