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Hi
I have a pretty serious problem with the battery life on my tg01! I've read the other threads here and at Modaco on the battery problems but thought I'd raise it again. I have a mugen battery now (1100) but am barely getting a couple of hours use. The battery indicator gets stuck and can go from 100% to 40 suddenly, before a few minutes later switching off. I have the original wm 6.1 rom and spb mobile shell 3.5, but the problem was there still when that was uninstalled. I can leave it charging overnight and the battery can suddenly drop and be dead in a few hours.
I'd have thought mugen battery, although only a 1100 one would have made the difference, but there's something definitely wrong because it should not be that bad!!!
What do you suggest is the best thing to do?? Will a different rom definitely solve it? or will it be down to one of the numerous programs I've installed? Or something else? A faulty phone?? It's a problem others definitely have, but is there a single working solution??
cheers!!
as far as i know battery life is a problem with all tg01's, atleast i have the same problem. the huge screen takes alot of power, add 3g or wifi and your phones going to be dead within 2 hours ! one way to overcome this is to make sure you disable data connections when not needed and reduce the backlight settings. i've been able to get over 24 hours using this method but if you want longer life the only real solution im aware of is to get the 2600 mugen battery.
EDIT: I should also mention sense and other memory hungry apps ie opera will effect battery life greatly, infact i find if i use sense my phone can be dead within 8 hours and thats with minimal useage. Constant use of opera will have the phone drained in a matter of an hour and a half.
As for a rom solving it, i dont really think its tied to a rom in anyway but you may want to try noskers rom - i find this one to be the most stable and battery life definately seems longer but i may be imagining that !
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
maciek90 said:
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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will try that definitely. it happens with the new mugen battery too however.
The Power Saving Settings I use are CPU medium (have tried low and high too), limit CPU speed for battery (tried on and off options) Wifi power consumption, restrict sleep mode OFF, Enable Wifi during sleep mode to OFF, backlight very low. Adjust backlight automatically OFF, 30 seconds backlight timer, 1 minute device sleep timer.
I am guessing there is a rogue program using up the CPU constantly running down the battery. Have you tried a hard reset? (probably a good idea to upgrade the ROM while your at it )
Well I've tried disabling the battery device in task manager. I'm not sure that made a difference, but at least I wasn't able to see the meter jump around..
a hard reset may well sort it, and may end up doing that. I can't see any high intensity CPU programs. anything else? will google latitude suck up the battery this quick?
One other thing which has started recently, which may persuade me to hard reset is that the blue led light flashes long after an sms has arrived. a soft reset stops this, but it will start again when another sms comes through. I've tried one such notification reset program on this forum but its made no difference.
what can be done to stop this?
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I should really have considered another post really called niggles I need to sort out on my TG01.
But how can I stop the screen going off immediately when a call comes in? I'd rather it waits say 10 secs then go off. the options in pocket toolman do not seem to work. I need the screen on a bit because often I switch to speaker straight away.
When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
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When I plug the charger in the TG01 the battery will charge up to 100%. The charging process will then stop (orange light turns off and never goes on again).
If my backlight or wifi is turned on, or anything else is running, the battery will start draining back down, but the charging process will not re-start. The battery will display 100% full as it might somehow detect the charger is plugged-in (?).
When I start using it, although the battery might have drained down to 40%, it will show 100% then suddenly jump to show the actual battery level.
I used to charge it overnight with backlight at full level and it would go from 100% to 0% after using it for a minute or two in the morning. I couldn't turn the device back on, even with charger plugged back in because the battery was so empty.
The trick is to turn off the backlight / wifi when it's done charging, or if you charge overnight, turn it completely off so it doesn't drain the battery when it's done charging.
hope this helps
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This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
Well it's bizzarre... the battery meter on the tg01 is certainly pretty dodgy.
with the flashing leds, what does anyone suggest? is there a way to change the led notifications back to default?
And regarding the screen going off immediately when a call comes in, it looks like there's no fix - similar threads still have no answer, unless anyone has more suggestions?
Update: I have done a full hard reset and a wm6.5 upgrade but the battery issues are still here. Has everyone who has had this issue taken it back to orange? It barely lasts 5 hours the battery.
Anything else at all to suggest???
BiG K said:
This is not true. When the battery charges up fully, the orange charging light is extinguished to let you know it has finished charging, however the battery is still supplied with power to keep it fully charged. I know this because I use GPS alot on the phone and when it's fully charged using the car charger, it will still be 100%.
Try hard resetting your phone too. If it doesn't work, then there is something wrong with your phone!
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I stand corrected.
While this was true before and had tested a few times with two different TG01 both with Orange UK stock ROM, I have retested it now and it does not happen anymore, but I have flashed a new ROM...
Apologies for the confusion.
Hi all
I was reading this thread and preferred to add my 'query' here rather than start a new one.
My TG01 has an original WM 6.5 rom minus the SPB Shell. I haven't experiences any negative experiences yet except for the fact that I have often heard about charging the battery for 8 hours etc and charging it with phone off which I always do except on few occasions I connect with USB cable to my pc /laptop...in my case I will charge my set with the toshiba wall charger that came with the set and orange LED will illuminate a few seconds after charger is plugged-in..from there onwards the orange LED will stay illuminated for maximum 3 to 4 hours and then will turn-off. I am not having any battery problems except for the usual battery drain depending on usage and apps but nothing unusual.
I'd like to know if this is normal? Is anybody else experiencing this? Not charging more than 3 to 4 hours (orange LED turning off after 3 to 4 hours).
I would appreciate some help on this 'doubt'
Thanks
I think it's problem with driver and charging akku. I have custom rom with 6.5.5
and when i charge my akku when it is on 20 % after 20-30 min shows me that 90 % full... After 1 1/2 hour akku full charged.
Greets ALcAtRas
maciek90 said:
Get Task Manager, go to tab "Devices" and stop device "BAT1". Battery indicator will not work, but you can use tg01 till battery fully discharge. After power off (there will be no "shutting down" screen) plug charger immediately.
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
I've heard about battdrvr.dll modifications for other PPCs to use with higher capacity batteries, but couldn't find anything for tg01.
What Power Saving Settings do you use?
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is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
olyloh6696 said:
is this a solution to the 20% wifi problem?
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Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
Pere said:
Well. it's not the solution, but this procedure can be a useful roundabout to access to wifi, or allow you to take a vital picture when you really need it and your battery is under 20% charge.
Imagine that you must send urgently a picture and you can't do it because someone from Toshiba decided this stupid limitation when you are at the end of the battery life.. following the maciek90's procedure, you can save this limitation and drain your battery up to the 0% if you want
Bravo maciek90! and thank you
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thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
olyloh6696 said:
thanks for the info Pere!
guys, also another thing i learnt from my physics class is that putting a recharegable battery in the freezer for 1 hr, somehow give it longer battery! I tried this on my tg01 battery, it strangely worked , or it was all in my mind!
you've gotta make sure the battery isnt wet from condensation when you put itback in the phone! my battery last slightly longer. i dont do it often, only once every now and again... try at your own risk!
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...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
Pere said:
...the duracell bunny was a penguin
Not, seriously, I'll try it and if it works..but all it sounds incredible!
Best regards
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Aha
I seriously warn you be careful of condensarion!
maciek90 said:
By this you will use all the capacity of battery, so you can determine if it's battery problem or tg01 battery level measuring circuit.
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I definitely think it is either level measuring circuit problem or battery driver itself - not too big power consumption.
I can repeat without any problems situation where battery level suddenly decreases about 20-30% . I noticed it only during internet operations via GSM so utilizing radio. Why , I do not know . How to fix it ? I do not know yet but it is enough to restart system so that battery indicator start to show correct value - until next failure .
I thought when bad indication occures it would be enough to stop-start baterry driver using way You described. It does not work. Stopping driver cause battery indicator shows unknown level. Starting driver not fix it. Battery indicator still shown unknown value. Only restart fix it. It should not behave this way.
Maybe problem is not in driver but top bar of today screen when battery indicator exists, should have any kind of reset too?
BTH. What software is responsible for displaying battery indicator ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Today morning next described previously error concerned with GSM radio.
I had GSM radio switched off in the night and phone in sleep mode.
Morning, when I set phone to operational mode , battery indicator showed 50% - the same as yesterday evening.
When I switched GSM radio on, battery indicator suddenly showed 30% and none phone operation could change it. Only system restart caused battery indicator started to show correct value again - 50%
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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yes! i am not the only one! recently i got a data plan for my tg01. when i use the data connection for 1-2 minutes, the battery drops 10% and it will stay at its false value until i soft reset. i thought that the problem was with the rom that i was using but i guess im wrong. what ROM are you on? it is very annoying and i have to constantly reset my phone. i have done some test, and if i keep using it, on data, the battery could conpletely go dead like when it is out of power, then when i power back in it is back to its true value. any solutions?!
I recently dropped my S2 into water for a few seconds and following a week of drying out I turned it on to find that everything is working fine. The only problem I have is that the phone thinks it is at 100% charge after being plugged in for a few seconds. On the first charge I left it plugged in whilst showing 100% and overnight it managed to charge fully so that the phone worked for a full day.
Today however, it reaches 100% (after a few seconds) and seems to stop charging any further. I can use the phone whilst it is plugged in but as soon as I unplug it shuts down due to no power.
Is there a way to reset the battery stats or fix this? I'm currently running 2.3.4 stock.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
Reset battery stats .
As you dont know the basics try Battery Calibration from the market .
jje
That requires root access... is there no way to address this without deviating from official firmware?
Try pull out the battery and put it in the hot water cupboard overnight (or blow dry it, but not too hot - it is a battery afterall), then try it again. Could be related to the calibration chip on the battery...
Battery calibration
It has been mentioned in several XDA forums that the SGS2 has a power supervisor chip that manages calibration automatically and doesn't need battery cycling.
You have probably sustained damage to your phone. It wont cost much to try a new battery though but it is a long shot.
Regards,
John.
I'm guessing it's a hardware fault with the charging circuit. I don't suppose anyone can recommend a good repair shop in the UK?
Hi, I am sorry I am using your thread to post a personal question.
I would recommend you to try a different battery though.
The problem I have is similar, but not the same.
When the phone sounds that it has full charged, I unpluged it and it immeadiately changes from 100% to 99% or 98%. After that it uncharges as normal.
What could be the reason?
I calibrated it with the battery calibrator. Also took out the battery after full charge and plug it back on. With no results.
What could I do?
almorsol said:
Hi, I am sorry I am using your thread to post a personal question.
I would recommend you to try a different battery though.
The problem I have is similar, but not the same.
When the phone sounds that it has full charged, I unpluged it and it immeadiately changes from 100% to 99% or 98%. After that it uncharges as normal.
What could be the reason?
I calibrated it with the battery calibrator. Also took out the battery after full charge and plug it back on. With no results.
What could I do?
You could have searched and read all the posts that say this is normal behaviour .
jje
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For anyone who's interested, I've managed to fix the problem by doing a full factory reset. To do this I powered up the phone into recovery mode (start whilst holding power, home and volume up) and performed both factory reset and and cleared the cache. Now appears to working fine.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Hey Guys and Gals
This morning my phone was completely drained so i plugged it into the wall plug to charge up. However it did not turn on and begin charging until i did a battery pull.
When it began charging, there was the little yellow triangle (normally there when my device has been drained). A couple of minutes after, the battery began charging BUT it was nearly full
So i switched on the device, went to Applications>Settings>About Phone>Status
There the battery read 96% and charging from AC. When i unplugged it, the numbers began literally jumping backwards and the phone died within two minutes.
I tried charging again and had to do a battery pull again. For good measure, i did a factory reset but the issue was there still, only, when it is plugged in, the battery slowly DECREASES :S maybe like 1% every 2 minutes.
Can someone please help me and let me know if it is a battery issue or a phone hardware issue itself?
Im running Gingerbread btw (downgraded from ICS about 3 weeks now because it sucked....and i missed GB lol)
crackerjr582 said:
Hey Guys and Gals
This morning my phone was completely drained so i plugged it into the wall plug to charge up. However it did not turn on and begin charging until i did a battery pull.
When it began charging, there was the little yellow triangle (normally there when my device has been drained). A couple of minutes after, the battery began charging BUT it was nearly full
So i switched on the device, went to Applications>Settings>About Phone>Status
There the battery read 96% and charging from AC. When i unplugged it, the numbers began literally jumping backwards and the phone died within two minutes.
I tried charging again and had to do a battery pull again. For good measure, i did a factory reset but the issue was there still, only, when it is plugged in, the battery slowly DECREASES :S maybe like 1% every 2 minutes.
Can someone please help me and let me know if it is a battery issue or a phone hardware issue itself?
Im running Gingerbread btw (downgraded from ICS about 3 weeks now because it sucked....and i missed GB lol)
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Easiest way to check is to use another battery in your phone and/or to test your battery in another phone.
So you only need to find someone with a compatible phone/battery.
Or go to a store and ask for help.
Good luck !
Or use a volt meter to test if your battery is dead ie <3.7, the s 2 tends to exaggerate the value more often than shrink the percentage of battery, but your case is a bit extreme, it might have to do from going from ics to gb, don't take my word but apparently its bad to downgrade from ics to gb
hi guys.
my s2's battery thinks she is always charging...and it drains very fast.
to make a workaround on this i have to take off battery and put it again, so it shows "discharging". but it starts right after i put it to charge again, when i took off the charger, it still shows "charging"
any idea? this is fcking me up my battery wont last even 3 hours
obs: already changed Rom, Kernel, but it didnt change anything..
obs2: even when i turn off the phone, it shows that battery icon like when is charging while phone is off. lol
obs3: my problem is EXACTLY THE SAME as this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427539
You could try a new battery, maybe it's not the phones fault
xubeiga said:
hi guys.
my s2's battery thinks she is always charging...and it drains very fast.
to make a workaround on this i have to take off battery and put it again, so it shows "discharging". but it starts right after i put it to charge again, when i took off the charger, it still shows "charging"
any idea? this is fcking me up my battery wont last even 3 hours
obs: already changed Rom, Kernel, but it didnt change anything..
obs2: even when i turn off the phone, it shows that battery icon like when is charging while phone is off. lol
obs3: my problem is EXACTLY THE SAME as this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427539
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this problem is usb slot, try wipe it with avio or wd40 but without battery(remove battery first)
if no work you need to change (30 euro here)
Read this thread. ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2335961
fairly common issue.....
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
This is not happening for the first time...
Ever since I rooted my device and flashed Android Revolutionary Rom on it, I noticed some weird behavior with my device/battery.
Last night I drained my battery to 6% and I turned it off. This morning I charged my phone with the phone stayed off and when the battery indicator screen lighted up it was showing that 50% juice remains. Since this is not happening for the first time, this time I would like to test on it to see whether there's really this much juice remains. So I turned my phone on and as expected, the battery indicator shows 50++% left. So I play around with it and I noticed the screen flashing terribly after some time. Not long after that the phone hang there and I had to do a hard reset by pulling out the battery. Before that, I can see that the battery is drained to around 20%. I was unable to power it on after pulling out the battery and when I connected my device to the charger, nothing happens (no display, no LED). So I left it there charging and after some time, finally the LED is lighting up (So, I assume that I drained the battery COMPLETELY just now). I can switch on the device afterwards and it shows 6% battery remains. I wonder why is this happening as this only happens when I charge my device with it turning off. Something wrong with the battery? Device? Or I have to do battery calibration?
nikctsh said:
This is not happening for the first time...
Ever since I rooted my device and flashed Android Revolutionary Rom on it, I noticed some weird behavior with my device/battery.
Last night I drained my battery to 6% and I turned it off. This morning I charged my phone with the phone stayed off and when the battery indicator screen lighted up it was showing that 50% juice remains. Since this is not happening for the first time, this time I would like to test on it to see whether there's really this much juice remains. So I turned my phone on and as expected, the battery indicator shows 50++% left. So I play around with it and I noticed the screen flashing terribly after some time. Not long after that the phone hang there and I had to do a hard reset by pulling out the battery. Before that, I can see that the battery is drained to around 20%. I was unable to power it on after pulling out the battery and when I connected my device to the charger, nothing happens (no display, no LED). So I left it there charging and after some time, finally the LED is lighting up (So, I assume that I drained the battery COMPLETELY just now). I can switch on the device afterwards and it shows 6% battery remains. I wonder why is this happening as this only happens when I charge my device with it turning off. Something wrong with the battery? Device? Or I have to do battery calibration?
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Let it charge to 100% first before using. Then check how is the battery usage.
There might be an issue with the battery also. If it is swollen then it's time to get a new one.
Try using another battery and see. If it works fine on other battery then your battery needs to change,
The problem could also be in the ROM. Something could have gone wrong during installation even though it may look fine. If this is the case then reflash the ROM with a full wipe. If the problem still remains, return to stock rom and see.
I had the exact same problems, the screen flashes and stutters, network signal is lost and the phone turns off, it is due to uncalibrated battery.
There's a simple fix, download battery calibration from play stor (green android icon with percentage), charge your phone to 100% without using it, then click battery calibr. inside that app, then doscharge it till 0% (do your normal usage as ussual) and then charge it back to 100%
For healthy battery life don't let it drain lower than 10% it's the li-ion physics and always charge it fully, don't charge from 0 to 30-50-60% because the ions in the battery will not have a good flow.
Everything has it's lifespan but if it's configured and used properly it can have a long lifespan
Also to mention, if my recommendation doesn't work, your battery could be swolen due to inproper charging / heavy oc-ing or your charger is messed up.
Also to say, that flickering occured to me when i flashed a new rom and when i do lot of reboots, then the batterystats freak out, the voltages also and also your phone.
Charhe and use it properly, try to stay with a rom at least a couple of days to see how it'll go.
Sent from my pebble blue scoobie doo using Tapatalk.
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Let it charge to 100% first before using. Then check how is the battery usage.
There might be an issue with the battery also. If it is swollen then it's time to get a new one.
Try using another battery and see. If it works fine on other battery then your battery needs to change,
The problem could also be in the ROM. Something could have gone wrong during installation even though it may look fine. If this is the case then reflash the ROM with a full wipe. If the problem still remains, return to stock rom and see.
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The battery usage is normal, and its not swollen. I guess I will try to calibrate the battery or reflash the ROM again.
lsalamun said:
I had the exact same problems, the screen flashes and stutters, network signal is lost and the phone turns off, it is due to uncalibrated battery.
There's a simple fix, download battery calibration from play stor (green android icon with percentage), charge your phone to 100% without using it, then click battery calibr. inside that app, then doscharge it till 0% (do your normal usage as ussual) and then charge it back to 100%
For healthy battery life don't let it drain lower than 10% it's the li-ion physics and always charge it fully, don't charge from 0 to 30-50-60% because the ions in the battery will not have a good flow.
Everything has it's lifespan but if it's configured and used properly it can have a long lifespan
Also to mention, if my recommendation doesn't work, your battery could be swolen due to inproper charging / heavy oc-ing or your charger is messed up.
Also to say, that flickering occured to me when i flashed a new rom and when i do lot of reboots, then the batterystats freak out, the voltages also and also your phone.
Charhe and use it properly, try to stay with a rom at least a couple of days to see how it'll go.
Sent from my pebble blue scoobie doo using Tapatalk.
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Yea, I will try to calibrate my battery to see if it helps